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[quote=diehardskin2982;650838]Now the search for a defensive coordinator begins[/quote]

Shanahan should look no further than Jerry Gray or Kirk Olivadotti. Zimmer is still with the Bengals as they are in the playoffs and can't agree to a contract till their season is over. I hope Shanahan decides to give Gray a shot at DC, that's the least the Redskins could do for putting him in 2 fake interviews to meet the Rooney rule.

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[quote=diehardskin2982;650838]Now the search for a defensive coordinator begins[/quote]

If they are intent on Zimmer we have to wait. Might as well enjoy Bengals football this weekend and observe Zimmer's skills. He failed misserably on prime time though. Hopefully it was a fluke and he can contain the Jets the second time around. If not then I'll be a little skeptical about a DC that can't adjust from game to game. Oh wait we had that last year.

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[quote=tdSKINS1;650832]I still don't understand the love for Weiss and Clausen. I'm so glad this nightmare didn't happen (hope to god we don't draft this guy). Clausen is way overrated and Weiss is a joke thats why they ran his ass out of South Bend.[/quote]

Seriously, speaking of arrogance (see CP vs. JC thread), Charlie Weiss' ego is bigger than his waistline which is saying something. And my only problem with Clausen is that, for some reason, I think he reeks of major bust and I just don't see him being successful in this league...

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This is the best news I've heard since Gibbs was last hired. Shannahan Bitches!!!!

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[quote=rbanerjee23;650843]Seriously, speaking of arrogance (see CP vs. JC thread), Charlie Weiss' ego is bigger than his waistline which is saying something. And my only problem with Clausen is that, for some reason, I think he reeks of major bust and I just don't see him being successful in this league...[/quote]

Weiss is probably going to end in Chicago as their OC.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;650841]Shanahan should look no further than Jerry Gray or Kirk Olivadotti. Zimmer is still with the Bengals as they are in the playoffs and can't agree to a contract till their season is over. I hope Shanahan decides to give Gray a shot at DC, that's the least the Redskins could do for putting him in 2 fake interviews to meet the Rooney rule.[/quote]

The way Gray was talking after the game, it made me think he knew something. After that interview I thought he had a chance but it sounds like Zimmer's gonna be the man. I think it was SS that said he'll look around first.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;650841]Shanahan should look no further than Jerry Gray or Kirk Olivadotti. Zimmer is still with the Bengals as they are in the playoffs and can't agree to a contract till their season is over. I hope Shanahan decides to give Gray a shot at DC, that's the least the Redskins could do for putting him in 2 fake interviews to meet the Rooney rule.[/quote]

We won't need him until after the SB, no need to pick one now.

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I dont know how to feel about this.It kinda seems like we still have a puppet GM if Shanahan has final say on everything.I dont have the info to back it up,I have a good friend in Denver that says Shanahans personel moves were terrible,great coach,terrible talent evaluator.Didnt Shanny spend a high draft pick on that loser RB,cant remember his name.I want Shanny as the coach,not the final say soer

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[quote=htownskinfan;650852]I dont know how to feel about this.It kinda seems like we still have a puppet GM if Shanahan has final say on everything.I dont have the info to back it up,I have a good friend in Denver that says Shanahans personel moves were terrible,great coach,terrible talent evaluator.Didnt Shanny spend a high draft pick on that loser RB,cant remember his name.I want Shanny as the coach,not the final say soer[/quote]

Maurice Clarett 3rd round pick.

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I agree...Allen should be here for a reason.

Enough of this Democratic tiebreaker BS. Someone needs to be the definitive personnel selection person and it shouldn't be Shanny. Have Allen hire a VP of Player Personnel or Ops to assist him.

It's the Redskins that deal with the team that Shanny leaves when he's gone. We need to have a stable and uniform direction if he is to leave our team or not sign again after 5 years. Have Allen and hired assistant take care of our personnel. Shanny needs to write an anti-owner influence clause and call it a day.

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[quote=htownskinfan;650852]I dont know how to feel about this.It kinda seems like we still have a puppet GM if Shanahan has final say on everything.I dont have the info to back it up,I have a good friend in Denver that says Shanahans personel moves were terrible,great coach,terrible talent evaluator.Didnt Shanny spend a high draft pick on that loser RB,cant remember his name.I want Shanny as the coach,not the final say soer[/quote]

This is all you need to know....

