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Sorry, but the play call was terrible.. Romo couldn't even throw the ball 20 yards last night and we knew what targets he was going after.. 5 man rush, and drop back in coverage while padding over Whitten/Bryant would of been the better Defensive Call..

Defense played well all night, but the offensive play calling was horrid. I feel like Rex Grossman was held back from playing his type of football Monday night.. If they would of unloaded like they did the first two games and stopped all the timid play calling then things might of went another way..

I dont remember seeing 1 bootleg monday night

Re: WP: Redskins’ Hall takes shots at ref and own coaches after 18-16 loss to Cowboys
 

[quote=SmootSmack;841795]I mean a lot of people made some glaring mistakes yesterday. Barnes and his PI, Jammal Brown and his poor blocking in the 4th, Kyle and his playcalling, Rex and his ugly INT and fumble, Gaffney and his poor clock management, Banks and his poor field management, Rocca and his poor hands, and so on...[B]but no one but Hall went and threw others under the bus after the game.[/B]

If this thread was only about Hall blowing the play the thread wouldn't have lasted this long. But it's more than that[/quote]

I will be curious to see how Shanahan handles this situation. Let's hope it is handled better than the Haynesworth circus last year. Otherwise, we are in for another circus year.

Also, there needs to be locker room leadership from someone (Fletch?) to go up to Hall and smack him around for saying stupid things like that.

Hall deserves all the criticism that goes his way, however, players like him happen in the league. I hope Shanahan can take care of this situation.

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Hall is Hall... He's emotional and wants to win. He wont hold back those emotions, and I think he played a good game Monday night, and hes been playing well so far this season.

Could be worse... He could be Commartie from the Jets and have like 15 PI calls

Re: WP: Redskins’ Hall takes shots at ref and own coaches after 18-16 loss to Cowboys
 

[quote=Bucket;841809]Hall is Hall... He's emotional and wants to win. He wont hold back those emotions, and I think he played a good game Monday night, and hes been playing well so far this season.

Could be worse... He could be Commartie from the Jets and have like 15 PI calls[/quote]

But he's also a team captain and should know better. And if not, the team needs to figure out how to make him know better.

Re: WP: Redskins’ Hall takes shots at ref and own coaches after 18-16 loss to Cowboys
 

[quote=Bucket;841809]Hall is Hall... He's emotional and wants to win. He wont hold back those emotions, and I think he played a good game Monday night, and hes been playing well so far this season.

Could be worse... He could be Commartie from the Jets and have like 15 PI calls[/quote]

Ok, did anyone else think this post was going to end with "kids" and not "PI calls"

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[quote=SmootSmack;841811]Ok, did anyone else think this post was going to end with "kids" and not "PI calls"[/quote]

LMAO I thought the same thing. I even started thinking up a response like "what do his kids have to do with this" and I think I was like PI calls? Where did I get kids from. GC SS, GC indeed.

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Hall needs to just shut the hell up and cover his receiver

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I don't know how much to trust the PFF grades, given that the grades are done from tape of the television feed variety, and they have no choice to assign grades without knowing the coverages, but Hall and Kevin Barnes are tied for 81st in their corner grades this year (95 qualified).

The no. 1 corner, per their rankings: Carlos Rogers.

I have to think that when Phillip Buchanon comes back, there will be a need for his abilities. I don't know whose going to get displaced, but PB can make us a better team.

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[quote=SmootSmack;841811]Ok, did anyone else think this post was going to end with "kids" and not "PI calls"[/quote]
Lol!

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[quote=SmootSmack;841811]Ok, did anyone else think this post was going to end with "kids" and not "PI calls"[/quote]


............:goodjob:

Re: WP: Redskins’ Hall takes shots at ref and own coaches after 18-16 loss to Cowboys
 

[quote=Ruhskins;841759]Fans in here become crybabies when it comes to this guy and it is getting kinda old. You'd think there'd be threads complaining about Grossman, the playcalling, the RBs, etc., etc.[/quote]


The only reason is his mouth vaults him past those other issues. Had he said nothing or said "hey, we can't make the calls, we just have to execute" then this thread wouldn't even exist today. When Grossman or anybody else starts throwing coaches and other people under the bus after they've failed to execute and talked trash leading up, I'm 100% positive you'll see a thread on that person as well.

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[quote=SmootSmack;841811]Ok, did anyone else think this post was going to end with "kids" and not "PI calls"[/quote]

:laughing2

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[quote=Bucket;841809]Hall is Hall... He's emotional and wants to win. He wont hold back those emotions, and[B] I think he played a good game Monday night[/B], and hes been playing well so far this season.

Could be worse... He could be Commartie from the Jets and have like 15 PI calls[/quote]

Thats the thing, he did. His play was solid all night long. Unfortuanately for Hall, he also gave up the play that ended the game. Whose fault? Well Hall's fault obviously, but the assist came from Haslett calling the same exact blitz 3 plays in a row. BUT Hall should have kept his mouth shut.


Oh Commartie, that overpaid POS got owned by the dangerous Jason Campbell-led passing attack of the Raiders. I watched most of the game, he's miserable. We should be very thankful hes not on the field for us.

