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Ruhskins 08-03-2011 12:28 AM

Re: Rex reporting for duty!
 
[quote=NC_Skins;819003]First off, I haven't said crap about D. Hall up until this point really, but I'm going to when kids that pump him up continue to shit on the players we have. You know the saying, don't throw stones from glass houses.[/quote]

I'm surprised you didn't break out any You Tube videos about it.

mooby 08-03-2011 01:05 AM

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[quote=REDSKINZ-RIDEORDIE;819083]LOL!! I KNEW that bothered you, that's why I told you. Im the same way LOL....[/quote]

It didn't bother me that much, although I will admit I was curious as to how I missed it. I stepped away from the comp for a while, and I came back and saw everyone was like "think you misread that man" and I honestly thought I actually did miss it. It's all good either way though.

skinsguy 08-03-2011 03:40 PM

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Please tell me this won't be Shane Matthews/Danny Wuerffel part 2.

mooby 08-03-2011 03:44 PM

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[quote=skinsguy;819472]Please tell me this won't be Shane Matthews/Danny Wuerffel part 2.[/quote]

It actually will be, why do you think we signed Spurrier to coach the qb's?

Ruhskins 08-03-2011 03:48 PM

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[quote=skinsguy;819472]Please tell me this won't be Shane Matthews/Danny Wuerffel part 2.[/quote]

Hopefully Shanahan has more than two QB protection schemes.

Dirtbag59 08-03-2011 03:52 PM

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[quote=skinsguy;819472]Please tell me this won't be Shane Matthews/Danny Wuerffel part 2.[/quote]

The 2011 Redskins are probably going to be more similar to the 2001 Redskins under Marty with tough defense and a running game. Hopefully the passing game is much more competent.

Gtothearry 08-03-2011 05:35 PM

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Watching redskins nation and Rex looks pudgey and out of shape.

Dirtbag59 08-03-2011 05:38 PM

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[quote=Gtothearry;819524]Watching redskins nation and Rex looks pudgey and out of shape.[/quote]

Rex has always been a little pudgy and out of shape. Doesn't matter, if anything it's a benefit at QB. Just like fat pitchers in baseball that usually heal faster. Look at Big Ben, Peyton, even Brady. Yeah sure they're not all fat but they're not ripped either. On the other hand look at Brady Quinn. Six pack abs don't help you thread a needle between two defenders, and they certainly don't help you unleash the dragon.

BigHairedAristocrat 08-03-2011 05:40 PM

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[quote=Lotus;819062]How did a Rex thread become a DHall thread?[/quote]

the bigger question is this - mike shananan joined the redskins, did any of us fathom a time when we would be 'excited' (see the exclamation point in the thread title) that rex grossman reported to camp.

Think about that. How did things come to this?

Lotus 08-03-2011 06:03 PM

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;819529]the bigger question is this - mike shananan joined the redskins, did any of us fathom a time when we would be 'excited' (see the exclamation point in the thread title) that rex grossman reported to camp.

Think about that. How did things come to this?[/quote]

And Thursday we add Kellen Clemens!

SolidSnake84 08-03-2011 10:08 PM

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Don't bash me, but Rex is probably the best thing to happen to this team at QB in a long time. Here me out here.

He is a younger guy (30), who isnt demanding big money and has no illusions that he is going to be guaranteed anything. This is probably the exact opposite of most every player that has walked through our door in the last 10 years.

He is going to come to compete, and earn a job and a role on this team. That alone speaks worlds of difference between this regime and the old one, where players could just skip the workouts, do nothing in preseason, and come right in and get paid to be a starter. (Portis, Haynesworth, Adam Archuleta, etc....)

I'm starting to get excited again. I haven't been this excited since our 2005 playoffs. We finally have a team where guys have to earn their spots...

GTripp0012 08-03-2011 11:15 PM

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[quote=SolidSnake84;819701]Don't bash me, but Rex is probably the best thing to happen to this team at QB in a long time. Here me out here.

[B]He is a younger guy (30)[/B], who isnt demanding big money and has no illusions that he is going to be guaranteed anything. This is probably the exact opposite of most every player that has walked through our door in the last 10 years.

He is going to come to compete, and earn a job and a role on this team. That alone speaks worlds of difference between this regime and the old one, where players could just skip the workouts, do nothing in preseason, and come right in and get paid to be a starter. (Portis, Haynesworth, Adam Archuleta, etc....)

