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[quote=SmootSmack;819592]Write about this Florio

[url=http://plus.sites.post-gazette.com/index.php/pro-sports/steelers/111046-ed-lockout-costing-steelers-money]Ed: Lockout Costing Steelers Money[/url][/quote]

Yep, a lot of team reporters saying that attendance is down

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[quote=skinsfan69;819170]The lockout has nothing to do with the small crowds. Bottom line is the fans are tired of the losing. I also think that blackouts are right around the corner. Never ever thought I say that but it's going to happen.[/quote]
We've been strong at camp and we've been losing for awhile, the lockout certainly plays into the attendance

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[quote=tryfuhl;819643]We've been strong at camp and we've been losing for awhile, the lockout certainly plays into the attendance[/quote]

perhaps but so does the losing.

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I am sorry, but the economy and the last 12 years of general mediocrity by our beloved Skins, plus the heat would cause fan camp attendance to spira anydayl. Not too many people like our chances considering the overall weak level at the QB position this year.

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[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/redskins/redskins-are-still-the-biggest-game-in-town/2011/08/03/gIQANKqvrI_story.html]Redskins are still the biggest game in town - The Washington Post[/url]

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[quote=Ruhskins;818650]Honestly, the people that don't like Snyder need to get over it. I am not going to defend any of the stupid things he did in the past, but right now he is a non-issue for the team. He's not making any decisions nor is he interfering with the team, he's just signing the checks. Personally, event the whole law suit against that newspaper is a non-issue for me, and it really shouldn't be for anyone as it relates to the team (which it doesn't).

I'm not saying that people should like Snyder, but unless he start f*cking the team up by interfering with operations or hire sh*theads like Vinny again, Snyder doesn't affect whether I like the team or not. And it really shouldn't affect anyone, but some people get easily distracted by non-important things.

That being said, I think this whole popularity issue with training camp probably has more to do with the lockout, the economy, and the heat rather than Snyder. PFT probably posted that article since they really haven't had anything to report about the Redskins.[/quote]

I agree get off the Synder Hate he stepped aside so now whats the beef. The people that are complaining get a life. Dont make the Redskins your life make them the team you support. I always faithful to the Redskins Nation.

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[url=http://www.bizjournals.com/sanantonio/blog/2011/08/blog-dallas-cowboys-practicing-in.html]Blog: Dallas Cowboys practicing in mostly empty Alamodome - San Antonio Business Journal[/url]

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So has Florio written anything about how a lot of teams have been seeing lower attendance at camp so far??

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[quote=SmootSmack;819924][URL="http://www.bizjournals.com/sanantonio/blog/2011/08/blog-dallas-cowboys-practicing-in.html"]Blog: Dallas Cowboys practicing in mostly empty Alamodome - San Antonio Business Journal[/URL][/quote]

7,000 + fans is still a hell of a lot more than a couple hundred. Also Dallas is practicing at San Antonio, which is probably 5 hours from Dallas. Actually Houston is a lot closer to San Antonio than Dallas is. If we were practicing 3, 4 or 5 hours a way there wouldn't be anyone there. We're training here in the DC area, right down the toll road. Bottom line is fans are tired of losing, it's showing at training camp and it's showing in game attendence.

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Yeah you missed the point. The point isn't how many people show up for Cowboys TC vs. Redskins TC. It's how many more people showed up last year for Cowboys camp vs. this year. There's an attendance drop among many teams league wide

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[quote=GusFrerotte;819722]I am sorry, but the economy and the last 12 years of general mediocrity by our beloved Skins, plus the heat would cause fan camp attendance to spira anydayl. Not too many people like our chances considering the overall weak level at the QB position this year.[/quote]

The practices are free so I'm not so sure the economy has anything to do with it. Maybe on gameday but not free practices.

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Gotta pay to get there right? And pay for concessions or to bring stuff with you.

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[quote=Mattyk;819953]Gotta pay to get there right? And pay for concessions or to bring stuff with you.[/quote]

Or take off from work and possibly lose some pay.

Only love is free my man - except on 14th Street.

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[quote=SmootSmack;819592]Write about this Florio

[URL="http://plus.sites.post-gazette.com/index.php/pro-sports/steelers/111046-ed-lockout-costing-steelers-money"]Ed: Lockout Costing Steelers Money[/URL][/quote]

I emailed him this link and the one about the Cowboys. Wonder if he'll write about their waning popularity.

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[quote=SmootSmack;819938]Yeah you missed the point. The point isn't how many people show up for Cowboys TC vs. Redskins TC. It's how many more people showed up last year for Cowboys camp vs. this year. There's an attendance drop among many teams league wide[/quote]

I understand. It's down all around. But to have a few hundred out at practice for this team is simply shocking.

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When the Steelers are seeing a drop, you know it is more than the state of the franchise in keeping folks away. Folks are not going to spend gas $$$$$$$$$ or any other $$$$ for concessions, etc like Matty and the others have said. You have diehard Skins fans in W VA, PA, NC, all over VA and MD. THink they are going to watch a practice at almost $4 a gallon, plus food and drink? I still have family in MD in LaVale, Columbia, and then Germantown. Close enough to make a go for it, but still would be an expensive trip, just to see a practice. The lockout had to have an effect on the down attendance all over the NFL. The perception is a bunch of overpaid players vs a bunch of greedy owners, all fighting for a bloated pot of gold, while the fans are getting shafted with increasing ticket prices, and ludicrous food and drink prices at the stadiums. Believe me, if we slip into a deep recession, it is going to get bad during the regular season. A guy with a family of 4-5 is going to cough up half or more of a paycheck just to take his family to a game? I doubt it. You will see that 4-5 year waiting list for Skins season tickets evaporate real fast!!!

