Re: Smoot Lays The Smack Down (Redskins at Eagles)
 

[quote=skinsfan69;742896]I can't blame Heyer. He's not a LT yet they keep putting him over there. How about putting Brown over at Lt and move Heyer to his natural position.[/quote]

Heyers "natural position" is LT. He just sucks.

Re: Smoot Lays The Smack Down (Redskins at Eagles)
 

You guys hating on this ugly win might want to get your hatorade ready next week.

I know it ain't Wednesday yet, but the Kool Aid is flowing this morning. I got the Skins winning 27-17 vs. the Packers! Hail!!

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I was a little dissapointed in the running plays in the second half. It seemed that they went away from what had been working in the first half. Instead of east/west running, they started going downhill, and it didn't work. They got back to the stretching plays late in the fourth quarter, but I just don't understand why they didnt' stick with them for the entire game. Did anyone else notice that? I'm sure there was a reason and I'm just not yet aware what it was, but I'd love some enlightenment if anyone knows.

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I was trying to find the post were someone here posted about how they hate the Bears because it seems like everything they have done is positive so far leading up to week 4.


I said this before isn't funny how things in the NFL can change on a dime week to week.

I am starting to thing a lost to a 2010 Rams team is much different then a lost to a 2009 Rams team.

There are really no gimme's in the NFL, there are no Pittsburgh Pirates or LA Clippers in the NFL that roll just roll over like a commanded dog. Any team can beat any team on any given Sunday, don't believe me ask Vegas.

With that said this was a huge win and to be 2-0 in the East should make every skins fan feel on top of the NFL world!

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;742870]Also, geniuses, here's the dude who really said this game was meaningless.[/quote]

What? When? You mean the post when I satirized the idea of meaninglessness (after others were already discussing it) by bringing up a number of big positives?

You must have me on "ignore" because you clearly read none of my posts.

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I'm laying the smack down on those fans who are hating and negative.

Before the game some people [I]guaranteed [/I]that the Iggles would blow us out. Worse, at least one person made it clear after the Rams game that we had no hope of winning our next four games.

Give me a break. You folks are terrible fans. On behalf of those of us who bleed burgundy and gold, f*** you.

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Well people were frustrated after the Rams game. I get it, that's fine. I can't really understand dismissing yesterday's win though

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[quote=Lotus;742911]I'm laying the smack down on those fans who are hating and negative.

Before the game some people [I]guaranteed [/I]that the Iggles would blow us out. Worse, at least one person made it clear after the Rams game that we had no hope of winning our next four games.

Give me a break. You folks are terrible fans. On behalf of those of us who bleed burgundy and gold, f*** you.[/quote]

Yeah, considering how some were so down on the team prior to the game, to continue on with the negativity after a big win like that is just ridiculous. Some people are just happy in their misery I guess.

Granted I didn't think we would win yesterday, but I did think we were going to see a much better effort.

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[quote=Lotus;742908]What? When? You mean the post when I satirized the idea of meaninglessness (after others were already discussing it) by bringing up a number of big positives?

You must have me on "ignore" because you clearly read none of my posts.[/quote]

Reading comprehension is a lost art it seems.

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I didn't have time to comb through the game-day thread, but how bout some love for fat Al? Was consistently getting pressure despite being held nearly every play (with one of those holds being crucially called). Looked like a decent NT yesterday.

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In regards to the negative attitudes on the game thread, I dont see a real problem with it . There was carry over from the super frustrating last second Houston loss, and the Rams game was just piss poor from start to finish. I can understand the negative attitudes yesterday...I know I had a couple comments, but when you see the samething over and over it gets frustrating. I mean whether we lay smackdown during the game or just 5 mins after it...really makes no difference to me. Saying Mike Sellers sucks balls during the game or just after it...its the samething, Mike Sellers sucks.

To dismiss the win is a completely different thing, thats really not understanding NFC East football. To win in this conference on the road, its always physical and always super ugly.

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[quote=Chico23231;742922]In regards to the negative attitudes on the game thread, I dont see a real problem with it . There was carry over from the super frustrating last second Houston loss, and the Rams game was just piss poor from start to finish. I can understand the negative attitudes yesterday...I know I had a couple comments, but when you see the samething over and over it gets frustrating. I mean whether we lay smackdown during the game or just 5 mins after it...really makes no difference to me. Saying Mike Sellers sucks balls during the game or just after it...its the samething, Mike Sellers sucks.

