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Bums?

smh

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I love the move ... not many highlights but he's only been in the league 3 years and is used to sharing the load with other RBs.

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[quote=Mattyk;817491]Bums?

smh[/quote]

You said it yourself, "roll with the guys" already on the squad.

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[quote=diehard;817496]You said it yourself, "roll with the guys" already on the squad.[/quote]

I thought we were talking about free agents?

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[quote=Mattyk;817497]I thought we were talking about free agents?[/quote]

This is a RB thread though. The Bradshaw thread was closed :rolleyes:

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[quote=diehard;817501]This is a RB thread though. The Bradshaw thread was closed :rolleyes:[/quote]

You mentioned FA bums, so I assumed you were talking about the likes of Bowen, Cofield, etc.

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Wow! We just got one hell of a player right there. Been watching him since his Freshman year at the University of Richmond. Too cool that he's a Skin now.

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How is cofield and bowen Bums?

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[quote=skinsfaninok;817506]How is cofield and bowen Bums?[/quote]

Ask diehard.

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[quote=Chico23231;817382]I think you get no arguement hes a back up. Hes not a starter but a guy who will touch the ball 10 times a game and come in a pass block (i.e. Portis entire value last year).

His best value will be this: he will get the ball at the goalline and SCORE, we've had a little problem with that for awhile.[/quote]

That's my feeling -- I don't know if you remember a few years back when Gibbs came back and whenever we got inside the 10, we could not score to save our life. It would be like 1st and goal from the 3 and we would end up getting pushed back to the 12 and having to settle for a 25-30 yd field, goal -- Hightower gets us those TDs

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I mean my gosh they aren't Albert Haynesworth or anything...... OH wait

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[quote=Mattyk;817491]Bums?

smh[/quote]

Don't listen to diehard, his avatar is Fat Albert
(said the guy with DMac as his avatar)

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23 Rushing TD's in 3 years? Pretty solid

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[quote=skinsfaninok;817522]23 Rushing TD's in 3 years? Pretty solid[/quote]

In an RB by committee system with 65% passing plays during the time he was there (2008-2010) which was third highest in the league for that span

[url=http://www.revengeofthebirds.com/2011/6/13/2221102/arizona-cardinals-playcalling-trends]Arizona Cardinals Playcalling Trends - Revenge of the Birds[/url]

I think he is really underrated and love the pickup

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I've seen many Cards fans pissed about losing him

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solid... i imagine torain, helu, and hightower make the cut, and we got brown too. no need for big money on bradshaw etc, big money rbs don't usually get you value. and paying DW over 8mill per would be stupid, especially when he ends up back on IR by miseason.

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Holliday was gunna be a backup, I bet Hightower will be too...but he's like a decade younger AND on a team with no QB passing threat...a CRITICAL need....so...I am LOVING this trade...quite wise....a legit running threat...we could use a legit receiving threat too.

If this shows insight to the minds of Shanny and Allen...perhaps they were thinking draft a ton of playmakers RB and WR....and grab one vet playmaker of each to buy us time until they develop...I just don't know if Gaffney is considered enough of a threat as a WR...he certainly doesn't seem to be more of one than our existing Moss....unlike the RB position...therefore, I think our odds of going after a #1 WR have just increased quite a bit.

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[quote=skinsnut;817566]Holliday was gunna be a backup, I bet Hightower will be too...but he's like a decade younger AND on a team with no QB passing threat...a CRITICAL need....so...I am LOVING this trade...quite wise....a legit running threat...we could use a legit receiving threat too.

If this shows insight to the minds of Shanny and Allen...perhaps they were thinking draft a ton of playmakers RB and WR....and grab one vet playmaker of each to buy us time until they develop...I just don't know if Gaffney is considered enough of a threat as a WR...he certainly doesn't seem to be more of one than our existing Moss....unlike the RB position...therefore, I think our odds of going after a #1 WR have just increased quite a bit.[/quote]

I think this trade will prove to be a good thing for us after this season. We gave up Holliday, who brings leadership to the team but not much else, and the conditional pick all depends on how Hightower performs. If he performs good, the Cards get adequate compensation. If he performs bad, they get minimal compensation. It works out for both sides in the end, especially since Hightower didn't have much of a future in AZ with Ryan Williams and Beanie Wells.

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[quote=tomsawyer;817309]if he comes out of camp uninjured,hightower will be the starting qb week 1.[/quote]


Hilarious!!!!!!!!

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[quote=diehard;817480][B]I just hope a couple of these FA bums they've signed will have decent ratings in Madden 12. Same goes for Beck[/B].

Why did they draft all those RBs and WRs in the draft again? Looks like they should've targeted some OL and maybe [gasp] a QB!?[/quote]

Yeah me too. Eff that winning sh*t. :frusty:

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Surprised by this signing did not see us adding someone of his caliber. I dont like giving up any draft picks but at least we got a productive young player for an older player and a pick

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[quote=GTripp0012;817360]Uh, okay, sure!

I think you can list the additions we've made this offseason who will still be Redskins in 2014 on one hand, but great![/quote]

Negative nancy. 2014 is 4 seasons from now, most teams have a lot of turnover in that time period.

Brown - starter
Chester - starter
Hightower - possible starter
Wilson - starter
Bowen - starter
Cofield - starter
Kerrigan - starter
Hankerson - starter
Jenkins - 3rd DE
Otogwe - starter

I say that we have had a pretty damn good offseason/draft

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[quote=Chico23231;817572]Yeah me too. Eff that winning sh*t. :frusty:[/quote]

Yeah got to get my team right on Madden so I can go for it on 4th and 24 on my own 4.