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Listening to a sports show, they said like Carolina had 3 fans one day.........

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[quote=tomsawyer;818766]how about everybody's kids here?are your kids redskins fans? my wife,daughter,son and son in law all are.did you guys try to raise your kids as redskins fans?[/quote]

I dont' have kids, but the children (teens/college age)of friends and family members are Ravens fans. The closest they came to wearing the b&g happened during Gibbs II; they were huge Sean Taylor fans and got a taste of what the Dallas/Skins rivalry is all about. Their question to me, "Why do you Redskin fans continue to make the emotional investment in bad stock?" And you should have seen the LOL text I received the instant McNabb got benched. Kids.

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[quote=skinsfan69;819936]7,000 + fans is still a hell of a lot more than a couple hundred. Also Dallas is practicing at San Antonio, which is probably 5 hours from Dallas. Actually Houston is a lot closer to San Antonio than Dallas is. If we were practicing 3, 4 or 5 hours a way there wouldn't be anyone there. We're training here in the DC area, right down the toll road. Bottom line is fans are tired of losing, it's showing at training camp and it's showing in game attendence.[/quote]


I think you are right in that losing is a big factor in keeping folks away, but economics plays a part too. You are comparing TX to the DC area. You are comparing one of the places with the cheapest standards of living(low taxes, etc) to one of the highest(East Coast, DC area). Another reason possibly why that the Skins are down in practice attendance that hasn't been looked at is well, it is DC. LA can do without a NFL franchise because it is LA. Moviestars, beaches, hot chicks, etc. DC is virtually the capital of the planet. Movies is it for LA, politics is it for DC. Folks can't be bothered with a football team, especially if they are living in one of the most expensive places in the world to live in.

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[quote=skinsfan69;819936]7,000 + fans is still a hell of a lot more than a couple hundred. [B]Also Dallas is practicing at San Antonio, which is probably 5 hours from Dallas[/B]. Actually Houston is a lot closer to San Antonio than Dallas is. If we were practicing 3, 4 or 5 hours a way there wouldn't be anyone there. We're training here in the DC area, right down the toll road. Bottom line is fans are tired of losing, it's showing at training camp and it's showing in game attendence.[/quote]

There are probably nearly as many dallas fans in SA as in dallas....totally pro dallas state.

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It being the middle of summer and hotter than balls doesn't help. We haven't been good in a long time and have been a rather dysfunctional team so why would attendance be up? I will always be a Redskins fan until the day I die but damn some days loving them is just hard.

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[quote=Mattyk;820169]I emailed him this link and the one about the Cowboys. Wonder if he'll write about their waning popularity.[/quote]

So...did he ever get back to you?

[url=http://dc.sbnation.com/washington-redskins/2011/8/15/2364538/redskins-vs-steelers-tv-ratings-nfl-preseason]Redskins Vs. Steelers Broadcast Was Team's Highest-Rated Preseason Game In 20 Years - Half Smokes - SB Nation DC[/url]

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Nope, never heard anything.

So much for that waning popularity eh? Pretty nice ratings.

When do teachers and kids go back to school there? That would take a big bite out of attendance.

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Attedance for what exactly?

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[quote=GusFrerotte;820575]When the Steelers are seeing a drop, you know it is more than the state of the franchise in keeping folks away. Folks are not going to spend gas $$$$$$$$$ or any other $$$$ for concessions, etc like Matty and the others have said. You have diehard Skins fans in W VA, PA, NC, all over VA and MD. THink they are going to watch a practice at almost $4 a gallon, plus food and drink? I still have family in MD in LaVale, Columbia, and then Germantown. Close enough to make a go for it, but still would be an expensive trip, just to see a practice. The lockout had to have an effect on the down attendance all over the NFL. The perception is a bunch of overpaid players vs a bunch of greedy owners, all fighting for a bloated pot of gold, while the fans are getting shafted with increasing ticket prices, and ludicrous food and drink prices at the stadiums. Believe me, if we slip into a deep recession, it is going to get bad during the regular season. A guy with a family of 4-5 is going to cough up half or more of a paycheck just to take his family to a game? I doubt it. You will see that 4-5 year waiting list for Skins season tickets evaporate real fast!!![/quote]


I am with you until the very end...

That 4-5 year waiting list for Skins' season tickets was never there in the first place. The urban legend about tens of thousands of fans on the waiting list evaporated when the skins moved from RFK (55K seating capacity) to Fed Ex (seating capacity at the time 81K) and could not come close to selling all the extra seats even though they supposedly had 50 - 100 thousand rabid lifelong Redskins' fans on that "waiting list".

The fact that they could not sell those 10,000 seats they are removing from FedEx with their putative waiting list last year - - in addition to cold calling fans in the area like me who were definitely NEVER on any waiting list - - says that the names on the list must include ones like:

Clark Kent
Art Vandelay
Mr. Snuffleupugus
Ben Dover - - and - -
Hugh Jass

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[quote=SmootSmack;823541]So...did he ever get back to you?

[URL="http://dc.sbnation.com/washington-redskins/2011/8/15/2364538/redskins-vs-steelers-tv-ratings-nfl-preseason"]Redskins Vs. Steelers Broadcast Was Team's Highest-Rated Preseason Game In 20 Years - Half Smokes - SB Nation DC[/URL][/quote]A friday night game? That's incredible.