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I don't think there's any advantage to cutting the players now... i think its just a sign of respect and appreciation from the teams giving these veteran players plenty of time to find a new home before the market becomes more crowded when free agency starts.

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Terrance Cody

I'd rather us get this guy with our 2nd round pick than us getting an OLineman. Yes I know that sounds very very crazy and stupid but he is probably the best NT to come out since Jamaal Williams, and with Shanahan's draft record he can get good OLineman throughout the draft. Plus with most NT's like Wilfork and Hampton older and likely to stay with their teams either by being franchised or whatever, and the fact that we'll bring in some OLineman in FA as well, lets just get Terrence Cody please. The guy is 6-5 370 and is quick for a fat guy.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;663348]Terrance Cody

I'd rather us get this guy with our 2nd round pick than us getting an OLineman. Yes I know that sounds very very crazy and stupid but he is probably the best NT to come out since Jamaal Williams, and with Shanahan's draft record he can get good OLineman throughout the draft. Plus with most NT's like Wilfork and Hampton older and likely to stay with their teams either by being franchised or whatever, and the fact that we'll bring in some OLineman in FA as well, lets just get Terrence Cody please. The guy is 6-5 370 and is quick for a fat guy.[/quote]

Dude, did you not see the HORRIBLE semblance of an offensive line that played for our team last season? First you want to fanatically draft a QB with the first round and now you want us to use a second rounder on a defensive lineman??? Are you Vinny Cerrato in disguise? Next you're going to say that we need to draft all WRs with the next picks. :doh:

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;662541]I don't think there's any advantage to cutting the players now... i think its just a sign of respect and appreciation from the teams giving these veteran players plenty of time to find a new home before the market becomes more crowded when free agency starts.[/quote]

Here's what I don't understand; how are the teams able to release some players while Dolphins couldn't release Porter until after March 5th? Can someone please clarify this for me..

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[quote=GridIron26;663359]Here's what I don't understand; how are the teams able to release some players while Dolphins couldn't release Porter until after March 5th? Can someone please clarify this for me..[/quote]Releasing Porter now violated the salary cap for the Dolphins. The salary cap ceases to exist on March 5th.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;663348]Terrance Cody

I'd rather us get this guy with our 2nd round pick than us getting an OLineman. Yes I know that sounds very very crazy and stupid but he is probably the best NT to come out since Jamaal Williams, and with Shanahan's draft record he can get good OLineman throughout the draft. Plus with most NT's like Wilfork and Hampton older and likely to stay with their teams either by being franchised or whatever, and the fact that we'll bring in some OLineman in FA as well, lets just get Terrence Cody please. The guy is 6-5 370 and is quick for a fat guy.[/quote]

Unless he shows up strong for the combine and pro days it's likely he'll be there where we pick. You've got to wonder about his dedication though, you'd think he might have showed up in better shape for the Senior Bowl. Hopefully he's got trainers busting his ass before he shows up at 400 later this month.

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[quote=Ruhskins;663356]Dude, did you not see the HORRIBLE semblance of an offensive line that played for our team last season? First you want to fanatically draft a QB with the first round and now you want us to use a second rounder on a defensive lineman??? Are you Vinny Cerrato in disguise? Next you're going to say that we need to draft all WRs with the next picks. :doh:[/quote]

yes, but I also see a great head coach we have named mike shanahan who drafts nobodys(except clady) to play on his OL and succeed. Hell, some of the guys he picked up were undrafted FA's.

Also tell me the last time a great NT came out of the draft??? This guy IS the guy that you want at the NT position. If lots of scouts and analysts guaranteed you, that a prospect is going to be the next Ray Lewis, Ed Reed, Peyton Manning, etc. but you had more pressing needs at other positions, you would stop and draft that guy. Atleast I would, especially if I'm picking 4th overall all in the draft, you really don't have much to lose in terms of getting to the super bowl, your not going to fix this team in one offseason.

Also don't think one bit that we are going to build this entire OL with just the draft. NO,no, no no no! We will bring in atleast 2 or 3 guys through FA and maybe one through a trade. Then we'll draft atleast 2 OLineman.

and no I am not vinny cerratto or else I'd be a very rich heckeling man.(insert stupid uh he he vinny laugh here)

And no, I don't want all WR's next after we got my Franchise QB Bradford, then Cody, I'd be getting Matt Tennant the Center from BC, then after that I'd be getting Jason Fox the OT from Miami, and then I'd be getting either another OLineman, or a 3-4 OLB, or a FS. I'd also bring in Daniel Porter the RB from LaTech once he goes undrafted and I'd bring in Cody Grimm the OLB/S from VT aswell assuming he also goes undrafted.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;663386]yes, but I also see a great head coach we have named mike shanahan who drafts nobodys(except clady) to play on his OL and succeed. Hell, some of the guys he picked up were undrafted FA's.[/quote]

We also had a great line coached named Bugel that was good at that, and in the end that didn't turn out so well. You can only do so much with nobodys, but every now and then you need to draft a talented lineman to anchor your line.

