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MTK 04-29-2010 07:37 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;696835]He died a while ago, and it was a highly underrated show with a phenomenal theme song. But that's not why

Google News Mr. Belvedere and that should give you a clue[/quote]

The theme song cracks me up every time

Streaks on the china...

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgPs2nxRBSA]YouTube - 80's Mr. Belvedere TV Intro[/ame]

GMScud 04-29-2010 07:55 PM

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[quote=SBXVII;696823]and if he hits a brick wall? lol. I mean what if he does not pan out as good as they thought this yr 2010? Now they are stuck paying him 12.25 mil if he sucks donkey d!#ks.[/quote]

That was actually a smart move by Philly. This way he doesn't spend his first season as a starter in a contract year, and 2 yrs, $12.25M is a pittance compared to the salaries of the other three starters in the NFC East. And if he doesn't work out, they don't owe him anything past 2011. Another smart, shrewd move by Andy Reid IMO. Only a 1 year extension for an unproven QB.

celts32 04-30-2010 10:18 AM

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I don't see any reason to worry about a McNabb extension. It will get done. The last thing McNabb wants to do is play out this year without an extension and risk getting hurt which will cost him the last big payday of his career. And with the threat of a labor dispute after this season...he will sign a contract before he takes a live snap.

dmek25 08-03-2010 01:25 PM

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time to start worrying. since Favre "retired" again, the skins need to get this done. don't want McNabb leaving for Minn.

dmek25 08-03-2010 01:27 PM

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Sal Pal: "McNabb wanted to go to Minnesota all along. Prob won't sign extension with #Redskins now" [url=http://sbnation.com/e/1367115]Sal Paolantonio: McNabb Wanted to go to Minnesota All Along - Hogs Haven[/url]
and this....

Gmanc711 08-03-2010 01:29 PM

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If he doesnt get resigned, franchise tag needs to go on for next season. As far as I'm concerned, we have McNabb on a two year deal, and will franchise him if we need to do so. I understand that will be a hefty price tag, but I think thats a no brainer. If Minnestoa wants to take him at that point, they can give us the two first rounders in return (I think thats the compensation).

tryfuhl 08-03-2010 01:31 PM

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Don't think that he'll do that but like the guy who covered it said, he may have wished it happened that way.

Paintrain 08-03-2010 02:12 PM

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[quote=dmek25;716984]Sal Pal: "McNabb wanted to go to Minnesota all along. Prob won't sign extension with #Redskins now" [url=http://sbnation.com/e/1367115]Sal Paolantonio: McNabb Wanted to go to Minnesota All Along - Hogs Haven[/url]
and this....[/quote]

Sal Pal continues to be a joke.. The Redskins will slap the franchise tag on McNabb so quickly it will make Pal's toupee spin. He's just a bitter Eagles fan..

Monkeydad 08-03-2010 02:17 PM

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[quote=dmek25;716984]Sal Pal: "McNabb wanted to go to Minnesota all along. Prob won't sign extension with #Redskins now" [URL="http://sbnation.com/e/1367115"]Sal Paolantonio: McNabb Wanted to go to Minnesota All Along - Hogs Haven[/URL]
and this....[/quote]

Hogwash.


We could end up finishing the year better than the Vikings, something I would not have said last week with the assumption Favre would be back. Now Sidney Rice may need hip surgery.

McNabb is buying into the Redskins as a system and winner. You can tell he's excited about being here. He'll sign.

The labor issues are what's preventing the contract...and it's happening to many players other than McNabb.



Bruce Allen doesn't agree with the ESPN fairy tales:

[url=http://voices.washingtonpost.com/dcsportsbog/2010/07/bruce_allen_says_mcnabb_will_b.html]D.C. Sports Bog - Bruce Allen says McNabb will be a Redskin "for years"[/url]

SmootSmack 08-03-2010 02:23 PM

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What's Sal is saying is true that McNabb's preferred choice was Minnesota, and it's a legit opinion that he has (has had for a while) that McNabb will sign with Minnesota as a free-agent next year. I happen to disagree, but it makes sense what he is saying.

However, as I said in another thread, all that has really nothing to do with Favre "retiring" today because it's not like McNabb is going to up and leave the Redskins now and it's not like anyone really thought Favre was playing more than this upcoming year.

