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[quote=mredskins;705460]I be happy to bet you that the Lakers will not win 3 straight in Boston. This series will go seven games, not saying the Celtics are going to win it but to think last nights performance sealed the deal for the Lakers is foolish.


Let me also point again Kobe didn't show up in crunch time. You can thank Fischer for last nights win.[/quote]

That's why it's so awesome to have 2 super clutch players in Bryant and Fisher. I think LA wins game 4, Boston wins game 5, and then LA wins game 6 at home.

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[quote=skinsfanthru&thru;705473]That's why it's so awesome to have 2 super clutch players in Bryant and Fisher. I think LA wins game 4, Boston wins game 5, and then LA wins game 6 at home.[/quote]


Yeah becasue Fisher is super clutch :doh:, maybe in 1986 but other then last night he is a liability due to his age.

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The match-up, or rather mismatch is Gasol v. Garnett. Gasol is really coming into his own with those short jumpers from the perimeter.

Pierce and Allen are too streaky for Rondo to make that much of a difference. And we may have seen the best from Garnett last night.

The Lakers, as hard as they've played the last three games, are still shooting horribly from the arc. And I think Kobe was like 10-29 last night? No way those two things continue, at some point someone on the Lakers will have a Ray Allenesque game and put the Cs out of their misery. Speaking of Allen, shame on you dude! You suck, but I ain't complaining.

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[quote=mredskins;705478]Yeah becasue Fisher is super clutch :doh:, maybe in 1986 but other then last night he is a liability due to his age.[/quote]

Oh I guess his clutch 3pts in last years finals vs the Magic were a figment of my imagination :rolleyes:. People have been talking about Disher & the whole age thing all playoffs, but he's outlasted and at times outplayed players like Westbrook, D. Williams, Nash, and now Allen(who's only one year younger than Fisher). I'll take "old washed up" Derek Fisher any day and keep adding on the championships thank you very much.

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[quote=skinsfanthru&thru;705556]Oh I guess his clutch 3pts in last years finals vs the Magic were a figment of my imagination :rolleyes:. People have been talking about Disher & the whole age thing all playoffs, but he's outlasted and at times outplayed players like Westbrook, D. Williams, Nash, and now Allen(who's only one year younger than Fisher). I'll take "old washed up" Derek Fisher any day and keep adding on the championships thank you very much.[/quote]


Go Celtics!!!

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We've got a good old-fashioned slobber-knocker. Go Shrek & Donkey!

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[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;705882]We've got a good old-fashioned slobber-knocker. [B] Go Shrek & Donkey![/B][/quote]


I love that nickname for them!

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I'm not worried and I still see us winning in 6. Last night just like game 2 required a freak way above average game from someone on the Celtics to win and this time it was two bench players in Robinson and Davis. In game 4 those 2 combined for only 5 pts less than they did the 3 previous games combined, so I wouldn't bank on that happening again anytime soon. Only having Bynum in last nights game for 12 minutes had a huge impact on 2nd chance pts for the Celtics and these next 2 days will be helpful in getting him some extra rest.

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[quote=skinsfanthru&thru;705916]I'm not worried and I still see us winning in 6. Last night just like game 2 required a freak way above average game from someone on the Celtics to win and this time it was two bench players in Robinson and Davis. In game 4 those 2 combined for only 5 pts less than they did the 3 previous games combined, so I wouldn't bank on that happening again anytime soon. [B]Only having Bynum in last nights game for 12 minutes had a huge impact on 2nd chance pts for the Celtics and these next 2 days will be helpful in getting him some extra rest[/B].[/quote]


you hope, hahhahahahaha!!!!!!

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[quote=skinsfanthru&thru;705916]I'm not worried and I still see us winning in 6. Last night just like game 2 required a freak way above average game from someone on the Celtics to win and this time it was two bench players in Robinson and Davis. In game 4 those 2 combined for only 5 pts less than they did the 3 previous games combined, so I wouldn't bank on that happening again anytime soon. Only having Bynum in last nights game for 12 minutes had a huge impact on 2nd chance pts for the Celtics and these next 2 days will be helpful in getting him some extra rest.[/quote]If Bynum can't go, huge problem for LA. Ray Allen isn't going to continue to go "0 for", as he has in games 3 & 4 from 3pt. land, for the rest of the series. Pierce and Rondo have been relatively quiet. The Celtics have been successful in limiting Kobe's shooting % to around 41%. If you're not worried, you should be.