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[quote=GTripp0012;817360]Uh, okay, sure!

I think you can list the additions we've made this offseason who will still be Redskins in 2014 on one hand, but great![/quote]

You should run the team.

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[quote=diehard;817480]I just hope a couple of these FA bums they've signed will have decent ratings in Madden 12. Same goes for Beck.

Why did they draft all those RBs and WRs in the draft again? Looks like they should've targeted some OL and maybe [gasp] a QB!?[/quote]

Can't confirm this so don't read into it too much, but I think Beck's rating will be around a 67 in this year's Madden. Enjoy.

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[quote=mooby;817594]Can't confirm this so don't read into it too much, but I think Beck's rating will be around a 67 in this year's Madden. Enjoy.[/quote]

That's why Rexy will be my starter

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;817595]That's why Rexy will be my starter[/quote]

Haha werd. I'm excited to see the changes they've made to franchise mode, although I'm not happy they weren't able to implement a rookie scale. It'll be interesting to see if in franchise mode it's not about putting the top rated player on the field anymore.

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[quote=Brody81;817591]You should run the team.[/quote]

Thank you

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[quote=mooby;817597]Haha werd. I'm excited to see the changes they've made to franchise mode, although I'm not happy they weren't able to implement a rookie scale. It'll be interesting to see if in franchise mode it's not about putting the top rated player on the field anymore.[/quote]

well, back when they still had a pc version (08?) you could cut all your draft picks (not sign them) and then get them the first day of FA at stupid stupid low prices (like 70% off), or switch their position and then sign them long term before switching them back... Madden is full of cheese.

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[quote=That Guy;817611]well, back when they still had a pc version (08?) you could cut all your draft picks (not sign them) and then get them the first day of FA at stupid stupid low prices (like 70% off), or switch their position and then sign them long term before switching them back... Madden is full of cheese.[/quote]

I never took advantage of that, although I used to take advantage every year of turning the trade deadline off and then trading my picks for a horrible teams' picks at the end of the year so I could draft whoever I wanted.

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[quote=tryfuhl;817606]Thank you[/quote]

Your welcome.

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[quote=mooby;817617]I never took advantage of that, although I used to take advantage every year of turning the trade deadline off and then trading my picks for a horrible teams' picks at the end of the year so I could draft whoever I wanted.[/quote]

Oh you cheater.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;817621]Oh you cheater.[/quote]

Psh that wasn't even the worst of it. Back in the day on the PS2 I used to turn offsides off so I could get a head start on my pass rush. All my LB's and D-linemen used to average like 20 sacks every season haha. I'd do that today if they hadn't changed it so you can't.

And nowadays I don't even trade for the first overall pick anymore. I trade relatively 3-5 spots ahead of where the player I want is predicted to be drafted, that way I don't have to pay a player like a first overall pick.

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[quote=mooby;817623]Psh that wasn't even the worst of it. Back in the day on the PS2 I used to turn offsides off so I could get a head start on my pass rush. All my LB's and D-linemen used to average like 20 sacks every season haha. I'd do that today if they hadn't changed it so you can't.

And nowadays I don't even trade for the first overall pick anymore. I trade relatively 3-5 spots ahead of where the player I want is predicted to be drafted, that way I don't have to pay a player like a first overall pick.[/quote]

wtf I thought that I was a cheater on NFL 95 for taking my DL a step back so that he'd go unblocked

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[quote=tryfuhl;817625]wtf I thought that I was a cheater on NFL 95 for taking my DL a step back so that he'd go unblocked[/quote]

Well it's like I used to say, it's no fun unless you're dominating every aspect of the game except for the punting stats. Nowadays I take whoever I'm pass rushing with and give him a little space on my side of the LOS so he can get a running start before he tries to get past the o-linemen.

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[quote=mooby;817594]Can't confirm this so don't read into it too much, but I think Beck's rating will be around a 67 in this year's Madden. Enjoy.[/quote]

Beck may not even start. If he does, I have to defer to the "savoir faire" (there ya go smooty :cheeky-sm) of the Shanny's. Jury is still out on this whole QB thing.

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[quote=That Guy;817611]well, back when they still had a pc version (08?) you could cut all your draft picks (not sign them) and then get them the first day of FA at stupid stupid low prices (like 70% off), or switch their position and then sign them long term before switching them back... Madden is full of cheese.[/quote]

Yeah that was the last year for good PC sports games. EA still has FIFA, but past '09 they have it in the Xbox configuration, which is hard to master on a pc. I missed being the Skins in franchise mode and actually winning multiple superbowls with my cpu generated draft picks.

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I like the trade for Hightower for Vonnie.
1.Hightower is still young and has been productive on a very bad run blocking team in the Cardinals.
2.He runs hard and is durable.
3.He can catch the ball out of the backfield and pass block.
4. He will push ATV for the starting job.
5. He has the most experience out of any back on the roster.

Vonnie is a good locker room guy but his best days are behind him so and we give up a 6th rd pick for a proven NFL back. WIN WIN for US
HTTR

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What a great pick up. This guy has the game-breaking speed I've been clamoring for. I can't remember the last time we had a complete back who could take it to the house on any play.

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"Hightower wore thin on the Cardinals coaching staff with five fumbles in back-to-back seasons. Though he's a reliable pass-catcher, Hightower has been one of the least effective backs with the ball in hands, failing to top 7.0 yards per reception since entering the league in 2008."

Fabulous. :doh: