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Well in the sense that they both had rocky personal starts in the NFL, got it together, both were having great seasons prior to their death. Very, very tragic. What a bitter-sweet day.

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RIP Chris Henry, so much talent...a young man whose life was cut short in his prime. Thoughts and prayers to the Henry family

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Unbelievable. RIP, Chris.

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[quote=pg86;641146]Even if she felt threatened I know it sounds shitty she should not have done that...The doors were locked. I wanna say its a freak accident but in light of the recent events you know exactly what it looks like.[/quote]

Indeed, which is why the investigation needs to sort things out. I think as fans of the game and given the tragedy of a young person passing, it is easy for people to point the finger at Henry's fiancee, just as it is easy for some people to bring up Henry's troubled past into the equation to this tragedy.

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[quote=Ruhskins;641209]Indeed, which is why the investigation needs to sort things out. I think as fans of the game and given the tragedy of a young person passing, it is easy for people to point the finger at Henry's fiancee, just as it is easy for some people to bring up Henry's troubled past into the equation to this tragedy.[/quote]

How about why in the world would you jump into the back of the truck? Either scenario is not smart:
a- jump in because you want to calm her down and apologize and not leave without you.
b- jump in cause you want to strangle her (or cause other harm) when the vehicle stops.

Either scenario, it not a smart choice. To compare that to ST is a little off. ST was defending his home, Henry (RIP) was performing a moronic, and likely illegal move.
Quite a shame...the man had talent, but couldn't overcome himself. You hate to see stories like this because of what he left behind. Hope those kids are well taken care of.

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Sad to hear; wonder what is running through your head when you jump into the back of a truck though.

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it could have went either way. He could have been pleading with her to stop the vehicle,

OR

he could have been waiting for the car to stop so he could strangle/beat her to death....no way to tell.

Either way he is dead by her hand...whether it was intentional or not i guess will never be known

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[quote=SolidSnake84;641266]it could have went either way. He could have been pleading with her to stop the vehicle,

OR

he could have been waiting for the car to stop so he could strangle/beat her to death....no way to tell.

Either way he is dead by her hand...whether it was intentional or not i guess will never be known[/quote]

You're right, it likely will never be known, and if the woman was smart, she would say he jumped into the back of the truck saying he was going to kill her, that way it looks like self defense. We will never know if it's true or not.
I'm not sure I would say it's death by her hand though. When you do something amazingly wreckless like jump into the back of a moving truck, you accept the responsibility of what could happen. There is a reason there are no seat belts in the bed of a truck, and there is a law about transporting people in the beds of trucks.
Ask yourself, what would you do if someone twice your size jumped into the back of your truck saying horrible things like "I'll kill you" etc (not saying that happened, just pointing out, if it did, this scenario becomes understandable.) It's possible that Henry was so enraged that he even tried to open her door while driving down the road and he fell off.
Point is, we have no clue what really happened. It seems more "logical" that Henry was being agressive and this tragic incident happened. But it could have easily been something far less crude. If you are trying to get away from someone, why would you chase them to the point of jumping in the back of their truck? Ultimately, the responsibility is on Henry, not the woman.

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He killed himself...what a dipshit.

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1. Him jumping into a truck with a broken arm is just dumb.
2. Henry should not have chased after her after a arguement causing the women to freak out.
3. The girlfriend is actually the victim [B]NOT Henry[/B]. Jumping into [B]her[/B] car and not knowing why or what he was going to do gives her the right to say self defense.

Sean Taylor was not trying to put himself in harm's way, his family was in danger and he got shot. Henry died because of stupidity and his judgment caused his untimely death.

I do pray for his family and 3 kids

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[quote=vallin21;641325]1. Him jumping into a truck with a broken arm is just dumb.
2. Henry should not have chased after her after a arguement causing the women to freak out.
3. The girlfriend is actually the victim [B]NOT Henry[/B]. Jumping into [B]her[/B] car and not knowing why or what he was going to do gives her the right to say self defense.

Sean Taylor was not trying to put himself in harm's way, his family was in danger and he got shot. Henry died because of stupidity and his judgment caused his untimely death.

I do pray for his family and 3 kids[/quote]

Exactly.

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It was his truck and we don't know the full circumstances of what happened

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Snyder opened up the press conference with a remembrance of Henry.

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[quote=tryfuhl;641404]Snyder opened up the press conference with a remembrance of Henry.[/quote]

Classy.

I'm sure this really hits home with him considering what we went through with ST not long ago.

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[quote=tryfuhl;641404]Snyder opened up the press conference with a remembrance of Henry.[/quote]

That's great of him to do.

Since we know this feeling all too well, I appreciate Danny giving the respect.

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[quote=vallin21;641325]1. Him jumping into a truck with a broken arm is just dumb.
2. Henry should not have chased after her after a arguement causing the women to freak out.
3. The girlfriend is actually the victim [B]NOT Henry[/B]. Jumping into [B]her[/B] car and not knowing why or what he was going to do gives her the right to say self defense.

Sean Taylor was not trying to put himself in harm's way, his family was in danger and he got shot. Henry died because of stupidity and his judgment caused his untimely death.

I do pray for his family and 3 kids[/quote]

Anyone that is assuming things or blaming people is a hypocrite.

After ST died, a lot of people said it was his fault and that he brought the death on himself. It's BS that some people are quickly assuming blame instead of having respect in a man's death.

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[quote=Mattyk72;641407]Classy.

I'm sure this really hits home with him considering what we went through with ST not long ago.[/quote]
Indeed; he actually did say something to the effect of it hitting home to the team due to what happened 2 years ago.

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Another life was lost too early, lets respect that and not point fingers about fault.
RIP Chris Henry

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This feels a lot like Sean's death. He was seemingly turning his life around. He was away from the team due to injury. The one difference that Vallin21 points out is that Henry made a horrible decision by jumping into the back of that truck, while Sean died defending his family. Regardless of the circumstances, both deaths were senseless, and my prayers are with the families. RIP CH.

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[quote=vallin21;641325]1. Him jumping into a truck with a broken arm is just dumb.
2. Henry should not have chased after her after a arguement causing the women to freak out.
3. The girlfriend is actually the victim [B]NOT Henry[/B]. Jumping into [B]her[/B] car and not knowing why or what he was going to do gives her the right to say self defense.

Sean Taylor was not trying to put himself in harm's way, his family was in danger and he got shot. Henry died because of stupidity and his judgment caused his untimely death.

I do pray for his family and 3 kids[/quote]

were you there? if not you have no basis for anything you just said, you are just speculating

the only know fact is that a father and son who was only 26 has died
rip chris

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[quote=mlmdub130;641540]were you there? if not you have no basis for anything you just said, you are just speculating

the only know fact is that a father and son who was only 26 has died
rip chris[/quote]

No I wasn't but I actually looked up the story. He jumped into his girlfriend's truck and fell after a domestic dispute. I sure as hell wouldn't chase my wife down after I had a spat with her and I damn sure wouldn't jump onto a freakin truck with a broken arm. In case you didn't notice, the facts are there on every site
sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4750615

C'mon man, Look up the freakin story first before you accuse me of shit, then we'll talk.

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RIP Chris Henry

His tombstone should read:
If he didn't find trouble, trouble found him

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[quote=vallin21;641564]No I wasn't but I actually [B]looked up the story[/B]. He jumped into his girlfriend's truck and fell after a domestic dispute. I sure as hell wouldn't chase my wife down after I had a spat with her and I damn sure wouldn't jump onto a freakin truck with a broken arm. In [B]case you didn't notice, the facts are there on every site [/B]
sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4750615

C'mon man, Look up the freakin story first before you accuse me of shit, then we'll talk.[/quote]

i have heard all the stories and that what they are, i'll wait to pass any judgement until the police report comes out

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If it hadn't been for the Sean Taylor situation I probably would have reacted a lot differently to the news. However after seeing people jump to conclusions after the Sean Taylor murder I think it's safe to say that I now know better. Wish I could have learned it a different way though.

Anyway RIP Chris Henry.

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Amazing how different the reactions are when S.T. dies and when Chris Henry dies. Both were similar in that they were turning their lives around and both had a bad perception of what they were all about. And both were injured at the time hence why they weren't around the team at the T.O.D.

For me I just want to say R.I.P. Chris Henry. I do believe that he was turning his life around and making the most of his second chance with the Bengals. He was taken too soon. His family and fiancee will miss a was soon to be husband and a father and his teammates will miss a friend and a great player too.

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[quote=Mattyk72;641407]Classy.

I'm sure this really hits home with him considering what we went through with ST not long ago.[/quote]

I agree with you Matty, but the difference is that Sean was respected around the league and he was the star of this organiztion, though Henry is still a person and didn't deserve to die, his lost will be missed, but i'm thinking mostly in the orgainztion, I don't know if he will get the love around the league like Sean Taylor did..... IMO.

