Re: 2010 NFL Off-Season Rumors and Reports (Week 4)
 

[quote=Lotus;679827]JR speculates that the Skins may draft Berry as part of a move to get Bradford.

[url=http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/nfl-draft/berry-set-to-visit-redskins-th.html]Redskins Insider - Berry set to visit Redskins this week[/url][/quote]

Things may be getting interesting. Come on draft day! The suspense is getting intense.

Re: 2010 NFL Off-Season Rumors and Reports (Week 4)
 

Yeah, April 22 cannot come quickly enough! Three more weeks of hype, speculation, and wild guesses.

Speaking of wild guesses, what about Berry, JC, Carter, and next year's #2 for Bradford?

Re: 2010 NFL Off-Season Rumors and Reports (Week 4)
 

[quote=Lotus;679829]Yeah, April 22 cannot come quickly enough! Three more weeks of hype, speculation, and wild guesses.

Speaking of wild guesses, what about Berry, JC, Carter, and next year's #2 for Bradford?[/quote]

If this were to happen, I'm thinking we'd keep Berry and trade Landry.

Re: 2010 NFL Off-Season Rumors and Reports (Week 4)
 

[quote=Lotus;679829]Yeah, April 22 cannot come quickly enough! Three more weeks of hype, speculation, and wild guesses.

[B]Speaking of wild guesses, what about Berry, JC, Carter, and next year's #2 for Bradford?[/B][/quote]

I still find it funny that all these people are coming up with these Vinny'esque trades for skill position players. Maybe Cerrato should have never left in this case.

Re: 2010 NFL Off-Season Rumors and Reports (Week 4)
 

^ Yup, maybe so.

Re: 2010 NFL Off-Season Rumors and Reports (Week 4)
 

[quote=Lotus;679838]^ Yup, maybe so.[/quote]

Well if Cerrato were here, you know the team would throw the house out the window to get whatever QB Snyder would want. So theses crazy trade proposals would be more likely.

Re: 2010 NFL Off-Season Rumors and Reports (Week 4)
 

[quote=Ruhskins;679836]I still find it funny that all these people are coming up with these Vinny'esque trades for skill position players. Maybe Cerrato should have never left in this case.[/quote]

I understand your point. I was just trying to think through Jason Reid's reasoning. I'm not sure the connection he makes between drafting Berry and trading for Bradford is clear.

Re: 2010 NFL Off-Season Rumors and Reports (Week 4)
 

[quote=Lotus;679841]I understand your point. I was just trying to think through Jason Reid's reasoning. I'm not sure the connection he makes between drafting Berry and trading for Bradford is clear.[/quote]

It sounds more like a swap, they draft Bradford, we draft Berry and then we exchange them?

Ok maybe not, this is what happened in the Rivers/Manning swap:

"The top pick of the draft hasn't been traded since 2004, when San Diego shipped Eli Manning to the New York Giants. [B]The cost was high then -- first-round pick Phillip Rivers, plus a third-rounder in 2004 and first- and fifth-round picks in 2005.[/B] You can bet that if the Rams are listening to offers for the No. 1 pick in this year's draft, the asking price will be similarly high. (The Redskins hold the No. 4 overall pick, the same one the Giants held in '04 when they traded for Manning.)"

That's a lot of f'ing picks.

Re: 2010 NFL Off-Season Rumors and Reports (Week 4)
 

[quote=Ruhskins;679836]I still find it funny that all these people are coming up with these Vinny'esque trades for skill position players. Maybe Cerrato should have never left in this case.[/quote]

Hahahaha well said man. Most skins fans would like nothing but big names players I see.
Here's what everyone should consider, in 5 years when Eric Berry, Russell Okung, Suh, McCoy,etc. have all potentially become star players at their respectful positions everyone will understand why you don't make stupid trades like this.
Let the Rams take Bradford and try to change the worst team in the league into anything past a 4-12 team. It juts won't happen and maybe in 3-4 years we can consider picking him up after his other shoulder get's damaged.

