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[quote=NC_Skins;867386]What exactly should he do?[/quote]

Buy up all tickets from holders who sell them to visiting team supporters at double the price and sell them at a lower price to devout skins fans, then write it off as investment taxes, and invest the negative return money then show a loss to save money on your overall taxes.

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Yeah its terrible, and i dont understand it. I do know that Pats, Phili, Giants Ravens, have had much more success in the area but like when Dallas is in town it wtf? Why why, id give my tickets away befor i sold them to opposing supporters. Snyder should do something about that.
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Granted Washington is a very transient city with a lot of people from all over but the bottom line is, you change it by winning plain and simple. When a team is successful their fans show up, when they don't why will some of them bother with it?

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[quote=irish;867392]Like they teach you in Pee Wee football, play until you hear the whistle. No matter how dead the play looked there was no whistle and no reason for Hall to let up. Welker didnt try to block Hall because he could tell Hall had already quit on the play and therefore didnt need to "waste" time blocking Hall.[/quote]

Yeah I don't think that's why Welker quit on the play himself. But to each their own

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[quote=TheSmurfs22;867398]Yeah its terrible, and i dont understand it. I do know that Pats, Phili, Giants Ravens, have had much more success in the area but like when Dallas is in town it wtf? Why why, id give my tickets away befor i sold them to opposing supporters. Snyder should do something about that.
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Granted Washington is a very transient city with a lot of people from all over but the bottom line is, you change it by winning plain and simple. When a team is successful their fans show up, when they don't why will some of them bother with it?[/quote]
If the Redskins would stop sucking year after year, it would not be a problem.

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[quote=CrustyRedskin;867396]Buy up all tickets from holders who sell them to visiting team supporters at double the price and sell them at a lower price to devout skins fans, then write it off as investment taxes, and invest the negative return money then show a loss to save money on your overall taxes.[/quote]


That will happen about two weeks after your Fairy Godmother shows up and grants you three wishes...

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[quote=TheSmurfs22;867398]Yeah its terrible, and i dont understand it. I do know that Pats, Phili, Giants Ravens, have had much more success in the area but like when Dallas is in town it wtf? Why why, id give my tickets away befor i sold them to opposing supporters. Snyder should do something about that.
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Granted Washington is a very transient city with a lot of people from all over but the bottom line is, you change it by winning plain and simple. When a team is successful their fans show up, when they don't why will some of them bother with it?[/quote]

Your right on with that, winning would solve some problems around here.

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[quote=sportscurmudgeon;867404]That will happen about two weeks after your Fairy Godmother shows up and grants you three wishes...[/quote]

If she'd just wake me from this 20year nightmare of losing, without the 3 wishes id be fine with that.

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[quote=irish;867325]Hall is a bum. Hopefully he only has 3 more games in a Redskins uniform.[/quote]

Seriously. I think cutting him today would be justifiable. He's terrible. He simply cannot cover. But he's a playmaker, right? Nope, not seeing that this year either. For him to pick up that flag and throw it, drawing another 15 yard penalty?? Total mental meltdown.

I'm not sure if it's players or coaches who appoint the team captains, but it's a total embarrassment that Trent Williams and D-Hall both have the "C" patch on the front of their jerseys.

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[quote=GMScud;867427]Seriously. I think cutting him today would be justifiable. He's terrible. He simply cannot cover. But he's a playmaker, right? Nope, not seeing that this year either. For him to pick up that flag and throw it, drawing another 15 yard penalty?? Total mental meltdown.

I'm not sure if it's players or coaches who appoint the team captains, but it's a total embarrassment that Trent Williams and D-Hall both have the "C" patch on the front of their jerseys.[/quote]

Word...

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[quote=Ruhskins;867353]See I am not a Hall apologist, but I am just amazed at how much people hate on him for stupid things. If you look at that play from Hall's perspective, it looked like Gomes and Doughty were going to push Gronkowski out of bounds. At full speed, it looked like Gronkowski was going out of bounds, if Halls leap towards him and Gronkowski is out of bounds, that's a 15-yard PF. BTW, it was Hall that eventually ran down Gronkowski during that play.

The flag thing was a stupid mistake and he deserves all the heat for it. But where is the Haynesworth/McNabb treatment for Hall from Shanahan, if he's such a team cancer? Shouldn't Shanahan have benched Hall the same way he benched Williams for that stupid PF during the Eagles game? Once again, I am not apologizing for the guy, but I feel that some people blow his situation out of proportion.

[B]Hall is what he is and it sucks. As a player he is very frustrating b/c he can go from making a good play on moment and making a terrible player the next. One thing is criticizing the guy for this, another is to this childish/girlish/pouty hate for the guy and b*tch at every single thing he does. Take that mindless sh*t elsewhere.[/B][/quote]

When his positive plays stick out, they stick out, but honestly when was his last game he was great? Probably his 4 pick game against the bears. He hasn't done much since.

You bring up a good point about shanahan not benching him. I agree. Why didn't he. My thinking was that Shanahan wanted his most experienced corners out there, because he doesn't want Brandyn Thompson covering Welker or someone like that. Shanahan really wanted to win that game more than any yesterday. I say if hall did that against, Carolina, or New York, he's benched.
[url=http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d824ee33b/Gronkowski-refuses-to-go-down]NFL Videos: Gronkowski refuses to go down[/url]

See for yourselves what hall was doing on the play. He just stands there. I mean he doesn't even like stand there agressivly like he wants to even lunge or push him, he just stands there. I also want to smackdown Reed Doughty on that play, for poor tackling. He needs to go as well, not just for this play but for his abuse he gets from opposing teams targeting him all day.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;867430]When his positive plays stick out, they stick out, but honestly when was his last game he was great? Probably his 4 pick game against the bears. He hasn't done much since.

You bring up a good point about shanahan not benching him. I agree. Why didn't he. My thinking was that Shanahan wanted his most experienced corners out there, because he doesn't want Brandyn Thompson covering Welker or someone like that. Shanahan really wanted to win that game more than any yesterday. I say if hall did that against, Carolina, or New York, he's benched.
[url=http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d824ee33b/Gronkowski-refuses-to-go-down]NFL Videos: Gronkowski refuses to go down[/url]

See for yourselves what hall was doing on the play. He just stands there. I mean he doesn't even like stand there agressivly like he wants to even lunge or push him, he just stands there. I also want to smackdown Reed Doughty on that play, for poor tackling. He needs to go as well, not just for this play but for his abuse he gets from opposing teams targeting him all day.[/quote]

The last thing that I will say about this issue is that even his biggest critics will admit that Hall always gives it all on the field. And no he doesn't stand there, if you see the video both Hall and Welker were running towards the play and stop right when it appears that Gronkowski was out of bounds. I don't think anyone realized Gronkowski had not stepped out of bounds, even Welker. Once again, I think people are completely blowing this out of proportion and it shows people like to complaining for the sake of complaining.

As I said, I'm not a Hall apologist and he did his share of mistakes (as did a lot of people) on Sunday the deserves plenty of criticism. But please don't come to me with this bullsh*t argument and expect not to get called out on it.

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[quote=GMScud;867427]Seriously. I think cutting him today would be justifiable. He's terrible. He simply cannot cover. But he's a playmaker, right? Nope, not seeing that this year either. For him to pick up that flag and throw it, drawing another 15 yard penalty?? Total mental meltdown.

I'm not sure if it's players or coaches who appoint the team captains, but it's a total embarrassment that Trent Williams and D-Hall both have the "C" patch on the front of their jerseys.[/quote]This to me, is the Mike Shanahan era in Washington. The talent is not better and the culture is not different. Players like Andre Carter don't fit what we are trying to do, players like Rocky McIntosh and DeAngelo Hall do fit.

And that's just the defensive side of things. To me, the entire resume for Mike and Kyle having any clue what they are doing falls within the last three or four weeks during a lost season. After the Week 10 game against Miami, you would have been hard pressed to find any evidence that we knew how to build anything. I think there is some now that we've produced 20+ points in four straight weeks. But the full season numbers are still really awful.

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[quote=GMScud;867427]Seriously. I think cutting him today would be justifiable. He's terrible. He simply cannot cover. But he's a playmaker, right? Nope, not seeing that this year either. For him to pick up that flag and throw it, drawing another 15 yard penalty?? Total mental meltdown.