Kyle Shanahan 2008 season:
[quote]Shanahan’s first year as coordinator was an overwhelming success, as the offense ranked third in the NFL, gaining a franchise-record 6,113 yards and passing for a franchise-record 4,267 yards. The offense was equally adept on the ground, running for 1,846 yards at a team-record 4.3-yard clip. Shanahan helped a pair of players earn Pro Bowl nods, with wide receiver Andre Johnson making his third career trip and tight end Owen Daniels making his first. [/quote]

2009 season:
[quote]2009 was a record breaking season for quarterback [URL="http://www.thewarpath.net/wiki/Matt_Schaub"][COLOR=#0000ff]Matt Schaub[/COLOR][/URL], finishing with 4,770 passing yards, the 6th most in a single season in NFL history, and a career high season passer rating of 98.6. On the other side of the ball, wide receiver [URL="http://www.thewarpath.net/wiki/Andre_Johnson"][COLOR=#0000ff]Andre Johnson[/COLOR][/URL] had another extraordinary season with 1,569 receiving yards over 101 receptions.[/quote]

Mike Shanahan:

[quote]
Shanahan is known for a run-heavy variation of the West Coast offense he coached in San Francisco. He has often found unheralded [URL="http://www.thewarpath.net/wiki/Running_back"][COLOR=#0000ff]running backs[/COLOR][/URL] from later rounds of the annual [URL="http://www.thewarpath.net/wiki/NFL_Draft"][COLOR=#0000ff]NFL Draft[/COLOR][/URL] and then turned them into league-leading rushers behind small-but-powerful offensive lines. Examples of this phenomenon are [URL="http://www.thewarpath.net/wiki/Terrell_Davis"][COLOR=#0000ff]Terrell Davis[/COLOR][/URL], [URL="http://www.thewarpath.net/wiki/Mike_Anderson"][COLOR=#0000ff]Mike Anderson[/COLOR][/URL], [URL="http://www.thewarpath.net/wiki/Olandis_Gary"][COLOR=#0000ff]Olandis Gary[/COLOR][/URL], [URL="http://www.thewarpath.net/wiki/Clinton_Portis"][COLOR=#0000ff]Clinton Portis[/COLOR][/URL], [URL="http://www.thewarpath.net/wiki/Reuben_Droughns"][COLOR=#0000ff]Reuben Droughns[/COLOR][/URL] and [URL="http://www.thewarpath.net/wiki/Tatum_Bell"][COLOR=#0000ff]Tatum Bell[/COLOR][/URL], all of whom have had at least one 1,000-yard season in a Denver uniform over the past 10 years.
[/quote]

I'm excited to see what they put together and how well the system runs next year.

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[quote=SBXVII;650862]This is all you need to know....

Kyle Shanahan 2008 season:


2009 season:


Mike Shanahan:



I'm excited to see what they put together and how well the system runs next year.[/quote]

that doesnt tell me anything,I dont know what Kyle has to do with what I said about his father.
What would help is a list of the players drafted and free agents and trades made while Shanny was in charge in Denver.
Also while Shanny might have drafted those rbs,Ive always heard most of the credit for their success given to their blocking schemes and the off line coach they used to have

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[quote=htownskinfan;650852]I dont know how to feel about this.It kinda seems like we still have a puppet GM if Shanahan has final say on everything.I dont have the info to back it up,I have a good friend in Denver that says Shanahans personel moves were terrible,great coach,terrible talent evaluator.Didnt Shanny spend a high draft pick on that loser RB,cant remember his name.I want Shanny as the coach,not the final say soer[/quote]

Shanny also famously acquired the entire Browns defensive line. Transplanted it from Cleveland to Denver. And, with guys like Michael Myers, it wasn't that great of a defensive line.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;650794]Meet "The Rat", check those teeth. Where's the cheese?

[url]http://imgsrv.mix941.fm/image/kmxb2/UserFiles/Image/markmercedes/mm_tanahan.jpg[/url][/quote]

That's it! I've wanted to place his teeth. Of course they're rat teeth. Brilliant!

