Re: Plaxico out of jail; on the radar of two teams according to Rosenhaus
 

[quote=Monkeydad;808246]By the way, I shop at Giant Food. :)[/quote]....which one,if it's not owned by Royal Dutch Ahold.....doesn't matter and no they are not all the same.

Re: Plaxico out of jail; on the radar of two teams according to Rosenhaus
 

[quote=SBXVII;808219]#1- How do you think scouts became scouts?
#2- Prison changes people for better or worse.
#3- Grossman did pretty well and with better protection the team will do better.
#4- Sometimes players just don't fit the system, you would be just crapping yourself if the Skins did pick him up and he worked out better then expected.
#5- why do you care so much about the Skins?[/quote]

1) after knowing Plax's history and a scout would recomend him,.....I'd fire the scout .Vick's history in the NFL was better then Plax's and he's 33.
2) BS
3)...he's not under contract.
4)....lol that's it.
5).....It's not the Skins ,I'd say the same if it was the Iggles or Pats or Jets

Re: Plaxico out of jail; on the radar of two teams according to Rosenhaus
 

[quote=Mattyk;808220]I think you may be looking a little too far into what he said.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk[/quote]


....very possible, wasn't there and maybe I'm taking it out of context.

Re: Plaxico out of jail; on the radar of two teams according to Rosenhaus
 

[quote=Giantone;808302]1) after knowing Plax's history and a scout would recomend him,.....I'd fire the scout .Vick's history in the NFL was better then Plax's
2) BS
3)...he's not under contract.
4)....lol that's it.
5).....It's not the Skins ,I'd say the same if it was the Iggles or Pats or Jets[/quote]

1- Funny, I'm not sure if your refering to his criminal history or his practice/playing history? In either event thanks for the advise.

2- So it's BS that a person going to prison will either turn a new leaf and be good [B]or [/B]get worse based off the fact they are in jail with probably harder criminals and will learn from them? Ok, now I know you don't know what your saying.

3- Your right but he's KS's boy. So if the team does not come up with some outstanding answer to their QB issue (lol, Beck, lol) then I'd presume he will get resigned because he knows the offense better then anyone on the team. Why didn't he show it? he needed an OL.

4- So again you know better and can absolutely say no one moves to another team and turns out to be decent based off the fact they fit the scheme? Ok.

5- Your statement really makes it sound like you have a vendeta against Buress. You'd say no to anyone because in your eye's he sucks. He might, or it might be he just didn't work out in the Giants system or for the coaching staff and needs a new location. I'm not saying it works for everyone because it certainly didn't work out for AH but no one will know unless Buress is given a shot. Somewhere.

As others have said Cooley was most likely prompted to answer a question.... which WR would he prefer the Skins go after. He gave his answer. But according to you all players should simply say no comment and make sure they mention they are only worried about themselves.

Re: Plaxico out of jail; on the radar of two teams according to Rosenhaus
 

[quote=SBXVII;808308]1- Funny, I'm not sure if your refering to his criminal history or his practice/playing history? In either event thanks for the advise.

2- So it's BS that a person going to prison will either turn a new leaf and be good [B]or [/B]get worse based off the fact they are in jail with probably harder criminals and will learn from them? Ok, now I know you don't know what your saying.

3- Your right but he's KS's boy. So if the team does not come up with some outstanding answer to their QB issue (lol, Beck, lol) then I'd presume he will get resigned because he knows the offense better then anyone on the team. Why didn't he show it? he needed an OL.

4- So again you know better and can absolutely say no one moves to another team and turns out to be decent based off the fact they fit the scheme? Ok.

5- Your statement really makes it sound like you have a vendeta against Buress. You'd say no to anyone because in your eye's he sucks. He might, or it might be he just didn't work out in the Giants system or for the coaching staff and needs a new location. I'm not saying it works for everyone because it certainly didn't work out for AH but no one will know unless Buress is given a shot. Somewhere.

As others have said Cooley was most likely prompted to answer a question.... which WR would he prefer the Skins go after. He gave his answer. But according to you all players should simply say no comment and make sure they mention they are only worried about themselves.[/quote]

Only going to deal with #'s 4 and 5.

4) Never said all players,we were talking Burress can I say for certain all players no .....Burress....99.9% certain.
5)"Vendeta"....lol, no I just can't stand his ass.He got a second chance with the Giants ...then a third,he's not a good teamate, take your pick ...comes late to meetings, practice and games, will not practice with the QB during off season workouts,runs the routes he wants to run and then blames the QB.Yet now after going into debt and almost killing himself and Thank God no one else....all this wil change ....BS.Don't compare him to Vick the two are as different as night and day so are their cases,I say this to the Redskin fans becuase I thought you guys had enough of this with Hayensworth.


P.S. But according to you all players should simply say no comment and make sure they mention they are only worried about themselves.

Yeah I like that a player who only talks ...when asked.....,about himself.

Re: Plaxico out of jail; on the radar of two teams according to Rosenhaus
 

[quote=Mattyk;808220]I think you may be looking a little too far into what he said.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk[/quote]

Like I said Mattyk you might be right. I look at it like if Justin Tuck decided to talk about how in the off season Albert Hayensworth has changed and will really be a great player , without ever talking to him or any other Redskin to see if what is said about him is true.

Re: Plaxico out of jail; on the radar of two teams according to Rosenhaus
 

Marryk?

Re: Plaxico out of jail; on the radar of two teams according to Rosenhaus
 

[quote=Mattyk;808326]Marryk?[/quote]

I was thinking the same thing.

Re: Plaxico out of jail; on the radar of two teams according to Rosenhaus
 

[quote=Mattyk;808326]Marryk?[/quote]


lol....sorry ,I apologize.

Re: Plaxico out of jail; on the radar of two teams according to Rosenhaus
 

[quote=Mattyk;808326]Marryk?[/quote]

Matty is now selling beauty products to help support the warpath. To send Matty an order for yourself please send him a PM.

Re: Plaxico out of jail; on the radar of two teams according to Rosenhaus
 

[quote=Giantone;808212]Cooley is a great player,doesn't mean he knows talent,IMHO players need to stop being HC's or GM's and let the those guys do that.Cooley doesn't know Plax......he doesn't know a thing about his work habits and such,just becuase Vick did well doesn't mean Plax will, most likely the Skins are going to have a QB that is new to the system and the last thing they need is a player that doesn't run routes.[/quote]

Let's refer to Amendment 1 of the Constitution of the United States of America shall we?

"[B]Congress shall make no law[/B] respecting an establishment of religion, or [B]prohibiting the free exercise[/B] thereof; or [B]abridging the freedom of speech[/B], or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances."

BooYAH!!

Re: Plaxico out of jail; on the radar of two teams according to Rosenhaus
 

[quote=SkinzWin;808432]Let's refer to Amendment 1 of the Constitution of the United States of America shall we?

"[B]Congress shall make no law[/B] respecting an establishment of religion, or [B]prohibiting the free exercise[/B] thereof; or [B]abridging the freedom of speech[/B], or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances."

BooYAH!![/quote]


:offtopic::laughing2

Re: Plaxico out of jail; on the radar of two teams according to Rosenhaus
 

[quote=SkinzWin;808430]Matty is now selling beauty products to help support the warpath. To send Matty an order for yourself please send him a PM.[/quote]


lol......more power to him ,there is big money in that!

Re: Plaxico out of jail; on the radar of two teams according to Rosenhaus
 

[quote=SkinzWin;808432]Let's refer to Amendment 1 of the Constitution of the United States of America shall we?

"[B]Congress shall make no law[/B] respecting an establishment of religion, or [B]prohibiting the free exercise[/B] thereof; or [B]abridging the freedom of speech[/B], or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances."

BooYAH!![/quote]
What is the United States Congress again?

Re: Plaxico out of jail; on the radar of two teams according to Rosenhaus
 

[quote=SirClintonPortis;808456]What is the United States Congress again?[/quote]

Well, the long winded version takes an entire unit but I don't have time for that. And, if you want the more condensed, concise, and practically more truthful version, I would have to say the following. The United States Congress is no more than a rich, long-winded, hypocrisy of lobbyist-filled money grabbers who main goal is to get re-elected.

