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Can't be cut until Thursday

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Put me in the Vince column.

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[quote=SmootSmack;814627]EDIT: Vince Young is now very much back in play. Nothing can happen of course before he gets cut but he's once again a strong possibility[/quote]

That would be a nice pick-up.

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Yeah let's see. I have a feeling some teams that are acting like they're not interested will be placing a call to Young in the next couple of days

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[quote=SolidSnake84;814607]I'm a little confused on the signing of Clemens, who has been a career-back up thus far in the NFL. That leaves us with John Beck, also a backup, and Rex Grossman, who is now the only proven NFL starter on our QB chart.

I want to ask the veteran members here why the Redskins didnt go after a starting caliber Free Agent QB? Someone like Matt Hasselbeck, or Marc Bulger? I think Bulger is finished but he has tons of starting expereince, and I could see him lasting here for one year while we prepare for the future.

Is the answer just as simple as Mike Shanahan beleives that he can win with these guys? Does this make Rex the favorite to start??[/quote]

We have broached the subject in various other threads and basically came to the conclusion that due to the unusual circumstances this off-season has presented, there are no viable options at the QB position that could come in on short notice and perform any better than the options we already have.

The same rationale can be applied to the signing of W/R we've signed thus far. I'm convinced the team is looking for a long term answer at the QB position and don't feel the answer would come in this off-season and weren't in a hurry to repeat the mistake of last season. We don't need anymore placeholders, we have a couple of them in place already. The next serious QB move should be one with a lasting affect, not someone for a year and be gone. We're working on three for three now and we're not satisfied with what we have, so in all probability next year we'll be four for four. Hard to have any sustained success that way.

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wow so now VY is a possibility again?

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I d take Young over anyone we have right now

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[quote=skinsfaninok;814727]I d take Young over anyone we have right now[/quote]

Sad to say but me too.

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Rex Grossman is way better than Vince Young he can actually throw the football.

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Unbelievable, didn't we learn our lesson from Haynesworth? no more disgruntled, work-ethic challenged Titans

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Jason Campbell for Vince Young ? Who would you rather have?
I have been a support of JC since he has been here but today I come to realize that JC is not suited for the WC offense. If we let JC walk at the end of the year who do we have as our starter? I think the Titans would be willing to let Vince Young go for the right compensation so would you rather make a deal for Young or Keep Jason Campbell ( Soup to some of you)?
Do we spend a 1st round pick on a collage QB? How long will he sit or start right away. No matter who coaches we will need a QB next year.
I think Young needs a new start and I like his athletic ability. I MADE THIS POST ON 11-21-2010 . LOOK at our QB situation now, no Jason Campbell or McNasty. We gave up a 2nd, 3rd, and 4th for rd pick for McNasty. I think we have nothing to lose by bringing in Vince Young for a chance to compete for a QB job. all he does is win.
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^For the right price, bring him in, make him earn his money, and have his replacement waiting in the wings before his contract is up. This team has to start thinking forward.

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[quote=skins89moss;814830]Jason Campbell for Vince Young ? Who would you rather have?
I have been a support of JC since he has been here but today I come to realize that JC is not suited for the WC offense. If we let JC walk at the end of the year who do we have as our starter? I think the Titans would be willing to let Vince Young go for the right compensation so would you rather make a deal for Young or Keep Jason Campbell ( Soup to some of you)?
Do we spend a 1st round pick on a collage QB? How long will he sit or start right away. No matter who coaches we will need a QB next year.
I think Young needs a new start and I like his athletic ability. I MADE THIS POST ON 11-21-2010 . LOOK at our QB situation now, no Jason Campbell or McNasty. We gave up a 2nd, 3rd, and 4th for rd pick for McNasty. I think we have nothing to lose by bringing in Vince Young for a chance to compete for a QB job. all he does is win.
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Actually we didn't give up a 3rd and a 4th for McNabb, only one was sent to the Eagles, and the other was sent to the Saints for Jammal Brown.

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[quote=jonny5dicky;814819]Rex Grossman is way better than Vince Young he can actually throw the football.[/quote]

Vince Young can't throw the football? What the heck's he doing playing quarterback then?

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You have many options at QB next season, many potential goodies in the mid to lower picks in the first round or ones that might go in the top of the second round just in case we go around .500 this season. I would love for us to get Kellen Moore. That guy has a cannon!!!!! I do not think we will do so bad to garner a real shot at the elite though. I am thinking someone that is good, but will be under the radar. ANy SEC or Big Ten QB should be a good choice. If Dan Persa stays healthy he might be a very good pickup if he is available for us. He should garner great stats like in 2010, but with the addition of Nebraska and a resurgent Michigan, the Wildcats will be lucky to go bowling in Jan.

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[quote=steveo395;814028]Clemens is terrible. He's either going to be the 3rd QB or not make the team[/quote]


A wasted signing. Shoot if you were going to sign someone like that, might as well have signed Frerotte to a one year deal. Shoot he did a decent job subbing for Jackson in 2008. If he has anything left in the tank and is healthy, he would have been a better signing than this guy!!

