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From the article, pretty much sums it up for me:

[QUOTE]No disrespect intended to the professional Grossman, but there's a reason why he's a backup. Actually, many reasons.

He helped the Chicago Bears reach the Super Bowl in his best season as a starter in 2006 (3,193 yards passing, 23 touchdowns, 20 interceptions), but he failed to keep the job and no longer is considered a starting-caliber NFL quarterback. That's not a criticism. It's a fact.
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McNabb the QB is [B]not as sharp [/B]as he should be....at the moment.
McNabb the Leader [B]IS[/B]..........
Rex for President....not for QB

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So my question is, now that we know that Shanahan wanted to give McNabb 8 to 10 games before deciding on his contract....

If we somehow (hopefully not) tank, and get to a point where the skins are eliminated from the playoffs, do we play Rex Grossman, so Shanahan can decide if Rex is the QB for next season and possibly beyond??

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I knew it was going to be just a matter of time before we began to see post about McNabb that surfaced on the RI. today.

Rex Grossman is not an option [imo] However, it's obvious there are concerns about the inconsistent play at the position.

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[B]Shanahan: no contract talks with McNabb during the season[/B]
Redskins Coach Mike Shanahan said Wednesday that he would not be involved in any contract discussions with quarterback Donovan McNabb - or any other player - during the season, further dampening the chances that the first-year quarterback could received an extension in Washington before the season is over.

After the Redskins' workout Wednesday in preparation for Sunday's game at Detroit, Shanahan was asked if he needed to evaluate McNabb - who, through seven games, has what would be his worst passer rating since 1999 -- for a full season before deciding on an extension.

"They've asked me before: 'Well, when are you going to offer a contract? Have you talked about contracts?'" Shanahan said. "I'm going to do this with all different positions. No. 1, I don't get involved at this time of year. The only thing that I talk about is guys getting ready to play and playing at a very high level. If I ever talk about contract with a player, [B][U]it'll be at the end of the season, for obvious reasons."[/U][/B]

Earlier Wednesday, McNabb took a similar stance, though he joked that he would like to have a new deal in place by now.

"That's really nothing that I am concerned with at this particular point," McNabb said.

There is a possibility that General Manager Bruce Allen could initiate talks on an extension, but no deal of that magnitude would be executed without Shanahan's input.

By Barry Svrluga | October 27, 2010; 3:16 PM ET
[url=http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/donovan-mcnabb/shanahan-no-contract-talks-wit.html]Redskins Insider - Shanahan: no contract talks with McNabb during the season[/url]
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For the record, I'll go along with everyone here -- and say that this seems like a horribly bad idea. Sure, he's really bad now - but there's the O-line, the lack of WR's without gray hair, the only recent rejuvenation of the running game. McNabb's been a ProBowl QB with "elite" written all over him for the past decade - and one year doesn't negate that.

SO - when this offseason comes around, and we're ready or contemplating whether to sign McNabb to a new deal, that's when we would then have to compete with 10 other teams.. Including Minnesota who's already shown a penchant for *free agent* senile QB's..

I'm just saying -- it would be nice to sign him to a long term deal so our second round pick doesn't get wasted. Most would agree he's worth it. Then we can draft someone to replace him.

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Well our second round pick wouldn't be wasted: we received a year of Donovan McNabb for it. That's what we paid for with that pick: we bought his existing contract.

A decision to extend McNabb must be made independent of what was traded for him.

We should have the Franchise tag in our pocket to use on McNabb. They may decide to discontinue the process of the franchise tag, but McNabb can't just walk unless we say he can.

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Lost in all of this is that McNabb specifically said he wanted to be traded to D.C...I can only assume he is willing to stay in D.C. for a little less money than what Bills or the 49ers could/might offer him.

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[quote=saden1;753086]Lost in all of this is that McNabb specifically said he wanted to be traded to D.C...I can only assume he is willing to stay in D.C. for a little less money than what Bills or the 49ers could/might offer him.[/quote]

True, but dude lives in AZ... you'd think he'd be willing to give a discount to the Cards as well in hopes of throwing bombs to Fitz. Can't say I'd blame him.

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I really can't stand to here someone even say Grossman over Mcnabb to start.

Makes no sense to me. Keep #5 in there and continue to get him more comfortable. Enough said.

I am somewhat embarrassed that RI would print that article in the paper. We aren't Philly, and without #5 at QB we are not 4-3 and definately do not have a better record.

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[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;753099]I really can't stand to here someone even say Grossman over Mcnabb to start.

Makes no sense to me. Keep #5 in there and continue to get him more comfortable. Enough said.

