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[quote=Mattyk;808065]What if your blocking someone incited a road rager who then swerves to get around you and hits another car? It's possible your actions could lead to a dangerous situation.[/quote]


I have to agree with Matty. S10's actions are making him a distracted driver.

I get really upset when I see folks texting and driving so much so I would "look" for them and then blow my horn. My wife pointed out you are just as distracted as them by trying to police them vs. just paying attention to your own driving. I agreed with her and now I just go about my way and stay alert to my own driving.

Doing anything other then watching the road make you a distracted driver.

S10 what you are doing makes you distracted driver. You are looking for speeders then you are trying to slow them down. Your adrenaline is going and you are focused on slowing them down vs. giving 100% of your attention to your own driving. Been there with done that I know it is dangerous.

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[quote=SmootSmack;808071]Was his license ever suspended or revoked? I mean you get ticketed for reckless driving so many times wouldn't it stand to reason that at some point he just wouldn't be allowed to drive anymore?[/quote]

Apparently 23 times is not enough to take your licenses away.

[url=http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/167876/20110622/ryan-dunn-drunk-driving-record-revealed-roger-ebert-pennsylvania-jackass-reality-tv-star-speed.htm]Shocking details of Ryan Dunn's driving record revealed - Entertainment & Stars[/url]

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And for the record I've never encountered that situation, and I've been Schneed the Road Vigilante for quite some time.

But getting back to the crux of the discussion, at some level, everyone does something at some point in their lives that somehow endangers others. I left the baby gate unsecured one time and my daughter almost took a header down the stairs. I block the left lane while driving which I guess could THEORETICALLY magnify the probability of a road rage incident. Some women put on make-up in the car when running late, on occasion. etc. etc. etc. Are any of these things good? No.

But the risk Ryan Dunn represented to other drivers was so great that in my mind it outweighed whatever positives he brought to the table in his life. Will his family see it that way? Of course not, because they loved him and felt that emotional connection. But strip away the emotions, and the West Chester area is better off.

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[quote=mredskins;808072]I have to agree with Matty. S10's actions are making him a distracted driver.

I get really upset when I see folks texting and driving so much so I would "look" for them and then blow my horn. My wife pointed out you are just as distracted as them by trying to police them vs. just paying attention to your own driving. I agreed with her and now I just go about my way and stay alert to my own driving.

Doing anything other then watching the road make you a distracted driver.

S10 what you are doing makes you distracted driver. You are looking for speeders then you are trying to slow them down. Your adrenaline is going and you are focused on slowing them down vs. giving 100% of your attention to your own driving. Been there with done that I know it is dangerous.[/quote]

Well said.

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[quote=SmootSmack;808071]Was his license ever suspended or revoked? I mean you get ticketed for reckless driving so many times wouldn't it stand to reason that at some point he just wouldn't be allowed to drive anymore?[/quote]

He had his license suspended several times and was still caught driving recklessly.

That's the part that's so egregious. There was no regard for the legal system, let alone regard for trying to do the right thing.

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[quote=mredskins;808073]Apparently 23 times is not enough to take your licenses away.

[url=http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/167876/20110622/ryan-dunn-drunk-driving-record-revealed-roger-ebert-pennsylvania-jackass-reality-tv-star-speed.htm]Shocking details of Ryan Dunn's driving record revealed - Entertainment & Stars[/url][/quote]

Thanks for the info

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[quote=Schneed10;808074]And for the record I've never encountered that situation, and I've been Schneed the Road Vigilante for quite some time.

But getting back to the crux of the discussion, at some level, everyone does something at some point in their lives that somehow endangers others. I left the baby gate unsecured one time and my daughter almost took a header down the stairs. I block the left lane while driving which I guess could THEORETICALLY magnify the probability of a road rage incident. Some women put on make-up in the car when running late, on occasion. etc. etc. etc. Are any of these things good? No.

But the risk Ryan Dunn represented to other drivers was so great that in my mind it outweighed whatever positives he brought to the table in his life. Will his family see it that way? Of course not, because they loved him and felt that emotional connection. But strip away the emotions, and the West Chester area is better off.[/quote]

I agree that is crux of the discussion we have all done things to endanger others but Ryan Dunn was a habitual offender when it came to endangering others on the road. Look at at my link above he 23 citations, how often was he driving dangerously to be caught 23 times!

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[quote=mredskins;808072]I have to agree with Matty. S10's actions are making him a distracted driver.

I get really upset when I see folks texting and driving so much so I would "look" for them and then blow my horn. My wife pointed out you are just as distracted as them by trying to police them vs. just paying attention to your own driving. I agreed with her and now I just go about my way and stay alert to my own driving.

Doing anything other then watching the road make you a distracted driver.

S10 what you are doing makes you distracted driver. You are looking for speeders then you are trying to slow them down. Your adrenaline is going and you are focused on slowing them down vs. giving 100% of your attention to your own driving. Been there with done that I know it is dangerous.[/quote]

I'm not really looking for anybody, and I certainly don't feel any adrenaline. I simply camp out in the left lane when people are trying to speed, and I keep my speed constant at 75. I don't seek them out and swerve in front of them, it's not some big battle, it's much more of a passive thing. I simply drive 75 in the left lane and those who don't like it can shove it.

But this is getting away from the crux of the argument. I'll grant you that yes I suppose there's the remote possibility that I could anger someone, thus nominally magnifying the probability that an accident occurs. While I've never encountered such a thing, rather than tempting fate, maybe I'll rethink doing that and instead just get out of the way.

But Ryan Dunn never learned from any mistake. He didn't care, he just kept doing it. It made him a real and significant threat on the roads. Now that he's gone, it's safer for everyone.

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Seriously though we need football back we are all on edge.

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[quote=mredskins;808080]Seriously though we need football back we are all on edge.[/quote]

No kidding.

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[quote=mredskins;808080]Seriously though we need football back we are all on edge.[/quote]

Sounds like there will be a salary/cash cap under this new CBA. If I get back to working on those numbers instead of getting up in arms about Ryan Dunn, it's just better for everybody!

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I came back to this thread an hour or so later and it's three more pages deep lol.

Schneed, I know you truly feel that way. I am not saying you don't. But I am saying you like to push buttons too. You knew the mainstream member's opinion would be different than yours and you would get replies.

I am kind of the same way too.

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Oh yeah. Let's hope football resumes soon!

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[quote=Schneed10;808079][B]I'm not really looking for anybody, and I certainly don't feel any adrenaline. I simply camp out in the left lane when people are trying to speed, and I keep my speed constant at 75. I don't seek them out and swerve in front of them, it's not some big battle, it's much more of a passive thing. I simply drive 75 in the left lane and those who don't like it can shove it.[/B]

But this is getting away from the crux of the argument. I'll grant you that yes I suppose there's the remote possibility that I could anger someone, thus nominally magnifying the probability that an accident occurs. While I've never encountered such a thing, rather than tempting fate, maybe I'll rethink doing that and instead just get out of the way.

But Ryan Dunn never learned from any mistake. He didn't care, he just kept doing it. It made him a real and significant threat on the roads. Now that he's gone, it's safer for everyone.[/quote]

Look not to rehash a old thread but I have listen to you for nearly 6 years and 73 hundred post and I considered you one the folks I like on here (I know quit a honor!) with that said I have decent understating of your personality. With that knowledge I find it hard to beleive if a speeder is in your rear view mirror with you going 75 in the left lane that your adrenaline is not pumping and you have now become a distracted drive. I do/did the exact same thing with folks texting and driving. Both you and me are/were trying to police the roads when in reality we were becoming dangerous drivers by doing so. Good intentions on both our parts end result though was we are distracted drivers thus making us a danger to the road.

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Wow the first time I may actually join the Westboro group for a public demonstration.


[url=http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/167269/20110621/ryan-dunn-death-dead-westboro-baptist-church-protest-public-service-memorial.htm]Ryan Dunn Death: Westboro Baptist Church Threatens Service Protest - Entertainment & Stars[/url]

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[quote=mredskins;808085]Look not to rehash a old thread but I have listen to you for nearly 6 years and 73 hundred post and I considered you one the folks I like on here (I know quit a honor!) with that said I have decent understating of your personality. With that knowledge I find it hard to beleive if a speeder is in your rear view mirror with you going 75 in the left lane that your adrenaline is not pumping and you have now become a distracted drive. I do/did the exact same thing with folks texting and driving. Both you and me are/were trying to police the roads when in reality we were becoming dangerous drivers by doing so. Good intentions on both our parts end result though was we are distracted drivers thus making us a danger to the road.[/quote]

The big difference though is Ryan Dunn was a scruffy looking douche while I'm incredibly handsome.