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[quote=vallin21;641564]No I wasn't but I actually looked up the story. He jumped into his girlfriend's truck and fell after a domestic dispute. I sure as hell wouldn't chase my wife down after I had a spat with her and I damn sure wouldn't jump onto a freakin truck with a broken arm. In case you didn't notice, the facts are there on every site
sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4750615

C'mon man, Look up the freakin story first before you accuse me of shit, then we'll talk.[/quote]

Just because you've read what the media has out, does not mean you have the full story. I think its much safer to err on the side of caution and not judge based off of a few "facts". I think at this point in time, it is far better to sympathize with the family he has left behind, and leave it at that, rather than passing judgement

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[quote=Dirtbag359;641577]If it hadn't been for the Sean Taylor situation I probably would have reacted a lot differently to the news. However after seeing people jump to conclusions after the Sean Taylor murder I think it's safe to say that I now know better. Wish I could have learned it a different way though.

Anyway RIP Chris Henry.[/quote]

thats exactly the way i feel, well said

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For the record I'm not trying to jump to conclusions. I definitely will pray for his family and his 3 kids because they will never see their father.

RIP Chris Henry

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RIP Chris Henry .

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Just because you feel threatened doesn't give you a right to leave someone who just fell out the back of a pickup laying there which is what the news reports make it sound like. I don't know how NC law sees it but here in Cali Chris was in the wrong for being in a pickup bed while the truck was in motion...but still It sounds like he actually laid there for an extended period of time........:(

I'm not worried about who's at fault here or whatever the drama was surrounding it the fact is Chris is gone and his kids will never have that back.....that 3 year old won't forget this Christmas either this isn't supposed to happen you know what I mean?!?

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It sad that it seems that both Henry & ST changed their lives before there death's.

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R.I.P. guy had really turned his life around

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[quote=vallin21;641564]No I wasn't but I actually looked up the story. He jumped into his girlfriend's truck and fell after a domestic dispute. I sure as hell wouldn't chase my wife down after I had a spat with her and I damn sure wouldn't jump onto a freakin truck with a broken arm. In case you didn't notice, the facts are there on every site
sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4750615

C'mon man, Look up the freakin story first before you accuse me of shit, then we'll talk.[/quote]


Does it really matter whose fault it was? She may or may not have done it intentionally but she killed him. So now she gets to explain to her kids why she killed their dad. Depending on the investigation, the kids may have lost both their parents. Just a great situation all around...

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I am very sad to hear this happened to Henry.

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[quote=Jamaican'Skin;641586]Just because you've read what the media has out, does not mean you have the full story. I think its much safer to err on the side of caution and not judge based off of a few "facts". I think at this point in time, it is far better to sympathize with the family he has left behind, and leave it at that, rather than passing judgement[/quote]

Exactly how I feel.

I overheard someone at work today sarcastically say "couldn't have happened to a better guy." I wasn't in the mood to argue so I let it go, but come on man. No one knows exactly what happened yet. But the Bengals are now without a friend and teammate, his parents are without a son, and his 3 young children will never really get to know their father.

It's very sad, and IMO if people want to call him a dipshit, idiot, and all the other stuff that's been said about him here, they should keep it to themselves for now.

Anyone else around here (especially those passing judgment) get into an argument with a spouse or significant other and say or do something stupid in the heat of the moment? I know I have.

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I don't know what to say. I feel for everyone connected with the Bengals because we went through this with Sean.

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I just saw Ochocinco's comments for the first time. It sounded a lot like what people had to say about Sean:

"My grandma always said you never question the man upstairs on the decisions he makes, because he never makes mistakes. But I don't see how Chris was supposed to go already. Especially when you're on the right path."

Ocho was really upset. I couldn't help but to get choked up a bit. All those feelings I had about Sean came back for a minute. I really feel for the Bengals players and fans, and of course Chris' family.

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More news this morning says that she did drive off and leave him after she saw that he had fallen off.

There is also a 911 tape of her calling 911 when he jumped in the truck, but the audio has not been released.

listening to reports from the crime scene investigators, they are roughly 90% sure of what happened. The tire marks in the road indicate clearly that she was deliberatley swerving to try and throw him off, which she succeeded in doing. They also said speed is a factor and he may have had less serious injuries had he fallen off at a slower speed. Apparantley she was going pretty fast..

Looks like just a matter of time before she is charged with manslaughter. It's not 1st degree murder, but at the very least it could be negligent homicide, etc....

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[quote=SolidSnake84;641742] They also said speed is a factor and he may have had less serious injuries had he fallen off at a slower speed.[/quote]

Sharp as a tack these cops. :doh: