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[quote=SmootSmack;903788]I watched it...hence my Zou Bisou Bisou title.

It was definitely a "let's get reacquainted" episode. Still it was pretty awesome. Loved when Roger Sterling went to Staten Island at 6am

Need my Betty fix too.[/quote]

When Megan went out on the deck after Don gave her the "talk" about surprise parties. Did part of you think she was going to jump? I did.

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[quote=mredskins;903790]When Megan went out on the deck after Don gave her the "talk" about surprise parties. Did part of you think she was going to jump? I did.[/quote]

Yeah for a second I thought so.

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Kiss kiss kiss etc.

My God, how soft they are!

Kiss kiss kiss etc.

The sound of kisses!

In the bushes, under the August sky

Lovers glide stealthily

Like birds, they have dates

Everywhere you hear:

Kiss kiss kiss etc.

My God, how soft they are!

But tell me, do you know

What that means, between us,

What does “zou bisou” mean?

It means, I confess to you,

But yes, I love only you!

Kiss kiss kiss etc.

My God, how soft it is!

But no need for bushes in the month of August

When you kiss me softly on the neck!

It’s funny, you see, I confess,

I feel it everywhere

Kiss kiss kiss etc.

My God, how soft it is!

Kiss kiss kiss etc.

Little kisses

Kiss kiss kiss

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Yeah...still doesn't compare to Megan's performance.

I liked how you can see the definite change (set wise) to the late 60s, especially in Don's new apartment

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[quote=mredskins;903790]When Megan went out on the deck after Don gave her the "talk" about surprise parties. Did part of you think she was going to jump? I did.[/quote]I completely thought that was going to happen!

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Zubi Zubi Zu..

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School me on why I should be watching this show. Sounds a bit soap opera-ish the way you guys talk about it, lol. I've had it on my Netflix queue for a while now, just haven't pulled the trigger.

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Well, on an episode per episode basis not much seemingly happens but then when you look back over several episodes you realize a lot happens.

The way the episodes tend to sometimes end suddenly is part of what I like about it. The problems aren't nicely wrapped up in a bow at the end of the episodes.

The characters are almost all compelling, the protagonist "Don Draper" has arguably as many, if not more flaws, than anyone else. He's like Breaking Bad's Walt in many ways. The writing flows smoothly and there aren't many, if any, wasted dialogues.

I don't know what show to compare it to, but I highly highly recommend it.

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[url=http://blogs.thepoconos.com/pop-rox/2012/03/15/10-reasons-why-you-should-watch-mad-men/]10 Reasons Why You Should Watch Mad Men[/url]

[url=http://www.cracked.com/blog/why-you-should-be-watching-mad-men/]Why You Are An Idiot for Not Watching 'Mad Men' | Cracked.com[/url]

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In terms of TV series: Breaking Bad, The Wire, Mad Men...and not necessarily in that order.

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[quote=Mattyk;903817]School me on why I should be watching this show. Sounds a bit soap opera-ish the way you guys talk about it, lol. I've had it on my Netflix queue for a while now, just haven't pulled the trigger.[/quote]

I think everyone who watches it can relate to someone in the show. Like for me I can see some of myself in Peter, he is torn between city "life" and now being a full time family man. I have fully embraced the ladder now but not so along ago it was a big adjustment for me and frankly anyone who just had their first child. Like in last night's episode his wife said when they were visiting Don in the city "god it is so loud here" and he mumbled "i know" like he missed it. Just little things like that draw you in.

I guess in away it is a soap opera but they seem to always do something that just blows your mind and it come out of no where.

I also think it brings to light just how powerful the AD world can be and this documents when it really started picking up steam.

My parents enjoy it a lot and I think they get a lot of nostalgia out of it. I like it to see them living in such a UN-political correct world.

It be a good summer program for you watch when nothing else is on and by the time you catch up this season will be on DVD.

Plus it is a great "wifey" show, to watch together. Actually some of the scenes are pretty hot and you may find yourselves pausing it for a "timeout". :cool-smil

Another great line from last night was during Don's "birthday gift". When Roger says to his young wife "why don't you dance like that for me" and she responded "why don't you look like him" (meaning Don). that made me laugh out loud.

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[quote=12thMan;903840]In terms of TV series: Breaking Bad, The Wire, Mad Men...and not necessarily in that order.[/quote]

The Wire is the one I struggle with. Maybe that will be my summer series.


Homeland is pretty high on my list too but they only have had one season so they need a few more before I can put them in this company.

