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From ESPN:
Putting the final snaps of Albert Haynesworth's career with the Patriots under the microscope after New England released the veteran defensive tackle Tuesday:
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Believe it or not, Haynesworth's first three snaps of his final full drive (or one that didn't end with a one-play touchdown) with the Patriots were actually pretty solid. On the first play after the Giants took over early in the second quarter following a Tom Brady interception, Haynesworth jetted right past David Diehl and nearly blew up a running play at the handoff (see screenshot above). On second down, he got good push against guard Chris Snee and the Giants dropped a pass.
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After an encroachment penalty gave the Giants a new set of downs, Haynesworth came about as close as he had to registering a sack, drawing a holding penalty (above) while still nearly getting to quarterback Eli Manning. If his day had ended there, Haynesworth would probably still be on the Patriots' roster.

But things went downhill. Quickly. And Haynesworth spent his final five snaps either being pushed around or on the ground.
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On 1st and 20, the Giants tried to set up a little screen. Haynesworth attacked and got left eating a face full of turf when Snee released his block to get up field and block. The pass was incomplete, but Haynesworth was left flopping around on his back (above).
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On 2nd and 20, the Giants ran a draw to D.J. Ware. Haynesworth's penetration should have helped blow the play up, especially when Ware got pinned behind Snee. Instead, Snee pancaked Haynesworth (above), allowing a 10-yard gain.
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On 3rd and 10, the Giants again went to the air, but Haynesworth got swallowed up and stumbled to the ground at the line of scrimmage. At times, he simply looked unable to maintain his balance during the series.

Haynesworth appeared for just one more play later in the quarter, providing a solid third-down pass rush, even if he again lost his balance coming off the edge (in his defense, he was double-teamed on this particular play).

He was back on the field after another Brady interception gave the Giants a short field in the third quarter and it would be his already well-documented final snap in which Diehl pushed him around on Brandon Jacobs' 10-yard touchdown run.

A heated conversation reportedly followed with assistant coach Pepper Johnson after the play. And less than 48 hours later, the Haynesworth era was over in New England.

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[quote=Schneed10;857382]Looks like the original thread on Haynesworth where I was debating the sense in trading him got locked at some point. I tried to show up there to eat some crow, so I guess I'll do that here.

Kudos to Shanahan for getting rid of him, I questioned the logic of it but today more than ever it was obvious Shanahan was right. He's changing the culture and in the long run that's a positive. Too bad we're 3-5, while the Pats continue their culture of winning even with Haynesworth in tow. Guess it goes to show QBs like Tom Brady make more of a difference than any other single factor, culture included.

But kudos to those on this site who saw Haynesworth as the lost cause that he was. I figured that being a moneygrubbing whore, he'd be motivated to earn one more big contract. Many of you guys saw him as simply being a steaming pile. I'm stupid. You're smart. I was wrong. You were right. You're the best. I'm the worst. You're very good-looking. I'm not attractive.

I'm glad Shanahan made the move. Now lets go out and find a QB like Brady so we can keep winning no matter how many cowturds we have in our locker room.[/quote]I echo Schneed's thoughts, then and now.

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I'm sure Philly will pick him up... Andy ried and those guys know more than ne one else in this league so those sense of entitlement jerk offs will scoop him I'm sure and have some lame excuse as to y it will "be different this time" smh lol hate Philly.

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[quote=Schneed10;857382]Kudos to Shanahan for getting rid of him, I questioned the logic of it but today more than ever it was obvious Shanahan was right. He's changing the culture and in the long run that's a positive. Too bad we're 3-5, while the Pats continue their culture of winning even with Haynesworth in tow. [B]Guess it goes to show QBs like Tom Brady make more of a difference than any other single factor, culture included.[/B][/quote]

Well, unlike Shanahan, BB didn't wait to release him or try to "teach him a lesson." Granted that the Pats really invested close to zero on him (a 5th rounder for the Pats is nothing for a team that constantly has multiple picks in the first couple of rounds).

As I've said before, in the end this isn't much of a victory, since it clearly shows that this guy was an issue and the MS should've gotten rid of him as soon as he started here (and get that 3rd rounder that according to rumors got offered for AH).