Re: Plaxico out of jail; on the radar of two teams according to Rosenhaus
 

[quote=Giantone;808212]Cooley is a great player,doesn't mean he knows talent,IMHO players need to stop being HC's or GM's and let the those guys do that.Cooley doesn't know Plax......he doesn't know a thing about his work habits and such,just becuase Vick did well doesn't mean Plax will, most likely the Skins are going to have a QB that is new to the system and the last thing they need is a player that doesn't run routes.[/quote]

Perhaps you can pass your sentiments on to Eli ....err maybe you should just worry about what the Giants are talking about....

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/06/27/eli-manning-giants-would-rather-have-plaxico-than-tiki/]Eli Manning: Giants would rather have Plaxico than Tiki | ProFootballTalk[/url]

[quote]
Giants quarterback [URL="http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=NFL&id=1657"][B][COLOR=#000000]Eli Manning[/COLOR][/B][/URL] said on today’s [I]Dan Patrick Show[/I] that he’d accept Burress as a teammate before he’d accept Barber as a teammate — and he thinks most of his current teammates feel the same way.
[/quote]

[quote]
“Probably Plaxico,” Manning said when asked which one would be more welcome in the Giants’ locker room. “He has probably fonder memories, winning a Super Bowl, that catch for the touchdown in Super Bowl XLII. Tiki just ended on a bad note. It’s really a shame, he should be remembered as a great Giants running back and a terrific player — because he was — but the way he went out he burned a few bridges. . . . So I think Plaxico would probably be welcomed back a little quicker.”
[/quote]

Re: Plaxico out of jail; on the radar of two teams according to Rosenhaus
 

[quote=SBXVII;808628]Perhaps you can pass your sentiments on to Eli ....err maybe you should just worry about what the Giants are talking about....

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/06/27/eli-manning-giants-would-rather-have-plaxico-than-tiki/]Eli Manning: Giants would rather have Plaxico than Tiki | ProFootballTalk[/url][/quote]

Eli is not the Giants HC or GM, he needs to shut up and worry about Eli Manning!!!! :soapbox:

LOL.

Re: Plaxico out of jail; on the radar of two teams according to Rosenhaus
 

[quote=SBXVII;808628]Perhaps you can pass your sentiments on to Eli ....err maybe you should just worry about what the Giants are talking about....

[URL="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/06/27/eli-manning-giants-would-rather-have-plaxico-than-tiki/"]Eli Manning: Giants would rather have Plaxico than Tiki | ProFootballTalk[/URL]

[/quote]

Already have but if you have read my commentary my point was that Cooley didn't know Plax before so he wouldn't know now if he had changed,Eli on the other hand knows both and at least has information to provide from a personel level.But yeah on things like that he should keep his mouth shut(IMO)

Re: Plaxico out of jail; on the radar of two teams according to Rosenhaus
 

[quote=Ruhskins;808629]Eli is not the Giants HC or GM, he needs to shut up and worry about Eli Manning!!!! :soapbox:

LOL.[/quote]

Agree with you 110%!!!:food-smil

Re: Plaxico out of jail; on the radar of two teams according to Rosenhaus
 

[quote=Ruhskins;808629]Eli is not the Giants HC or GM, he needs to shut up and worry about Eli Manning!!!! :soapbox:

LOL.[/quote]

Two words. Amendment. Uno.

LOL

Re: Plaxico out of jail; on the radar of two teams according to Rosenhaus
 

[quote=SkinzWin;808669]Two words. Amendment. Uno.

LOL[/quote]



...see post #98.lol

Re: Plaxico out of jail; on the radar of two teams according to Rosenhaus
 

[quote=SkinzWin;808432]Let's refer to Amendment 1 of the Constitution of the United States of America shall we?

"[B]Congress shall make no law[/B] respecting an establishment of religion, or [B]prohibiting the free exercise[/B] thereof; or [B]abridging the freedom of speech[/B], or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances."

BooYAH!![/quote]

Your fooling yourself, were living in a dictatorship, in which the working class.....