I'm starting to get excited again. I haven't been this excited since our 2005 playoffs. We finally have a team where guys have to earn their spots...[/quote]:doh:

You forgot to delete the part you fact checked, and found factually incorrect.

SmootSmack 08-03-2011 11:16 PM

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He's younger than McNabb...so there

artmonkforhallofamein07 08-04-2011 12:31 AM

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[quote=Dirtbag59;819082]I view Rex as this teams floor. Beck has more potential with his work ethic, mobility, and leadership however he's still unproven and if I had to be safe I'd take Grossman over Beck. Does that make sense?[/quote]

Well I guess that is true in some respect. But I have to say that Beck could end up being a much lower floor. I guess we will see this thing play out in about 9 days.

Wow we are close to preseason football.....

skins89moss 08-04-2011 05:01 AM

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Here is my opinion on Rex Grossman as our QB this season. I know John Beck is the talk of Shanny but they have to give him confidence and build Beck up. Remember Rex was a free agent and we wanted Rex back but at a reasonable price. So here we are with Beck a player that has had limited amount of game experience. Look if we picked a Rookie QB in the draft ( Ponder, Locker) they would be useless this season due to the lockout. With Rex we have a QB that has started in the Super Bowl and is in his 3rd season in Kyle offense. Rex has the played in the same amount of Super Bowls as McNabb has. I rather fix our defense this season improve our o-line and leave with Rex or Beck this season and draft a QB 2012. This is how you build a team people, I know as long time Redskins fans we are not use to this mode of operation. Get It Through Your Heads we are building our team for next season. We have been snake bitten when it comes to drafting a QB in Redskins Nation. The most recent QB's that we drafted that had some success other than JC was Gus Fuerrotte people. The days of going to the Super Bowl with a Trent Dilfer are over folks. We have to get a STUD at the QB positon and he maybe in the next 2012 draft. So dont worry how many games we when this season we just need to be better than last season and look for our QB of the future. Ride it out with Rexy or Becks and look at the Big Picture. HTTR

Kindoy 08-04-2011 02:54 PM

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Pulling for G-Rex to start this year

Stuck in TX 08-04-2011 11:48 PM

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Preseason will be fun. Pulling equally for all three QBs!

jonny5dicky 08-06-2011 09:01 PM

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Rex Grossman is a great leader who will give the players on this offense opportunities to make plays....He's absolutely fearless and driven to succeed despite what many consider failures in his career. The only quarterback I can think of to play in a super bowl with less career starts at the time of the appearance is Tom Brady. I think Grossman will have more prolific passing numbers than Brad Johnson did in 1999. The Redskins are absolutely a sleeper team, I don't think anybody understands that Rex Grossman is a purely capable quarterback that really knows how to capatalize off the play action. I am very excited about what Rex is going to show to the NFL this season, not many are going to be ready for it.

sportscurmudgeon 08-06-2011 09:14 PM

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[quote=jonny5dicky;820827]Rex Grossman is a great leader who will give the players on this offense opportunities to make plays....He's absolutely fearless and driven to succeed despite what many consider failures in his career. The only quarterback I can think of to play in a super bowl with less career starts at the time of the appearance is Tom Brady. I think Grossman will have more prolific passing numbers than Brad Johnson did in 1999. The Redskins are absolutely a sleeper team, I don't think anybody understands that Rex Grossman is a purely capable quarterback that really knows how to capatalize off the play action. I am very excited about what Rex is going to show to the NFL this season, not many are going to be ready for it.[/quote]


Outing Alert!

jonny5dicky is Rex Grossman's mother.

That is all. Smoke 'em if you got 'em...

TheSmurfs22 08-06-2011 11:50 PM

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One day the Skins are going to have a qb who will be able to lead them for a long time. One day the Skins will have a solid offensive line too. I look forward to those days.

Hog1 08-06-2011 11:52 PM

Re: Rex reporting for duty!
 