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Here's my list (in order). I've seen every episode of these shows (except BB):

1. The Wire
2. Lost
3. Sopranos
4. 24
5. Entourage
6. Mad Men
7. Breaking Bad (stopped in season 2)

As for Mad Men I still watch but defintely not my favorite. A little too girly for me. But Don Draper and Roger Sterling are two of my favorite characters ever, they make the whole show worthwhile.

Matty my recommendation would be to save this show to watch with your wife. In that context you won't be disappointed.

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[quote=CrazyCanuck;903935]Here's my list (in order). I've seen every episode of these shows (except BB):

1. The Wire
2. Lost
3. Sopranos
4. 24
5. Entourage
6. Mad Men
7. Breaking Bad (stopped in season 2)

As for Mad Men I still watch but defintely not my favorite. A little too girly for me. But Don Draper and Roger Sterling are two of my favorite characters ever, they make the whole show worthwhile.

Matty my recommendation would be to save this show to watch with your wife. In that context you won't be disappointed.[/quote]

Why did you stop BB?

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[quote=mredskins;903865]The Wire is the one I struggle with. Maybe that will be my summer series.


Homeland is pretty high on my list too but they only have had one season so they need a few more before I can put them in this company.[/quote]

The Wire probably the best written TV series ever. Yes, ever.

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[quote=Mattyk;903941]Why did you stop BB?[/quote]

I don't know, didn't really do it for me. Didn't love many of the characters and it was a little too depressing for me.

[QUOTE=CrazyCanuck;903984]I don't know, didn't really do it for me. Didn't love many of the characters and it was a little too depressing for me.[/QUOTE]

Season two is probably the slowest season

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It sounds like a couple of you guys have a thing for Betty? Does her attraction wane at all for you when considering this:

[url=http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/mad-men-star-january-jones-eats-placenta-maintain-energy-set-article-1.1050641?localLinksEnabled=false#commentpostform]‘Mad Men’ star January Jones eats her own placenta to maintain energy on set - NY Daily News[/url]

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I'm fascinated by Betty more so by the fact that in everything else I've seen January Jones in (which isn't much) she's sooooo soooo bad, like "worst actress in Hollywood" bad. Yet somehow on Mad Men she's great.

I mean if we're just talking about eye candy..give me Jane (Peyton List)

Meanwhile, kind of odd to see Larisa Oleynik all grown up and on Mad Men

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[quote=mlmpetert;904256]It sounds like a couple of you guys have a thing for Betty? Does her attraction wane at all for you when considering this:

[URL="http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/mad-men-star-january-jones-eats-placenta-maintain-energy-set-article-1.1050641?localLinksEnabled=false#commentpostform"]‘Mad Men’ star January Jones eats her own placenta Â*to maintain energy on setÂ* - NY Daily News[/URL][/quote]

I honestly don't like January Jones, but i love her as Betty Draper. If that makes sense.

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I hear you guys. Liking a character is entirely different.

I just hope you dont think about her eating her own placenta when in character. Well take a second to imagine someone doing that in the rawest form, then apply it to her, but dont permanently attach that to her and her Betty role whatever you do.... That might be bad if you do. Just forget I brought this whole placenta eating thing up…..

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[quote=mlmpetert;904266]I hear you guys. Liking a character is entirely different.

I just hope you dont think about her eating her own placenta when in character. Well take a second to imagine someone doing that in the rawest form, then apply it to her, but dont permanently attach that to her and her Betty role whatever you do.... That might be bad if you do. Just forget I brought this whole placenta eating thing up…..[/quote]

You realize that she is eating it in pill form right?

Basically it probably disgust/offend more people to watch me eat a med rare steak then watch her pop a pill.

She probably picks her nose and eats it too; she is still easy on the eyes.

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[quote=SmootSmack;904258]I'm fascinated by Betty more so by the fact that in everything else I've seen January Jones in (which isn't much) she's sooooo soooo bad, like "worst actress in Hollywood" bad. Yet somehow on Mad Men she's great.[/quote]

I agree with this. I saw her on SNL and couldn't believe what a bad actress she was. Barkley is 100 times better.

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[quote=CrazyCanuck;903984]I don't know, didn't really do it for me. Didn't love many of the characters and it was a little too depressing for me.[/quote]

I can see that, it's dark and all of the characters are significantly flawed. It's worth sticking it out IMO, it just gets better each season.