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[quote=SBXVII;650862]This is all you need to know....

Kyle Shanahan 2008 season:


2009 season:


Mike Shanahan:



I'm excited to see what they put together and how well the system runs next year.[/quote]

Isn't this just the 'see what people have done in the past and expect the same result in the future'?

Kind of like bringing back Gibbs, Joe Bugel, The Smurfs #2, Wanting Russ Grimm as coach.

I'm glad these guys had successes where they were but that doesn't translate piece by piece to our team. They have completely different variables here then they had at their respective places.

...The same result or pattern will not translate piece by piece to our situation in Washington. Eventually one has to work with the independent variables or available resources in front of them.

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Meh, anything is better than Zorn but I'm not totally sold on Shanahan. You just have to wonder if he is capable of winning especially after 3 consecutive mediocre seasons. God help us all.

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Im lovin the breath of fresh air swept into the franchise.

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[quote=GTripp0012;650646]I too am excited to become the 2004-2008 Denver Broncos. May we have at least as much success as they did.[/quote]


........is John Elway coming to?

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I guess some ppl ( skinnytee) would think hiring Jesus himself would be a bad hire lol Seriously man this is shanny's team, Allen will also have his say in every matter.. What would make you happy? I guess some people will never be satisfied..

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[quote=rbanerjee23;650843]Seriously, speaking of arrogance (see CP vs. JC thread), Charlie Weiss' ego is bigger than his waistline which is saying something. And my only problem with Clausen is that, for some reason, I think he reeks of major bust and I just don't see him being successful in this league...[/quote]

I watch college football like it's my job and I'm telling you this kid he's not that good. He oozes of bust.

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[quote=Giantone;650909]........is John Elway coming to?[/quote]

Did Elway ever win a superbowl without Shanny? People keep throwing around the info that Shanny couldn't win without Elway. Well, Elway couldn't get the job done as well withouth Shannahan. Im guessing there was quite a few players that made the Shannahan/Elway era successful. We always give a coach or player to much credit.

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[quote=Lotus;650868]Shanny also famously acquired the entire Browns defensive line. Transplanted it from Cleveland to Denver. And, with guys like Michael Myers, it wasn't that great of a defensive line.[/quote]

yes,I do remember that

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[quote=htownskinfan;650852]I dont know how to feel about this.It kinda seems like we still have a puppet GM if Shanahan has final say on everything.I dont have the info to back it up,I have a good friend in Denver that says Shanahans personel moves were terrible,great coach,terrible talent evaluator.Didnt Shanny spend a high draft pick on that loser RB,cant remember his name.I want Shanny as the coach,not the final say soer[/quote]

I'm not totally thrilled on Shanahan having final say on personnel either-though I'm sure there will be a strong staff supporting and informing him-Shanahan is notorious for being a risk-taker in personnel decisions. So we'll have some head scratchers for sure.

But I'm excited about Shanahan the coach and Kyle Shanahan the OC

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[quote=Skinny Tee;650813]Why the hell is Snyder always having these guys spend the night at his house. I'm sick of hearing these stories about these coaches going to his house after a night of dinner. Sounds like a honeymoon night after these guys 'consummate' their relationship by signing the dotted line of their contract.

Just grosses me out. Shanny is up $7M, I think he can afford the penthouse suite at the Four Seasons in downtown DC.


I'm not comforted by the fact Shanny is literally getting into Snyder's bed tonight after being wined & dined & $6.9'ed.[/quote]

You really do get riled up about the most inane things don't you? It's not like Snyder lives in a 2 bedroom apartment you know

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[quote=firstdown;650670]I heard on the radio its a 5 year deal worth 35 million. Is that the going rate today for an NFL coach?[/quote]

It's much less than what Shanahan was originally asking for. That's all I know

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Do you know if this means Shanny will have final say on the draft SmootSmack? I would expect him to have a strong imput but I'm hoping BA has final say in that area.

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[quote=Skins4L;650904]Im lovin the breath of fresh air swept into the franchise.[/quote]

This whole decade is starting out in a better way than Snyders first decade. I hope it is the rejuvination of this franchise that every fan has looked for since JG was re-hired.