[B]I'm not sure if it's players or coaches who appoint the team captains, but it's a total embarrassment that Trent Williams and D-Hall both have the "C" patch on the front of their jerseys.[/B][/quote]

And you hit the nail in the head. [B]THIS is the bigger issue.[/B] What happened to Shanahan the disciplinarian? Is he not getting on these guys b/c they haven't bruised his ego like McNabb and Haynesworth did? Where is the change of culture? Hell even sitting Hall for one or two series would have been something.

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It was very nice to see us so competitive against the Pats. While a win is obviously preferable, knowing that Pats fans were sweating bullets is a happy thing. That's all the smack I've got.

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Smack Down:

Rex Grossman: Sorry, but Rex Grossman does deserve some smack down. His pocket presence is down right awful - and that resulted in a New England defensive TD. I love the fact that he can come back from an awful play and make a great play - he was making some awesome plays against the Patriots - but those bad plays often tend to be really, really bad plays.

Ryan Kerrigan: Easily my favorite Redskins player right now (but Roy Helu is moving up pretty darn quickly) but come on man, RK you have GOT to make that tackle! That was just plain embarrassing. Then again, it may not be completely his fault. I think he's playing almost every single snap, and he just appeared to be spent.

Brian Orakpo: Did you play today?

DeAngelo Hall: Come on man - your actions on the field makes absolutely NO SENSE whatsoever. Why did you even think it was a great idea to pick up the ref's flag and throw it? If you want to throw flags that much, retire and become an official. Otherwise, you're hurting our team!

But as for studs:

Brandon Banks: For throwing like a girl (I'm just teasing ya) but making a great play to Santana Moss. I'd love to see more stuff like this from the Redskins.

To our rookies on the offensive line: A little shaky at first, but a real solid day after that. Sure, the defense of the Patriots is a bit soft, but I thought you guys stepped up and played pretty solid - especially in place of J. Brown and T. Williams not playing.

Roy Helu: WOW! Just, WOW!!!

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[quote=Ruhskins;867432]The last thing that I will say about this issue is that even his biggest critics will admit that Hall always gives it all on the field. And no he doesn't stand there, if you see the video both Hall and Welker were running towards the play and stop right when it appears that Gronkowski was out of bounds. I don't think anyone realized Gronkowski had not stepped out of bounds, even Welker. Once again, I think people are completely blowing this out of proportion and it shows people like to complaining for the sake of complaining.

As I said, I'm not a Hall apologist and he did his share of mistakes (as did a lot of people) on Sunday the deserves plenty of criticism. But please don't come to me with this [B]bullsh*t argument and expect not to get called out on it[/B].[/quote]

The last thing I'm going to say on this is I was just watching C'Mon Man on MNF, and guess who made it and on what play...DHall, and not on the flag throwing play, on the Not Tackling Gronkowski play. You seem to be the only person who is defending this guy...Are you DHall? So no, my argument isn't BS, its perfectly acceptable considering there are many people in my boat towards him sucking on that play than you making excuses that "Oh he thought he was going out of bounds." Look at ESPN's replay, Gronkowski was a good couple of yards away from the sideline with DHall just standing there. Get you eyes checked man, I had to look again after you said he "looked like he wasn't going to be pushed out of bounds and Dhall didn't want to get a PF for late hit out of bounds"

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[quote=CultBrennan59;867540]The last thing I'm going to say on this is I was just watching C'Mon Man on MNF, and guess who made it and on what play...DHall, and not on the flag throwing play, on the Not Tackling Gronkowski play. You seem to be the only person who is defending this guy...Are you DHall? So no, my argument isn't BS, its perfectly acceptable considering there are many people in my boat towards him sucking on that play than you making excuses that "Oh he thought he was going out of bounds." Look at ESPN's replay, Gronkowski was a good couple of yards away from the sideline with DHall just standing there. Get you eyes checked man, I had to look again after you said he "looked like he wasn't going to be pushed out of bounds and Dhall didn't want to get a PF for late hit out of bounds"[/quote]

You think what you want to think, I have criticized Hall a lot (hell, I think he should've been benched for the flag incident), I just think people are blowing this out of proportion. Meanwhile the guys that completely whiffed on the play, Gomes and Doughty, are not even being discussed.