Once again, I don't know how people can see the play of our offensive last season, losing Samuels to retirement, possibly losing Thomas (or having him with an injury waiting to happen), and having a whole bunch of guys that have no business starting in an offensive line and say, "Yup, we can rebuild this with a whole bunch of nobodys. Screw picking a first OR second round lineman."

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[quote=Ruhskins;663387]We also had a great line coached named Bugel that was good at that, and in the end that didn't turn out so well. You can only do so much with nobodys, but every now and then you need to draft a talented lineman to anchor your line.

Once again, I don't know how people can see the play of our offensive last season, losing Samuels to retirement, possibly losing Thomas (or having him with an injury waiting to happen), and having a whole bunch of guys that have no business starting in an offensive line and say, "Yup, we can rebuild this with a whole bunch of nobodys. Screw picking a first OR second round lineman."[/quote]

Crazy ain't it? That's pretty much what we've been doing the last few years. :doh:

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Not being well-known does not equate to sucking. Fellows like Reed Doughty or Lorenzo Alexander give off similar impressions to non-Redskins fans but he still can play. Then there's those Panthers backups who were able to handle the Giants' O-line while we got torched like as if they haven't tapered off since 2008.

RT and RG were manned by a bunch of scrubs and D'Anthony Batiste shouldn't have even been in the league.

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[quote=Ruhskins;663387]We also had a great line coached named Bugel that was good at that, and in the end that didn't turn out so well. You can only do so much with nobodys, but every now and then you need to draft a talented lineman to anchor your line.

Once again, I don't know how people can see the play of our offensive last season, losing Samuels to retirement, possibly losing Thomas (or having him with an injury waiting to happen), and having a whole bunch of guys that have no business starting in an offensive line and say, "Yup, we can rebuild this with a whole bunch of nobodys. Screw picking a first OR second round lineman."[/quote]


the skins need off. linemen but they don't HAVE to be 1st or 2nd round picks. i'm not opposed to drafting one with the 1st or 2nd PICK but it's not a MUST,imo, depending on what happens in free agency.

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[quote=wolfeskins;663408]the skins need off. linemen but they don't HAVE to be 1st or 2nd round picks. i'm not opposed to drafting one with the 1st or 2nd PICK but it's not a MUST,imo, depending on what happens in free agency.[/quote]

Do you realize that without the CBA in place, this offseason prior to the uncapped year most free agents under 30 yrs. old are going to be RFAs? (example: McNeill from San Diego).

So basically, these are your options when it comes to building the offensive line:

- Draft a 1st or 2nd round lineman
- Draft a 4th, 5th, or 7th round lineman
- Trade picks for an RFA
- Sign an older UFA

While we will likely sign an UFA or two and definitely draft a lineman in the later rounds, I just don't see how you don't draft a lineman in the 1st or 2nd round.

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they have more options then the 4 you've listed.

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[quote=wolfeskins;663412]they have more options then the 4 you've listed.[/quote]

You mean hoping that one of our current players develops into a starter? That may happen with a Rhinehart at guard...and maybe Edwin Williams at center. But what about the tackle situation? You basically have Samuels and Heyer right now. One being a huge question mark because of health and the other is a question mark because of skill.

Once again, I'm amazed at how people are easily dismissing the rebuilding of the offensive line. Not that picking up a first or second rounder is the ONLY way to do it, but you make it sound like we have the Jets offensive line and don't need to spend much resources on it.

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I'm all for drafting a OT in the 2nd round

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[quote=Ruhskins;663416]You mean hoping that one of our current players develops into a starter? That may happen with a Rhinehart at guard...and maybe Edwin Williams at center. But what about the tackle situation? You basically have Samuels and Heyer right now. One being a huge question mark because of health and the other is a question mark because of skill.