To dismiss the win is a completely different thing, thats really not understanding NFC East football. To win in this conference on the road, its always physical and always super ugly.[/quote]

I was reading a Giants gameday thread when they had 9 sacks and only a 3-0 lead and the difference was night and day vs. ours. If I was only following the game based on our gameday thread I would have thought we were getting blown out.

Saying Mike Sellers sucks during the game is one thing. Saying Mike Sellers sucks, now we're going to lose the game even though we're winning by two scores, have the ball and the clock is running is another.

End of the day, what matters to me is we won and I'm happy about that. Whether others are doesn't really make a difference I suppose

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I haven't read the entire thread - but then I don't think I need to. It's the same people saying the same things since Gibbs II. "Doom Doom Doom".

Look, I hate it when we lose, but - dammit - WE F'ING WON. Sure, it wasn't pretty and, yes, there are some serious issues that need to be addressed. So, should we bring back Vinny and his "quick fix" method? Or - maybe, just maybe - we can be patient with MS and BA. (Hey, they already have 2 more wins than Gibbs did in his first 5 games).

It is unlikely this team is going anywhere beyond 16 games this year. In fact, it is unlikely that, as a Skin's fan, you will have more than six or seven "Winning Mondays" in the next ten months. So, I suggest you enjoy the ones you get. Bitch after the losses. But damn. Enjoy the win for at least a day or two.

My smack? all covered. lots of questionable coaching issues. McNabb - Out of bounds? Really? - Was this another "I didn't know how overtime works." moment? Banks on a reverse from the 3? Yikes - clever by a half.

We are 2-0 in the division - w/ home games against both the Eagles & Cowboys to come. We are tied at the top of our division. I don't expect that to last so I will enjoy the victory. I'll take 12 more of these ugly lucky wins any season b/c the Skins winning makes my f'ing week.

So hate on if you must, but, in the immortal words of Sir Mick - "Hey! You! Get off of my cloud!"

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[quote=Chico23231;742922]In regards to the negative attitudes on the game thread, I dont see a real problem with it . There was carry over from the super frustrating last second Houston loss, and the Rams game was just piss poor from start to finish. I can understand the negative attitudes yesterday...I know I had a couple comments, but when you see the samething over and over it gets frustrating. I mean whether we lay smackdown during the game or just 5 mins after it...really makes no difference to me. Saying Mike Sellers sucks balls during the game or just after it...its the samething, Mike Sellers sucks.

To dismiss the win is a completely different thing, thats really not understanding NFC East football. To win in this conference on the road, its always physical and always super ugly.[/quote]

I was definitely a key whiner yesterday, I mean basically I got tired of seeing our DEs get in a choke hold on every play. I think literally 50-60% of times Peters could have been called for a hold. Maybe in the interest of keeping the game going they didn't call those and I understand a lot of stuff goes on but it was TOTALLY blatant.

Like you said Chico, it's just years of games like this going in the DIFFERENT direction. It's going to take a few wins like this on OUR side for me to get over it. :D

Re: Smoot Lays The Smack Down (Redskins at Eagles)
 

I think a lot of folks get frustrated during the game becasue we are waiting for the other shoe to drop as how we are going to find away to lose the game.

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[quote=SmootSmack;742924]I was reading a Giants gameday thread when they had 9 sacks and only a 3-0 lead and the difference was night and day vs. ours. If I was only following the game based on our gameday thread I would have thought we were getting blown out.

Saying Mike Sellers sucks during the game is one thing. Saying Mike Sellers sucks, now we're going to lose the game even though we're winning by two scores, have the ball and the clock is running is another.

End of the day, what matters to me is we won and I'm happy about that. Whether others are doesn't really make a difference I suppose[/quote]

Sellers does suck. He's a liability everytime he's on the field and touching the ball.

Re: Smoot Lays The Smack Down (Redskins at Eagles)
 

[quote=irish;742933]Sellers does suck. He's a liability everytime he's on the field and touching the ball.[/quote]

lolololol...:doh:

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Yeah some folks will never be happy. They don't hand out UW (ugly wins) in the NFL. I'll take a W anyway we can get it.

In other news, I just picked up Ryan Torain for my fantasy team. He might be a keeper.