So keep with your whining complaints, I mean after all it seems that every year you find yourself rooting against the Redskins. No wonder every now and then I call you a Cowboys fan. Shouldn't you be posting another Suck for Luck thread? But whatever, I guess you must be upset b/c your team choked against the Giants yesterday. :doh:

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[quote=CultBrennan59;867540]The last thing I'm going to say on this is I was just watching C'Mon Man on MNF, and guess who made it and on what play...DHall, and not on the flag throwing play, on the Not Tackling Gronkowski play. You seem to be the only person who is defending this guy...Are you DHall? So no, my argument isn't BS, its perfectly acceptable considering there are many people in my boat towards him sucking on that play than you making excuses that "Oh he thought he was going out of bounds." Look at ESPN's replay, Gronkowski was a good couple of yards away from the sideline with DHall just standing there. Get you eyes checked man, I had to look again after you said he "looked like he wasn't going to be pushed out of bounds and Dhall didn't want to get a PF for late hit out of bounds"[/quote]

I support Ruhskin's argument. I think in today's league, there are a lot of defensive players who stop and think twice about hitting a guy they think is going down, because they know if they hit them after they're down or out of bounds that's an automatic 15 yard penalty. Gronk had two guys on his back, is it reasonable to expect two pro football players to be able to take one guy down? Absolutely. And using "c'mon man" as evidence of what not to do is weak shit. I would never use some dumb talking head's opinion to back up any argument of mine, unless I was talking about what idiot talking heads think.

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It was on c'mon man... Tough to argue with that

lol

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It seems to me that the officials are over protecting the quarterback during this era. I remember way back in the days, when the QB was hit, there was nothing wrong with it. Now, if a QB is even knocked down when the defender barely touches him, then it's a personal foul and 15 yards are marched off. Even when a QB scrambles and slides to the turf, if a defender delivers a hit while the QB is in the process of sliding, then it's results in a personal foul- much like Fletcher's hit on Brady yesterday.

Brady wasn't even down when Fletcher hit him, yet the refs called a personal foul.

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It's kind of like breaking up a fight. You see someone in your entourage getting their butt whipped and somebody running to their rescue. You're now thinking, "oh, they got it". Next thing you know, both guys are knocked the **** out.

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[quote=Mattyk;867550]It was on c'mon man... Tough to argue with that

lol[/quote]

Reminds me of that guy a season or two ago, that kept saying "Look at the video!!! The proof is in the video!!!" in regards to Jason Campbell's QB play. LOL.

What was that guy's name? I can't remember it...I do remember him getting banned for just going nuts with his argument. LOL.

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So is C'Mon Man a MNF rip off of Ed Lover's C'Mon Son? LOL!

[IMG]http://www.vibe.com/sites/default/files/son.jpg[/IMG]

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Even Mike Shanahan is disappointed in Hall:

Mike Shanahan disappointed with DeAngelo Hall
By Mike Jones

Washington Redskins Coach Mike Shanahan expressed disappointment in cornerback and defensive captain DeAngelo Hall for costing the team with an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty against the Patriots and for quitting on a play that led to a long New England gain.

Hall, an eight-year veteran, racked up 20 yards in penalties on one third-quarter play, helping fuel a Patriots scoring drive that resulted in them taking a 27-20 lead.


Patriots wide receiver Wes Welker (83), right, drags Redskins cornerback DeAngelo Hall (23) into the end zone on the game-winning touchdown catch Sunday.(John McDonnell/The Washington Post)Hall initially was called for a five-yard defensive holding as he tried to cover Wes Welker, and unhappy with the penalty, Hall walked over to the flag, picked it up and chucked it back up the field at nobody in particular. Four referees immediately threw their flags at Hall. The unsportsmanlike conduct penalty earned the Patriots another 15 yards.

The ball was placed on the Washington 46-yard line, and five plays later, Tom Brady completed a 37-yard touchdown pass to Rob Gronkowski.

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[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/12/shanahan-redskins-embarrassed-by-failing-to-tackle-gronkowski/]Shanahan: Redskins “embarrassed” by failing to tackle Gronkowski | ProFootballTalk[/url]

Again..I'm not the only one here...

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[quote=CultBrennan59;867575][url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/12/shanahan-redskins-embarrassed-by-failing-to-tackle-gronkowski/]Shanahan: Redskins “embarrassed” by failing to tackle Gronkowski | ProFootballTalk[/url]

Again..I'm not the only one here...[/quote]

Good for you. Now go back to root against our team.

