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The latter part of this interview is downright frightening......the possibility of a Vinny return??.......Chilling!

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/04/pft-live-examining-the-redskins/related/]PFT Live: Examining the Redskins | ProFootballTalk[/url]

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[quote=Longtimefan;820118]The latter part of this interview is downright frightening......the possibility of a Vinny return??.......Chilling!

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/04/pft-live-examining-the-redskins/related/]PFT Live: Examining the Redskins | ProFootballTalk[/url][/quote]

There is no way in hell Vinny Cerrato will return to the Redskins in a similar role. We're at the point where Skin fans hate Cerrato more then the Cowboys. The more realistic and frightening possibility would be Snyder finding another yes-man/enabler after Allen,

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[quote=Dirtbag59;820125]There is no way in hell Vinny Cerrato will return to the Redskins in a similar role. We're at the point where Skin fans hate Cerrato more then the Cowboys. The more realistic and frightening possibility would be Snyder finding another yes-man/enabler after Allen,[/quote]

I'm mindful of the fact it's something not likely to happen. Just to hear even a hint of a possibility I found scary.

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[quote=Longtimefan;820128]I'm mindful of the fact it's something not likely to happen. Just to hear even a hint of a possibility I found scary.[/quote]

I wonder why does Florio have the helmets of the Jets and Redskins separate from the rest of the helmets and behind him on the set?

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[quote=Player_HTTR;819957]I haven't lived in the area for years now, but was streaming 106.7 at work the other day and B Mitch was just a complete nonsensical jerk to the point I turned it off and will now only try and stream the Junnkies in the AM if I can remeber to do it. It is sad, I thought a lot of the vendetta(sp) stuff was because of Snyder's fantasy football experiment. Now there is direction and these guys still want to flame away at every oppurtunity. Sorry I will not be adding to those Neilson (or any other) ratings numbers for these bottom feeders.

A thread about people in the media worth listening to would be great also IMO. Especially for the people removed from the area.[/quote]


I totally agree with you. I sit around and hear all the bad mouthing of the team and think I'm sitting in Dallas country. There has to be a happy medium between all the negative media nannies and Larry Michael who seems to have his head so far up the Teams arse that he can't even begin to acknowledge there might be a problem.

I think the Junkies are somewhat fair only because there are 4 guys who don't always agree with each other. So you get different oppinions. Mitchell is all negative. I think he'd be better served to go report for the Eagles since he does nothing but praise them. Lavar has nice things to say when he's siding with a players point of view, but the team as a whole or when talking about DS he's negative.

The National media is sick. They only want to talk about the Eagles and Jets and how they are going to do so well. As Orakpo said.... I'm glad no one is talking about the Skins. Let them stay under the radar.

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[quote=SmootSmack;820132]I wonder why does Florio have the helmets of the Jets and Redskins separate from the rest of the helmets and behind him on the set?[/quote]

Coincidence or design??......maybe it had to do with his next interview.

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He has them for all his interviews, it never changes

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[quote=SmootSmack;820132]I wonder why does Florio have the helmets of the Jets and Redskins separate from the rest of the helmets and behind him on the set?[/quote]

Florio is officially on the bandwagon. Well thats my Superbowl pick, isnt that yours, SS?

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Hey, why not?!

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[quote=SmootSmack;820143]Hey, why not?![/quote]

BTW....At 14:58 in that interview clip there's a background graphic showing the Redskins signings and trades. The last name on the list is CB Z Strief with no mention of how he was acquired. The NFL list only one player with the name Strief and he's a guard with NO. Was the graphic in error because I haven't seen or heard anything on Strief.

[url=http://www.nfl.com/player/zachstrief/2506974/profile]Zach Strief, G for the New Orleans Saints at NFL.com[/url]

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[quote=Longtimefan;820161]BTW....At 14:58 in that interview clip there's a background graphic showing the Redskins signings and trades. The last name on the list is CB Z Strief with no mention of how he was acquired. The NFL list only one player with the name Strief and he's a guard with NO. Was the graphic in error because I haven't seen or heard anything on Strief.