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Are we seriously still talking about Haynesworthless?

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It was only a matter of time. I'm surprised the NE experiment lasted this long.

Philly can have him.

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[quote=NC_Skins;857432]Are we seriously still talking about Haynesworthless?[/quote]

I think this thread probably represents the Warpath's post-mortem discussion on the career of Albert Haynesworth. All questions about his character and career arc have been answered at this point. Once this thread runs its course, he'll be history around here.

Of course I thought that about Offiss and Patrick Ramsey, so who knows.

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The Eagles are gonna look really bad picking him up. Beyond desperate. I dont see how they make the playoffs with or without this guy. If Reid picks him up, seriously start to wonder about the future of the Eagles without Reid.

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[quote=NC_Skins;857432]Are we seriously still talking about Haynesworthless?[/quote]

People will continue to talk about this because they think it is some sort of victory for the Redskins, when it really isn't.

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[url=http://www.nesn.com/2011/11/warren-sapp-slams-albert-haynesworth-calls-him-a-turd-who-was-only-motivated-by-money.html]Warren Sapp Slams Albert Haynesworth, Calls Him a 'Turd' Who Was Only Motivated by Money - New England Patriots - NESN.com[/url]

Sapp utterly destroys the guy...and a fascinating tidbit relayed to Fletch from Sapp.

[QUOTE]"London Fletcher was sitting [in the Redskins' locker room] one day, and the media was there," Sapp said. "Their lockers were side by side. And the media was talking to [Haynesworth] about this $100 million contract. I was like, 'Wow.' It's one thing to get a $100 million contract. It's another thing to try to collect it. That's the key to any contract is collecting it, not getting it. You've got to collect it in the NFL. They'll come to you after two years in the NFL and tell you they're renegotiating and those things. After the media left, he tapped London and said, 'Man, I just wish it was six years (to get more money per season).' That should show you what the man is. I never saw it in his play, so when I saw the money, I was like, you have an unmotivated guy who stepped on Andre Gurode's head. Stepped on his head in a football game. But now he's the first $100 million man? I was dumbfounded by it. I'm like, who was he in his first five years in Tennessee.[/QUOTE]

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[quote=Ruhskins;857441]People will continue to talk about this because they think it is some sort of victory for the Redskins, when it really isn't.[/quote]

Well, there were some strange silliness among the fanbase about KEEPING HIM ANOTHER YEAR to "punish" him and make him suffer. If anything, I'm absolutely glad those fools were absolutely wrong in their assessment.

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;857467]Well, there were some strange silliness among the fanbase about KEEPING HIM ANOTHER YEAR to "punish" him and make him suffer. [B]If anything, I'm absolutely glad those fools were absolutely wrong in their assessment.[/B][/quote]

Yeah I never understood that group at all.

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[quote=Ruhskins;857428]Well, unlike Shanahan, BB didn't wait to release him or try to "teach him a lesson." Granted that the Pats really invested close to zero on him (a 5th rounder for the Pats is nothing for a team that constantly has multiple picks in the first couple of rounds).

As I've said before, in the end this isn't much of a victory, since it clearly shows that this guy was an issue and the [B]MS should've gotten rid of him as soon as he started here[/B] (and get that 3rd rounder that according to rumors got offered for AH).[/quote]

I think you've got to be a lot more diplomatic towards MS & Allen; they both were knew & their boss just paid an exorbitant sum for this guy. Easy for us to say he "should've" gotten rid of him, we don't have to tell our boss his $40 mil is gone after 1 year. MS did the right thing by confronting him & saying; 'if you take the bonus $ we expect you to play in our system.'

Given AH's attitude, this was a no-win situation for MS. He tried to get an adequate return on the investment. Now that he's been cut by NE, MS & Allen are vindicated to some degree. Of course, it's not a "victory" for the organization overall, since Vinny signed him in the first place. But in terms of moving on from that terrible signing, it's good for the organization's rep.

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Fat Al claimed off waivers by Tampa.

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funny warren sapp slams him, then he gets claimed by the bucs

i think my hanes are worth more then haynesworth at this point

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[quote=Kindoy;857593]funny warren sapp slams him, then he gets claimed by the bucs

i think my hanes are worth more then haynesworth at this point[/quote]
They're desperate since Gerald McCoy got IR'd. They're doomed now. I can see it now, Fatal Bert blows a gap assignment and Turner or Stewart takes it to da house. Mwahahaha.

That punk voodoo guy they have at Raymond James deserves some suffering. That stadium is like kryptonite to us.

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[quote=12thMan;857592]Fat Al claimed off waivers by Tampa.[/quote]

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;857595]They're desperate since Gerald McCoy got IR'd. They're doomed now. I can see it now, Fatal Bert blows a gap assignment and Turner or Stewart takes it to da house. Mwahahaha.

That punk voodoo guy they have at Raymond James deserves some suffering. That stadium is like [B][U]kryptonite[/U][/B] to us.[/quote]

I thought the skins finding the endzone was!!!!!!

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It's funny. We came into the season expecting to have revenge games against Haynesworth and McNabb. Now it looks like we won't even get a chance to face McNabb. Ironically the only revenge game we did end up having was a loss against Los and the 9ers.

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[quote=Dirtbag59;857606]It's funny. We came into the season expecting to have revenge games against Haynesworth and McNabb. Now it looks like we won't even get a chance to face McNabb. Ironically the only revenge game we did end up having was a loss against Los and the 9ers.[/quote]

How did that big REVENGE GAME against the Eagles turn out?????? Oh yeah thats right, came out and played like garbage.

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[quote=CrustyRedskin;857610]How did that big REVENGE GAME against the Eagles turn out?????? Oh yeah thats right, came out and played like garbage.[/quote]

Thats a different type of revenge game.

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For anyone wondering, the Bucs were the only team to place a claim on Albert Haynesworh.
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[quote=Dirtbag59;857613]Thats a different type of revenge game.[/quote]

Ok whats gona happen when play Minn & NE?? Thats right come out and play like garbage!!!! :silly:

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;857467]Well, there were some strange silliness among the fanbase about KEEPING HIM ANOTHER YEAR to "punish" him and make him suffer.[B] If anything, I'm absolutely glad those fools were absolutely wrong in their assessment.[/B][/quote]

You know I was one of those fools that wanted to see fat and ugly rot away on the bench. The reason for my thinking was that i was sick and tired of our way of buying and dying by high named players. Today all I care about is getting us on the right track towards a respectable team not FRANCHISE, but a team.

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[quote=freddyg12;857490]I think you've got to be a lot more diplomatic towards MS & Allen; they both were knew & their boss just paid an exorbitant sum for this guy. Easy for us to say he "should've" gotten rid of him, we don't have to tell our boss his $40 mil is gone after 1 year. MS did the right thing by confronting him & saying; 'if you take the bonus $ we expect you to play in our system.'

Given AH's attitude, this was a no-win situation for MS. He tried to get an adequate return on the investment. Now that he's been cut by NE, MS & Allen are vindicated to some degree. Of course, it's not a "victory" for the organization overall, since Vinny signed him in the first place. But in terms of moving on from that terrible signing, it's good for the organization's rep.[/quote]

You have a timeline problem here.

Shanahan and Allen joined the Redskins in Jan 2010. The $21M check was not handed over to Haynesworth until April 2010. They - - actually Shanahan and Haslett - - had about 10 weeks to make a decision on what to do about paying Haynesworth and how they would be playing Haynesworth. They had plenty of time to ditch him and end what turned out to be a giant goat rodeo.

Now, we will NEVER know if they made an independent decision to keep him and mold him into the Shanahan/Haslett system or if the word came down from upstairs that the decision on Albert had already been made. But understand that while they are totally innocent when it comes to the original Haynesworth signing, they have some complicity in what happened last season.

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[quote=Ruhskins;857428]Well, unlike Shanahan, BB didn't wait to release him or try to "teach him a lesson." Granted that the Pats really invested close to zero on him (a 5th rounder for the Pats is nothing for a team that constantly has multiple picks in the first couple of rounds).

