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GTripp0012 12-17-2010 05:30 PM

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Can't we all just agree that both teams suck a lot and that this is probably going to be a pretty close game? Why does the Redskins being in disarray mean that the Cowboys have some sort of plan for the future?

SmootSmack 12-17-2010 05:52 PM

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So the McNabb news make you guys more or less interested in watching Sunday's game?

mlmdub130 12-17-2010 05:55 PM

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[quote=GTripp0012;769962][B]Can't we all just agree that both teams suck a lot and that this is probably going to be a pretty close game[/B]? Why does the Redskins being in disarray mean that the Cowboys have some sort of plan for the future?[/quote]

no.

long and short of it al the teams in our division are all light years ahead of us. the eagles, giants and cowboys are all three stocked with you playmakers on both side of the ball, the same can simply not be said about the skins.

i would trade our roster with anyone in our division no questions asked 100 out of 100 times. each team has a two headed running attack, atleast two young stud recievers, a leader at the qb position, and thats just on offense. when you really think about it it is very deppresing, thats why i don't understand how people can even begin to talk shit about other teams in our division. there was a reason we were swept last year, and i'm very happy it didn't happen again this year.

i love this team, always have always will, but people need to be realistic

GTripp0012 12-17-2010 05:58 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;769971]So the McNabb news make you guys more or less interested in watching Sunday's game?[/quote]More.

mlmdub130 12-17-2010 05:59 PM

Re: Its Dallas Sucks Week
 
[quote=SmootSmack;769971]So the McNabb news make you guys more or less interested in watching Sunday's game?[/quote]

honestly i will still watch it, it is skins dallas afterall and i would love nothing more than to see us win. that said i am fearing the pre game and having to listen to the broadcast. i am just so tired of being the butt of the nfl, how many shots of mcnabb standing on the sideline do you think we will see is the real question.

any idea who has the game this week, if it's moose, goose, and dipshit i may have to mute it

GTripp0012 12-17-2010 06:00 PM

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[quote=mlmdub130;769976]no.

long and short of it al the teams in our division are all light years ahead of us. the eagles, giants and cowboys are all three stocked with you playmakers on both side of the ball, the same can simply not be said about the skins.

i would trade our roster with anyone in our division no questions asked 100 out of 100 times. each team has a two headed running attack, atleast two young stud recievers, a leader at the qb position, and thats just on offense. when you really think about it it is very deppresing, thats why i don't understand how people can even begin to talk shit about other teams in our division. there was a reason we were swept last year, and i'm very happy it didn't happen again this year.

i love this team, always have always will, but people need to be realistic[/quote]Agree with "teams in the division". But Dallas is a mediocre-to-below average offensive team with a dreadful defense, and we're a mediocre-to-below average defensive team with a dreadful offense.

I would gladly trade our roster for theirs, so long as I didn't also have to take on their contracts. They're in a worse position than us in terms of payroll expenses. We have less talent and less future draft picks.

mlmdub130 12-17-2010 06:04 PM

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[quote=GTripp0012;769980]More.[/quote]

why? and i'm serious. i would like to know what you honestly think about having grossman out there. the way i see it he will forever be a number 2 at best, do you honestly think he can lead this offense in some way ala todd collins?

mlmdub130 12-17-2010 06:06 PM

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yeah i didn't mean contract wise, just talent wise.

skinsfaninok 12-17-2010 06:08 PM

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[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/12/17/the-cowboys-are-excited-for-rex-grossmans-promotion/]The Cowboys are excited for Rex Grossman’s promotion | ProFootballTalk[/url]

GTripp0012 12-17-2010 06:15 PM

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[quote=mlmdub130;769987]why? and i'm serious. i would like to know what you honestly think about having grossman out there. the way i see it he will forever be a number 2 at best, do you honestly think he can lead this offense in some way ala todd collins?[/quote]Thought we would win with McNabb. Don't think we are now going to win with Grosssman. Still, I think I know what this offense does and can do with McNabb, and Grossman plays very differently.

On a personal level, I have actually met Rex Grossman and am happy to see him getting another shot, if only for three games. The analyst in me says he sucks and that there's nothing here to see, but the football fan in me wants the analyst to be wrong. If that makes sense.

I have no expectations for Sunday, which I think makes me anticipate the game a lot more. If McNabb was playing, the expectation would have been victory over a crappy Dallas team.

