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mredskins 09-20-2010 11:14 AM

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[quote=Buster;736514]That's a lot of failure for 62K miles.[/quote]


Actually 57k my RDX is 62k. To be honest at this point they are being lazy just throwing parts at it until it stops making the noise but hey if Toyota is stroking the check what does it matter.

firstdown 09-20-2010 11:15 AM

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[quote=mredskins;734972][B]update two[/B]

They are going to replace the right side wheel bearing both axle bearings and the differential, will be done Tuesday.[/quote]

Isn't the wheel bearing and the axle bearing the same thing?

mredskins 09-20-2010 11:18 AM

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[quote=cpayne5;736533]150psi is way too high. The compressor will only operate within a given range, and 150 is way above that range (probably should be around 50psi). That's why it's not clicking on. You need to take it to a shop to have it evacuated. Did you just keep filling it???[/quote]


No I never filled it I just put the gauge on it. I am wondering how it got that high?

mredskins 09-20-2010 11:19 AM

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[quote=firstdown;736540]Isn't the wheel bearing and the axle bearing the same thing?[/quote]


no wheel bearing is in/near your tire, the axle bearing is in the center of the axle near the differential.

mredskins 09-20-2010 11:21 AM

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[quote=cpayne5;736533]150psi is way too high. The compressor will only operate within a given range, and 150 is way above that range (probably should be around 50psi). That's why it's not clicking on. You need to take it to a shop to have it evacuated. Did you just keep filling it???[/quote]


I was thinking it won't run if the psi is to low. 150psi is I believe a good number on the high side so I am thinking the composer died on me, thus creating the same pressure on both sides.

cpayne5 09-20-2010 11:27 AM

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[quote=mredskins;736549]I was thinking it won't run if the psi is to low. 150psi is I believe a good number on the high side so I am thinking the composer died on me, thus creating the same pressure on both sides.[/quote]

It shouldn't run if it's too high, either.

mredskins 09-20-2010 11:31 AM

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[quote=cpayne5;736554]It shouldn't run if it's too high, either.[/quote]


Ok, so what is your guess?

I say bad a/c composer.

Monkeydad 09-20-2010 02:11 PM

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There are usually two ports to check on the AC, a high-pressure side and a low-pressure side.

But 150psi is way too high for either. The high pressure side usually reads about 70-80psi and the low side around 35-40psi. The low side of the one you want to check. You're actually not supposed to open the high pressure side.




When it reads way high, it usually means there is a leak in the line. I went through this with my wife's car last year.

But first,[B] did you read the pressure with the car running and AC on its highest setting? [/B]That's the only way to get an accurate reading. If it's reading high, it does not mean there is that much refrigerant in it, that's just an indication of a problem, not the actual pressure.

Test the low pressure side with it running and blowing on high. If it's reading low, add some r134a until the compressor kicks on, should happen just over 30psi.

I am fairly good at car AC repair. Fixed my own before and diagnosed my wife's (was a leaky line and evaporator coil inside the dash...let the pros do that work).

cpayne5 09-20-2010 02:20 PM

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[quote=mredskins;736557]Ok, so what is your guess?

I say bad a/c composer.[/quote]

It could be a bunch of different things. Take it to your mechanic and let him diagnose it.

mredskins 09-20-2010 02:28 PM

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[quote=Buster;736641]There are usually two ports to check on the AC, a high-pressure side and a low-pressure side.

But 150psi is way too high for either. The high pressure side usually reads about 70-80psi and the low side around 35-40psi. The low side of the one you want to check. You're actually not supposed to open the high pressure side.




When it reads way high, it usually means there is a leak in the line. I went through this with my wife's car last year.

But first,[B] did you read the pressure with the car running and AC on its highest setting? [/B]That's the only way to get an accurate reading. If it's reading high, it does not mean there is that much refrigerant in it, that's just an indication of a problem, not the actual pressure.

Test the low pressure side with it running and blowing on high. If it's reading low, add some r134a until the compressor kicks on, should happen just over 30psi.

I am fairly good at car AC repair. Fixed my own before and diagnosed my wife's (was a leaky line and evaporator coil inside the dash...let the pros do that work).[/quote]


Well I read the 150 off a cheap walmart gauge so basically it just means it is high.

If you get a high reading on both sides it is overcharged but how can it be all of sudden overcharge, I have never added anything to it?

Who knows it goes in Wednesday hopefully if my 4Runner is fixed.

mredskins 09-22-2010 12:02 PM

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So my Acura was a bad clutch on the A/C; $850 to repair, yeah me! =(

Monkeydad 09-22-2010 12:11 PM

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Japanese quality.

mredskins 09-22-2010 12:33 PM

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[quote=Buster;737480]Japanese quality.[/quote]


Well I could go back and dig out my old repair bills on my last Grand Cherokee (97) and total up to the point where this Acura is and I willing to bet it was in the neighborhood of $2000 at 3 years and 60K miles, my Acura is at $850.

cpayne5 09-22-2010 05:04 PM

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[quote=mredskins;737484]Well I could go back and dig out my old repair bills on my last Grand Cherokee (97) and total up to the point where this Acura is and I willing to bet it was in the neighborhood of $2000 at 3 years and 60K miles, my Acura is at $850.[/quote]

Don't feed the troll.

firstdown 09-22-2010 05:09 PM

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[quote=mredskins;737484]Well I could go back and dig out my old repair bills on my last Grand Cherokee (97) and total up to the point where this Acura is and I willing to bet it was in the neighborhood of $2000 at 3 years and 60K miles, my Acura is at $850.[/quote]