Re: 2010 NFL Off-Season Rumors and Reports (Week 4)
 

Can anyone think of some notable trades in the top layer of the draft for a QB?

Phillip Rivers and Eli Manning come to mind, of course.

Michael Vick and LaDainian Tomlinson... I know a lot of people don't like Michael Vick, but he DID help the Falcons win a lot of games.

Mark Sanchez? Jury's out on that one.

Re: 2010 NFL Off-Season Rumors and Reports (Week 4)
 

[quote=Audi;679847]Can anyone think of some notable trades in the top layer of the draft for a QB?

Phillip Rivers and Eli Manning come to mind, of course.

Michael Vick and LaDainian Tomlinson... I know a lot of people don't like Michael Vick, but he DID help the Falcons win a lot of games.

Mark Sanchez? Jury's out on that one.[/quote]

Unless their running game falls apart, Mark Sanchez has the chance of being successful with the Jets for years to come.

Re: 2010 NFL Off-Season Rumors and Reports (Week 4)
 

[quote=Ruhskins;679843]It sounds more like a swap, they draft Bradford, we draft Berry and then we exchange them?

Ok maybe not, this is what happened in the Rivers/Manning swap:

"The top pick of the draft hasn't been traded since 2004, when San Diego shipped Eli Manning to the New York Giants. [B]The cost was high then -- first-round pick Phillip Rivers, plus a third-rounder in 2004 and first- and fifth-round picks in 2005.[/B] You can bet that if the Rams are listening to offers for the No. 1 pick in this year's draft, the asking price will be similarly high. (The Redskins hold the No. 4 overall pick, the same one the Giants held in '04 when they traded for Manning.)"

[B]That's a lot of f'ing picks.[/B][/quote]

Yes. Hence my attempt to inject players such as JC or Carter into the deal, to lessen the draft pick blow.

Hey, I'm not saying that we should do it. I'm just trying to explore someone else's scenario. Since the Lambs need a QB, it seems reasonable to include JC in a projected deal. And if Shanny is madly in love with Bradford, I'd rather him give up Carter than a draft choice.

Re: 2010 NFL Off-Season Rumors and Reports (Week 4)
 

[quote=Lotus;679860]Yes. Hence my attempt to inject players such as JC or Carter into the deal, to lessen the draft pick blow.

Hey, I'm not saying that we should do it. I'm just trying to explore someone else's scenario. Since the Lambs need a QB, it seems reasonable to include JC in a projected deal. And if Shanny is madly in love with Bradford, I'd rather him give up Carter than a draft choice.[/quote]

If the Rams are smart, they would ask for picks. No one is going to give up a number one for a two picks and players.

Re: 2010 NFL Off-Season Rumors and Reports (Week 4)
 

I think that more likely would be that we draft Clausen, and trade Clausen, Andre Carter, LaRon, and our 6th rounder next year for Sam Bradford

Re: 2010 NFL Off-Season Rumors and Reports (Week 4)
 

Yeah I never really considered the Rams doing something like that but you really never know. Let's just hope they draft Bradford and keep the lions taking their DT of choice and the Bucs not taking Berry. I think we'll have lots of say with our draft pick and get a lot of phone calls on April 22nd.

Re: 2010 NFL Off-Season Rumors and Reports (Week 4)
 

[quote=Ruhskins;679861]If the Rams are smart, they would ask for picks. No one is going to give up a number one for a two picks and players.[/quote]

That may be true.

I am a fan of Bradford but I'm not sure that I am a fan of giving away the farm to draft him, especially since it is easy to just take Okung and feel satisfied with the pick.

Re: 2010 NFL Off-Season Rumors and Reports (Week 4)
 

While Bradford might be worthy of being picked first, he's definitely not a let's give up the farm, can't miss prospect.

I don't see the Skins parting with any future picks to move up and draft Bradford. If he doesn't fall to us, I just don't see him becoming a Redskin. But...as someone else said, you never know.