I would like for anyone who makes a big deal out of this two answer these two questions:

A.) Isn't it a bigger deal that two of our safeties (not one, but TWO) failed to bring down Gronkowski? They couldn't even push him out of bounds!!

and...

B.) Hall is not a good tackler, any chance he brings down Gronkowski on a head-on tackle?

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[quote=Ruhskins;867577]Good for you. Now go back to root against our team.[/quote]

You try and pin me as a cowboys fan with 'disses' and 'comebacks' of a 4th grader just calling me "cowboys fan, cowboys fan!" without having a man to man conversation. I've just proved to you I'm way more intelligent than you with how you handle a debate topic; you get beat and do the old 'whatever you're a cowboys fan go suck for luck.'

And again Mr. 12 year old, I'm not a cowboys fan nor will I ever be. And yeah God forbid I want us to get a Great QB like Andrew Luck. You realize you are the only person on this board who is continually defending DHall for not tackling Gronk yesterday. Sure the other two skins Gomes and Doughty, didn't tackle him well, but at least they made efforts! If Hall made an effort I wouldn't be here repeatedly trying to bang this into your head.

[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc-sports-bog/post/deangelo-hall-watches-two-teammates-not-tackle-rob-gronkowski/2011/12/12/gIQAgaEwpO_blog.html]DeAngelo Hall watches two teammates not tackle Rob Gronkowski - DC Sports Bog - The Washington Post[/url] theres a breakdown for those who may be legally blind.
I'm done.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;867578]You try and pin me as a cowboys fan with 'disses' and 'comebacks' of a 4th grader just calling me "cowboys fan, cowboys fan!" without having a man to man conversation. I've just proved to you I'm way more intelligent than you with how you handle a debate topic; you get beat and do the old 'whatever you're a cowboys fan go suck for luck.'

And again Mr. 12 year old, I'm not a cowboys fan nor will I ever be. And yeah God forbid I want us to get a Great QB like Andrew Luck. You realize you are the only person on this board who is continually defending DHall for not tackling Gronk yesterday.[B] Sure the other two skins Gomes and Doughty, didn't tackle him well, but at least they made efforts![/B] If Hall made an effort I wouldn't be here repeatedly trying to bang this into your head.

I'm done.[/quote]

Bad tackling is a problem with this team. So you are saying that it is okay to have sorry a$$ tacklers as long as they try? Really? The guy that you are accusing makes a lot of mistakes but he tries (well in the past he has), shouldn't he be okay in your book by your definition?

Finally, I am not defending Hall, just saying that it is stupid for someone to focus on him, when we have two guys (Gomes and Doughty) who took a huge dump by failing to tackle Gronk on that play.

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Since I'm a Hall hater why not pile it on:

[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc-sports-bog/post/deangelo-hall-watches-two-teammates-not-tackle-rob-gronkowski/2011/12/12/gIQAgaEwpO_blog.html]DeAngelo Hall watches two teammates not tackle Rob Gronkowski - DC Sports Bog - The Washington Post[/url]

There's a reason Atlanta and Oakland cut him. Personal fouls at the worst moments of the game and he can't cover and has diarrhea of the mouth.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;867581]Since I'm a Hall hater why not pile it on:

[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc-sports-bog/post/deangelo-hall-watches-two-teammates-not-tackle-rob-gronkowski/2011/12/12/gIQAgaEwpO_blog.html]DeAngelo Hall watches two teammates not tackle Rob Gronkowski - DC Sports Bog - The Washington Post[/url][/quote]

You're late. LOL.

By the way, I thought about you probably throwing something at the screen when your boy got flagged for that stupid unsportsmanlike conduct. I wouldn't have blamed you if you did.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;867581]Since I'm a Hall hater why not pile it on:

[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc-sports-bog/post/deangelo-hall-watches-two-teammates-not-tackle-rob-gronkowski/2011/12/12/gIQAgaEwpO_blog.html]DeAngelo Hall watches two teammates not tackle Rob Gronkowski - DC Sports Bog - The Washington Post[/url]

[B]There's a reason Atlanta and Oakland cut him. Personal fouls at the worst moments of the game and he can't cover and has diarrhea of the mouth.[/B][/quote]

I don't know how MS didn't bench him after that flag incident. I was shocked that no one even got on his face about it.