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[quote=hooskins;808083]I came back to this thread an hour or so later and it's three more pages deep lol.

Schneed, I know you truly feel that way. I am not saying you don't. But I am saying you like to push buttons too. You knew the mainstream member's opinion would be different than yours and you would get replies.

I am kind of the same way too.[/quote]

True. The most interesting discussions are the most spirited ones, when opinions are strong and varied. Those just happen to be the ones I gravitate to.

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[quote=Schneed10;808063]I probably have not described my "blocking" techniques on the road adequately enough. I'm not swerving in front of people when they change lanes. [B]I just camp out in the left lane and refuse to go above 75.[/B] It doesn't feel dangerous in the least.[/quote]

camp out? so you intentionally sit in the left lane so people behind you have to try and go around you?

You probably poses a greater threat to others on the roadway than a driver with a .09 bac doing the speed limit in the right lane.

I dont like going 75 either, but if i got a long line of cars behind me and im going the same speed as the lane to my right, i get over.

your quite they asshole to impose your set of beliefs on others, at their peril and all the other cars around you.

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[quote=Schneed10;808088]The big difference though is Ryan Dunn was a scruffy looking douche while I'm incredibly handsome.[/quote]


Well if we are just going to state the obvious what is the point of this discussion, christ! :)

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[quote=over the mountain;808091]camp out? so you intentionally sit in the left lane so people behind you have to try and go around you?

You probably poses a greater threat to others on the roadway than a driver with a .09 bac doing the speed limit in the right lane.

I dont like going 75 either, but if i got a long line of cars behind me and im going the same speed as the lane to my right, i get over.

your quite they asshole to impose your set of beliefs on others, at their peril and all the other cars around you.[/quote]


no! oh no! it is starting all over again. Make it stop make it stop!

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S10 's time will come...like my granddaddy use to say "sooner or later stupid actions catch up to you."

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You know what we need right now? Jsarno to jump on this thread and let us know what the odds are and how to beat them

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LOL that was the best thread. the how to beat vegas thread....:doh:

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Hey, Schneed, what are you thoughts on motorcycles again? May as well get all of "your" topics in here...

(Please don't...)


:D

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Schneed's personal hell. He's heading home after hanging out at a friend's house watching the game...and he sees some girl weaving in and out of traffic on a motorcycle. He tries to block her but she gets by. So he follows her and when she pulls into a gas station he's right behind her. She gets off her bike and takes her helmet off. As Schneed approaches her he can smell traces of alcohol. She turns around...and it's Hess!

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[quote=smootsmack;808102]schneed's personal hell. He's heading home after hanging out at a friend's house watching the game...and he sees some girl weaving in and out of traffic on a motorcycle. He tries to block her but she gets by. So he follows her and when she pulls into a gas station he's right behind her. She gets off her bike and takes her helmet off. As schneed approaches her he can smell traces of alcohol. She turns around...and it's hess![/quote]

lol.........

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[quote=mredskins;808073]Apparently 23 times is not enough to take your licenses away.

[url=http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/167876/20110622/ryan-dunn-drunk-driving-record-revealed-roger-ebert-pennsylvania-jackass-reality-tv-star-speed.htm]Shocking details of Ryan Dunn's driving record revealed - Entertainment & Stars[/url][/quote]

When you have money and fame, the rules don't apply to you.

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[quote=SmootSmack;808102]Schneed's personal hell. He's heading home after hanging out at a friend's house watching the game...and he sees some girl weaving in and out of traffic on a motorcycle. He tries to block her but she gets by. So he follows her and when she pulls into a gas station he's right behind her. She gets off her bike and takes her helmet off. As Schneed approaches her he can smell traces of alcohol. She turns around...and it's Hess![/quote]

HAHAHAHAA! With Jsarno on the back asking me if I want to go to Vegas with them.