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[quote=GusFrerotte;815780]A wasted signing. Shoot if you were going to sign someone like that, might as well have signed Frerotte to a one year deal. Shoot he did a decent job subbing for Jackson in 2008. If he has anything left in the tank and is healthy, he would have been a better signing than this guy!![/quote]

Alright Gus stop pulling your own whistle and retire already. I think you're still experiencing side effects from the headbutt celebration back in like '98 or whenever.

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I've never seen an average player get so much run. A guy from 10+ years ago too no less. The Gus references are beyond stale at this point.

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[IMG]http://www.deuceofdavenport.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/frerotteheadbutt.gif[/IMG]

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[quote=Mattyk;815940]I've never seen an average player get so much run. A guy from 10+ years ago too no less. The Gus references are beyond stale at this point.[/quote]

Maybe in ten years I will make references to Colt Brennan every single time I can. LOL.

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I'll still be talking about Chase Daniel...believe dat!

And Matt Moore if we sign him...which we won't...so I guess I'll just stay sexy like rexy

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[quote=skins89moss;814830]Jason Campbell for Vince Young ? Who would you rather have?
I have been a support of JC since he has been here but today I come to realize that JC is not suited for the WC offense. If we let JC walk at the end of the year who do we have as our starter? I think the Titans would be willing to let Vince Young go for the right compensation so would you rather make a deal for Young or Keep Jason Campbell ( Soup to some of you)?
Do we spend a 1st round pick on a collage QB? How long will he sit or start right away. No matter who coaches we will need a QB next year.
I think Young needs a new start and I like his athletic ability. I MADE THIS POST ON 11-21-2010 . LOOK at our QB situation now, no Jason Campbell or McNasty. We gave up a 2nd, 3rd, and 4th for rd pick for McNasty.[B] I think we have nothing to lose by bringing in Vince Young for a chance to compete for a QB job. all he does is win.[/B]
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You do realize at the time you posted this that Vince Young had already signed with Philly...

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[quote=SmootSmack;816029]..so I guess I'll just stay sexy like rexy[/quote]

Why haven't we resigned him yet? I'm kind of surprised.

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Not much of a rush really. I don't believe he could even suit up and practice before the 4th. But, I hear he may actually sign tonight or tomorrow. Either way, he'll be back. I'm not worried

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So what is the word on Kyle Orton? Now that Miami is seemingly out of that race, or so it is being reported, where does he end up? Would the Skins take a chance on him or is Denver just asking too much for him?

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It's not that Denver is looking for too much, it's Orton that wants a lot of guaranteed money from Miami, and the Dolphins don't seem quite ready to guarantee he will be QB1.

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/29/orton-dolphins-and-broncos-continue-complicated-stare-down/]Orton, Dolphins, and Broncos continue complicated stare down | ProFootballTalk[/url]

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[quote=NC_Skins;816047]Why haven't we resigned him yet? I'm kind of surprised.[/quote]

Don't worry:

[URL="http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/redskins-watch/2011/jul/29/mcnabb-gone-kyle-shanahan-eager-qb-competition/"]With McNabb gone, Kyle Shanahan eager for QB competition - Washington Times[/URL]
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Kyle Shanahan versus Donovan McNabb is sooooo 2010. Shanahan's smile said it all Friday morning at the Redskins' first full training camp practice. With McNabb on his way to Minnesota in a trade, Shanahan was eager to begin the quarterback competition between John Beck and Rex Grossman.

"I think it will be a great battle," Shanahan, the Redskins' offensive coordinator, said after practice. "I think that they’re both capable of it. Rex showed that he’s capable last year. John has shown that he’s capable in practice and what he’s done in his college tape and the few opportunities he has had in the NFL. I’m excited for them to finally get a shot together."

Beck begins with a major advantage because, well, he's actually at Redskins Park practicing with the team. Grossman, meanwhile, is still a free agent. And even if Grossman re-signs--which Shanahan said he expects--new league rules prohibit him from practicing with the team on the field until Thursday, Aug. 4.

For now, Shanahan will focus on evaluating Beck. The Redskins traded for him last August, leaving him little time to learn the playbook. He then spent the season as the No. 3 quarterback and exclusively ran scout team plays in practice in all but the final two weeks of the regular season.
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^^Thanks for that link!

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Should be interesting to see how it plays out. I don't understand the rule that prohibits Grossman from practicing until 4 August. Especially with this shortened offseason - doesn't seem to make much sense.

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The Aug. 4th date is based on the union reforming and the new CBA being complete and approved by the players. It is a protection of sorts for the owners that makes sure that the union keeps it part of the bargain and gets all the players on board so that nothing goes haywire

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Wow. I just dont understand. They cleared out cap room for this? I Carson Palmer st disgruntled in Cincy?

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[quote=Mattyk;815940]I've never seen an average player get so much run. A guy from 10+ years ago too no less. The Gus references are beyond stale at this point.[/quote]


Average maybe, but he did make the pro Bowl Matty. He is better than Kellen Clemens for sure. Besides, the whole Gus Frerotte thing is all a joke. The problem is that he is far from the worst Qb we have had start for us since his stint here. I mean he was our starter for most of 4 seasons. Beck was shipped around to 3 teams in almost that same time span if I am not mistaken. You better hope that Rexy doesn't take a nasty hit or spill, or this season is a wash.

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One reason I'm giving up on this season is Kyle Shanahan. They plan on signing Rex...seriously?