[quote=jonny5dicky;820827]Rex Grossman is a great leader who will give the players on this offense opportunities to make plays....He's absolutely fearless and driven to succeed despite what many consider failures in his career. The only quarterback I can think of to play in a super bowl with less career starts at the time of the appearance is Tom Brady. I think Grossman will have more prolific passing numbers than Brad Johnson did in 1999. The Redskins are absolutely a sleeper team, I don't think anybody understands that Rex Grossman is a purely capable quarterback that really knows how to capatalize off the play action. I am very excited about what Rex is going to show to the NFL this season, not many are going to be ready for it.[/quote]

John Riggins, the drunken Prankster?

jonny5dicky 08-07-2011 06:38 AM

Re: Rex reporting for duty!
 
No, I'm a lifelong Redskins fan from Florida, and I know that Rex Grossman is a very capable quarterback who just had a bad rep.....Kind of stupid the Bears just didn't stick it out with him after he led them to the super bowl his FIRST SEASON as a starter. It's okay though he will be validated soon when he's putting up huge passing numbers this season. Ask Santana Moss or Anthony Armstrong who they want to start I bet they don't say John Beck, they'll tell you they want a true gunslinger like a one Red8RexGrossman!

huntz 08-07-2011 09:51 AM

Re: Rex reporting for duty!
 
[quote=skinsguy;819472]Please tell me this won't be Shane Matthews/Danny Wuerffel part 2.[/quote]

It will be. Gonna be a long season.

sportscurmudgeon 08-07-2011 10:31 AM

Re: Rex reporting for duty!
 
jonny5dicky:

For 2006 - - the year that Rex Grossman and the Bears made it to the Super Bowl - - here are some facts:


1. That was the ONLY year that Rex Grossman started all 16 games of a season. In every other season, he was either injured or benched for some of the games.

2. Even though I fully believe that the QB Rating scale is a flawed system, it can tell the difference between a "very good game" and a "very bad game". In the Super Bowl season, Rex had 8 very good games where his QB Rating was between 98.6 and 148. That is EXCELLENT!

3. In the same 2006 season, Rex had 6 horrendous games where his QB rating was between 0.0 and 36.8. [Point of reference: JaMarcus Russell on bad days had QB Ratings of about 40.] That is HORRID!


Those stats come from the Bears' Super Bowl Season; they are not cherry-picked from Rex's bad games going season-to-season or from the best games of his career.

My conclusion from that data:

At best, Rex Grossman is wildly inconsistent.

If you want to win those six games where his QB Rating is south of JaMarcus Russell territory, you had better have a dominating defense that can score points on its own AND hold opponents to 10-14 points on a regular basis.

In addition, it would be a very good idea to have a running attack that can give the defense some rest on those days when they are going to have to win the game...

Hog1 08-07-2011 12:09 PM

Re: Rex reporting for duty!
 
[quote=jonny5dicky;820878]No, I'm a lifelong Redskins fan from Florida, and I know that Rex Grossman is a very capable quarterback who just had a bad rep.....Kind of stupid the Bears just didn't stick it out with him after he led them to the super bowl his FIRST SEASON as a starter. It's okay though he will be validated soon when he's putting up huge passing numbers this season. Ask Santana Moss or Anthony Armstrong who they want to start I bet they don't say John Beck, they'll tell you they want a true gunslinger like a one Red8RexGrossman![/quote]
I will say this J. It would surprise me not that Rex gets the start and the remainder of the preseason will determine. I have a hard time embracing your entire assessment of Sexy.....BUT I hope YOU are correct and I am wrong!!
HTTR

SolidSnake84 08-07-2011 04:43 PM

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[quote=GTripp0012;819734]:doh:

You forgot to delete the part you fact checked, and found factually incorrect.[/quote]

What? I dont get it. His birthday is August 23rd, 1980. He is 30 years old right now.

Gtothearry 08-09-2011 06:00 PM

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[quote=Gtothearry;819524]Watching redskins nation and Rex looks pudgey and out of shape.[/quote]

:laughing- [url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc-sports-bog/post/evaluating-rex-grossmans-torso/2011/08/08/gIQA7HUi2I_blog.html]Evaluating Rex Grossman’s torso - DC Sports Bog - The Washington Post[/url]

hooskins 08-09-2011 06:10 PM

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LOL I was just watching Redskins Nation and thought the same thing about Rex. Maybe he will be like Big Ben, with players just bouncing of him?

GMScud 08-09-2011 06:32 PM

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[quote=Gtothearry;821644]:laughing- [URL="http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc-sports-bog/post/evaluating-rex-grossmans-torso/2011/08/08/gIQA7HUi2I_blog.html"]Evaluating Rex Grossman’s torso - DC Sports Bog - The Washington Post[/URL][/quote]

Yeah no two ways about it. He's chubby.

