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I rather draft a late round RB who could fill in on 3rd down and help in the return game. These three vets already have bruised egos. This won't be 'healthy' competition.

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[quote=SmootSmack;681558]I think LJ's advantage is his size. He can be an old power back. I'm not sure Parker can regain his speed after a certain point, and that's all he's got really.[/quote]

Diet, lose weight, start running alot. Incorperate P90x, and do a lot of short suttles/ sprints. It doesn't work out.... adios.

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[quote=diehard;681569]I rather draft a late round RB who could fill in on 3rd down and help in the return game. These three vets already have bruised egos. This won't be 'healthy' competition.[/quote]

maybe that's what Alridge can do.. we may still do that anyways though

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[quote=diehard;681569]I rather draft a late round RB who could fill in on 3rd down and help in the return game. These three vets already have bruised egos. This won't be 'healthy' competition.[/quote]

We have Thomas, Buchanen, Hall, Moss, and Alridge. Did I forget anyone? 5 guys who can return kicks. Why do you want another RB who can do it?

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[quote=SBXVII;681564]Honestly, I do see this happening. Good, bad, or indifferent, we need to fill ARE's spot and he won't cost a lot to pick up.

Perhaps they feel they can wait until next yr to revamp the RB spot. Pick up the QB they want, get an OL, LB, and a FS. Then invite as many UFA OL and LB's to camp.[/quote]

I could too and you can imagine how much he would like playing 4 games against dallas or philly. I would rather us trade for marshall if we didnt have to give up too much. Either the 37th pick if we cant get gaither for it or something like cooley and rodgers for him.

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Thomas has shown promise in the return game. The others mentioned have yet to prove it for the Skins. A late round RB won't get a lot of reps behind veteran backs, so there's added value as returner.

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So here's where we're at right now. We cut our old over paid RBs and picked up old under paid RBs. Not bad, not bad. An anti-Cerrato move. I'm not convinced that these guys are going to be on the roster anyway. We might keep two of the three, but I have a feeling that Shann-a-Allen will find a good RB under the radar in the back part of the draft, or bring in an UDFA. Either way, I'm very excited and enthusiastic about how our front office is working now. This was long overdue.

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[quote=Trample the Elderly;681577]So here's where we're at right now. We cut our old over paid RBs and picked up old under paid RBs. Not bad, not bad. An anti-Cerrato move. I'm not convinced that these guys are going to be on the roster anyway. We might keep two of the three, but I have a feeling that Shann-a-Allen will find a good RB under the radar in the back part of the draft, or bring in an UDFA. Either way, I'm very excited and enthusiastic about how our front office is working now. This was long overdue.[/quote]

I think Cerrato's strategy was also overpay a couple of big name free agents then find a bunch of guys to fill your roster with minimum contracts due to cap constraints.

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[quote=Dirtbag359;681583]I think Cerrato's strategy was also overpay a couple of big name free agents then find a bunch of guys to fill your roster with minimum contracts due to cap constraints.[/quote]

You may be right. Whatever his strategy was, I'm glad it's no longer employed in Ashburn.

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[quote=diehard;681575]Thomas has shown promise in the return game. The others mentioned have yet to prove it for the Skins. A late round RB won't get a lot of reps behind veteran backs, so there's added value as returner.[/quote]

I think Thomas did admirably. Definitly better then ARE. Moss we know can do the job and has done it well. I thought Hall has done it before just not with the Skins. Buchanen has good hands and is fast so obviously he will need to be tried out. Then there is Alridge. If he can keep from fumbling he would be a good pick for he job.

Now that we have a full stable of RB's I just don't see the need to go out this year and pick up a RB, WR, or CB in this yrs draft. Especially when he have drastic need of a more accurate QB. You guys talk of picking up a 2nd round QB, hell we can't get our late 1st round QB to become a franchise QB. We have Grossman who was a late 1st round QB. Some have mentioned picking up a mid round QB after picking up 2 OL. We have a mid round QB in Colt. We don't need one of those either. I'll even do you one better... we have an UFA in Bartel. The only thing we don't have is a top 5 drafted QB. I think I'd rather take a stab at that now. Especially since none of the others are franchise QB's.

After QB we can pick up OL in round 2. Maybe we get to trade back then if someone see's something they like? If not OL.

Jarmin is our 3rd pick.

Pick a 3/4 LB in the 4th round.

OL in the 5th.

FS in the 7th.

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[quote=SBXVII;681588]I think Thomas did admirably. Definitly better then ARE. Moss we know can do the job and has done it well. I thought Hall has done it before just not with the Skins. Buchanen has good hands and is fast so obviously he will need to be tried out. Then there is Alridge. If he can keep from fumbling he would be a good pick for he job.

Now that we have a full stable of RB's I just don't see the need to go out this year and pick up a RB, WR, or CB in this yrs draft. Especially when he have drastic need of a more accurate QB. You guys talk of picking up a 2nd round QB, hell we can't get our late 1st round QB to become a franchise QB. We have Grossman who was a late 1st round QB. Some have mentioned picking up a mid round QB after picking up 2 OL. We have a mid round QB in Colt. We don't need one of those either. I'll even do you one better... we have an UFA in Bartel. The only thing we don't have is a top 5 drafted QB. I think I'd rather take a stab at that now. Especially since none of the others are franchise QB's.