GTripp0012 12-17-2010 06:17 PM

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[quote=mlmdub130;769989]yeah i didn't mean contract wise, just talent wise.[/quote]I think the contracts matter, and its' a big reason why Dallas shouldn't have an optimistic future.

Getting Romo back is going to make them an above .500 team because he's that good. And Dez Bryant looks like the truth. But every other problem they've shown this year hasn't been solved by a coaching change. Wade was never the problem there until, perhaps, the very end.

mlmdub130 12-17-2010 06:39 PM

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[quote=GTripp0012;769995]Thought we would win with McNabb. Don't think we are now going to win with Grosssman. Still, I think I know what this offense does and can do with McNabb, and Grossman plays very differently.

[B]On a personal level, I have actually met Rex Grossman and am happy to see him getting another shot, if only for three games. The analyst in me says he sucks and that there's nothing here to see, but the football fan in me wants the analyst to be wrong. If that makes sense.[/B]

I have no expectations for Sunday, which I think makes me anticipate the game a lot more. If McNabb was playing, the expectation would have been victory over a crappy Dallas team.[/quote]

i would love nothing but to be proven wrong on rex as well, just do't see it happening. i never actually got to see the one guy i wanted to see have a shot in this offense, cb5.

mlmdub130 12-17-2010 06:42 PM

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[quote=GTripp0012;769996]I think the contracts matter, and its' a big reason why Dallas shouldn't have an optimistic future.

Getting Romo back is going to make them an above .500 team because he's that good. And Dez Bryant looks like the truth. But every other problem they've shown this year hasn't been solved by a coaching change. Wade was never the problem there until, perhaps, the very end.[/quote]

i know they matter i was just speaking on talent alone, and young talent. the majority of their play makers were all drafted by the team as well, which is somehting i envy

edit: and as far as wade being the problem i think if a fan of any team can understand who/what the main culprit is in dallas i think it's a skins fan

MTK 12-17-2010 07:12 PM

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The only thing left to cap off this drama is for Rex to light up the Cowboys. You just know it's gonna happen.

Dirtbag59 12-17-2010 08:23 PM

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A quick retrospective of Redskin fans throughout the 2010 season.

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Post Dallas Game
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Mid Season
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Post Eagles Monday Night Game
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Upcoming offseason
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skinsfaninok 12-17-2010 08:26 PM

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[quote=Mattyk;770019]The only thing left to cap off this drama is for Rex to light up the Cowboys. You just know it's gonna happen.[/quote]

Honestly with that BAD Defense Dallas has, I wouldn't be shocked if Rex plays well

Dirtbag59 12-17-2010 08:30 PM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;770054]Honestly with that BAD Defense Dallas has, I wouldn't be shocked if Rex plays well[/quote]

Where McNabb's achilies heel is dirt balls, Grossmans is his consistent ability to fumble the football once every 20 snaps. That's right, not passes, snaps.

skinsfaninok 12-17-2010 08:32 PM

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[url=http://espn.go.com/blog/nfceast/post/_/id/23142/shanahans-pull-another-fast-one-bench-mcnabb]Shanahans do it again, bench McNabb - NFC East Blog - ESPN[/url]

Gmanc711 12-17-2010 09:13 PM

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[quote=Mattyk;770019]The only thing left to cap off this drama is for Rex to light up the Cowboys. You just know it's gonna happen.[/quote]

I'm fully expecting Rex to tear it up, win three straight, we're feeling great going into 2011, and he'll tank lol...

I honestly think the best thing for this franchise is probaboly to lose the last three games, and get a solid draft pick in the first and second rounds (Probaboly two picks in the top 40), try to dump McNabb for a 3rd or 4th to maybe Arizona? Hayneworth for whatever, and try to recoup a couple of those higher mid round picks we've lost and try our best to have a full draft.

MTK 12-17-2010 09:17 PM

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We should end up with a good pick, I can't see us winning more than 1 of these last 3, and losing all of them is a distinct possibility

SmootSmack 12-17-2010 09:27 PM

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[quote=GTripp0012;769995]Thought we would win with McNabb. Don't think we are now going to win with Grosssman. Still, I think I know what this offense does and can do with McNabb, and Grossman plays very differently.