Statement is being blown out of proportion

MTK 08-03-2010 02:29 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;717003]What's Sal is saying is true that McNabb's preferred choice was Minnesota, and it's a legit opinion that he has (has had for a while) that McNabb will sign with Minnesota as a free-agent next year. I happen to disagree, but it makes sense what he is saying.

[B]However, as I said in another thread, all that has really nothing to do with Favre "retiring" today because it's not like McNabb is going to up and leave the Redskins now and it's not like anyone really thought Favre was playing more than this upcoming year.[/B]

[B]Statement is being blown out of proportion[/B][/quote]

End of story.

Redskins_P 08-03-2010 02:45 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;717003]Statement is being blown out of proportion[/quote]

No kidding. Lavar and Dukes can't stop talking about it on the radio. They're asking fans to call in and voice their "concern". Ridiculous. Earlier on the Mike Wise show they dedicated the entire f-ing show to Colt Brennan.

Its really sad how they blow everything out of porportion.

12thMan 08-03-2010 02:46 PM

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Is franchising him an option with the looming CBA lockout in 2011?

Monkeydad 08-03-2010 02:47 PM

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[quote=Redskins_P;717022]No kidding. Lavar and Dukes can't stop talking about it on the radio. They're asking fans to call in and voice their "concern". Ridiculous. Earlier on the Mike Wise show they dedicated the entire f-ing show to Colt Brennan.

Its really sad how they blow [COLOR=Red][B][SIZE=7]everything [/SIZE][/B][/COLOR]out of porportion.[/quote]

You said it... :doh:

tryfuhl 08-03-2010 02:49 PM

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some guy called into the fan earlier all pissed and calling McNabb a dickhead and everything, was kind of funny

GTripp0012 08-03-2010 02:55 PM

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[quote=12thMan;717024]Is franchising him an option with the looming CBA lockout in 2011?[/quote]All I can point to is that there won't be any player movement prior to the start of the 2011 league year. And though that typically means March 1, that could be a lot closer to August or September next year.

Really. Boring. Offseason.

12thMan 08-03-2010 02:57 PM

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[quote=GTripp0012;717032]All I can point to is that there won't be any player movement prior to the start of the 2011 league year. And though that typically means March 1, that could be a lot closer to August or September next year.

Really. Boring. Offseason.[/quote]

So is that a yes, no, or I dunno?

GTripp0012 08-03-2010 03:05 PM

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[quote=12thMan;717033]So is that a yes, no, or I dunno?[/quote]It's an I dunno. There's no franchise tag to use without a CBA. But there's also no free agency to have to protect them from.

In the absence of free agency, McNabb wouldn't be eligible to go to anyone else unless we allowed him to. We'd, essentially, own his rights until traded or retired or relased. Players won't play under a system like that, so that's why the easiest solution is to just postpone the league year until they can figure out what to do with the franchise tag.

They very well might get rid of it in a bargaining chip, but he's our quarterback. We don't need a franchise tag. If we want him, and pay him like we want him, he will stay.

12thMan 08-03-2010 03:10 PM

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Did one of you guys just call in to The Fan?

Lavar and Dukes are smoking crack today!

dmek25 08-03-2010 03:43 PM

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there might not be a "franchise tag" with no CBA. then the skins would be in trouble. they have to get this done, because the price just went up

Monkeydad 08-03-2010 03:44 PM

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[quote=tryfuhl;717029]some guy called into the fan earlier all pissed and calling McNabb a dickhead and everything, was kind of funny[/quote]

Did he also try to slip in a stealth promotion for a BBQ event?

tryfuhl 08-03-2010 04:10 PM

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[quote=buster;717045]did he also try to slip in a stealth promotion for a bbq event?[/quote]

lol!

mlmdub130 08-03-2010 04:41 PM

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[quote=Redskins_P;717022]No kidding. Lavar and Dukes can't stop talking about it on the radio. They're asking fans to call in and voice their "concern". Ridiculous. Earlier on the Mike Wise show they dedicated the entire f-ing show to Colt Brennan.

[B]Its really sad how they blow everything out of porportion[/B].[/quote]



it is their job as part of the media to speculate and come up with what if's, the idoits who call in thinking it's a done deal are the real dumbasses

and is one hour really enough for all that colt has given us???

Dirtbag59 08-03-2010 05:01 PM

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[IMG]http://www.funeshirts.com/cpimages/designs/tnails/pay_this_man.jpg[/IMG]

Or else....
[IMG]http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o99/milrenkb/lebron-james-decision.jpg[/IMG]

skinsfan_nn 08-03-2010 05:17 PM

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Patience grasshoppers...