Re: WP: Redskins’ Hall takes shots at ref and own coaches after 18-16 loss to Cowboys
 

[quote=GTripp0012;841819]I don't know how much to trust the PFF grades, given that the grades are done from tape of the television feed variety, and they have no choice to assign grades without knowing the coverages, but Hall and Kevin Barnes are tied for 81st in their corner grades this year (95 qualified).

The no. 1 corner, per their rankings: Carlos Rogers.
[/quote]

Well, at least it's not Champ!

I had totally forgotten about Buchanon. It's like finding a $20 bill in your dryer!

Re: WP: Redskins’ Hall takes shots at ref and own coaches after 18-16 loss to Cowboys
 

Not surprising

[url=http://www.redskins.com/news-and-events/article-1/Hall-Takes-Full-Responsibility-For-3rd-and-21/1f83e320-281f-4a18-bee3-d2d09d240374?utm]Hall Takes 'Full Responsibility' For 3rd-and-21[/url]

Re: WP: Redskins’ Hall takes shots at ref and own coaches after 18-16 loss to Cowboys
 

Hall just wants to win man I don't hate on him at all nevr have

Re: WP: Redskins’ Hall takes shots at ref and own coaches after 18-16 loss to Cowboys
 

[quote=SmootSmack;842071]Not surprising

[url=http://www.redskins.com/news-and-events/article-1/Hall-Takes-Full-Responsibility-For-3rd-and-21/1f83e320-281f-4a18-bee3-d2d09d240374?utm]Hall Takes 'Full Responsibility' For 3rd-and-21[/url][/quote]

Hindsight is always 20/20 eh, Hall?

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I said last week that Hall was classless after his Tony Romo comments. Some of you looked at me like I was crazy. Now I shall present you with my follow up response through the use of beautiful "I was right" music.
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[url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7030614/deangelo-hall-washington-redskins-explains-overzealous-rant]DeAngelo Hall of Washington Redskins explains his 'overzealous' rant - ESPN[/url]

After reading this article, I am pleased at the way that the team and Hall responded to this situation. I still believe Hall should know better and act better, especially since he is a team captain. In the heat of the moment, everyone makes stupid decisions, and clearly Hall made one. However, I like the response from the coaches and the players; and I do agree this is nothing compared to what happened in the past.

One concern that I've had about this team is their ability to deal with issues like this one. And from what I read in this article, they seem to be handling it much better than before.

Re: WP: Redskins’ Hall takes shots at ref and own coaches after 18-16 loss to Cowboys
 

[quote=SmootSmack;842071]Not surprising

[url=http://www.redskins.com/news-and-events/article-1/Hall-Takes-Full-Responsibility-For-3rd-and-21/1f83e320-281f-4a18-bee3-d2d09d240374?utm]Hall Takes 'Full Responsibility' For 3rd-and-21[/url][/quote]


I don't even care that he "takes responsibility" for the blown coverage. I would him rather not say anything or simply say "we didn't execute". I'm not going to hate on Hall for that play because he's been pretty decent for the most part this season. The defense has been stellar on 3rd downs and he's a part of that as well. The thing that irks me the most is last year how he trashed Haslet for not putting him on the best receiver, claimed it was "his" team, and still allows the big plays from WRs. Just shut up is my point.

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D-lo: still cannot be trusted in pure man-to-man coverage.

Let's see...which games will our cover-0 blitz be torched thanks to Hall.

Kolb and Romo have had their moment of glory. Cam Newton might...Tom Brady sure as hell will...Sidney Rice has the talent....

Re: WP: Redskins’ Hall takes shots at ref and own coaches after 18-16 loss to Cowboys
 

[quote=NC_Skins;842276]I don't even care that he "takes responsibility" for the blown coverage. I would him rather not say anything or simply say "we didn't execute". I'm not going to hate on Hall for that play because he's been pretty decent for the most part this season. The defense has been stellar on 3rd downs and he's a part of that as well. The thing that irks me the most is last year how he trashed Haslet for not putting him on the best receiver, claimed it was "his" team, and still allows the big plays from WRs. Just shut up is my point.[/quote]

I kinda agree with NC here. I like that Hall mans up and apologizes and takes responsibility and all that, but he wouldn't have to do it if he had just kept his mouth shut.

I also see Hall's point as well though, he was severely pissed about losing this game, and he didn't cool down, and then they stuck a microphone in front of his face. I'd probably have reacted the same way. Some people wear their emotions on their sleeve, and Hall is one of them. Still though, I hope this game is fresh on their minds when the Cowboys come to Fedex.

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[quote=NC_Skins;842276]I don't even care that he "takes responsibility" for the blown coverage. I would him rather not say anything or simply say "we didn't execute". I'm not going to hate on Hall for that play because he's been pretty decent for the most part this season. The defense has been stellar on 3rd downs and he's a part of that as well. The thing that irks me the most is last year how he trashed Haslet for not putting him on the best receiver, claimed it was "his" team, and still allows the big plays from WRs. Just shut up is my point.[/quote]100% agree.

There are a lot of poor cover corners in the NFL. If Hall's behavior on the field and in the locker room wasn't so out of line with all of the most similar NFL players, I really don't think he'd be such a polarizing player. I think we'd all just accept him for who he is: a Washington Redskin. But the fact that he acts like a man who we don't want to define "Washington Redskin" is what makes him so polarizing.