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* minor spoiler

"You only get to watch!"

This scene really did it for me haha...

But I've been down with Trudy (aka Annie from Community) from day 1. Pete is such a smarmy dude- he doesn't deserve her!

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Any thoughts on the season so far? Last episode was peculiar with the Richard Speck backdrop

[QUOTE=SmootSmack;908271]Any thoughts on the season so far? Last episode was peculiar with the Richard Speck backdrop[/QUOTE]

I am assuming the strangle scene was a dream.

Also what did the army doctor do to her before they married? I cant remember

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[quote=mredskins;908310]I am assuming the strangle scene was a dream.

Also what did the army doctor do to her before they married? I cant remember[/quote]

Raped her on the floor of their old office...

[QUOTE=Redskins8588;908315]Raped her on the floor of their old office...[/QUOTE]

I am drawing a blank on that one.

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25 12 [B]"The Mountain King" [/B] Alan Taylor Matthew Weiner & Robin Veith October 19, 2008 1.40[2]
Don renews his acquaintance with his old friend Anna, the widow of the man whose identity Don stole years before. Pete's family problems affect Sterling Cooper's account with Clearasil. [B][U]Joan introduces her fiancé Greg to the employees of Sterling Cooper, but while inside Don's office, Greg forces her to the floor and rapes her. [/U][/B]Plans are finalized to bring about Sterling Cooper's merger with Putnam, Powell & Lowe.

Season 2 episode 12

[QUOTE=Redskins8588;908326]25 12 [B]"The Mountain King" [/B] Alan Taylor Matthew Weiner & Robin Veith October 19, 2008 1.40[2]
Don renews his acquaintance with his old friend Anna, the widow of the man whose identity Don stole years before. Pete's family problems affect Sterling Cooper's account with Clearasil. [B][U]Joan introduces her fiancé Greg to the employees of Sterling Cooper, but while inside Don's office, Greg forces her to the floor and rapes her. [/U][/B]Plans are finalized to bring about Sterling Cooper's merger with Putnam, Powell & Lowe.

Season 2 episode 12[/QUOTE]

Jesus season two my brain cant think back that far

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I'm pretty impressed at how the show manages to portray the changing times each season, while weaving in character arcs that reflect such shifts (this season included).

For example, we're starting to see a response to years of unfair gender roles. Although Peggy is definitely the firm's pioneering female, the last episode's conclusion really stamped Joan as the ribbon cutter. While Betty left Dom earlier, she did so knowing her position was secure with her current husband (and Dom would still provide a support system for their kids). Joan kicking her husband out, while raising a newborn, is a pretty significant moment within the show's generational subtext.

And how about Peggy's awkward purse moment? That scene was brilliant.

* Thank goodness Dom was only dreaming... I was close to seeing a shark swim out of nowhere.

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[quote=itvnetop;908346]I'm pretty impressed at how the show manages to portray the changing times each season, while weaving in character arcs that reflect such shifts (this season included).

For example, we're starting to see a response to years of unfair gender roles. Although Peggy is definitely the firm's pioneering female, the last episode's conclusion really stamped Joan as the ribbon cutter. While Betty left Dom earlier, she did so knowing her position was secure with her current husband (and Dom would still provide a support system for their kids). Joan kicking her husband out, while raising a newborn, is a pretty significant moment within the show's generational subtext.

And how about Peggy's awkward purse moment? That scene was brilliant.

* Thank goodness Dom was only dreaming... I was close to seeing a shark swim out of nowhere.[/quote]

Keen observation re: Joan

I definitely agree about the purse moment.

I'm concurrently watching season 1 on NetFlix, amazing to sort of watch how Pete and Don's characters outside the office have switched

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I thought the purse thing was over blown. Honestly my wife takes her purse to the bedroom every night. I don't think anyone would have been offend in real life if that had happen.

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[quote=mredskins;908380]I thought the purse thing was over blown. Honestly my wife takes her purse to the bedroom every night. I don't think anyone would have been offend in real life if that had happen.[/quote]

I agree about that, especially considering she had already mentioned that she had "a lot more money today," or something along those lines. I don't know that it necessarily even was a race thing, but I know that's how resonated.

I mean, I leave my wallet on a table near my car keys 90% of the time, but if I have people coming over, regardless of how well I know them, I'm not going to leave it sitting there, it'll either go into my pocket or into my bed room.

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[quote=itvnetop;908346]I'm pretty impressed at how the show manages to portray the changing times each season, while weaving in character arcs that reflect such shifts (this season included).