Re: 2010 NFL Off-Season Rumors and Reports (Week 4)
 

I've read about, heard about, and thought about so many scenarios for the Redskins' draft that my head is spinning. I think I'll just forget about it for now and see what happens as the offseason unfolds.

Re: 2010 NFL Off-Season Rumors and Reports (Week 4)
 

[quote=Lotus;679877]That may be true.

I am a fan of Bradford but [B]I'm not sure that I am a fan of giving away the farm[/B] to draft him, especially since it is easy to just take Okung and feel satisfied with the pick.[/quote]

Well a lot of impatient fans would give up the farm for Bradford. I hope that our FO shows some discipline on this matter.

Re: 2010 NFL Off-Season Rumors and Reports (Week 4)
 

[quote=Audi;679847]C
Michael Vick and LaDainian Tomlinson... I know a lot of people don't like Michael Vick, but he DID help the Falcons win a lot of games.
[/quote]

I'll concede that point. Michael Vick really did a lot for the Falcons early in his career. However he was a little faster and D-Coordinators outside of Tampa didn't know how to gameplan for him. Once they learned how to force him to stay back and pass he became average. If Vick ever wants to be a great NFL QB he's going to have to evolve and learn to read NFL defenses, at least at a level much more advanced then he is now.

Re: 2010 NFL Off-Season Rumors and Reports (Week 4)
 

From the Redskins Fan Mailbag. I tend to agree with how Gary sees it going down.

Question: Do you think the Redskins will trade down in the draft? We have a good quarterback in Jason Campbell and I believe Mike Shanahan is smart enough to realize that. I know the 49ers are desperately in need of a franchise quarterback and they have the 13th and 17th pick in the draft. They might be interested in trading up to get Sam Bradford or Jimmy Clausen with the fourth pick.

-- Andrew S.

Gary: If Bradford and left tackle Russell Okung are both off the draft board when the Redskins pick at No. 4, then I believe the Redskins will explore trading down. Multiple teams should have interest in trading up for one of the two elite defensive tackles, Gerald McCoy or Ndamukong Suh, in the draft. San Francisco would appear to be a good target as a trade partner with the Redskins, whether they want a quarterback or not. However, I’m not sure the 49ers would be willing to yield both of their first-round picks. How about one of their two first-round picks and their second-rounder, at No. 49 overall?

Re: 2010 NFL Off-Season Rumors and Reports (Week 4)
 

[quote=53Fan;679926]From the Redskins Fan Mailbag. I tend to agree with how Gary sees it going down.

Question: Do you think the Redskins will trade down in the draft? We have a good quarterback in Jason Campbell and I believe Mike Shanahan is smart enough to realize that. I know the 49ers are desperately in need of a franchise quarterback and they have the 13th and 17th pick in the draft. They might be interested in trading up to get Sam Bradford or Jimmy Clausen with the fourth pick.

-- Andrew S.

Gary: If Bradford and left tackle Russell Okung are both off the draft board when the Redskins pick at No. 4, then I believe the Redskins will explore trading down. Multiple teams should have interest in trading up for one of the two elite defensive tackles, Gerald McCoy or Ndamukong Suh, in the draft. San Francisco would appear to be a good target as a trade partner with the Redskins, whether they want a quarterback or not. However, I’m not sure the 49ers would be willing to yield both of their first-round picks. [B]How about one of their two first-round picks and their second-rounder, at No. 49 overall?[/B][/quote]
This is a great scenario for the Redskins if Bradford is off the board at #4. I would be ecstatic if we landed Bradford at 4 or this deal yielding 2 O-lineman with our first 3 picks.

Re: 2010 NFL Off-Season Rumors and Reports (Week 4)
 

I'm just hoping we don't take a quarterback. The fact that both of them are reaches at 4 aside, both of their faces are immensely distracting. Bradford looks like he's got downs and Clausen's face is squished. that points not relevant at all, i just thought it would be worth discussion.