Doesn't have any bearing on this series but just thought I'd throw out a stat from the 2008 Finals, which I enjoyed greatly, "The 39-point differential in Game 6 was the largest in a clinching game in NBA Finals history and the second largest margin overall for any Finals game." :D

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[url=http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AvjHNaU9aB0s.t3w_dzxXJy8vLYF?slug=mc-bynumlakers061210Bynum's]Bynum says he'll play in Game 5[/url]
If he wasn't able to come back that'd be huge as through Game 3 he'd been close to the equivilant of Perkins and Davis combined for the Celtics despite playing 10-15 minutes less a game than the 2 of them. He just adds a huge element to the Laker's interior defense that can't be ignored.
(Bynum=13.3ppg/7.3reb/2.7blocks vs Perkins&Davis= 16ppg/11reb/1block)

The low pt totals for Pierce, Allen, and Rondo has atleast a little to do with the fact a good portion of their shots are being contested/blocked by either Gasol/Bynum or Bryant/Artest/Fisher. I mean the Lakers are averaging almost 8 blocked shots a game!! Kobe's still averaging 28.3ppg without any really low games except game 2 where he was in foul trouble the whole game and still got 21. So anyone who follows the NBA should have a feeling we might be in store for seeing a 40pt+ kind of game from him soon. And I'm sorry "holding" a player that's a 95% jump shooter to 41% shooting is not what I'd really call successful defense as that's only 4.5% less than his season average(that's about one less made shot a game for every 20 shots taken).

So as I said I'm not worried. I expected each game to be a battle because there's a reason each team made it to the finals, but I haven't seen anything in this series to make me believe the Lakers aren't the better team in this match up when all is said and done.

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[quote=skinsfanthru&thru;706099]And I'm sorry "holding" a player that's a 95% jump shooter to 41% shooting is not what I'd really call successful defense as that's only 4.5% less than his season average(that's about one less made shot a game for every 20 shots taken).[/quote]When that same player had been shooting over 50% in the last two series it is successful defense.

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Cs survive the Kobe explosion.....GO CELTICS !!!!!!!

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[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;706200]Cs survive the Kobe explosion.....GO CELTICS !!!!!!![/quote]

I don't really care for either team, but I don't need to see Kobe and Phil win anything else, so I'm pulling for Boston. Plus Rondo is quickly becoming one of my favorite players in the game. He's so nasty. Aside from Chris Paul (coming off of serious knee surgery), I'm not sure there's any point guard in the league I'd take over him.

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[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;706200]Cs survive the Kobe explosion.....GO CELTICS !!!!!!![/quote]


Oh yeah! Great game tonight, been exciting series. Hats off to Kobe! What a game in the 3rd quarter, my dad and me where like is he ever going to miss?

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Celtics defense stepped it up a notch and Lakers defense was no where to be seen. Next 2 r at home, but everyone not named Bryant in a Lakers jersey has to stop standing around hoping Kobe will save the day and hit atleast a few shots. But that's a point Jackson is probably telling the team that despite a porous defense and no one other than Kobe scoring more than 12 points, they only lost by 6.

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[quote=skinsfanthru&thru;706205]Celtics defense stepped it up a notch and Lakers defense was no where to be seen. Next 2 r at home, but everyone not named Bryant in a Lakers jersey has to stop standing around hoping Kobe will save the day and hit atleast a few shots. But that's a point Jackson is probably telling the team that despite a porous defense and no one other than Kobe scoring more than 12 points, [B]they only lost by 6[/B].[/quote]


[I]Ask any racer. Any real racer. It don't matter if you win by an inch or a mile. Winning's winning.[/I] [B]-Dom[/B]

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In real sports involving teams with point contribution from individuals, it does matter. I mean, shit we talk about it all the time in relation to the skins the last couple years haha.

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[quote=skinsfanthru&thru;706227]In real sports involving teams with point contribution from individuals, it does matter. I mean, shit we talk about it all the time in relation to the skins the last couple years haha.[/quote]


Ok I hear you the Celtics will keep piling up the six point wins and the Lakers can feel good that they only lost by 6.


What does the NBA Championship trophy "that we only lost by six" look like? I have never seen it.

You keep using historically facts or comments like we only lost by 6 to keep making yourself believe the Lakers are going to win it but the Celtics just keep rolling.

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[quote=mredskins;706230]Ok I hear you the Celtics will keep piling up the six point wins and the Lakers can feel good that they only lost by 6.


What does the NBA Championship trophy "that we only lost by six" look like? I have never seen it.

You keep using historically facts or comments like we only lost by 6 to keep making yourself believe the Lakers are going to win it but the Celtics just keep rolling.[/quote]

This coming from the guy who jumped off his own teams bandwagon after game 1 haha. You know what, I will still keep believing my team can rebound from 2 tough loses on the road involving poor performances by everyone not named Bryant and use home court to win the series, because that's what real fans do.