Re: Plaxico out of jail; on the radar of two teams according to Rosenhaus
 

[quote=SBXVII;808751]Your fooling yourself, were living in a dictatorship, in which the working class.....[/quote]

Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not some farcical aquatic ceremony.

Re: Plaxico out of jail; on the radar of two teams according to Rosenhaus
 

Ok, .....my neck hurts,I think I got whiplash.:bdh:

Re: Plaxico out of jail; on the radar of two teams according to Rosenhaus
 

Amendment 1 lets Cooley talk all he wants, but it does not grant him any credibility whatsoever. Saying ignorant and stupid things is also an exercise of that "right". Hence, an exercise of a right does not necessarily result in a beneficial outcome.

Not only that, but a person telling someone else to not talk is not legislation per se.

Re: Plaxico out of jail; on the radar of two teams according to Rosenhaus
 

[quote=SirClintonPortis;808788]Amendment 1 lets Cooley talk all he wants, but it does not grant him any credibility whatsoever. Saying ignorant and stupid things is also an exercise of that "right". Hence, an exercise of a right does not necessarily result in a beneficial outcome.

Not only that, but a person telling someone else to not talk is not legislation per se.[/quote]

What did he say that was ignorant? That he PROBABLY would be the guy you would want to take a risk on? That he PROBABLY would keep his mouth shut and work hard.

Re: Plaxico out of jail; on the radar of two teams according to Rosenhaus
 

[quote=Lotus;808753]Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not some farcical aquatic ceremony.[/quote]

[IMG]http://images2.fanpop.com/images/quiz/214000/214814_1242958044021_500_276.jpg[/IMG]

"You can't expect to wield supreme power just 'cause some watery tart threw a sword at you!"

Re: Plaxico out of jail; on the radar of two teams according to Rosenhaus
 

[quote=mlmpetert;806217]Will a 34 year old reciever that just got out of jail be able to contribute at all? I dont see a problem having him here for camp to see if he can do anything still, but i dont think there will be camp. I would much rather give a roster spot to one of the many young guys we got or bring back Marko Mitchell.

I mean once the season start his career is done right? I dont see him making it with anyone[/quote]

Was just reading an article on Marko Mitchell....the WR with four catches in ten games trying to figure out why he was cut.

[url=http://dcprosportsreport.com/2011/06/08/redskins-plaxico-burress-not-made-for-each-other/]Redskins & Plaxico Burress not made for each other « DC Pro Sports Report | Washington Redskins, Washington Capitals, Washington Wizards, and Washington Nationals news source![/url]

Re: Plaxico out of jail; on the radar of two teams according to Rosenhaus
 

[quote=Longtimefan;809325]Was just reading an article on Marko Mitchell....the WR with four catches in ten games trying to figure out why he was cut.

[URL="http://dcprosportsreport.com/2011/06/08/redskins-plaxico-burress-not-made-for-each-other/"]Redskins & Plaxico Burress not made for each other « DC Pro Sports Report | Washington Redskins, Washington Capitals, Washington Wizards, and Washington Nationals news source![/URL][/quote]


This is what I was alluding to when I said Cooley should keep his comments to himself,he just doesn't know what went on with the other teams so he can't know if he has changed.
"

Finally, there is the question of Burress’ character. Could he come out of prison a changed man, determined to live a life on the straight and narrow, devoted to football for as long as possible? Sure. But it isn’t likely. The Steelers let Burress go even though he was a valuable receiver because of his terrible work habits and refusal to be a team player. The Giants signed him despite these problems, but Burress missed so many practices and other team functions that the Giants fined him in excess of $100,000 during his time with the team."

Re: Plaxico out of jail; on the radar of two teams according to Rosenhaus
 

I'm not saying he didn't deserve the fines, but dude.... the Giants HC is a tirant. He fined just about everyone. I think it all depends on how bad a team needs a player at any specific position. As an example, Inwouldn't recommend anyone picking up Haynesworth. Let him rot after getting cut, but the Eagles have a need and are interested so because the Skins hold his rights I'd say let's see what we can get. AH is just as lazy, but that won't stop teams from being interested thinking they can get something out of him that the Skins couldn't.