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[quote=SirClintonPortis;742832]He beat Green Bay and Dallas. He made big plays to Knox. He extended a play in which he was about to get canned by GB and flipped it to Olsen.
Hell, last year, he beat the Vikes with a beautifully thrown ball to Aromashodu.

This week, the O-line could not tread water like they did in the previous weeks and he gets smacked with a concussion. The Bears o-line is never going to dominate an opposing o-line this year. They'll always be underdogs.


Cutler may be facing similar [I]external issuses[/I] to Campbell like the shitty O-line, but mentally and physically, he is much above Campbell. Campbell is not good with "over the top routes" or routes in which the target point has leads the receiver "up" field. He's only good at stuff like comebacks and the like. Campbell is also mediocre at extending the play, while Cutler has shown he can avoid some critical sacks and the like.[/quote]

No the Defense beat GB and Dallas

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;742869]No the Defense beat GB and Dallas[/quote]

Hmm, the throw to Knox?
Dumpoff to Olsen?
Bomb to Knox?
Slant to Olsen?
How about having that crappy o-line hold up against GB's and Dallas's rush with well-executed and accurate quick throws? The Bears D is nowhere near elite status here. They need offense to make things click, and Cutler played a big role to make the O click in those two games.

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;742871]Hmm, the throw to Knox?
Dumpoff to Olsen?
Bomb to Knox?
Slant to Olsen?
How about having that crappy o-line hold up against GB's and Dallas's rush with well-executed and accurate quick throws? The Bears D is nowhere near elite status here. They need offense to make things click, and Cutler played a big role to make the O click in those two games.[/quote]

hmmm the FF by Briggs and Urlacher leading to the game winning FG
hmmm the Hester PR
hmmm the fact that Cutler threw another red zone int
hmmm the fact that Dallas just isnt that good

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;742873]hmmm the FF by Briggs and Urlacher leading to the game winning FG
hmmm the Hester PR
hmmm the fact that Cutler threw another red zone int
hmmm the fact that Dallas just isnt that good[/quote]

Dallas's defense is still one of the top units in the league and was thrashing Cutler early on in the game. hmmmmmm

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;742876]Dallas's defense is still one of the top units in the league and was thrashing Cutler early on in the game. hmmmmmm[/quote]

hmmmmmm like I said Dallas just isnt that good and Cutler is a good QB. Not great not elite, he's above average to good.

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dude...Jason Campbell isn't even playing in Oakland...I think everyone knows he's not that good. Cutler is a beast with a ROCKET for an arm oh and he also releases it quicker than JC too. It's not even a point arguing who is better b/c it's not even close. And I think Cutler is an tier 2 QB. I'd take him over Schaub for my team, but that's as high as I go. top 4 are still P Manning, brees, rogers, brady, in that order. And Brady is dropping cause of that hair.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;742877]hmmmmmm like I said Dallas just isnt that good and Cutler is a good QB. Not great not elite, he's above average to good.[/quote]

I'm talking about Dallas's defense, not Dallas as a whole.

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[quote=tootergray34;742878]dude...Jason Campbell isn't even playing in Oakland...I think everyone knows he's not that good. Cutler is a beast with a ROCKET for an arm oh and he also releases it quicker than JC too. It's not even a point arguing who is better b/c it's not even close. And I think Cutler is an tier 2 QB. I'd take him over Schaub for my team, but that's as high as I go. top 4 are still P Manning, brees, rogers, brady, in that order. And Brady is dropping cause of that hair.[/quote]

No way in HELL am I taking Cutler over Schaub. If Cutler is the QB for Houston they don't comeback to beat us.

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;742879]I'm talking about Dallas's defense, not Dallas as a whole.[/quote]

We can go back and forth all night but we won't accomplish anything. I like most everyone else thins that Cutler is an above average to good QB. You like almost no one thinks he is an elite QB

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;742882]No way in HELL am I taking Cutler over Schaub. If Cutler is the QB for Houston they don't comeback to beat us.[/quote]

I wouldn't say that but I would say that Schuab is the better QB.

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[quote=Dirtbag359;742884]I wouldn't say that but I would say that Schuab is the better QB.[/quote]

Yes Schaub is the better QB. Cutler is known for forcing passes and throwing ints, so probability would state on one of those drives he would throw a pick.

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Schaub has a better supporting cast than Cutler. Hence, he looks better. Cutler's more talented and would make that offense explode more than it already has. Besides, since Houston's scheme is Shanahan-inspired, Cutler would probably be able to match his Denver production down there.

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Rams are for real

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J-E-T-S. Jets, Jets, Jets. Still waiting for this year's Cutler vs. Campbell vs. Sanchez thread

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;742832]He beat Green Bay and Dallas. He made big plays to Knox. He extended a play in which he was about to get canned by GB and flipped it to Olsen.
Hell, last year, he beat the Vikes with a beautifully thrown ball to Aromashodu.

This week, the O-line could not tread water like they did in the previous weeks and he gets smacked with a concussion. The Bears o-line is never going to dominate an opposing o-line this year. They'll always be underdogs.


Cutler may be facing similar [I]external issuses[/I] to Campbell like the shitty O-line, but mentally and physically, he is much above Campbell. Campbell is not good with "over the top routes" or routes in which the target point has leads the receiver "up" field. He's only good at stuff like comebacks and the like. Campbell is also mediocre at extending the play, [B]while Cutler has shown he can avoid some critical sacks and the like.[/B][/quote]

Like he did nine times against the Giants?

Cutler is good but not elite.