On a personal level, I have actually met Rex Grossman and am happy to see him getting another shot, if only for three games. The analyst in me says he sucks and that there's nothing here to see, but the football fan in me wants the analyst to be wrong. If that makes sense.[/quote]

I hear you. Danny Wuerfell is probably the nicest athlete I've ever met, but damn if I didn't want him off the team. Part of the reason I root so much for Chase Daniel is when I got to see how good a guy he is. I've never met Grossman, but I have heard many members of the media, particularly in Chicago, say they wish Grossman was there than Cutler bc RG was always very respectful and professional even in the toughest of times

mooby 12-17-2010 09:50 PM

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Well, after reading the Dallas' players comments once they found Grossman would be starting, I'm slightly less enthusiastic about our chances, but I won't ever not watch a game simply because I disagree with a move the Redskins did. I've got 3 more Redskins games to watch before I have to wait another 8 months to see another one, so I won't pass up the opportunity. If we do lose out I won't be too disappointed, if anything I don't want Grossman to perform like a Pro Bowler so I can't get hyped up about him possibly returning next season.

SirClintonPortis 12-17-2010 11:33 PM

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I actually really believe that our offense will look better....but Dallas will come out on fire on their end.

SirClintonPortis 12-17-2010 11:36 PM

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Also, if there's one thing fantasy football is good for, it is that it shows that yards aren't as important as touchdowns. It's a fact that while McNabb has plenty of yards, all the other qbs near him in yardage ranking has more passing TDs than him. In fact, he has fewer TDs than Mark Sanchez.

GTripp0012 12-18-2010 12:27 AM

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;770112]Also, if there's one thing fantasy football is good for, it is that it shows that yards aren't as important as touchdowns. It's a fact that while McNabb has plenty of yards, all the other qbs near him in yardage ranking has more passing TDs than him. In fact, he has fewer TDs than Mark Sanchez.[/quote]The other thing is that it's not like the RBs are just vulturing TDs from him with great rushing efficiency. The touchdowns just aren't being scored.

I think that's more on the weaknesses of our receivers in the red zone and weakness of our running game than anything McNabb can control, but it's still a major issue.

SirClintonPortis 12-18-2010 12:38 AM

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[quote=GTripp0012;770116]The other thing is that it's not like the RBs are just vulturing TDs from him with great rushing efficiency. The touchdowns just aren't being scored.

I think that's more on the weaknesses of our receivers in the red zone and weakness of our running game than anything McNabb can control, but it's still a major issue.[/quote]

The underutilization of our TEs may also have something to do with it. The inaccurate short throws are at least partially on McNabb, though. His balls in the dirt though,...dare I say it, are unique to him.

Bucket 12-18-2010 03:23 AM

Re: Its Dallas Sucks Week
 
We beat Dallas

31-17.

Rex throws 3 td's

Beemnseven 12-18-2010 07:42 AM

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Looks like Kedric Golston is [URL="http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/redskins-cowboys-injury-report.html"]out.[/URL] We'll see more of Vonnie Holliday.

skins89moss 12-18-2010 08:30 AM

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[quote=Beemnseven;770136]Looks like Kedric Golston is [URL="http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/redskins-cowboys-injury-report.html"]out.[/URL] We'll see more of Vonnie Holliday.[/quote]

Oh thats wonderful I'm sure he wont be back next season. I guess we dont have many young DE on the Roster other than Jarmon. We have alot of work to do this off season on upgrading the roster cause we are old annd slow on our D-LIne and LB's.

skins89moss 12-18-2010 08:32 AM

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[quote=Bucket;770125]We beat Dallas

31-17.

Rex throws 3 td's[/quote]

We can dream right. I will be watching closely to see how we respond knowning we are looking at what players will be brought back next season.

firstdown 12-19-2010 09:25 AM

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[quote=Mattyk;770074]We should end up with a good pick, I can't see us winning more than 1 of these last 3, and losing all of them is a distinct possibility[/quote]

I'm good with 1 and 3 if the win is against Dallas. Like I said I have a $100 riding on this game. If we win my buddy owes me $100 ($50 per game) if we loose I pay nothing so I really can't loose but he is curently $400 up on me over the years. I need to get some of that back. Rex is my man for today.

SkinzWin 12-19-2010 10:59 AM

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[quote=Bucket;770125]We beat Dallas

31-17.

Rex throws 3 td's[/quote]

I agree Rex throws 3 TDs but I also predict Rex plays both ways due to injury and levels Kitna! How 'bout them apples?!?


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