Dirtbag59 08-03-2010 06:35 PM

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"They were 3-13 the year before they drafted me," McNabb told the Philadelphia Daily News. "The next year, we went 5-11 and then the next year we went 10-6. After that, we were winning 10, 11 games almost every year and going to the playoffs. Not only did we get spoiled as players, but the organization and the fans got spoiled, because that's what they were seeing every year."

McNabb says there's a very different attitude in Washington.

"You come here [to the Redskins], it's like, will we win more than four games? Will we make it to the playoffs? That's the thing that excites me because it's the [same kind of] challenge [as 1999]. That's the drive to lead this team to the playoffs."

McNabb also said that although he was sincere when he apologized on a Philadelphia radio station for leaving town without ever winning a Super Bowl, he also doesn't think players should be judged by whether they have a Super Bowl ring.

"Dan Marino never won a Super Bowl," McNabb said. "Same with Fran Tarkenton. Are their careers failures? Not at all. I would love to be like Dan Marino.""They were 3-13 the year before they drafted me," McNabb told the Philadelphia Daily News. "The next year, we went 5-11 and then the next year we went 10-6. After that, we were winning 10, 11 games almost every year and going to the playoffs. Not only did we get spoiled as players, but the organization and the fans got spoiled, because that's what they were seeing every year."

McNabb says there's a very different attitude in Washington.

"You come here [to the Redskins], it's like, will we win more than four games? Will we make it to the playoffs? That's the thing that excites me because it's the [same kind of] challenge [as 1999]. That's the drive to lead this team to the playoffs."

McNabb also said that although he was sincere when he apologized on a Philadelphia radio station for leaving town without ever winning a Super Bowl, he also doesn't think players should be judged by whether they have a Super Bowl ring.

"Dan Marino never won a Super Bowl," McNabb said. "Same with Fran Tarkenton. Are their careers failures? Not at all. I would love to be like Dan Marino."

mlmdub130 08-03-2010 06:57 PM

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[quote=Dirtbag359;717111]"They were 3-13 the year before they drafted me," McNabb told the Philadelphia Daily News. "The next year, we went 5-11 and then the next year we went 10-6. After that, we were winning 10, 11 games almost every year and going to the playoffs. Not only did we get spoiled as players, but the organization and the fans got spoiled, because that's what they were seeing every year."

McNabb says there's a very different attitude in Washington.

"You come here [to the Redskins], it's like, will we win more than four games? Will we make it to the playoffs? That's the thing that excites me because it's the [same kind of] challenge [as 1999]. That's the drive to lead this team to the playoffs."

McNabb also said that although he was sincere when he apologized on a Philadelphia radio station for leaving town without ever winning a Super Bowl, he also doesn't think players should be judged by whether they have a Super Bowl ring.

"Dan Marino never won a Super Bowl," McNabb said. "Same with Fran Tarkenton. Are their careers failures? Not at all. I would love to be like Dan Marino.""They were 3-13 the year before they drafted me," McNabb told the Philadelphia Daily News. "The next year, we went 5-11 and then the next year we went 10-6. After that, we were winning 10, 11 games almost every year and going to the playoffs. Not only did we get spoiled as players, but the organization and the fans got spoiled, because that's what they were seeing every year."

McNabb says there's a very different attitude in Washington.

"You come here [to the Redskins], it's like, will we win more than four games? Will we make it to the playoffs? That's the thing that excites me because it's the [same kind of] challenge [as 1999]. That's the drive to lead this team to the playoffs."

McNabb also said that although he was sincere when he apologized on a Philadelphia radio station for leaving town without ever winning a Super Bowl, he also doesn't think players should be judged by whether they have a Super Bowl ring.

"Dan Marino never won a Super Bowl," McNabb said. "Same with Fran Tarkenton. Are their careers failures? Not at all. I would love to be like Dan Marino."[/quote]


just incase someone missed it the first or second time :silly:

tryfuhl 08-03-2010 07:31 PM

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Lol!

NYCskinfan82 08-03-2010 08:19 PM

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LOL 2 times

artmonkforhallofamein07 08-03-2010 08:33 PM

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Laughed out load X 3.. I am on the board with my phone and i thought for some reason it had reloaded the page!!