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[quote=Ruhskins;867582]You're late. LOL.

By the way, I thought about you probably throwing something at the screen when your boy got flagged for that stupid unsportsmanlike conduct. I wouldn't have blamed you if you did.[/quote]

I just laugh cause he's proving why I can't stand him so much and won't be around next year which brings me joy. Forgot to say he's always trying to start fights.

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D Hall has quit and thats sad

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[quote=Ruhskins;867579]Bad tackling is a problem with this team. [B]So you are saying that it is okay to have sorry a$$ tacklers as long as they try? Really? [/B] The guy that you are accusing makes a lot of mistakes but he tries (well in the past he has), shouldn't he be okay in your book by your definition?

Finally, I am not defending Hall, just saying that it is stupid for someone to focus on him, when we have two guys (Gomes and Doughty) who took a huge dump by failing to tackle Gronk on that play.[/quote]

Absolutely Not. A couple of posts back I was saying we should cut Reed (And pretty much this whole year I've been saying that). Him and Gomes tackled awfully. But being that Gomes is a rookie I'll flag him for this one and remember this for if/when he screws up the next time. Reed, like I said, needs to go. But like I said, atleast they were making an effort to get him and be apart of the play. DHall who gets paid more than both of them put together, looked like he wanted no part of that play--he looked like he wanted to observe. He looked about as bad, if not worse, than Fat Albert on that play.

I have to say I respect you for responding to my post maturely though.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;867597]Absolutely Not. A couple of posts back I was saying we should cut Reed (And pretty much this whole year I've been saying that). Him and Gomes tackled awfully. But being that Gomes is a rookie I'll flag him for this one and remember this for if/when he screws up the next time. Reed, like I said, needs to go. But like I said, atleast they were making an effort to get him and be apart of the play. DHall who gets paid more than both of them put together, looked like he wanted no part of that play--he looked like he wanted to observe. [B]He looked about as bad, if not worse, than Fat Albert on that play.[/B]

I have to say I respect you for responding to my post maturely though.[/quote]

Yeah I don't know about that. Good luck getting anyone to agree with you on that one.

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Ruh and CB59: I admire you both for your insights. Don't forget we're all redonk frustrated w/ the franchise, or regime, or DHall, or Rex or etc, etc, etc. Losing sucks and that's that :(

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[quote=CultBrennan59;867597]He looked about as bad, if not worse, than Fat Albert on that play.

[/quote]

Not at all. Horrible comparison. If that was Fatal Bert he'dve been sitting on the ground openly pondering whether to fake an injury so he could ride off the field on a cart.

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Looking at the video I see that Gronkowski at one point was slowed or almost stopped.
He was definitely looking like he was going out of bounds.
Hall could have torpedoed him and gotten crucified by the referees if he did that on the OB line.
Because of that I'll give Hall a pass.

The flag tossing penalty was huge though.
The guy is a dick and Shanahan has basically stated that he has lost faith in him.
Our whole secondary is a mess............

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;867581]Since I'm a Hall hater why not pile it on:

[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc-sports-bog/post/deangelo-hall-watches-two-teammates-not-tackle-rob-gronkowski/2011/12/12/gIQAgaEwpO_blog.html]DeAngelo Hall watches two teammates not tackle Rob Gronkowski - DC Sports Bog - The Washington Post[/url]

There's a reason Atlanta and Oakland cut him. Personal fouls at the worst moments of the game and he can't cover and has diarrhea of the mouth.[/quote]

Exactly, when teams find good CBs they hold on to them. The fact that 2 teams cut DH speaks volumes about him. He's a bum and not the kind of guy teams can win with.

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[quote=irish;867630]Exactly, when teams find good CBs they hold on to them. The fact that 2 teams cut DH speaks volumes about him. He's a bum and not the kind of guy teams can win with.[/quote]

Yet Shanahan continues to enabling his attitude here with the team. I would have expected a Haynesworth-like treatment if Hall was in MS' doghouse. Which leads me to believe that either a.) Hall's attitude is really not that big of a deal or b.) Shanahan doesn't care.