Re: Flozell Adams at right tackle?
 

^ Maybe we're waiting until after the draft to re-sign Levi. Or maybe he's waiting until after the draft to sign, since his MO is that he is a starting left tackle only.

Re: Flozell Adams at right tackle?
 

He should just retire if he wants to be a starting LT. It won't come until someone is dumb or desperate, like their guy goes down.

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No Flozell...too old, too fat, too slow, too lazy.

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id take him as a right tackle. anything to make this line better.

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This thread is insane, screw him id rather take a chance on a rookie or anyone else. Id rather us do it without ex cowboys, my aligence is to the burgundy and gold, i hate everything silver and blue, ar anything that has been associated with their franchise. And i live right in the heart of tx. These guys make me sick.

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[quote=CrustyRedskin;685172]This thread is insane, screw him id rather take a chance on a rookie or anyone else. [B]Id rather us do it without ex cowboys, my aligence is to the burgundy and gold,[/B] i hate everything silver and blue, ar anything that has been associated with their franchise. And i live right in the heart of tx. These guys make me sick.[/quote]

with that statement, you arent showing [I]allegiance[/I] to the skins, but rather, just talking crazy. its absurd to not take good players because they used to play for the cowboys. if they make the redskins better, it doesnt matter.

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Ok then i dont want him for all his penalties and cheap shots.

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[quote=CrustyRedskin;685181]Ok then i dont want him for all his penalties and cheap shots.[/quote]

fair enough, that's certainly a valid point.

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[quote=johno;685179]with that statement, you arent showing [I]allegiance[/I] to the skins, but rather, just talking crazy. its absurd to not take good players because they used to play for the cowboys. if they make the redskins better, it doesnt matter.[/quote]

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not sure what you are saying here. are you implying that adams will be bad because suisam was? come on.

Re: Flozell Adams at right tackle?
 

I wouldn't want Adams at LT, but at RT he's certainly a better option than anyone currently on the roster.

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[quote=Mattyk;685245]I wouldn't want Adams at LT, but at RT he's certainly a better option than anyone currently on the roster.[/quote]

adams at RT and Okung at LT would be okay by me.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;685100]For the same reason we cut Randy Thomas. I believe he was set to make like $6-7MM, Dallas didn't feel he was worth that, and the lack of a salary cap allowed the team to release him without penalty.

That, and they have some promising young LT on the team already. Oh well, maybe their loss will be our gain. [B] How awesome would it be if we signed all these cast-out NFC-East veterans and managed to go to the superbowl... in Dallas[/B].[/quote]

That thought crossed my mind a few minutes ago...I blamed it on drug abuse when I was younger. But yeah, awesome would be an understatement.

Re: Flozell Adams at right tackle?
 

[quote=johno;685241]not sure what you are saying here. are you implying that adams will be bad because suisam was? come on.[/quote]

See also:

Deion Sanders
Matt Vanderbeek
Peppi Zellner
John Gesek
Calvin Hill
Jason Fabini
Randall Godfrey
Omar Stoutmire
Jean Fugett
Jose Cortez
Gene Cronin
Scott Galbraith



When we get players from Dallas, we always get:

a.) Horribly-reduced production
b.) Just no production
c.) Screwed

Re: Flozell Adams at right tackle?
 

Flozell isn't so hot at pass blocking.. maybe he'd be better on the right side but who knows. He can still run block fine, he'd fit better in a power scheme I think. I'd honestly rather see them try to coach Heyer or whoever up and then see what's available a bit before the season begins. If he's still around then, fine.

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[quote=tryfuhl;685280]Flozell isn't so hot at pass blocking.. maybe he'd be better on the right side but who knows. He can still run block fine, he'd fit better in a power scheme I think. I'd honestly rather see them try to coach Heyer or whoever up and then see what's available a bit before the season begins. If he's still around then, fine.[/quote]

This.

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[quote=Mattyk;685245]I wouldn't want Adams at LT, but at RT he's certainly a better option than anyone currently on the roster.[/quote]
Just remember that Flozell has a 40% hearing loss in his left ear. Thats the reason he always played on the left side of center.

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I would take him because we dont have the picks to draft him. we are not patching up many holes this draft sadly. It seems way too similar in that we have only 4 picks and one in the top 100.

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I'm not sure the interest in Flozell is all that serious. I guess for the right price he's worth bringing in to camp

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dirty player or not ill take him

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Someone else will get cut that I'm sure we'd rather have.

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[quote=sandtrapjack;685307]Just remember that Flozell has a 40% hearing loss in his left ear. Thats the reason he always played on the left side of center.[/quote]

wow didn't know that... that would be even more false starts than he already gets- no thanks!

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some of you guys are talking about him being beat all the time and can't handle speed rushers and he is always false starting and he leg whips everybody and he is worthless I have only one question: how the hell has he made those pro bowls?

Anyway, for my part, he would be a good addition considering we have no 2nd round pick or 3rd round pick. Some of you complainers and whiners who say NO to everything you just don't seem to understand, need to understand this. Whenever you have a hole to fill, you can say no only until the game starts and then you MUST fill that hole, regardless of whether you like a player or not.

Give me a Pro Bowl player to fill a starting slot and I will take it every time.

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[quote=sandtrapjack;685307]Just remember that Flozell has a 40% hearing loss in his left ear. Thats the reason he always played on the left side of center.[/quote]

:pffff:

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[quote=diehardskin2982;685325]wow didn't know that... that would be even more false starts than he already gets- no thanks![/quote]

So put him at Guard. How hard is it to see the ball get lifted off the ground. Plus he's closer to the QB in order to hear the play calls.