Re: 2010 NFL Off-Season Rumors and Reports (Week 4)
 

[quote=Redskin Jim;679943]This is a great scenario for the Redskins if Bradford is off the board at #4. I would be ecstatic if we landed Bradford at 4 or this deal yielding 2 O-lineman with our first 3 picks.[/quote]

SF's #13 and #49 isn't enough to justify trading them the #4 pick. I wouldn't want to trade down that far in the first round.

I might accept Cleveland's #7 pick and both of their 3rd round picks or a first and a second round pick from either Oakland (8 and 39) or Buffalo (9 and 41).

Re: 2010 NFL Off-Season Rumors and Reports (Week 4)
 

[quote=Redskin Jim;679943]This is a great scenario for the Redskins if Bradford is off the board at #4. I would be ecstatic if we landed Bradford at 4 or this deal yielding 2 O-lineman with our first 3 picks.[/quote]

By Bradford, you mean Okung, right?

Re: 2010 NFL Off-Season Rumors and Reports (Week 4)
 

Looks like this guy is getting his act together over the year.

[url=http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/ninerinsider/detail?entry_id=60246&tsp=1]Niner Insider : Boone a boon[/url]

Re: 2010 NFL Off-Season Rumors and Reports (Week 4)
 

Guy sounds like he wants it......

Re: 2010 NFL Off-Season Rumors and Reports (Week 4)
 

[quote=Buster;680021]By Bradford, you mean Okung, right?[/quote]

Bradford has the unique ability to block for himself. This will give us the chance to put 10 recievers on the field and send 5 out on any given play with the other 5 setting up behind the line of scrimage.

Re: 2010 NFL Off-Season Rumors and Reports (Week 4)
 

[quote=SFREDSKIN;680056]Looks like this guy is getting his act together over the year.

[url=http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/ninerinsider/detail?entry_id=60246&tsp=1]Niner Insider : Boone a boon[/url][/quote]


[quote]Boone said he consumes 500 grams of protein among his intake of 6,000 daily calories, which entails stuffing himself with lean chicken, veggies, brown rice and protein shakes.

Read more: [url=http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/ninerinsider/detail?entry_id=60246&tsp=1#ixzz0jiBhitEi]Niner Insider : Boone a boon[/url][/quote]

That sounds great and it is for the like the first week. Then one day you realize crap "I haven't eaten enough today." It's so hard to because the type of food you're eating is very filling.

Re: 2010 NFL Off-Season Rumors and Reports (Week 4)
 

[quote=Dirtbag359;680101]Bradford has the unique ability to block for himself. This will give us the chance to put 10 recievers on the field and send 5 out on any given play with the other 5 setting up behind the line of scrimage.[/quote]

So JZ was just ahead of the game with the swinging gate play. Who knew

Re: 2010 NFL Off-Season Rumors and Reports (Week 4)
 

[quote=KI Skins Fan;679976]SF's #13 and #49 isn't enough to justify trading them the #4 pick. I wouldn't want to trade down that far in the first round.

I might accept Cleveland's #7 pick and both of their 3rd round picks or a first and a second round pick from either Oakland (8 and 39) or Buffalo (9 and 41).[/quote]

Boswell of the Wapo agrees with you, as do I.

[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03/30/AR2010033003787.html]Thomas Boswell - Sam Bradford looks great, but the Redskins have so many options with the fourth pick in the NFL draft - washingtonpost.com[/url]

#13th worked very well for us last year. Not unlucky at all.

Re: 2010 NFL Off-Season Rumors and Reports (Week 4)
 

[quote=Buster;680021]By Bradford, you mean Okung, right?[/quote]
Yes, I would be happy with Okung at #4 if Bradford is off the board. I think I had somewhat of a Freudian slip in my post where I had already given the premise of SB being gone.
I do think that IF Bradford is there at #4, we should take him. I do think if SB is NOT there at #4, we should try and trade down FIRST. I like Okung, but if we can get 2 O-lineman and an additional stud player in a position of need in the first 2 rounds, that seems to be more valuable than Okung. I would love to snag a Javid Best, Rolando McClain, or even the LB Spikes from UF with that 3rd pick via the trade down.