[url=http://www.nfl.com/player/zachstrief/2506974/profile]Zach Strief, G for the New Orleans Saints at NFL.com[/url][/quote]

Error

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[quote=NYCskinfan82;820062]I think we deserved alot of criticism in the past but now I think we are moving in the right direction, and the media just looks at us as the easy target. You need to see the Steve Mariucci comments on the NFL network yesterday good stuff IMO.[/quote]

Is there a link available on NFL.com? Sorry for being lazy I don't want to sit through 3 or 4 minutes of advertisements to find one video.

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[quote=Longtimefan;819872]Fan since 1972 you're familiar with the George Allen regime. My philosophy on your hater list is: Don't tune um in...you won't have to concern yourself with tuning um out.

John Riggins: Is not one of us (we're fans) Jon Saraceno of USA Today posed the question to Riggins in an interview...Q: Are you a Redskins fan?....Riggins A: No. I was a player. I have no allegiances and loyalties -- only the paycheck.

John Feinstein: The only man alive that knows everything about everything. Enjoys hearing himself.

Brian Mitchell: Loves the Redskins. Pointed comments and many times confrontational is what has drawn ire from many of his critics.

LaVar Arrington: Still searching for a good reason why he should be serving in his current capacity. If he's not over his bitterness his intentions can only be viewed as deceptive.

Jason Reid: Along with LaVar work for the Washington Post. [B]Know who owns the WP?
nuff said.[/B][/quote]


For the record, the Washington Post is a publicly owned and openly traded company on the NYSE.

'nuff said?

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[quote=SmootSmack;819959]I think Kevin Sheehan and Thom Loverro are pretty solid[/quote]

AMEN to this!!!

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[quote=SBXVII;819933]My issue is for 10 yrs we have heard nothing from the media but how the Skins were trying to buy a championship. Last year and this year Allen not only found a way to keep us out of CAP hell he brought in cheap talent other then McNabb. This year alone has shown they are not on the same old path by how they turned 5 picks into 12 and brougt in cheap talented vets. So what really does the media want? They complained about the Skins spending sooo much money on vets and trying to buy a championship, and when the Skins finally stop doing that they again ridicule the Skins saying they had a bad offseason and won't do well? WTF?

Is it because the Skins didn't go out and pick up a QB like all the media pundits said we needed and had to have? The Skins didn't do what they said the Skins needed to do so they have turned on the Skins?

Does Buffalo have the same problem with their winningless team? What about Cinci? I don't know about the rest of you but I hardly hear the media bad mouth Cinci like they do the Skins. But it's obvious tue media doesn't like a team to go out and buy all the big names in order to win it all right? Wrong, just look at the love fest over the Eagles and Jets this year. They did what the Skins have done and everyone is all over their jocks this year talking about they are going deep into the playoffs with what they picked up.

I can only hope the cohesiveness is not there and they bomb, and the Skins do better and atleast make it into the playoffs just to rub it in.[/quote]

I like your view points

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[quote=SmootSmack;819969]It's funny. I never really hear that from him. Used to hear it all the time from Doc Walker[/quote]

Here is another trend to monitor:

When Doc Walker goes crazy over some athlete signing to come to DC - - does not matter the sport - - the guy will be an underachiever. Some of the "ballers" he has gone orgasmic about include:
[INDENT]Haynesworth - - and how he was going to make the Skins OL dominant like the Hogs because they would have to face him in practice every day. How's that for insight?

Juwann Howard (Wizards): Doc helped organize a rally outside the Wizards' office to sign Howard to a $105M deal.

Jaromir Jagr (Caps): He was Wayne Gretzky and Gordie Howe rolled into one.

Deion Sanders: Now the Skins' secondary would only have to defend half the field so imagine how many "pick Sixes" there would be...

Devin Thomas: If the Skins would only call the "9-route" for him (straight fly pattern), the whole league would take notice and defensive coordinators would have to adjust their thinking every time the Skins were on the schedule.[/INDENT]
[B]Fans love Doc because he tells them what they want to hear.[/B] Often, what they want to hear and reality have not much in common.

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[quote=Defensewins;820002]I don't think it is hate. Or Hatte.
When you suck as long as we have (1992) and your owner (Danny) used to love seeing himself on TV as much as he used to, it is deserved criticism. Not hate.
We Redskins fans are quick to laugh at the perennially awful teams like Cleveland, Cincinnati, Detroit (no longer bad), St. Louis (also no longer terrible), etc. Guess what....we are part of that list until we can be a consistent playoff team.
You want the shit talk to stop.....start winning.
We have been embarrassingly bad at times in the last three years and when Spurrier was here. Add in all the embarrassing Snyderatto moments and it is safe to say we earned the shit talk.
Winning cures everything.
Plus..who really cares what others have to say about us.
Let's take care of our own business and punch some people in the mouth on the field this coming season.
HTTR![/quote]

I just really shocked that alot of the Redskins Hate is coming from former Redskins like I stated before ( Riggins, Lavar, BMitch) its like they have a ax to grind with Dan Synder. Its one thing to dislike the Owner but stop bashing the new coaching staff and players.

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[quote=Jontrem;819838]Here is a Hatter I like
[IMG]http://teapartycostumes.org/tea-party-tease-costume/[/IMG]

Ok I cant get this too work. I am trying to post pics of a gril in a made hatter costume obviously but no luck![/quote]


is this the one you were trying to post?

[IMG]http://teapartycostumes.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Tea-Party-Tease-300x300.jpg[/IMG]

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[quote=skinsfaninok;820166][url=http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/LeBron-James-comes-to-Tim-Tebow-8217-s-defense-?urn=nfl-wp4533]LeBron James comes to Tim Tebow’s defense on Twitter - Shutdown Corner - NFL*Blog - Yahoo! Sports[/url][/quote]

Well at least we now know Merrill Hodge isn't racist :D

Just for reference, Hodge's last QB whipping boy was Vince Young.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;820008]Actually, it's more like "Be a mediocre team that has a history of bad personnel decisions and get criticized until you start winning."[/quote]

This

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"6 plays. Split veer. It's like novacaine; give it time, it'll work" -Herman Boone

Right now its popular to make fun of the Redskins in the media. Need a butt of a joke? Hey the Redskins are sub .500 this year. Simple fact is we have over 10 years of embarrassment to make up for. Snyder's approach now, per fan feedback, is to step back and let our management/coach run this team like other successful franchises in the league. It will take time though. On another point, how many years in a row have we heard the f**king cowboys get so much praise as "the team to beat" or the "team to make the super bowl" and watched inconsistency and poor football playing? This makes the media look just as bad as when they make unwarranted jeers at our decisions. Our playing and our success will either shut them up or make them refer to us as posers or flukes. Either way, playoff appearances and SB rings talk. Not self proclaimed football pundits.

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[quote=Stuck in TX;820291]"6 plays. Split veer. It's like novacaine; give it time, it'll work" -Herman Boone

Right now its popular to make fun of the Redskins in the media. Need a butt of a joke? Hey the Redskins are sub .500 this year. Simple fact is we have over 10 years of embarrassment to make up for Snyder's terrible management. His approach now, per fan feedback, is to step back and let our management/coach run this team like other successful franchises in the league. It will take time though. On another point, how many years in a row have we heard the f**king cowboys get so much praise as "the team to beat" or the "team to make the super bowl" and watched inconsistency and poor football playing? This makes the media look just as bad as when they make unwarranted jeers at our decisions. Our playing and our success will either shut them up or make them refer to us as posers or flukes. Either way, playoff appearances and SB rings talk. Not self proclaimed football pundits.[/quote]

Cowboys have warranted the attention on some level. They have had quality backfields, a pro bowl passer, good lines, and the best pass rusher in the game along with a slew of other attributes. Not to mention the fact that their win totals the last few years (not including 2010) 11, 9 13, 9, 9. Most of the heavy Super Bowl hype kicked up after they won 13 games. And they still could win, kind of like the Giants and Packers with their out of no where Super Bowl victories.

HOWEVER, I'm inclined to think that the Boys Parcell magic is starting to wear off and we're getting closer and closer to the late 90's where Qunicy Carter was the truth and Dave Campo was Jurruh's puppet. However we may still be a few years away from that phase. Nevertheless I feel like it's coming. Either way, once Romo is gone or out of magic, they're done.

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[quote=Dirtbag59;820294]Cowboys have warranted the attention on some level. They have had quality backfields, a pro bowl passer, good lines, and the best pass rusher in the game along with a slew of other attributes. Not to mention the fact that their win totals the last few years (not including 2010) 11, 9 13, 9, 9. Most of the heavy Super Bowl hype kicked up after they won 13 games. And they still could win, kind of like the Giants and Packers with their out of no where Super Bowl victories.

HOWEVER, I'm inclined to think that the Boys Parcell magic is starting to wear off and we're getting closer and closer to the late 90's where Qunicy Carter was the truth and Dave Campo was Jurruh's puppet. However we may still be a few years away from that phase. Nevertheless I feel like it's coming. Either way, once Romo is gone or out of magic, they're done.[/quote]

My point (and I seem to not be making these very clearly lately, and I apologize for that) is how many times do the cowboys need to prove them wrong before the credibility is worn down?

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[quote=Stuck in TX;820297]My point (and I seem to not be making these very clearly lately, and I apologize for that) is how many times do the cowboys need to prove them wrong before the credibility is worn down?[/quote]

As long as they're posting 9 and better seasons year in and year out they have a chance. Think of them as the NFC version of the Colts without the once in a generation player. Same thing with the Eagles. It's one of those things where if you make it enough times your bound to eventually break through and get the 3 or 4 games necessary to be a champion

Good news for us though is the fact that last year they started to show chinks in the armor. The Giants also are starting to look weak as well (cap problems and two missed playoffs). If the Beck experiment pans out the East could be a race between the Skins and Eagles. However we need still need to learn to walk before we can run

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[quote=Dirtbag59;820300] we need still need to learn to walk before we can run[/quote]

I agree. And no one wants to report walking. I also like your take on us and the Eagles. For the record I don't care if they ever like us in the media. Like I said before when we put up, they will shut up. Or they wont...all that matters is the W's.

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[quote=sportscurmudgeon;820271]Here is another trend to monitor:

When Doc Walker goes crazy over some athlete signing to come to DC - - does not matter the sport - - the guy will be an underachiever. Some of the "ballers" he has gone orgasmic about include:
[INDENT]Haynesworth - - and how he was going to make the Skins OL dominant like the Hogs because they would have to face him in practice every day. How's that for insight?

Juwann Howard (Wizards): Doc helped organize a rally outside the Wizards' office to sign Howard to a $105M deal.

Jaromir Jagr (Caps): He was Wayne Gretzky and Gordie Howe rolled into one.

Deion Sanders: Now the Skins' secondary would only have to defend half the field so imagine how many "pick Sixes" there would be...

Devin Thomas: If the Skins would only call the "9-route" for him (straight fly pattern), the whole league would take notice and defensive coordinators would have to adjust their thinking every time the Skins were on the schedule.[/INDENT]
[B]Fans love Doc because he tells them what they want to hear.[/B] Often, what they want to hear and reality have not much in common.[/quote]

I agree 100%...Doc and that whole show is pretty much unlistenable. Sheehan & Lovero is the only good show on 980.

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Haha Darrel yeah that was one of them

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[quote=Defensewins;820002]I don't think it is hate. Or Hatte.
When you suck as long as we have (1992) and your owner (Danny) used to love seeing himself on TV as much as he used to, it is deserved criticism. Not hate.
We Redskins fans are quick to laugh at the perennially awful teams like Cleveland, Cincinnati, Detroit (no longer bad), St. Louis (also no longer terrible), etc. Guess what....we are part of that list until we can be a consistent playoff team.
You want the shit talk to stop.....start winning.
We have been embarrassingly bad at times in the last three years and when Spurrier was here. Add in all the embarrassing Snyderatto moments and it is safe to say we earned the shit talk.
Winning cures everything.
Plus..who really cares what others have to say about us.
Let's take care of our own business and punch some people in the mouth on the field this coming season.
HTTR![/quote]

Yeah I mean that's pretty much /thread. I've stayed away from this thread since it was posted because, and no offense to the OP, it's a silly notion. Yes, the Cowboys get a ridiculous amount of hype from ESPN (although not so much so far this year), but why shouldn't we be heavily criticized?