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If the Cs are able to close things out, one word from Kobe's presser after Game 5 can be used to sum up why the Cs won....."them".

The Cs are a true team that have completely bought in, the Lakers are about Phil & Kobe and their legacies, not team.

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[quote=skinsfanthru&thru;706235]This coming from the guy who jumped off his own teams bandwagon after game 1 haha. You know what, I will still keep believing my team can rebound from 2 tough loses on the road involving poor performances by everyone not named Bryant and use home court to win the series, [B]because that's what real fans do[/B].[/quote]


I didn't jump off the wagon I simply predicted the Lakers to win but still cheered for the C's.

I have been watching the C's for a long long time and I love them. I even have a Reggie Lewis rookie card still in my wallet to remember one of my favorite players.

You just seem very bitter and not willing to give the C's any credit when they win. I will give the Lakers all the credit in the world if they win, I bet if the C's win you will just come back with some whinny should been; could been scenario that in your mind doesn't justify the C's winning.

If being delusional is what real fans do you are on the right board! =)

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[quote=skinsfanthru&thru;706235]This coming from the guy who jumped off his own teams bandwagon after game 1 haha. You know what, I will still keep believing my team can rebound from 2 tough loses on the road involving poor performances by everyone not named Bryant and use home court to win the series, because that's what real fans do.[/quote]


BTW- Ron Artest is killing you guys! I kill him if he played for the Celtics. what a bone head.

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[quote=mredskins;706247]I didn't jump off the wagon I simply predicted the Lakers to win but still cheered for the C's.

I have been watching the C's for a long long time and I love them. I even have a Reggie Lewis rookie card still in my wallet to remember one of my favorite players.

You just seem very bitter and not willing to give the C's any credit when they win. I will give the Lakers all the credit in the world if they win, I bet if the C's win you will just come back with some whinny should been; could been scenario that in your mind doesn't justify the C's winning.

If being delusional is what real fans do you are on the right board! =)[/quote]

I hate the Celtics more than any other NBA team, with a close second being San Antonio, so of course I'm not gonna say positive things about them just like I don't say anything positive about the Eagles or Cowboys. That just goes against every fiber of my being. And you're right I would be bitter if we do wind up losing this series because that's how it's supposed to be if the team you hate the most wins the championship especially if it's over your favorite team. I see my comments as being a realist and I would expect to hear the same thing if the shoe was on the other foot, because we're talking about a sport where a few plays or an extra source of contribution can completely change the outcome as evident by all four of the Celtics main players contributing in the same game for the first time in the series vs just one guy on the other team. Of course I'm going to try and look at how a few plays in last night's game like that airball call or the Celtics getting that inbounds pass & layup, can change or add momentum to each team because I firmly believe both teams had a chance to get the win last night in that 4th quarter. More plays were made by the Celtics and thus they won, and I believe at home the Lakers can bounce back and get those same kind of plays in their favor.

Oh and Artest is pretty much our Tony Allen. Both are in for strictly defense, an occasional rebound, and both have no business shooting the ball more than 8 feet from the hoop. Artest's bad shots are magnified because he's a starter and on the court more than Allen so he's more likely to take more shots unfortunately.

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Game 7 here we come!!

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Odds are stacked against the Celtics.

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[quote=skinsfanthru&thru;706679]Game 7 here we come!![/quote]


Yup nice win for the Lakers. It is going to be really tough for the C's to win Thursday especially without Perk. I pray at least it is well fought and not a goose egg like last night.

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This is one of the ugliest games I've ever watched and it's only fitting for these 2 teams to be scratching and clawing for each point to determine the championship though.

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no joke.. how does boston blow a 13 point lead?

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wow had that steal stayed in..

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Happy to see the Lakers pull this off

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congrats to the Lakers and their fans....=(

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good game but the Lakers stole that one.

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Wooooooo!! Like I said earlier such an ugly game, but when Kobe needed his teammates to carry him, they responded. Next year is the quest for a 3peat!

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[quote=skinsfanthru&thru;707235]Wooooooo!! Like I said earlier such an ugly game, but when Kobe needed his teammates to carry him, they responded. Next year is the quest for a 3peat![/quote]


That will be exciting for the rest of the NBA. Can just one, one good team come out of the west to challenge the Lakers.

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Parade here in l.a. Baby!

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[quote=mredskins;707238]That will be exciting for the rest of the NBA. Can just one, one good team come out of the west to challenge the Lakers.[/quote]

If they can get a good big man to watch the lane, the Thunder showed they could definitely be a contender in the foreseeable future.

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Ron Artest = MVP. :D


Definitely not Kobe's 6-24 shooting performance.