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[quote=12thMan;742937]Yeah some folks will never be happy. They don't hand out UW (ugly wins) in the NFL. I'll take a W anyway we can get it.

[B]In other news, I just picked up Ryan Torain for my fantasy team. He might be a keeper.[/B][/quote]


Now that is comedy! You be better served picking up Sam Bradford (assuming he is still around).

Re: Smoot Lays The Smack Down (Redskins at Eagles)
 

[quote=SmootSmack;742894]You strike me as someone who enjoys being miserable...and please tell me you're not serious that Lotus is calling the game miserable[/quote]Accusing me of calling the game meaningless in the sense of it have no relevance in the future is insulting. I already gave what sense I meant by it, but no, it has to be I meaningless totally

It's called being objective. Why the hell should I be blindly happy and acting like we're the Colts or the Pats of the early or mid 2000s when I'm clearly going to be setting myself up for MAJOR disappointment? Hell, we were one Jason Avant drop from being 1-3. That cannot go on for every game for the rest of the season if they really want to compete into January. I already was hyper optimistic during the Zorn years, and that failed to deliver because I was too willing to sweep flaws under the rug.

The "Emperor has no clothes" is a disgusting attitude and I'm not going to be adopting it no matter how much people try to goad me into it. It's not objective, it's delusion.
I had absolutely no idea Kolb was going to come in when I was making my predictions.

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Speaking of Torain....is he the #1 guy now with Portis banged up?

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Jeez nobody is saying we're now the Colts or Patriots, we're just saying it's ok to enjoy a win and not nitpick and bitch about every little shoulda, coulda, woulda moment.

Re: Smoot Lays The Smack Down (Redskins at Eagles)
 

[quote=SirClintonPortis;742941]Accusing me of calling the game meaningless in the sense of it have no relevance in the future is insulting. I already gave what sense I meant by it, but no, it has to be I meaningless totally

It's called being objective. Why the hell should I be blindly happy and acting like we're the Colts or the Pats of the early or mid 2000s when I'm clearly going to be setting myself up for MAJOR disappointment? Hell, we were one Jason Avant drop from being 1-3. That cannot go on for every game for the rest of the season if they really want to compete into January. I already was hyper optimistic during the Zorn years, and that failed to deliver because I was too willing to sweep flaws under the rug.

The "Emperor has no clothes" is a disgusting attitude and I'm not going to be adopting it no matter how much people try to goad me into it. It's not objective, it's delusion.
I had absolutely no idea Kolb was going to come in when I was making my predictions.[/quote]


And one holding penalty from being 0-4.

The difference between yesterday's 1st half Skins and yesterday's 2nd half Skins is unbelievable.

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I love the Monday morning analysis. You're telling me four games into the season, we can predict who's looking like playoff material and who isn't? Good grief, the Chiefs are undefeated and my money is on them folding like a tent down the stretch. I believe the Redskins are improving little by little in different facets, they've just yet to put it all together in one game.

We've seen McNabb open up the passing game and go bonkers against the Texans. The running game is finally starting to show some flashes. We're getting more comforatable with the defensive scheme, even Haynesworth is starting to get his sea legs. I'm sorry, but I'm encouraged. And for all the what if Vick doesn't get hurt apologists, give me a break!! I can't believe B.Mitch, of all people, went there post game. His ass got hit by a hard hitting defense, that's not luck that's football. We've potentially changed the entire dynamic of Philly's season and maybe the NFC East.

We pull off an upset Sunday and suddenly we're talking about a Wild Card caliber team. Let's hope so.

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;742941]Accusing me of calling the game meaningless in the sense of it have no relevance in the future is insulting. I already gave what sense I meant by it, but no, it has to be I meaningless totally[/quote]

Not sure that was a sentence, but for the record I never accused you (if you're saying I did). And Lotus never seriously did either.

[quote]It's called being objective. Why the hell should I be blindly happy and acting like we're the Colts or the Pats of the early or mid 2000s when I'm clearly going to be setting myself up for MAJOR disappointment?[/quote]

Who's blindly happy? Do you even recognize the thread you're posting in? Have you actually read any of it? No one here is saying we're marching straight to the Super Bowl

[quote]Hell, we were one Jason Avant drop from being 1-3. That cannot go on for every game for the rest of the season if they really want to compete into January. I already was hyper optimistic during the Zorn years, and that failed to deliver because I was too willing to sweep flaws under the rug.[/quote]

We were also one Armstrong trip away from a 21-0 lead, one Carlos Rogers interception away from that Avant throw never happening, one Heyer false start away from Rogers not even needing to be back on the field.