People that get upset when we get rolled through the mud make me laugh. I mean sure, it hurts when a team you love gets blasted on a national stage, but why shouldn't we? We've been an utter embarrassment on and off the field since Snyder bought the team. Like Defenswins said, we're right there with the Lions, Browns, and Bengals of the world as an NFL bottom feeder. Gibbs 2.0 was a bit of an exception, but not much.

Until we field a winner and stop winning the "offseason superbowl" (the latter I think is already happening), we're gonna get drubbed by the media, and deservedly so.

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[quote=GMScud;820454]Yeah I mean that's pretty much /thread. I've stayed away from this thread since it was posted because, and no offense to the OP, it's a silly notion. Yes, the Cowboys get a ridiculous amount of hype from ESPN (although not so much so far this year), but why shouldn't we be heavily criticized?

People that get upset when we get rolled through the mud make me laugh. I mean sure, it hurts when a team you love gets blasted on a national stage, but why shouldn't we? We've been an utter embarrassment on and off the field since Snyder bought the team. Like Defenswins said, we're right there with the Lions, Browns, and Bengals of the world as an NFL bottom feeder. Gibbs 2.0 was a bit of an exception, but not much.

Until we field a winner and stop winning the "offseason superbowl" (the latter I think is already happening), we're gonna get drubbed by the media, and deservedly so.[/quote]

There's nothing left to say....

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I just don't think so.

For some reason I feel like, even when this thing turns around, every move the Redskins make is still going to be bashed/criticized/overanalyzed.

Because the fact of the matter is, we've had a much better offseason than years previous, and I feel like all it would've taken is signing some big name quarterback like VY or Hasselbeck or whatever and all the sudden everyone would be ready to hop on the bandwagon.

Right now, people are having fun tearing down John Beck and calling Rex Grossman fat. The reason I get pissed is because there are no legitimate criticisms of the Redskins going on right now. This "well we suck, so we deserve criticism" stuff ignores the fact that 3/4's of what people are saying has [i]nothing[/i] to do with football.

If ESPN or NFL Network or 106.7 The Fan were talking about FOOTBALL, and what the problems on the football side of things, I'd have no problem. As it stands, when people mention the Redskins, I barely hear anything about football, and hear jerks like Warren Sapp and Jamie Dukes snickering over John Beck being turned away at camp, or JLC making blind generalizations about the team, or Yahoo posting pictures of Rex Grossman looking chubby.

I've heard nothing about the additions we've made to the team, except people booing the Stallworth signing. There are still people out there claiming we signed Stokley. Stokley hasn't even sniffed Redskins Park since he said there was too much competition for a starting job (which in and of itself says a lot, but that went ignored too). And I've heard more about Andrew Luck than I have about any of the guys not named Beck or Grossman than ANYONE currently on our roster.

It's complete bull.

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[quote=NLC1054;820461]I just don't think so.
[B]
For some reason I feel like, even when this thing turns around, every move the Redskins make is still going to be bashed/criticized/overanalyzed. [/B]

Because the fact of the matter is, we've had a much better offseason than years previous, and I feel like all it would've taken is signing some big name quarterback like VY or Hasselbeck or whatever and all the sudden everyone would be ready to hop on the bandwagon.

Right now, people are having fun tearing down John Beck and calling Rex Grossman fat. [B]The reason I get pissed is because there are no legitimate criticisms of the Redskins going on right now. [/B]This "well we suck, so we deserve criticism" stuff ignores the fact that 3/4's of what people are saying has [I]nothing[/I] to do with football.

If ESPN or NFL Network or 106.7 The Fan were talking about FOOTBALL, and what the problems on the football side of things, I'd have no problem. As it stands, when people mention the Redskins, I barely hear anything about football, and hear jerks like Warren Sapp and Jamie Dukes snickering over John Beck being turned away at camp, or JLC making blind generalizations about the team, or Yahoo posting pictures of Rex Grossman looking chubby.