Glad I am not crazy and my phone is working properly.

skinsfaninok 08-03-2010 08:39 PM

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Lmao

Dirtbag59 08-03-2010 08:54 PM

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Well at least everyone read it.

GusFrerotte 08-03-2010 09:18 PM

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They guy isn't old like Favre, but he isn't a spring chicken either. This guy is probably going to be a boom for us, but still can end up being overrated. I don't think he is ever going to be a bust, but there is a small chance he isnt the "savior" we are looking for at QB either.

artmonkforhallofamein07 08-03-2010 09:40 PM

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[quote=Dirtbag359;717136]Well at least everyone read it.[/quote]


Thank you for posting the piece. Was this out of the Washington Post?

tryfuhl 08-03-2010 09:43 PM

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[quote=GusFrerotte;717144]They guy isn't old like Favre, but he isn't a spring chicken either. This guy is probably going to be a boom for us, but still can end up being overrated. I don't think he is ever going to be a bust, but there is a small chance he isnt the "savior" we are looking for at QB either.[/quote]
fully agree

Dirtbag59 08-03-2010 10:11 PM

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[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;717148]Thank you for posting the piece. Was this out of the Washington Post?[/quote]

Technically it's from a Philly paper. But I found it reposted on PFT.

Monkeydad 08-04-2010 09:33 AM

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[quote=Dirtbag359;717160]Technically it's from a Philly paper. But I found it reposted on PFT.[/quote]


Two great sources you have there. :D

GMScud 08-04-2010 12:32 PM

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[quote=GTripp0012;717035]It's an I dunno. There's no franchise tag to use without a CBA. But there's also no free agency to have to protect them from.

In the absence of free agency, McNabb wouldn't be eligible to go to anyone else unless we allowed him to. We'd, essentially, own his rights until traded or retired or relased. Players won't play under a system like that, so that's why the easiest solution is to just postpone the league year until they can figure out what to do with the franchise tag.

They very well might get rid of it in a bargaining chip, but he's our quarterback. We don't need a franchise tag. [B]If we want him, and pay him like we want him, he will stay.[/B][/quote]

I wouldn't be so sure. He loves Brad Childress, and I think he would have chosen Minny over DC any day of the week, Shanahan or not. That Vikings team is WAY better than our Redskins.

If the Vikings are Favre-less after this season, I would expect McNabb to head north. Why wouldn't he? I'd take that team over our current version of the Redskins any day.

GTripp0012 08-04-2010 12:44 PM

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[quote=GMScud;717352]I wouldn't be so sure. He loves Brad Childress, and I think he would have chosen Minny over DC any day of the week, Shanahan or not. That Vikings team is WAY better than our Redskins.

If the Vikings are Favre-less after this season, I would expect McNabb to head north. Why wouldn't he? I'd take that team over our current version of the Redskins any day.[/quote]Well, I think a lot of things need to happen for us to want him and him to want us. He's going to have to win early, and stay healthy, and convince BA that it's money well spent. And if he's having fun here, and things are working out, I can assure you that he'd much rather beat up on Philly for three seasons than go to Minnesota and play the role of Brad Childress futility watchdog.

But yeah, if things go the other way this season, and we underachieve, we probably won't show him the contractual love he's looking for, and he's got a fairly acceptable plan B elsewhere if he hits the market.

The fact that we haven't given him a Delhomme-type extension ($20 mil guaranteed) yet is slowly but surely placing my faith back in the front office. If he earns it on the field, I say: pay him.

Dirtbag59 08-04-2010 02:25 PM

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[quote=GMScud;717352]I wouldn't be so sure. He loves Brad Childress, and I think he would have chosen Minny over DC any day of the week, Shanahan or not. That Vikings team is WAY better than our Redskins.

If the Vikings are Favre-less after this season, I would expect McNabb to head north. Why wouldn't he? I'd take that team over our current version of the Redskins any day.[/quote]

McNabb is not Lebron. As much as he wants to win he's still a team first guy. We have done a great job in surrounding him with a quality cast in such a short period of time. Maybe not as good as Minnesota but with another year or two it very well could be. McNabb loves it here and the chance to beat the Eagles twice a year is something he's going to relish.

And as much as he likes Childress, McNabb knows that the Redskins have a better coaching staff and offensive system with Mike and Kyle and a lot of times the quality of the coaching staff is enough to overcome personel problems. Anyway just wait for the Brady and Manning deals to get completed. Thats what the Skins and McNabb are waiting on.


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