Once again, I'm amazed at how people are easily [B]dismissing[/B] the rebuilding of the offensive line. Not that picking up a first or second rounder is the ONLY way to do it, but you make it sound like we have the Jets offensive line and [B]don't need to spend much resources on it[/B].[/quote]


i'm not dismissing the fact that the o-line needs major improvement,nor am i suggesting the skins need not use many resources in fixind it. all i'm saying is there are other ways to do it outside of using one of our 1st two picks. once again though,for the record, i am NOT OPPOSED to drafting an o-lineman with a 1st or 2nd round draft pick.

Re: Prospects for Shanahans offense/Hasletts 3-4 D
 

Jerry Hughes the OLB/DE from TCU would be a great complement to Orakpo in the 3-4 as the other OLB

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actually I don't know about Terrence Cody anymore, just as long as he doesn't show up to the combine looking like this...

[url]http://i2.cdn.turner.com/si/2010/football/nfl/02/23/combine.45/terrence-cody-p1.jpg[/url]

[IMG]http://i2.cdn.turner.com/si/2010/football/nfl/02/23/combine.45/terrence-cody-p1.jpg[/IMG]

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[quote=CultBrennan59;665279]actually I don't know about Terrence Cody anymore, just as long as he doesn't show up to the combine looking like this...

[url]http://i2.cdn.turner.com/si/2010/football/nfl/02/23/combine.45/terrence-cody-p1.jpg[/url]

[IMG]http://i2.cdn.turner.com/si/2010/football/nfl/02/23/combine.45/terrence-cody-p1.jpg[/IMG][/quote]

They really need to start providing shirts to people from Alabama. Two years in a row now.

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Ive been looking @ real late round RB's and examining tape and i think we should grab Stafon Johnson with the 6th or 7th round pick. And if hes undrafted DEFINATELY bring him in to camp. An ideal backfield would be Portis (with the good kind of chip on his shoulder) and Stafon Johnson being the bigger backs sharing the workload and sprinkling in a good amount of Anthony Alridge as a change of pace.

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regarding o-line prospects.. I know and hope we get plenty of o-line help via the draft but I think we need to get atleast 1-2 starters out of the draft class. In the meanwhile Center Casey Wiegmann of the broncos just got cut (official on Wednesday)...He is in no way the answer but is well versed in zone blocking...Shanny knows him and we can get rid of The hold happy Rabach . What do you think of this!!!!
It would be one less draft pick that needs to go O-line as we have other needs...none greater than o-line!!!

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[quote=CultBrennan59;665279]actually I don't know about Terrence Cody anymore, just as long as he doesn't show up to the combine looking like this...

[url]http://i2.cdn.turner.com/si/2010/football/nfl/02/23/combine.45/terrence-cody-p1.jpg[/url]

[IMG]http://i2.cdn.turner.com/si/2010/football/nfl/02/23/combine.45/terrence-cody-p1.jpg[/IMG][/quote]

Damn. It was strongly suggested, supposedly, to McCoy that he lose weight following the Senior Bowl. Doesn't look like he did. And if he did...Damn!!

Redskins Official 2010 Offense (definetely not MADDEN)
 

[IMG]http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o99/milrenkb/RedskinsO2008-1.jpg?t=1266979712[/IMG]
Let me know if I forgot anyone.

[quote]
WR - T.O.
LT - Samuals
LG - Dockery
C - Weigman
RG - Jhari Evans
RT - Tony Pashos
TE - Fred Davis

WR - Brandon Marshall (werd)

QB - Pennington
HB - Brian Westbrook
HB - Jamal Lewises[/quote]

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[quote=Dirtbag359;665543][IMG]http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o99/milrenkb/RedskinsO2008-1.jpg?t=1266979712[/IMG]
Let me know if I forgot anyone.[/quote]
I think I just threw up in my mouth a little bit. Dude, really? T.O., Westbrook, Pennington, And Samuels?
I hope this is not a wish list, or I think you might be a cowroid in Skins clothing.
:vomit:

Redskins 2010 Super Official (Defenetlay NOT MAdden or Unrealistic) Snyder will spends!!! Super SmART
 

[IMG]http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o99/milrenkb/Redskins2008D-2.jpg[/IMG]
Agens let me know.....oh well only an IDIOT wouldn't see the genius of this. I wanted to put Rolle at FS but I thought that might be overkill.