[B]I am somewhat embarrassed that RI would print that article in the paper. We aren't Philly, and without #5 at QB we are not 4-3 and definately do not have a better record[/B].[/quote]

Dumb fans come in many colors.

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[quote=Mattyk;752891]From the article, pretty much sums it up for me:
[QUOTE]No disrespect intended to the professional Grossman, but there's a reason why he's a backup. Actually, many reasons.

He helped the Chicago Bears reach the Super Bowl in his best season as a starter in 2006 (3,193 yards passing, 23 touchdowns, 20 interceptions), but he failed to keep the job and no longer is considered a starting-caliber NFL quarterback. That's not a criticism. It's a fact.[/quote]



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Yeah, but can Donovan do THIS?
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[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/10/28/mcnabb-says-hes-not-concerned-about-contract-negotiations/]McNabb says he's not concerned about contract negotiations | ProFootballTalk.com[/url]

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[quote=Mattyk;753174][URL="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/10/28/mcnabb-says-hes-not-concerned-about-contract-negotiations/"]McNabb says he's not concerned about contract negotiations | ProFootballTalk.com[/URL][/quote]

Well with his current stats I guess he is not concerned right now until they improve and they really only have room to go up.

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[quote=SolidSnake84;749501]Is anyone else bothered that we are almost half way into this season and our QB, Donovan still doesnt have a new contract??? I may be paranoid, but it makes me think that maybe Shanahan doesnt have faith in him to be his long-term QB.

We know with his injuries and advancing age, that McNabb maybe only had about 2 or 3 years left when he was traded here. Do you think that is a factor on why he hasnt been re-signed? Maybe they are worried about giving him big money when he could only have 1 year left or they dont want to sign him to a longer term deal because he is an injury concern..

I searched and hadn't seen any new threads on this in a while, and just wanted to weigh in now that the season is about halfway....[/quote]

Not at all. If we can avoid another lengthy overpaid contract and not Mark Brunell again that would be great. I would expect Shanahan to want to groom a young talent but who knows if he is up to the challenge and has the time for that. Draft picks arent a luxury we have.

Does anyone know of what QB's that will be Free Agents next year. In my dreams Brees becomes available.

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[quote=Deisel;752305]Partially new to this forum

Does anyone feel like they're in Philly?? Seriously, 7 games and McNabb doesnt deserve to be a Skin? Just let him go after the season? It's the FIRST year under a totally NEW regime for the Skins on top of McNabb's first year on the team! I actually have confidence in our offense right now when on the field. Sure he hasn't been awesome but I don't believe he's lost any games for us. We still have tons of work to do to get this team to where Shanny wants it, tons. We're 4-3, you couldnt ask for anything more right now. We've also been in every game. I'm sure both sides are just fine in terms of a contract. Let's just take it a week at a time.[/quote]

I remember aside from all the hype in pre-season, I think the OL hasn't failed (only DDockery) Portis done but Torrain stepped up, havent seen FDavis utilized in a dual TE gameplan, the WR's are performing as expected except Moss is excelling and teams arent trying to take him away yet. I think McNabb is doing great. Campbell would have lost games Don. at least has made 80-90 yard drives and been a real leader on the field. I worry about the times we have good field position and can't capitalize. Not just b/c I bought the wife and I McNabb jerseys but i say keep him ust dont over pay. In another year when we have a worthy backup or another great veteran (Rex not talking about you) we will pass the reins. IMO.

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[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/11/12/report-mcnabb-extension-on-faster-track/]Report: McNabb extension on “faster track” | ProFootballTalk[/url]

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I just heard the same the on the NFL network.

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Not to down play this, but it just strikes me as the team trying to smooth over things a bit given all the drama lately.

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^ yea I agree matty.. I wonder if they will extend him for 1 or 2 years? Maybe longer

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[quote=Mattyk;758010]Not to down play this, but it just strikes me as the team trying to smooth over things a bit given all the drama lately.[/quote]

Agreed. It worked in Philly.

1) McNabb benched as a wake up call, then
2) McNabb responded by playing well but feeling hurt, then
3) hurt feelings soothed with money

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Whether we like it or not we're stuck with McNabb for a few years. Just cause there is no extension doesn't mean anything. To be honest I really don't think there is going to be a big market for him anyway. He may not have a choice but to resign here.

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I would think the Cards and Vikes would be very interested in him.

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[quote=Mattyk;758052]I would think the Cards and Vikes would be very interested in him.[/quote]

At this point is Tavarus Jackson any worse than McNabb?? I don't know... I'd expect the Cards to go with one of the guys in the draft.

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Jackson hasn't proven anything yet in this league. You're kidding yourself if you don't think there would be a market for McNabb.

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[quote=Mattyk;758052]I would think the Cards and Vikes would be very interested in him.[/quote]


..........maybe even Miami.