After QB we can pick up OL in round 2. Maybe we get to trade back then if someone see's something they like? If not OL.

Jarmin is our 3rd pick.

Pick a 3/4 LB in the 4th round.

OL in the 5th.

FS in the 7th.[/quote]


What round was Brady picked in, Carr was picked were again & Russell it's not were u pick them it's how you evaluate them.

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[quote=Dirtbag359;681583]I think Cerrato's strategy was also overpay a couple of big name free agents then find a bunch of guys to fill your roster with minimum contracts due to cap constraints.[/quote]

Yeah, Cerrato would have got either LJ or Fast Willie for there combined current contract.

I love the move. I orginally wanted Fast Willie over LJ. Now I am thrilled we have both.

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[quote=NYCskinfan82;681590]What round was Brady picked in, Carr was picked were again & Russell it's not were u pick them it's how you evaluate them.[/quote]

Yep just like Payton Manning, Eli Manning, Sanchez, Stafford. Your totally correct.

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[quote=warpaint;681591]Yeah, Cerrato would have got either LJ or Fast Willie for there combined current contract.

[B]I love the move. I orginally wanted Fast Willie over LJ. Now I am thrilled we have both[/B].[/quote]

Yep me too. Can't wait to see how Shanahan works all these guys in to the system.

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[quote=tryfuhl;681490]yeah.. I reminded Matty to update the tracker for Medlock a couple of times but no such luck so far haha

ahh yes Ryan[/quote]

He was a pre-free agency pickup that's why I didn't include him

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[quote=budw38;681508]Now if we could only land Spiller :)[/quote]

Hey we can dream!

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[quote=freddyg12;681511]Soley from the tb positon it does, but factor in Rock's special teams play & it makes a big difference on the roster. Who of these guys can play spec. teams? will DT play less on spec. teams if he's starting wr? Then is Marko going to play more teams?

Somewhere there's got to be some special teams players between these 2 positions. We'll see if any rooks or journeyman make it. I'd prefer to see a rookie rb (undrafted fa would be best case) that plays teams make the roster at #3 & WP gets cut. Will make for some interesting decisions come cutting time.[/quote]

Buchanon can return so we're not limited to keeping that #3 RB spot for teams.

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[quote=SBXVII;681596]Yep just like Payton Manning, Eli Manning, [B]Sanchez, Stafford[/B]. Your totally correct.[/quote]

Please they've been in the League one year & Sanchez has a great OL please you know this he has a great OL. It's how you evaluate your QB if you have a good coach you can get a good maybe even great QB in the later rounds that basically goes for any position i just beleive OL is a bigger need.

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This thread going for the record of where/were, their/there, and your/you're misuse ever.

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[quote=Daseal;681606]This thread going for the record of where/were, their/there, and your/you're misuse ever.[/quote]

I'd be happy to just stop seeing "loose" being used for "lose". ;)

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[quote=cdskins26;681574]I could too and you can imagine how much he would like playing 4 games against dallas or philly. I would rather us trade for marshall if we didnt have to give up too much. Either the 37th pick if we cant get gaither for it or something like[B] cooley and rodgers for him[/B].[/quote]


cooley and rogers for marshall ? are you crazy ?

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[quote=wolfeskins;681609]cooley and rogers for marshall ? are you crazy ?[/quote]

At least he suggested a trade that would be likely be accepted. My personal favorites are something to the effect of "uh Andre Carte and a 5th round pick for Marshall and a first."

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The W. Parker pick-up is nice, but what O-line is going to run block for our so called three headed monster? And what O-line is going to pass block for our "Simple" Jason? Ours?!? Surely you jest.

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[quote=Dirtbag359;681610]At least he suggested a trade that would be likely be accepted. [B] My personal favorites are something to the effect of "uh Andre Carte and a 5th round pick for Marshall and a first[/B]."[/quote]

Throw in Rey Maualuga and you've got a deal! I know Denver doesn't have him but they could make a trade with the Bengals for him and give him to us. We could throw in Westbrook if we had to so he could take Champ Baileys place when he retires. That's GOLD baby!

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[quote=Dirtbag359;681610]At least he suggested a trade that would be likely be accepted. My personal favorites are something to the effect of "uh Andre Carte and a 5th round pick for Marshall and a first."[/quote]

true. i'm just tired of the skins getting reemed all the time with trades. imo, cooley and rogers for marshall would be us giving up way too much.

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[quote=Mattyk;681599]Hey we can dream![/quote]
If Samuels and Jansen were in their primes , Spiller would be an exciting addition to the team . I do like the LJ , CP , WP backfield , now if DT & MK break out this year !

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I think Portis will not be on this team past camp.
Would like to see similar competition on the offensive line.
How about bringing Flozelle Adams in for a year?