As I've said before, in the end this isn't much of a victory, since it clearly shows that this guy was an issue and the MS should've gotten rid of him as soon as he started here (and get that 3rd rounder that according to rumors got offered for AH).[/quote]

Two totally different situations. The Pats had a hell of a lot less invested in AH. AH took the huge payout from the Redskins so they were not going to reward him after paying that amount of jack. Pretty much a common sense move for the Redskins.

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[quote=skinsfan69;857639]Two totally different situations. The Pats had a hell of a lot less invested in AH. AH took the huge payout from the Redskins so they were not going to reward him after paying that amount of jack. Pretty much a common sense move for the Redskins.[/quote]

I do not believe Shanahan cared much about the payout involved as long as it didn't affect the cap. What he saw probably was an extremely talented guy that could pay huge dividends if it worked out. Remember, he's a new guy then and didn't know AH's mind or history that well. He was making a decision that had a degree of uncertainty involved. It's clear he wasn't the only one willing to take a chance on hoping AH pans out.

Ultimately, the loss was more psychological than tangible. A toxic workplace was the ultimate loss for the players on the team. Draft picks are valuable for a rebuilding team, but at the same time, the loss of a 3rd rounder in exchange for a 5th rounder is not the end of the world.

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I love how some Bucs fans are loving this move. I dunno. Maybe it'll work out for him. He's finally back in the 4-3.

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[quote=DynamiteRave;857650]I love how some Bucs fans are loving this move. I dunno. Maybe it'll work out for him. He's finally back in the 4-3.[/quote]

You can't fix fat lazy and stupid.

EDIT: I take that back. As a fat, lazy, and stupid person who is actively trying to form better habits and become a better person, I realize it is doable. But you have to have the willpower to want to do that, and that's what's missing from Big Al.

So to summarize, what separates me from Big Al is I'm not satisfied with myself in any shape or form, and as long as he has millions in his bank account he's probably happy giving half ass effort and being a prick.

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shanny's Presser today was hilarious when asked about AH

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[quote=skinsfaninok;857657]shanny's Presser today was hilarious when asked about AH[/quote]

Cliff Notes please.

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[quote=NC_Skins;857659]Cliff Notes please.[/quote]


2 lazy lol

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[quote=skinsfaninok;857660]2 lazy lol[/quote]

Come on bro, this is the internet, it took me under a minute to find the quote.

[quote=CSN Washington]
The Redskins obviously weren’t interested in claiming defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth off waivers, but for kicks, Shanahan was asked about his interest in a “two-time All-Pro defensive tackle.”

“Who’s the player?,” Shanahan asked.

After hearing it was Big Al, Shanahan laughed and said: “I was going, ‘I usually get most of those. A two-time All-Pro that has been cut, I usually remember that.’ Now I know why I forgot.”

Haynesworth was claimed by Tampa Bay, which was one of his main suitors before he signed with the Redskins.
[/quote]

[url=http://www.csnwashington.com/11/09/11/Redskins-notes-Choice-ready-to-go/landing.html?blockID=591142&feedID=6355]Redskins notes: Choice ready to go[/url]

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[quote=mooby;857661]Come on bro, this is the internet, it took me under a minute to find the quote.



[URL="http://www.csnwashington.com/11/09/11/Redskins-notes-Choice-ready-to-go/landing.html?blockID=591142&feedID=6355"]Redskins notes: Choice ready to go[/URL][/quote]


I know I'll take the heat for this 1 lol

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Can we please stop the madness. Please close, lock, burn this thread.

Apparently, Haynesworth's so fat and lazy that, even though he's moved on to a second team, his big fat ass can still be found on Warpath forums.

Please, everyone join me in the Anti-Albert Pledge: "I promise I will never, ever, EVER again post on any thread related to Haynesworth."

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What step in the program is that?
......I gotta' call my sponsor......

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[quote=JoeRedskin;857663]Can we please stop the madness. Please close, lock, burn this thread.

Apparently, Haynesworth's so fat and lazy that, even though he's moved on to a second team, his big fat ass can still be found on Warpath forums.

Please, everyone join me in the Anti-Albert Pledge: "I promise I will never, ever, EVER again post on any thread related to Haynesworth."[/quote]

I wish this would really happen, but I doubt it.