I've heard nothing about the additions we've made to the team, except people booing the Stallworth signing. There are still people out there claiming we signed Stokley. Stokley hasn't even sniffed Redskins Park since he said there was too much competition for a starting job (which in and of itself says a lot, but that went ignored too). And I've heard more about Andrew Luck than I have about any of the guys not named Beck or Grossman than ANYONE currently on our roster.

It's complete bull.[/quote]

As to your first point in bold, that remains to be seen. But at the end of the day, we just can't get out of our own way. Everyone was so psyched about the Shanahan/Allen thing, and his first big move was the McNabb debacle. It looked just like more of the same old Redskins. And then we put up another double-digit loss season. You have to earn credibility and respect. Once we do enough to earn it, I believe we'll get it. Until then...

As to the second point in bold, both local media (including a radio station owned by Danny) and national media are scratching their heads that we are content to go into the season with John Beck and Rex Grossman as our QB stable. It's pretty baffling if you ask me.

We've done everything we can over the past 10+ to be a national punching bag. We're an easy target, so the media likes to push us around. As a fan of the Redskins it annoys me, but it's not unwarranted IMO. Were the Lions of the Millen-era a national punching bag? And did they deserve it? We've been in that category over recent years, and are reaping what we sow.

I think you fall into the category of a fan (a well-spoken one at that) that is just frustrated at the annual flow of criticisms. And I feel ya. It sucks.

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What's so hateful about these?

[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/redskins/redskins-are-finally-on-the-right-path-but-journey-will-be-long/2011/08/03/gIQAJHd1rI_story.html]Redskins are finally on the right path, but journey will be long - The Washington Post[/url]

[url=http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/aug/4/redskins-jarvis-jenkins-provides-burst-off-the-lin/]Redskins rookie Jarvis Jenkins provides burst off the line - Washington Times[/url]

[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d82135a99/article/hope-in-washington-redskins-change-course]NFL.com news: Hope in Washington? Redskins change course[/url]

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The thing is, I really feel like there's teams out there with FAR worse quarterback situations than ours.

The Panthers anyone? The Panthers are looking to have to choose between starting Cam Newton, Jimmy Clausen, and friggin' Derek Anderson. Are people looking forward to the Dalton/Gradkowski/Jordan Palmer battle in Cinci? How is T-Jack vs. Whitehurst any better than Grossman vs. Beck? Career underacheiver vs. career back-up?

But you don't hear the same kind of reservations about those situations, and those situations are approached with class and from an analytical perspective. They're not any better off than we are, but still, people come at it from a football analysis.

When we get to the Redskins though? It's a completely different dynamic. Like I said, there's an almost gleeful dismantling of our status as a football team, despite the moves we've made to get better. There are a lot of teams in rebuild mode, but it's the complete inverse of what we typically get.

Right now we're getting raked over the coals for NOT spending, for deciding to go with our own (and Beck and Grossman are our own, for the most part) and spend wisely. Meanwhile, a division rival is doing the exact thing that doomed so many of our seasons and they're being treated like the friggin' champions of the world.

And my point of contention is that, even if this football team was in a much better place, and we were truly a few pieces away from being a contender...we'd be getting MURDERED right now if we signed that many free agents, and put our cap situation in danger when we have to pay so many guys, spending money on big names while one of our homegrown talents that's been a playmaker for us holds out for money that he deserves. We wouldn't hear the end of it.

I understand and know that going into a season where Rex Grossman and John Beck is less than ideal. Way less. But the level of disrespect towards the team just seems to go beyond "what are they thinking" into thinking we're some sort of comedy side show, when in reality we made real strides towards making the football team better.

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You're generalizing and/or not paying close enough attention

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The Skins are also higher profile and get more national attention than a team like Carolina. Bigger market, more history, etc.

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[quote=NLC1054;820481]The thing is, I really feel like there's teams out there with FAR worse quarterback situations than ours.
[/quote]

I know right? At least we have a former Super Bowl QB that was actually better then McNabb on a team that went 6-10 with many close contests. Maybe Harbraugh helps Smith, Jackson isn't to bad either, but Chad Henne hasn't done crap, Fitzpatrick for now is actually pretty solid. Still I don't get how we get that much of the vote. And this is coming from someone with tempered expectations.