[quote]The "Emperor has no clothes" is a disgusting attitude and I'm not going to be adopting it no matter how much people try to goad me into it. It's not objective, it's delusion.[/quote]

Again, do you even realize what thread you're posting in?

[quote]I had absolutely no idea Kolb was going to come in when I was making my predictions.[/quote]

And that would have changed your prediction?

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My God, this thread has turned into everyone either bitching about the game, or bitching about people bitching about the game. How about we talk about the game?
Why did the Skins changed the approach to the running game in the second half?
How did Haynesworth appear to everyone?
Who are the real Redskins, the team we saw in the first half, or the team we saw in the second?

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[quote=Chico23231;742922]In regards to the negative attitudes on the game thread, I dont see a real problem with it . There was carry over from the super frustrating last second Houston loss, and the Rams game was just piss poor from start to finish. I can understand the negative attitudes yesterday...I know I had a couple comments, but when you see the samething over and over it gets frustrating. I mean whether we lay smackdown during the game or just 5 mins after it...really makes no difference to me. Saying Mike Sellers sucks balls during the game or just after it...its the samething, Mike Sellers sucks.

To dismiss the win is a completely different thing, thats really not understanding NFC East football. To win in this conference on the road, its always physical and always super ugly.[/quote]


I was lurking the game day thread. It pretty much turned my stomach to read all of the negativity. I can understand if the 'skins were losing, but for Pete's sake, it was ridiculous to read. You have to keep in perspective that this team is going through a transition. The Redskins were 4-12 last season. There is a lot of new things going on with this team this year and it is all going to take time. I can tell a world of difference already. Yes, I am very frustrated with the defense and extremely frustrated with Stephon Heyer, but it will get better. You also have to look at the positives. The Redskins are undefeated in their division. I'm not sure if the Redskins even won a game in their division last year. Maybe one? That is already an improvement.

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;742941]Accusing me of calling the game meaningless in the sense of it have no relevance in the future is insulting. I already gave what sense I meant by it, but no, it has to be I meaningless totally

It's called being objective. Why the hell should I be blindly happy and acting like we're the Colts or the Pats of the early or mid 2000s when I'm clearly going to be setting myself up for MAJOR disappointment? Hell, we were one Jason Avant drop from being 1-3. That cannot go on for every game for the rest of the season if they really want to compete into January. I already was hyper optimistic during the Zorn years, and that failed to deliver because I was too willing to sweep flaws under the rug.

The "Emperor has no clothes" is a disgusting attitude and I'm not going to be adopting it no matter how much people try to goad me into it. It's not objective, it's delusion.
I had absolutely no idea Kolb was going to come in when I was making my predictions.[/quote]

Quick someone call 911 we need a [B][I][FONT=&quot]WAAAAAmbulence [/FONT][/I][/B][I][FONT=&quot][/FONT][/I][FONT=&quot]in the Smack Down thread! [/FONT]

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[quote=Alvin Walton;742945]Speaking of Torain....is he the #1 guy now with Portis banged up?[/quote]

Hopefully Portis will ready to go next week. Love Torain, but Portis is the better all-around back in my opinion.

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Skins were 0-6 in the division last year, so 2-0 so far is a big improvement.

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[quote=Coff;742950]My God, this thread has turned into everyone either bitching about the game, or bitching about people bitching about the game. How about we talk about the game?
Why did the Skins changed the approach to the running game in the second half?
How did Haynesworth appear to everyone?
Who are the real Redskins, the team we saw in the first half, or the team we saw in the second?[/quote]


Dude you are losing focus, those are meaningless topics! :)

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[quote=Coff;742950]My God, this thread has turned into everyone either bitching about the game, or bitching about people bitching about the game. How about we talk about the game?
Why did the Skins changed the approach to the running game in the second half?
How did Haynesworth appear to everyone?
Who are the real Redskins, the team we saw in the first half, or the team we saw in the second?[/quote]

I didn't really notice a big change in their approach with the running game.

Haynesworth looked really solid, as did Carter playing with his hand in the dirt and Alexander and Wilson playing in space

Million dollar question

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Everyone has the NFL figure out right!

How do you figure this?


KC 4-0.