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The signing does give them flexibility for the draft. They can afford to wait until the 5th or 7th round to pick up a back. Still need to get a 3rd down receiving back on the roster, some kind of a screen or scat back for change of pace.

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[quote=jdc65;681616]The signing does give them flexibility for the draft. They can afford to wait until the 5th or 7th round to pick up a back. Still need to get a 3rd down receiving back on the roster, some kind of a screen or scat back for change of pace.[/quote]
If CP is cut , then I would expect them to draft a RB , I think Parker is fast enough to be a scat/screen type for Shanny .... we will see .

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[quote=jdc65;681615]I think Portis will not be on this team past camp.
Would like to see similar competition on the offensive line.
How about bringing Flozelle Adams in for a year?[/quote]


Flozelle is, as Barkley would say, "Trbl". Plus that would break the "no Cowboy" rule which after Suisham must be followed at all costs.

There is going to be competition on the line, we have 3 spots open right now. Although BIG MIKE is the early favorite at RG!

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[quote=budw38;681617]If CP is cut , then I would expect them to draft a RB , I think Parker is fast enough to be a scat/screen type for Shanny .... we will see .[/quote]

It's unlikely that Portis will be cut due to his contract. The question remains if Portis has it in him to overcome his concussion-itis.

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S&A improved the RB position cheap. No over paying, just one year deals for both RB's. Smart. Low risk.
I would not be shocked if Portis gets shopped around just to see what he might attract.
The draft will be very interesting.

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[quote=SmootSmack;681527]Ryan Torain's still out there.[/quote]

I was hoping we would have signed him.

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Parker would be a wasted roster spot IMO. His breakaway speed is gone, he's not a pounder, useless on special teams. I hope he is just another big name to push Portis and LJ in camp but we cut him in August. I would like our RB's to be Portis, LJ, Alridge, Torrain & a draft pick like Joe McKnight.

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I think this allows us to wait until next year for the RB position, and lets the staff install the ZBS with enough prospects drafted this year to be able to pluck an appropriate back for it next draft. Young talent on the OL is WAY more of a pressing issue, plus it would set up to be able to THEN draft a back that fits our scheme, not one that has to adjust alot or one that we hope fits well, but we are already wedded to. RB is fine for now the way I see it. And we have 2 proven return men on the roster now, 3 if you count Deangelo.........I dont see the PRESSING need there either......... not that it wouldnt eventually be looked at.

Plus - this draft - Lots of O Line, Short on RB's.........
Redskins - Short on picks, 3 vet RB's already on roster

I would be way surprised if they waste a mid round pick on a RB in a crappy class such as this years instead of finding an athletic fit for the ZBS as a base for next year, when we could snag a RB in the 2nd or 3rd round without the OL needs, already addressed.....

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totally shocked...I thought this was a late April Fools joke or something.
I totally LOVE this move....think about it folks.
When Shanny took this team, everyone said....he can make a star out of any RB....well....lookie here!....3 guys with heavy experience carrying the load at a high level. What does that really tell you....it tells you what Vinnie couldn't admit because he's been in denial for a couple years.

The FO completely understands that this teams greatest weakness is the OLINE....therefore, we need some really experienced backs to grab any yards we can....even if we get 2 starting rookies, we'll have to run the ball a lot to keep the pressure off of rookie Olinemen...it just seems to me that this is a precursor to drafting 2 starting olinemen since we can depend on the RBs to bail them out...not to mention Campbells toughness...Campbell did his best work under Gibbs run first attack and they seem to know that too.
It is good to see that a front office understands the personel as well as us!

The only way I see us drafting a QB in the first is if we have a deal to trade our 2nd rounder to Baltimore for their vet OT....cant have a rookie QB in there with a rookie LT from the 2nd round...unless the goal is to keep the QB on the bench....I just don't see that happening...If we draft a QB at 4, we will play him by midseason at latest, cant do that with a rookie LT.

I really don't buy this Campbell is gone crap...he is solid and way better than the top 2 QBs will be over the next 2-3 years.

Its pretty simple to me now....draft the best player at 4 even if it is a DT or safety, we've got a tough QB and solid RBs....who gives a crap anymore!
As long as we get a OT in either round 1 or 2, we should be fine with the existing cast of characters

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just my opinion but i think alridge still has the most upside out of any of the backs we have on our roster, i have a feeling he will have a break out year this year and be our feature back for the next few years

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I wasn't aware Willie played Tackle. What? He doesn't. Since we don't currently have more than maybe 1/2 of a starting NFL tackle on our team I will withhold judgment. But I guess this does give us a pretty good indication of what they think of CP.

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Look at the roster for Portis' last year at Miami. He has emerged from stiffer competition than this.

If he commits himself this offseason, not only will he start but he will have a big year.

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[quote=4mrusmc;681611]The W. Parker pick-up is nice, but what O-line is going to run block for our so called three headed monster? And what O-line is going to pass block for our "Simple" Jason? Ours?!? Surely you jest.[/quote]
seems like we have several months to figure that one out