Re: 2010 NFL Off-Season Rumors and Reports (Week 4)
 

[quote=Dirtbag359;680103]That sounds great and it is for the like the first week. Then one day you realize crap "I haven't eaten enough today." It's so hard to because the type of food you're eating is very filling.[/quote]
no doubt.. when I was bulking heavily I'd be going through boxes of rice in a couple of days, family pack of chicken in 2 days, whole heads of broccoli a day, canister of oatmeal at least once a week, etc

a lot of my cals were def liquid, though the shakes get thick too

Re: 2010 NFL Off-Season Rumors and Reports (Week 4)
 

This can't be threadworthy, all I want to know is why FredDavisBro86 and Tanner(couldn't remember his screen name) weren't on here big pimpin the race of the century?!?!
:pimp:
[url=http://blog.redskins.com/2010/03/31/chris-cooley-and-fred-davis-ride-tricycles-at-the-caps-game/]Chris Cooley and Fred Davis Ride Tricycles At The Caps Game[/url]

Re: 2010 NFL Off-Season Rumors and Reports (Week 4)
 

Not that I trust JLC but this would almost guarantee that Detroit doesn't take Okung:

JasonLaCanfora

Lions are considering trading for Seattle G Rob Sims, a restricted free agent. More on NFL.com.

Re: 2010 NFL Off-Season Rumors and Reports (Week 4)
 

^Okungs a T, sims is a guard...doesn't mean anything.

Re: 2010 NFL Off-Season Rumors and Reports (Week 4)
 

[quote=CultBrennan59;680253]^Okungs a T, sims is a guard...doesn't mean anything.[/quote]

Well, Detroit has a tackle who they like, but if they take Okung will move to G. Their LT is relatively solid, but their G is not. The reason they have looked at Okung is to move the T to G and strengthen two positions with one pick. If they strengthen the G, than they will not take a LT and push their starter to a backup role. So, in fact, it does mean something.

Re: 2010 NFL Off-Season Rumors and Reports (Week 4)
 

[quote=CRedskinsRule;680257]Well, Detroit has a tackle who they like, but if they take Okung will move to G. Their LT is relatively solid, but their G is not. The reason they have looked at Okung is to move the T to G and strengthen two positions with one pick. If they strengthen the G, than they will not take a LT and push their starter to a backup role. So, in fact, it does mean something.[/quote]

Man, Detroit could easily trade down (if the Rams don't take Bradford) and get Iupati (sp?). Although, I wonder if Jim Schwartz would pass taking Suh or McCoy.

Re: 2010 NFL Off-Season Rumors and Reports (Week 4)
 

NFL | Two showing a lot of interest in Murphy
Comment (0)
Tue, 30 Mar 2010 17:37:41 -0700
Aaron Wilson, of the National Football Post, reports South Florida CB Jerome Murphy said the Baltimore Ravens and Washington Redskins have had a lot of contact with him. Murphy said, "I like Baltimore. They showed a lot of interest. I've met with them and I had a real good feeling with them and the Redskins. I like other teams, too, but you get a certain vibe with the Ravens and the Redskins."



Read more: [url=http://www.kffl.com/hotw/nfl#ixzz0jlGo4fZ3]NFL News and Rumors - Hot off the Wire Fantasy Football News[/url]

Re: 2010 NFL Off-Season Rumors and Reports (Week 4)
 

[quote=Ruhskins;680259]Man, Detroit could easily trade down (if the Rams don't take Bradford) and get Iupati (sp?). Although, I wonder if Jim Schwartz would pass taking Suh or McCoy.[/quote]

I think there is no way they pass on the DT. They brought the DT from St. Louis, and Schwartz will want to have him pair up and mentor a young stud. Then they can pick up Pouncey, or any of several other C/G options with the 34th pick.

A nod to SS33's mock draft, it really made me look at the other teams from their point of view. It was a great exercise.