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;742941]Accusing me of calling the game meaningless in the sense of it have no relevance in the future is insulting. I already gave what sense I meant by it, but no, it has to be I meaningless totally

It's called being objective. [B]Why the hell should I be blindly happy and acting like we're the Colts or the Pats of the early or mid 2000s [/B]when I'm clearly going to be setting myself up for MAJOR disappointment? Hell, we were one Jason Avant drop from being 1-3. That cannot go on for every game for the rest of the season if they really want to compete into January. I already was hyper optimistic during the Zorn years, and that failed to deliver because I was too willing to sweep flaws under the rug.

[B]The "Emperor has no clothes" is a disgusting attitude and I'm not going to be adopting it no matter how much people try to goad me into it. It's not objective, it's delusion.
I had absolutely no idea Kolb was going to come in when I was making my predictions[/B].[/quote]

So anything less than an assured Superbowl year means you can't be happy?Wow.

Is anyone here proclaiming this was a convincing, proof of greatness win? Of course the emperor has no clothes. Is anyone trying to dress this win up as the beggining of a new championship era? That it confirms we are playoff caliber team? I don't see anyone seriously saying this team is championship caliber. Rather, I see a bunch of hater's saying it doesn't prove anything, we were lucky, Sellers sucks, blah blah blah. Even if all those statements are true (which, btw, I pretty much believe they are) - so the F what?

WE BEAT THE EAGLES!! IN PHILLY!! CHOKE ON THAT EAGLES FANS!!!

Can you be happy we won? Not anything about next week. Or the week after. Just today. The day after we pulled out a win/survived a comeback from a division rival - in their house? That brings you no blind "I'll worry about next week tomorrow" happiness? Life is suffering interrupted by moments of joy my friend - enjoy the interruption. The suffering will begin soon enough.

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[quote=mredskins;742961]Everyone has the NFL figure out right!

How do you figure this?


KC 4-0.[/quote]

Damn, they even beat the bye week eh?

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[quote=SmootSmack;742959]I didn't really notice a big change in their approach with the running game.

Haynesworth looked really solid, as did Carter playing with his hand in the dirt and Alexander and Wilson playing in space

Million dollar question[/quote]

More than anything I think the Eagles just did a good job at clamping down on the run there for a while.

Re: Smoot Lays The Smack Down (Redskins at Eagles)
 

[quote=SmootSmack;742959]I didn't really notice a big change in their approach with the running game.

Haynesworth looked really solid, as did Carter playing with his hand in the dirt and Alexander and Wilson playing in space

Million dollar question[/quote]

I think Has is searching for different 'fits' on defense. Fat Al just might be the missing link afterall. As frustrated as I've been with this defense, I think they're starting to get better.

And yes, Carter needs to keep his hand in the dirt where it belongs.

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[quote=Coff;742950]My God, this thread has turned into everyone either bitching about the game, or bitching about people bitching about the game. How about we talk about the game?
Why did the Skins changed the approach to the running game in the second half?
How did Haynesworth appear to everyone?
Who are the real Redskins, the team we saw in the first half, or the team we saw in the second?[/quote]

I didn't really see much of a change in approach to the Redskins' running game in the second half. Teams make adjustments and linemen get tired. The Redskins were still able to move the ball in the second half, they just couldn't score points, which did bother me.

I thought Haynesworth played relatively well. He was getting penetration through the line and making tackles. I think Fat Al will continue to improve throughout the season.

It is going to take more than four games for this offense to gel into the offense we hope to see. But, we have already seen flashes of how explosive it can be. The 'skins get Trent Williams back and have two healthy running backs (Portis and torrain,) things will start picking up. Give this team a year or two, and I think you'll see a big difference.

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[quote=SmootSmack;742959]I didn't really notice a big change in their approach with the running game.

Haynesworth looked really solid, as did Carter playing with his hand in the dirt and Alexander and Wilson playing in space

Million dollar question[/quote]

I saw earlier you spoke of the LB adjustments. I missed much of the actual game (you know, the part where they were scoring). Where was Wilson playing? Was it a Alexander on 1st & 2nd downs and Wilson on 3rd type of situation? Really missed it.

Love AC, but, when he is in coverage, it's like the D only has 10 guys on the field.

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If you guys haven't heard McNabb's post game locker room speech, please go somewhere and find it. This is the leader we've been missing for so long.