For example, we're starting to see a response to years of unfair gender roles. Although Peggy is definitely the firm's pioneering female, the last episode's conclusion really stamped Joan as the ribbon cutter. While Betty left Dom earlier, she did so knowing her position was secure with her current husband (and Dom would still provide a support system for their kids). Joan kicking her husband out, while raising a newborn, is a pretty significant moment within the show's generational subtext.

And how about Peggy's awkward purse moment? That scene was brilliant.

* Thank goodness Dom was only dreaming... I was close to seeing a shark swim out of nowhere.[/quote]

My early season prediction: Joan reveals baby is actually Roger's. Roger dumps current wife for Joan. (or vice versa - but I think Joan confronts Roger first).

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[quote=jdlea;908382]I agree about that, especially considering she had already mentioned that she had "a lot more money today," or something along those lines. I don't know that it necessarily even was a race thing, but I know that's how resonated.

I mean, I leave my wallet on a table near my car keys 90% of the time, but if I have people coming over, regardless of how well I know them, I'm not going to leave it sitting there, it'll either go into my pocket or into my bed room.[/quote]


I know it was like I am going to bed let me gather up my stuff. The show made it seem like Rosa Parks was trying to move to the front of the bus.

If a trust/race issue was what they were trying to create they should have made it something a little more extreme; like Peggy asking her to sleep on the floor becasue she didn't want the sofa to get dirty; that be insulting enough to make the girl leave.

They are trying to make us beleive that the black girl was so offended by the purse incident that she was willing to leave a safe place to sleep for the night and go out in a strange neighborhood in NYC during a race riot. Pleaseeeeee....

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Let me add that Mad Men has been doing a good job with setting the tone/style on certain social changes depending on the decade they are in during a season. It is quiet obvious they are trying to portray the racial indifference in the early 70's this season. So far they have failed because they are using 2012 PC to create it. During that era of time it be nothing for a Roger or someone like that to drop the N word in causal conversation.

Not to beat the purse issue to death but do you really think a young black lady growing up in the early 70's would have been that offended by what Peggy did? I am sure she had seen and been treated much worst.

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[quote=mredskins;908393]Let me add that Mad Men has been doing a good job with setting the tone/style on certain social changes depending on the decade they are in during a season. It is quiet obvious they are trying to portray the racial indifference in the early 70's this season. So far they have failed because they are using 2012 PC to create it. During that era of time it be nothing for a Roger or someone like that to drop the N word in causal conversation.

Not to beat the purse issue to death but do you really think a young black lady growing up in the early 70's would have been that offended by what Peggy did? I am sure she had seen and been treated much worst.[/quote]

I don't think she was totally offended... I honestly thought the letter was sincere, albeit a bit more than coincidental in its placement. I felt the awkwardness wasn't so much of "Oh my goodness, you think I am going to steal your money" as much as it serves as an indicator of Peggy's progressiveness.

Throughout its run, Peggy has been the singular female force within the firms' creative department(s). During the episode (especially in the drinking scene), she does her best to relate- "I was once in your position, etc" and "We've got to stick together." The purse scene isn't about how unrealistic Peggy's reaction was, especially considering the money issue. The moment reminds us that the "best" of people aren't as "politically correct" as they espouse.

The scene wasn't suppose to elicit discussion about whether Peggy is a bad person for looking at her purse- she obviously isn't (she lets a relative stranger stay with her for the evening, confides in her, etc). On a micro level, the scene adds a layer to her character- one that leaves room for growth. Thematically, it's consistent with the show's nuances, where people live/think/behave in a constant gray area.

Now if Peggy had actually taken the purse, the scene would have lost its power. Her taking the bottles, following a few seconds of awkwardness, is a perfect moment to cut. While many viewers feel the scene was forced, that's not the point- the morning after is important. She feels shame while reading the letter because her momentary lapse stood contrary to what she'd been representing the entire show.

If viewers ever thought this show had a political slant, I think the writing speaks otherwise... In this particular case, they showed how a seemingly liberated woman fell short of her own standards. An episode or two ago, uber-liberal Harry tells Dawn (paraphrasing), "I get all of you secretaries confused around here." That must have made everyone cringe.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;908386]My early season prediction: Joan reveals baby is actually Roger's. Roger dumps current wife for Joan. (or vice versa - but I think Joan confronts Roger first).[/quote]

Hmmm, I could totally see this happening.