MTK 08-09-2011 06:39 PM

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Wow, journalism at it's best.

SmootSmack 08-09-2011 07:20 PM

[QUOTE=GMScud;821652]Yeah no two ways about it. He's chubby.[/QUOTE]

Most who have seen him in person this summer say he is no bigger than last year

MTK 08-09-2011 07:24 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;821664]Most who have seen him in person this summer say he is no bigger than last year[/quote]

I think John Keim mentioned that point in one of his recent camp reports.

I think this whole thing is really dumb. Looks like he could stand to drop 5-10 lbs, but he's always been stocky.

He doesn't look much different to me either from last year

[IMG]http://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Rex+Grossman+Buffalo+Bills+v+Washington+Redskins+DidLfBdbFhRl.jpg[/IMG]

jonny5dicky 08-09-2011 07:35 PM

Re: Rex reporting for duty!
 
Red8 is the mark of the gunslinger, a one Rex Grossman with the quickest release in the game. The Redskins offense is going to be prolific, something Redskins fans haven't seen in years. It's time to embrace Grossman, try to be smart fans and understand that Grossman is a talented passer and Beck should only hope to be his understudy.

NLC1054 08-09-2011 07:40 PM

Re: Rex reporting for duty!
 
I'm saying, does Rex look any worse than he did last year?

There's a lot of quarterbacks who are soft in the middle. Peyton Manning ain't exactly built like a Greek statue or anything.

How about we support our quarterbacks instead of trashing them like the teams we claim to hate?

mooby 08-09-2011 10:52 PM

Re: Rex reporting for duty!
 
[quote=jonny5dicky;821675]Red8 is the mark of the gunslinger, a one Rex Grossman with the quickest release in the game. The Redskins offense is going to be prolific, something Redskins fans haven't seen in years. It's time to embrace Grossman, try to be smart fans and understand that Grossman is a talented passer and Beck should only hope to be his understudy.[/quote]

I relinquish my title as leader of the Sexy Rexy Bandwagon to you, as it is apparent you have reached levels of boyhood idolization I can only dream of.

Dirtbag59 08-09-2011 10:59 PM

Re: Rex reporting for duty!
 
It's now official, if you wear 8 in this town people will obsess over your body comp.

GMScud 08-10-2011 01:01 AM

Re: Rex reporting for duty!
 
[quote=SmootSmack;821664]Most who have seen him in person this summer say he is no bigger than last year[/quote]

Yeah I mean Cooley isn't exactly ripped either. I'm not saying he can't play QB, I'm just saying there's really no denying he's kinda pudgy. But I agree it's not really relevant to his 2011 season. It's not like he's a WR.

GMScud 08-10-2011 01:03 AM

Re: Rex reporting for duty!
 
However, he is dropping these gems:

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/09/rex-grossman-says-redskins-will-win-the-nfc-east/]Rex Grossman says Redskins will win the NFC East | ProFootballTalk[/url]

GMScud 08-10-2011 01:23 AM

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[quote=NLC1054;821677]I'm saying, does Rex look any worse than he did last year?

There's a lot of quarterbacks who are soft in the middle. Peyton Manning ain't exactly built like a Greek statue or anything.

How about we support our quarterbacks instead of trashing them like the teams we claim to hate?[/quote]

Supporting them and having some sort of delusions about their potential are two seperate things. Will I cheer for the success of our starting qb? Absolutely. Will my expectations remain very low if that qb is Grossman or Beck? Of course. Look at the last decade of Super Bowl qbs and tell me it isn't a passers league.
Sure Rex played in a Super Bowl, but his numbers hit a ceiling that was about on par with Brunell's best season as a Redskin.


I love my Redskins, but I'm real at the same time.

Dirtbag59 08-10-2011 01:38 AM

Re: Rex reporting for duty!
 
[quote=GMScud;821769]However, he is dropping these gems:

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/09/rex-grossman-says-redskins-will-win-the-nfc-east/]Rex Grossman says Redskins will win the NFC East | ProFootballTalk[/url][/quote]

Apparently Rex knows of a plan to knock out both Vick and Young for much longer then the Skins were able to last year.


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