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We've all got our things, might as well be able to laugh at yourself.

firstdown: great spellers of the world, UNTIE!
Matty: eh whatever, dude
12thman: aw isn't he sweet
saden1: I like beer, here's 5000 links why
FRPLG: can I please be a mod? please please can I?
smootsmack: my sources tell me...
hess: put on this earth to annoy Schneed
jsarno: birthed by hess to annoy Schneed even more
and Schneed: maybe a little opinionated. every once in a while

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[quote=Schneed10;808116]We've all got our things, might as well be able to laugh at yourself.

[B]firstdown: great spellers of the world, UNTIE![/B]
Matty: eh whatever, dude
12thman: aw isn't he sweet
saden1: I like beer, here's 5000 links why
FRPLG: can I please be a mod? please please can I?
smootsmack: my sources tell me...
hess: put on this earth to annoy Schneed
jsarno: birthed by hess to annoy Schneed even more
and Schneed: maybe a little opinionated. every once in a while[/quote]

:laughing2 :lol: :rofl:

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That's actually a pretty accurate characterization of the gang.

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[quote=Schneed10;808054]But can you mount any rational argument that the world is not better off?

Sure you can be emotionally appalled at the thought, but can you refute the logic? Your moral reaction to these statements really doesn't get you anywhere. I'm personally not interested in how anybody feels about Ryan Dunn, nor am I interested in how anybody feels about my reaction to Ryan Dunn's death.

Feelings don't interest me, I just like to be right. And I am here. So don't bother with the moral high horse nonsense because nobody cares, convince me that it's wrong to say the road is safer with Ryan Dunn dead.[/quote]

First of all, the only one on a high horse here is you (shocker).

Secondly, if you don't care what anyone thinks about your feelings towards Ryan Dunn and his death, why do you post said feelings and react to people's reactions?

Third, I'm not here to convince you of anything. I don't like that people are happy about his death, but that's on them. You're playing the "I'm the asshole for the sake of being the asshole" card (again, shocker), and I don't really care for it. It's whatever.

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[quote=Schneed10;808116]We've all got our things, might as well be able to laugh at yourself.

firstdown: great spellers of the world, UNTIE!
Matty: eh whatever, dude
12thman: aw isn't he sweet
saden1: I like beer, here's 5000 links why
FRPLG: can I please be a mod? please please can I?
smootsmack: my sources tell me...
hess: put on this earth to annoy Schneed
jsarno: birthed by hess to annoy Schneed even more
and Schneed: maybe a little opinionated. every once in a while[/quote]

I would like to personally thank you for leaving me out of that.

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[quote=NC_Skins;808109]When you have money and fame, the rules don't apply to you.[/quote]

I'm in the insurance business and when I first started out I did allot of business with used car lots writing ins for people so they could buy the car. I saw driving records that took pages to print out and at the end it would say valid lic. I had one that took 24 pages to print out but His lic had jsu been revoked. How he even still had a lic I don't understand. So the drivning record thing is not reserved for the rich.

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When I worked in no-fault I saw tons of horrible driving records where you wondered how they could still be on the road, they get raped when it comes to premiums so I guess that's why they're still driving.

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[quote=GMScud;808125]First of all, the only one on a high horse here is you (shocker).

Secondly, if you don't care what anyone thinks about your feelings towards Ryan Dunn and his death, why do you post said feelings and react to people's reactions?

Third, I'm not here to convince you of anything. I don't like that people are happy about his death, but that's on them. You're playing the "I'm the asshole for the sake of being the asshole" card (again, shocker), and I don't really care for it. It's whatever.[/quote]

I initially posted I was glad, but as you surely noticed backed down from that, because when I thought about it I really had no emotional reaction at all.

So ultimately, I'm not posting any feelings. I'm posting thoughts. Which is what one does on a thoughtful discussion board. If I want to sit around and sing kum ba yah about everyone's feelings, I'll attend my wife's wine club.

I'm also not being an asshole for its own sake. I'm just being right. If that makes me an asshole then OK, I never really cared about that label.

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[quote=Mattyk;808144]When I worked in no-fault I saw tons of horrible driving records where you wondered how they could still be on the road, they get raped when it comes to premiums so I guess that's why they're still driving.[/quote]

The one that was 24 pages I thought I may have hit print several times. Its like the guy got a ticket evertime he looked at a car. It was so bad the computer could not even rate the policy.