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I could definitely see Miami as an option. Arizona makes sense because they need a QB (or give the ball to Skelton) and McNabb has a home there but I haven't got the sense that Whisenhunt wants McNabb running his offense. Only reason Minnesota is mentioned is because of Childress. No Chilly, No Donovan in Minnesota.

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Re-sign mcnabb!

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Mcnabb will get a new contract when

he completes more passes
throws less interceptions
throws more touchdowns

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I don't know if this has been posted elsewhere

[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5805214]Sources: Donovan McNabb contract talks to resume - ESPN[/url]

Seems like both sides are looking for a 4 year extension? I wouldn't be opposed to it because it would give us a chance to draft and develop a new QB in the next 1-2 years.

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[quote=SportsFanatic;758123]Mcnabb will get a new contract when

he completes more passes
throws less interceptions
throws more touchdowns[/quote]

I haven't been impressed with DM this year, at times yes but I will never understand letting go of DThomas. DM has no weapons ,give him what he had in Philly with our run game- he will be unstoppable but it seems the Skins are paying the price of letting DT go when we are all anxious to see if Torrain will be effective and is still hurt. W/o a run game, with a failing OL, why would we embarrass our starting QB ????? I hope its motivating and inspiring b/c a lot of what Shannie has said/done this year seems to have the opposite effect.

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No way would I want to see them do a 4 year extension with DM. IMO it should be 2.

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[quote=irish;758182]No way would I want to see them do a 4 year extension with DM. IMO it should be 2.[/quote]


I agree on ESPN yesterday they were saying it would reflect Tom Brady's extension. I rather cut bait then keep him here 4 more years.

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as w/most contracts, the total # of years is for cap accounting, prorating bonus, etc. Doesn't mean he'd be here 4 years.

If he was, I would hope that he could be in a backup role by year 3 or 4.

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[quote=freddyg12;758200]as w/most contracts, the total # of years is for cap accounting, prorating bonus, etc. Doesn't mean he'd be here 4 years.

If he was, I would hope that he could be in a backup role by year 3 or 4.[/quote]

DM isnt backing up for anyone.

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i think tonight's game goes a long way in deciding DM's future here. I thought it was a good move when we got him but now I am thinking it was not the best move and considering his age I rather seem him walk.

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[quote=Mattyk;758061]Jackson hasn't proven anything yet in this league. You're kidding yourself if you don't think there would be a market for McNabb.[/quote]

There will be a market for him but a very small one IMO.

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He should get a 1 year extension, nothing more. If he cries for big money, then let him walk and find a better deal elsewhere. He isn't fitting in here with this offense. The Shanahans dont like him, but even still he is not working out here like we hoped he would...

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I wouldn't mind the McNabb trade as much if there were a young qb in waiting. Maybe that guy is John Beck & they really think he could be next?

At this point I don't see a much better alternative to McNabb being available in the offseason. To not re-sign & let him walk him would really suck for the new regime. Allen & Shanny have a lot riding on his performance, they gave up some picks & essentially sold the fanbase on the notion that the team could win sooner rather than later and didn't need to rebuild.

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[quote=SmootSmack;758107]I could definitely see Miami as an option. Arizona makes sense because they need a QB (or give the ball to Skelton) and McNabb has a home there but I haven't got the sense that Whisenhunt wants McNabb running his offense. Only reason Minnesota is mentioned is because of Childress. No Chilly, No Donovan in Minnesota.[/quote]

The Bidwills's also aren't known for dooling out large contracts for aging players, [or any player for that matter] With Minnesota's stadium situation being the way it is, Childress and the economy, may all serve to prevent Minn. from being an ideal location in the event a deal is not done here.

The market could be shrinking for McNabb depending of course on how he performs in the next eight games. The events of the last few weeks have done nothing to promote his value on the open market.

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[quote=freddyg12;758225]I wouldn't mind the McNabb trade as much if there were a young qb in waiting. Maybe that guy is John Beck & they really think he could be next?

At this point I don't see a much better alternative to McNabb being available in the offseason. To not re-sign & let him walk him would really suck for the new regime. Allen & Shanny have a lot riding on his performance, they gave up some picks & essentially sold the fanbase on the notion that the team could win sooner rather than later and didn't need to rebuild.[/quote]


Do you ever think that McNabb was brought here to camouflage the rebuilding to make it look like it was win now to keep fans hungry?

I won't be surprised if that was the case and if he worked out here even better. In the end the NFL is a business and maybe the McNabb move was just that a business move to hide the fact we have a long way to go.

If DS and company came right out and said this was a rebuilding year the bottom line for 2010 would look a lot different then a win now attitude about 2010.