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[quote=The Goat;650638]I think Snyder's statement that nobody is satisfied w/ the team's record over the last two years shows he has learned very little. Refresh my memory, was his team any good before he hired Zorn? The last decade of failure is Snyder's failure...he's got a few dopes fooled but the vast majority aren't ready to take him serious.

I hope Mike brings a passion to win and he and Allen make the football decisions while Snyder stays out of it. I think we'll only know if this is the MO in a couple years, based on the W-L record.[/quote]

They'd been to the playoffs twice in four years before Zorn. Plus owners are usually going to just refer the prevous regime. I mean I could be wrong but I don't think when the Lions hired Jim Schwartz they were like "for just about the entire franchise's history we have failed to live up to our expectations..."

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;650661]Executive vice president of football operations. What a joke. Florios comments mirror my own. Different people. Same old redskins.[/quote]

For real...it should have been Bill Cowher EVP of Football Operations. Right!

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[quote=53Fan;650976]Do you know if this means Shanny will have final say on the draft SmootSmack? I would expect him to have a strong imput but I'm hoping BA has final say in that area.[/quote]

Tough to say for sure right now until the whole front office shakes out. Ultimately Shanny will have final say but Allen and the other guys will have major, major input and Shanny's decisions will be essentially based on what options Allen provides.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;650910]I guess some ppl ( skinnytee) would think hiring Jesus himself would be a bad hire lol Seriously man this is shanny's team, Allen will also have his say in every matter.. What would make you happy? I guess some people will never be satisfied..[/quote]

Considering what we're leaving behind in terms of the decision makers at the top (Snyder/Vinny) the majority of us seem to be welcoming Allen/Shanahan with open arms.

There will always be those that are never happy or eternally pessimistic. Not much you can do about that.

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Redskins fans should all be happy today. We've got 2 professional leaders at the top of our organization. They've both had success and are running our team now. It's a great day.

It's not going to be fixed overnight though. Have a little patience. It might be a few years. We have a direction now though.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;650661]Executive vice president of football operations. What a joke. Florios comments mirror my own. Different people. Same old redskins.[/quote]

How would Cowher have made it any different?

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This is best coach we've had here since Joe Gibbs first tenure with the team. I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm happy.

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This is a classic rebound choice. After a coach with little experience and control DS hires a coach with a ton of experience who exerts much more control. Kind of like when he hired Gibbs after the OBC.

DS didnt fail to make the obvious choice with lots of name recognition and I hope it works out. My only concern is Shanny's lack of success without a QB named Elway. Hopefully that problem wont follow him to DC.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;650661]Executive vice president of football operations. What a joke. Florios comments mirror my own. Different people. Same old redskins.[/quote]


Dude are you a Redskins fan? Seriously stop bitching.

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[quote=SmootSmack;650979]For real...it should have been Bill Cowher EVP of Football Operations. Right![/quote]

The Cowher thing isnt the big deal here - the big deal is that Snyder is still running the show and nothing has changed. If Snyder wasn't going to be involved, Shanahan would have had the title of Team President. Hence my comment about different people / same story.

Its clearly evident that Snyder wanted Shanahan all along. Shanahan approved of Allen so Snyder put on a pretense of changing his ways by hiring a "real GM" and letting him make all the football decisions. But we don't have a real GM. Like Vinny before him, Allen is just carrying out Snyder's bidding. If Allen were a "real GM," he would have interviewed multiple head coaching candidates. But Snyder wanted Shanahan so that's the only person who was "interviewed."

Everyone can celebrate all they want now, but time will prove that Snyder hasn't changed one bit. It'll be 2001 all over again.

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[quote=irish;650995]This is a classic rebound choice. After a coach with little experience and control DS hires a coach with a ton of experience who exerts much more control. Kind of like when he hired Gibbs after the OBC.

DS didnt fail to make the obvious choice with lots of name recognition and I hope it works out. [B]My only concern is Shanny's lack of success without a QB named Elway[/B]. Hopefully that problem wont follow him to DC.[/quote]
How did he do with a loser named Jake Plummer?

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[quote=Dirtbag359;650697]Hey I don't have a valid ES account, I registered there in 2006 but never used it. Anyway is it possible to post the pic here?[/quote]

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