[IMG]http://i52.tinypic.com/110vw9j.png[/IMG]

More people should factor coaching into their votes. Dolphins and Seahawks have worse QB situations if you ask me. 49ers could easily be worse then us as well.

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[quote=Dirtbag59;820526]I know right? At least we have a former Super Bowl QB that was actually better then McNabb on a team that went 6-10 with many close contests. Maybe Harbraugh helps Smith, Jackson isn't to bad either, but Chad Henne hasn't done crap, Fitzpatrick for now is actually pretty solid. Still I don't get how we get that much of the vote. And this is coming from someone with tempered expectations.

[IMG]http://i52.tinypic.com/110vw9j.png[/IMG]

More people should factor coaching into their votes. Dolphins and Seahawks have worse QB situations if you ask me. 49ers could easily be worse then us as well.[/quote]How are the Bengals not a poll option?

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[quote=GTripp0012;820527]How are the Bengals not a poll option?[/quote]

Lol, good point.

SMOOOOOOOOOOOOOT! Get your butt over here and yell at your bosses for me.

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[quote=NLC1054;820481]The thing is, I really feel like there's teams out there with FAR worse quarterback situations than ours.

The Panthers anyone? The Panthers are looking to have to choose between starting Cam Newton, Jimmy Clausen, and friggin' Derek Anderson. Are people looking forward to the Dalton/Gradkowski/Jordan Palmer battle in Cinci? How is T-Jack vs. Whitehurst any better than Grossman vs. Beck? Career underacheiver vs. career back-up?

But you don't hear the same kind of reservations about those situations, and those situations are approached with class and from an analytical perspective. They're not any better off than we are, but still, people come at it from a football analysis.

When we get to the Redskins though? It's a completely different dynamic. Like I said, there's an almost gleeful dismantling of our status as a football team, despite the moves we've made to get better. There are a lot of teams in rebuild mode, but it's the complete inverse of what we typically get.

Right now we're getting raked over the coals for NOT spending, for deciding to go with our own (and Beck and Grossman are our own, for the most part) and spend wisely. Meanwhile, a division rival is doing the exact thing that doomed so many of our seasons and they're being treated like the friggin' champions of the world.

And my point of contention is that, even if this football team was in a much better place, and we were truly a few pieces away from being a contender...we'd be getting MURDERED right now if we signed that many free agents, and put our cap situation in danger when we have to pay so many guys, spending money on big names while one of our homegrown talents that's been a playmaker for us holds out for money that he deserves. We wouldn't hear the end of it.

I understand and know that going into a season where Rex Grossman and John Beck is less than ideal. Way less. But the level of disrespect towards the team just seems to go beyond "what are they thinking" into thinking we're some sort of comedy side show, when in reality we made real strides towards making the football team better.[/quote]

I agree with what Matty is saying about national attention. Seattle's QB situation is tenuous at best, but they're in the corner of the pacifc northwest and play in the NFC West. We're in the nation's capital playing in the NFC East. Bigger stage, more attention paid.

Also, you reference our offseason as compared to the Eagles high profile spending spree. Yes, if we had made those moves we'd be getting raked over the coals. You know why? Because we've gone that route in the past and it's blown up in our face in grand fashion. The Eagles front office consistently does a solid job, so they're drawing praise. Hell, they turned an ex-con into an MVP candidate in one year.

As far as our offseason, yes it's been solid. On paper. We've been practicing for a week. I've seen a few people give us solid marks for our moves, but why would anyone fall over themselves to give us props when every other offseason we've had for a decade+ has been a joke?

As far as the disrespect/comedy sideshow thing... What do you call the whole Sherm Smith bingo caller/Jim Zorn emasculation? The swinging gate play? Gibbs calling two timeouts in a row to cost us a game? Trading for TJ Duckett? The way Shanahan handled the Haynesworth and McNabb situations last year? Vinny Cerrato? WE ARE a comedic sideshow unitl... well, until we're not.

Again, respect is earned.