Re: Flozell Adams at right tackle?
 

[quote=internetcareer;685348]some of you guys are talking about him being beat all the time and can't handle speed rushers and he is always false starting and he leg whips everybody and he is worthless I have only one question: how the hell has he made those pro bowls?

Anyway, for my part, he would be a good addition considering we have no 2nd round pick or 3rd round pick. Some of you complainers and whiners who say NO to everything you just don't seem to understand, need to understand this. Whenever you have a hole to fill, you can say no only until the game starts and then you MUST fill that hole, regardless of whether you like a player or not.

Give me a Pro Bowl player to fill a starting slot and I will take it every time.[/quote]
How did Roy Williams make it all of those times? There's a huge Cowboy following across the country and in the media.

The guy was pretty good up until a few years ago. Since then he just hasn't played at nearly the same level. 2008 he just piggybacked his previous PB appearances.

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it's funny how everyone has a different opinion on this guy .. I say PASS on this move, it just smells of Vinny Cerrato and that's not our style anymore

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[quote=tryfuhl;685361]How did Roy Williams make it all of those times? There's a huge Cowboy following across the country and in the media.

The guy was pretty good up until a few years ago. Since then he just hasn't played at nearly the same level. 2008 he just piggybacked his previous PB appearances.[/quote]

This is accurate. Guy is now average at best, which is still better than Heyer, but, he's a dirtbag cowboy that cheats. We can find a better option.

JUST SAY NO SHANAHAN.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;684922]And if you think that signing Adams is bad because he's an ex Cowboy, how about if TO also signs? Then what? Will people stop being fans? Whatever takes to win and plug holes.[/quote]

Agreed, some are to emotionally invested. Who cares what uniform someone else wore before they came to Washington.

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[quote=Kalisto2010;685375]Agreed, some are to emotionally invested. Who cares what uniform someone else wore before they came to Washington.[/quote]

You have to admit, you have 2 players of the same position. Same age, same contract, same talent all around. One has been a Cowboy for an extended period of time, and the other has been playing for the KC Chiefs. I think u go with the player from the Chefs. There is a reason that the Redskins - Cowboys are the greatest rivalry in all of football. Its because we hate all that is silver and gray, and wouldn't dare take their leftovers.

Cm'on now.

It may be that Shanny doesn't hold the same feelings of contempt towards everything Dallas as we lifelong fans do. He just started here. But hopefully, Snyder will let him in on the secret. WE HATE DALLAS!

Re: Flozell Adams at right tackle?
 

[quote=tryfuhl;685361]How did Roy Williams make it all of those times? There's a huge Cowboy following across the country and in the media.

The guy was pretty good up until a few years ago. Since then he just hasn't played at nearly the same level. 2008 he just piggybacked his previous PB appearances.[/quote]

So all the cowboys are terrible. They only make pro bowls because everybody is a cowboy fan. And of course we lose all our games because the refs are against us.

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[quote=internetcareer;685386]So all the cowboys are terrible. They only make pro bowls because everybody is a cowboy fan. And of course we lose all our games because the refs are against us.[/quote]

You sure u are on the correct site m8??? I mean, it seems you are always taking the pessimistic view on whatever topic u post on.

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What I meant was it is just surprising to hear those types of things from a tried and true redskin fan.

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We need to sign somebody that's for damn sure. Even if we draft Okung, we still need another starting tackle not named Stephon Heyer.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk;684885]I wouldn't be against it. And no I don't care about him being an ex-Cowboy. If he can be a short term solution at RT I say go for it.



lol no way. flozell adams can't even read!

Re: Flozell Adams at right tackle?
 

If the FO thinks he can help then i'm for it. They know more than i do.

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Here is one possibility that could occur, at least with the way Shanny is thinking.

Flozell Adams is signed....Okung is gone at #4...so the Redskins trade down and somehow pick up Marshall. I have no idea what draft picks get swapped but getting Adams for left tackle along with McNabb at QB will significantly improve the likelyhood that Shanny will want Marshall. We still need an offensive lineman in the draft however.

With Marshall and Thomas as wideouts and Santana in the slot it seems like the Skins might have the most potent passing attack in the NFL....if the offensive line is improved.
that doesn't even take Davis and Cooley into consideration.

Re: Flozell Adams at right tackle?
 

[quote=SBXVII;685356]So put him at Guard. How hard is it to see the ball get lifted off the ground. Plus he's closer to the QB in order to hear the play calls.[/quote]


That is Big Mike's spot!!!! Doc Walker says that Big Mike is in great shape. I think someone used the word, "lean". ha ha

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Definitely not Flozell at LT, i can see RT, but not LT. Here is one possibility. Trade down with san fran for both of their 1st rounders for our 1st and 4th rounder, then, we use the 13th pick for Bulaga or Anthony Davis of Rutgers, or the USC LT Brown, and trade the 17 for marshall, strait up.

Could that work? If Suh drops, or Okung is there, would San Fran be interested in either of those guys? That would be a daggon good draft for us. Then, if we can scratch out a 2nd or 3rd for Campbell and some others, and go G or BPA, this could be one of the best offseasons ever for the skins.

I just keep envisioning this tho.

Carter Haynesworth Suh Orakpo

Best D Line in NFL History right off the bat. Ridiculous.

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I could care less about him being a former cowboy. He is a liability with penalties and we need to seriously address the o-line and stop trying to put a patchwork together.