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Something just wasn't right about Cutler last night. The OL has their issues no doubt, but he just wasn't seeing things and was holding on to the ball WAY too long. A lot of those sacks were clearly his fault.

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This might have been addressed in this thread already, if it has I apologize.

I didnt know that if a qb runs out of bounds behind the line of scrimmage (for a loss) that the D is credited with a sack. Is this new?

Who on the defense gets credit for the sack? the player closest to the qb when he steps out of bounds? no player is given credit and its a team sack?

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It's nothing new, yeah I believe the closest player to him gets the credit.

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[quote=SmootSmack;742912]J-E-T-S. Jets, Jets, Jets. Still waiting for this year's Cutler vs. Campbell vs. Sanchez thread[/quote]

Screw Sanchez, we have to talk about Cutler because he's a Redskin...wait, he's not a Redskin? Could've swore he was by the way this thread is going.

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[quote=Chico23231;742910]Rams are for real[/quote]

We still should have beat em!!:spank:

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;741603]Taylor Mays making a statement.
**** the Falcons and their ugly ass uniforms.[/quote]

Falcons throwbacks are FAR better than their current set in my opinion. This is the case for most teams, even the Eagles this year.

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The real Jay Cutler has finally shown up. Knew it would not last. Of course, he didn't get much help.

2 quarters of play: 42 yards, 1 interception, 9 sacks, 1 concussion.

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:lol:

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What is going on with Brandon Lloyd? This guy is just going off. How come Josh McDaniels seems to be able to get this guy to perform and no one here or anywhere else could. Amazing.

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[quote=Chico23231;742910]Rams are for real[/quote]

Rams are not for real. They had no where to go but up. Seattle is not a good road team. Bradford looks legit and they're better but they're still a bad team.

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[quote=skinsfan69;743043]What is going on with Brandon Lloyd? This guy is just going off. How come Josh McDaniels seems to be able to get this guy to perform and no one here or anywhere else could. Amazing.[/quote]

Seriously couldn't get the guy off waivers in my fantasy league. He's on fire.

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[quote=Buster;743025]The real Jay Cutler has finally shown up. Knew it would not last. Of course, he didn't get much help.

2 quarters of play: 42 yards, 1 interception, 9 sacks, 1 concussion.[/quote]

might as well post sanchez and JCs numbers to for this week and season total as well then.

i dont understand the hate/obsession with what sanchez or cutler does. cutler is a good young qb, sanchez is developing into a good young qb. good for them.

you dont have to hate on cutler just cuz some skins fans thought he was better than JC and wanted the trade to go down. that discussion/argument has long since sailed away.

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[quote=skinsfan69;743045]Rams are not for real. They had no where to go but up. Seattle is not a good road team. Bradford looks legit and they're better but they're still a bad team.[/quote]

They are dramatically improved though. Seattle had looked decent coming into that game.

I don't feel so bad about last week now. The Rams could go for 6-7 wins in that toilet of a division.

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[quote=over the mountain;743047]might as well post sanchez and JCs numbers to for this week and season total as well then.

i dont understand the hate/obsession with what sanchez or cutler does. cutler is a good young qb, sanchez is developing into a good young qb. good for them.

you dont have to hate on cutler just cuz some skins fans thought he was better than JC and wanted the trade to go down. that discussion/argument has long since sailed away.[/quote]

Yeah, let's talk about Aaron Rodgers.

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[quote=diehard;743053]Yeah, let's talk about Aaron Rodgers.[/quote]

Someone start the F-ING Packers Week thread.

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[quote=Buster;743050]They are dramatically improved though. Seattle had looked decent coming into that game.

I don't feel so bad about last week now. The Rams could go for 6-7 wins in that toilet of a division.[/quote]

That was a bad loss to STL. They're still not a good team. Seattle is terrible once they get away from Quest Field. That place is the best home field advantage in the NFL.

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[quote=skinsfan69;743150]That was a bad loss to STL. They're still not a good team. Seattle is terrible once they get away from Quest Field. That place is the best home field advantage in the NFL.[/quote]

I completely agree. Their fans are delusional too.

Glasselbeck can't be trusted to play half a season, they have no real #1 RB, only one WR (possibly two how that Brandon Stokely came in this week and impressed).

They did have the best draft in the NFL though, and playing in the worst division in pro sports helps them look better than they really are...but, they were playing decently well up until the Rams game. I think the Rams will be like a pesky fly in many games this year...we definitely overlooked them.

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34-14 patriots and they have scored two special team TDs , blocked punt and FG.. 103 yd TD return all after halftime

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I wonder if Randy Moss has ever had a zero catch game

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Well, for Miami.......HOLY SHIT!!!!!!!!

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[quote=SmootSmack;743377]I wonder if Randy Moss has ever had a zero catch game[/quote]

I bet he did in Oakland

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[quote=SmootSmack;743377]I wonder if Randy Moss has ever had a zero catch game[/quote]

Challenge accepted!

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[quote=Hog1;743379]Well, for Miami.......HOLY SHIT!!!!!!!![/quote]

Yeah, they were winning at the half and I went to bed right after the 103-yd return by Tate to open the 2nd half...it was 13-7 then...

Woke up and heard the score... :Flush:

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[quote=SmootSmack;743377]I wonder if Randy Moss has ever had a zero catch game[/quote]

Believe it or not last night was the 5th time he's gone without a catch in a game - courtesy of Mike & Mike this morning.

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Not sure I've seen a special teams meltdown quite like the Dolphins had last night.