[quote]CB - Cromartie
OLB - Orakpo
DE - Casey Hampton
ILB - London Fletcher
NT - Vince Wilfork over da money
ILB - Shawne Merriman
DE - Albert Haynesworth
OLB - Julius Peepers
CB - Dunat Robinson

FS - Los
SS - Larons[/quote]

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We've got to start giving drug test to some of the people who post on here. LOL

THE ultTIMATe MatchUPs Super Bowl D vs SupER Bowl 0
 

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[IMG]http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o99/milrenkb/RedskinsO2008-1.jpg?t=1266979712[/IMG]
[/quote]
Come ON NYC *hicup* u can't l00k at dis n tell me it's *hicup* not AWEEEsome

Some other notes so you guyas can c dat I not pretends

- We trade Cooley 4 1st round pick
- We trade Campbell for 2 1st round picks
- We trade CP for Cromartie
- We trade Heyer for 3rd round pick

I think thats 10 picks. NFL won't let us have more.

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[quote=Dirtbag359;665550][IMG]http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o99/milrenkb/Redskins2008D-2.jpg[/IMG]
Agens let me know.....oh well only an IDIOT wouldn't see the genius of this. I wanted to put Rolle at FS but I thought that might be overkill.[/quote]
I like this idea a lot more than your idea for the offense, but I really don't see it being pulled off. I guess one can wish.

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[quote=Redskin Jim;665555]I like this idea a lot more than your idea for the offense, but I really don't see it being pulled off. I guess one can wish.[/quote]

Poor Jimz *hicup* can'tz c's ma genius *hickup*

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[quote=Dirtbag359;665556]Poor Jimz *hicup* can'tz c's ma genius *hickup*[/quote]
LOL, You got me.
I was thinking you were crazy for a minute there Dirtbag.

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[quote=Redskin Jim;665557]LOL, You got me.
I was thinking you were crazy for a minute there Dirtbag.[/quote]

Jim *hickup* one does not.....kid when they paint the Mona Lisa

Lol, good times.

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[quote=SmootSmack;665535]Damn. It was strongly suggested, supposedly, to McCoy that he lose weight following the Senior Bowl. Doesn't look like he did. And if he did...Damn!![/quote]

yep, I mentioned this earlier

I understand at over 300 you're not going to be chiseled, but that's just sloppy

I wouldn't put my bucks on that kid since he won't even try to improve his draft stock.. if there's any motivation out there it's to get drafted high, you can't tell me it will get higher once he gets drafted

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[quote=CultBrennan59;665279]actually I don't know about Terrence Cody anymore, just as long as he doesn't show up to the combine looking like this...

[url]http://i2.cdn.turner.com/si/2010/football/nfl/02/23/combine.45/terrence-cody-p1.jpg[/url]

[IMG]http://i2.cdn.turner.com/si/2010/football/nfl/02/23/combine.45/terrence-cody-p1.jpg[/IMG][/quote]

That boy has bigger hooters than some women that I have dated.

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[quote=Dirtbag359;665299]They really need to start providing shirts to people from Alabama. Two years in a row now.[/quote]

you beat me to it. haha, first andre smith, and now this? sweet lord find that man a shirt.

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[quote=Lotus;665653]That boy has bigger hooters than some women that I have dated.[/quote]


I know it should have a NSFW warning attached to the original post.

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I hope Dirtbag359 is joking, because Hampton will be franchised and Wilfork is franchised and they all play NT which won't work.

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Hampton just got resigned....take him off our wish list

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You guys should be proud of my Non-Madden ultra realistic not a joke team. It's all come from ideas of suggested free agents, trades, and other moves found here, RI, and ES. Basically if those three bodies ran the team this is what we would end up with.

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Bucs are going to let Antonio Bryant go....

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/02/25/bucs-decide-to-move-on-from-antonio-bryant/]Bucs decide to "move on" from Antonio Bryant | ProFootballTalk.com[/url]

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[quote=Ruhskins;663411]Do you realize that without the CBA in place, this offseason prior to the uncapped year most free agents under 30 yrs. old are going to be RFAs? (example: McNeill from San Diego).

So basically, these are your options when it comes to building the offensive line:

- Draft a 1st or 2nd round lineman
- Draft a 4th, 5th, or 7th round lineman
- Trade picks for an RFA
- Sign an older UFA

While we will likely sign an UFA or two and definitely draft a lineman in the later rounds, I just don't see how you don't draft a lineman in the 1st or 2nd round.[/quote]


Just to help out.....

[URL="http://www.footballsfuture.com/2010/fa/ol.html"]2010 NFL Free Agents: OL[/URL]

[SIZE=5]Edit: Never mind. They have Jansen listed as a Redskin. Sorry.[/SIZE]