My wife had a 2000 Jeep Grand Cherokee and it was a POS. Nothing major but just always something breaking. I replaced ever power door lock motor, rear seal, crank sensor, $500 in trans. computer chips, and a few other things. If I had to pay for everything done I would have racked up some bills.

saden1 09-22-2010 05:38 PM

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My brother just bought a 2011 Hyundai Sonata and loves it...says when compared to all the cars he looked at it was the best bang for the $$$. The Japanese auto makers better step up, the Koreans and Americans are gunning for them big time.

cpayne5 09-22-2010 05:45 PM

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[quote=saden1;737657]My brother just bought a Hyundai Sonata and loves it...says when compared to all the cars he looked at it was the best bang for the $$$. The Japanese auto makers better step up, the Koreans and Americans are gunning for them big time.[/quote]

The new Sonata is a nice car. I am particularly impressed with its upcoming 2.0L turbo. It makes 275 horsepower (with nearly identical torque numbers), gets 34mpg, and runs on 87 octane. Those numbers just do not belong in the same sentence, but Hyundai did it. Props to them. If it proves to be reliable over the long run, it will become a legend.

saden1 09-22-2010 05:49 PM

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[quote=cpayne5;737665]The new Sonata is a nice car. I am particularly impressed with its upcoming 2.0L turbo. It makes 275 horsepower (with nearly identical torque numbers), gets 34mpg, and runs on 87 octane. Those numbers just do not belong in the same sentence, but Hyundai did it. Props to them. If it proves to be reliable over the long run, it will become a legend.[/quote]

Yeah, they're doing it big...it's getting great reviews. I was just watching the review video from Edmunds just now...checkout 1:50 min in:

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tryfuhl 09-22-2010 05:57 PM

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[quote=mredskins;736557]Ok, so what is your guess?

I say bad a/c composer.[/quote]

Antonio Cabezon perhaps?

tryfuhl 09-22-2010 05:59 PM

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[quote=cpayne5;737648]Don't feed the troll.[/quote]

you may love jeep but to act like they're a benchmark for quality would be quite ironic

cpayne5 09-22-2010 08:50 PM

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[quote=tryfuhl;737676]you may love jeep but to act like they're a benchmark for quality would be quite ironic[/quote]

Huh? Where did you come up with that assumption???

Anyway, Jeep has put out some very reliable automobiles over the years. The old AMC-designed 2.5 and 4.0 engines were very reliable. There are many YJ, WJ, TJ, and XJs still on the road with several hundred thousand miles on them. Those engines are some of the most bulletproof designs ever produced. They may not be the most efficient or the most powerful, but I would say that they were/are a benchmark for quality when it comes to reliability.

mredskins 09-23-2010 08:16 AM

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[quote=cpayne5;737742]Huh? Where did you come up with that assumption???

Anyway, Jeep has put out some very reliable automobiles over the years. The old AMC-designed 2.5 and 4.0 engines were very reliable. There are many YJ, WJ, TJ, and XJs still on the road with several hundred thousand miles on them. Those engines are some of the most bulletproof designs ever produced. They may not be the most efficient or the most powerful, but I would say that they were/are a benchmark for quality when it comes to reliability.[/quote]

When Chrysler bought Jeep quality went down the drain.

firstdown 09-23-2010 09:29 AM

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[quote=cpayne5;737742]Huh? Where did you come up with that assumption???

Anyway, Jeep has put out some very reliable automobiles over the years. The old AMC-designed 2.5 and 4.0 engines were very reliable. There are many YJ, WJ, TJ, and XJs still on the road with several hundred thousand miles on them. [B]Those engines are some of the most bulletproof designs ever produced.[/B] They may not be the most efficient or the most powerful, but I would say that they were/are a benchmark for quality when it comes to reliability.[/quote]

Thats fine but when everything else fall a part around the engine who cares how great it is.

saden1 09-23-2010 10:38 AM

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[quote=firstdown;737825]Thats fine but when everything else fall a part around the engine who cares how great it is.[/quote]

Man, I've never seen a car's interior and exterior fall apart faster than my father's 1998 Chrysler 300. Disgusting.

Monkeydad 09-23-2010 12:50 PM

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[quote=cpayne5;737742]Huh? Where did you come up with that assumption???

Anyway, Jeep has put out some very reliable automobiles over the years. The old AMC-designed 2.5 and 4.0 engines were very reliable. There are many YJ, WJ, TJ, and XJs still on the road with several hundred thousand miles on them. Those engines are some of the most bulletproof designs ever produced. They may not be the most efficient or the most powerful, but I would say that they were/are a benchmark for quality when it comes to reliability.[/quote]

They do seem to run forever. If you do drop a tranny in a Wrangler or Cherokee, they're always easy to find a replacement locally.

MTK 10-21-2010 09:22 AM

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More trouble for Toyota

[url=http://content.usatoday.com/communities/driveon/post/2010/10/toyota-recall-lexus-avalon-highlander/1]Toyota recalls 1.53 million Lexus, Avalon, Highlander models - Drive On: A conversation about the cars and trucks we drive - USATODAY.com[/url]

mredskins 10-21-2010 09:32 AM

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At this point any recall Toyota has makes news.

For the record they repaired my 4Runner the bill was around $5k (zero out of pocket for me). If Ihad taken it to my local wrench it would have been a cheaper repair since he diagnosed the correct issue right off the bat. The dealer just kept throwing parts at my car en till it stopped making the noise.

In the end the issue is fixed and I am keeping the truck for now.

Monkeydad 10-21-2010 03:24 PM

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Never ends...

:D

mredskins 10-21-2010 04:33 PM

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[quote=Buster;750526]Never ends...

:D[/quote]


That can be said about every major company in regards to recalls.


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