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[quote=NC_Skins;872864]Are we seriously down to criticizing Mike for not holding some scrubs hand to his car on the way out? Is this what Skins fans have stooped to? I'm sure you guys can come up with something better than this, and there are tons of players who want to play for coaches like Shanny (parcells and bellicheck).[/quote]

Welcome to the offseason!

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[quote=Mattyk;872865]Welcome to the [B]offseason[/B]![/quote]
OH.........how I dread thee...

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[quote=NC_Skins;872864]Are we seriously down to criticizing Mike for not holding some scrubs hand to his car on the way out? Is this what Skins fans have stooped to? I'm sure you guys can come up with something better than this, and there are tons of players who want to play for coaches like Shanny (parcells and bellicheck).[/quote]

Thats what happens when the team continues to lose.

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[quote=SkinItup;872858]Locklear has a point, a very small point. After spending 5 months together 6 days a week you would think MS might like to say good bye to his team.

With that said Locklear wasn't coming back so MS probably doesn;t care much what he thinks.

Though it does seems like MS lack of tact (as its been referred to here) could cause trouble trying to get FA. How many people want to work with that type of person? Most are willing to for more money but that still hurts the team overall.[/quote]Absolutely correct. If some dude tweets his displeasure with the team and a reporter reports it, well, then it goes away the next day. Who cares? It's such a small issue. Why even respond? It doesn't make sense.

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[quote=Ruhskins;872840]I don't know about Parcells' antics much, but Bellichick's antics have always happened when he has had a winning team as far as I know. Honestly, I think this is a bit of a non-story, but at the same time I don't see the need for MS to act the way he acted. [B]Once he starts winning, MS can do whatever the hell he wants to do[/B], in the meantime, every little thing (such as this story) will be criticized by fans and the media.[/quote]Bottom line. People will want to come play for the Redskins and be a part of the tradition of the Redskins [U]if the team is winning[/U], regardless of how the coach treats people who aren't useful to him anymore.

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[quote=GTripp0012;872876]Bottom line. People will want to come play for the Redskins and be a part of the tradition of the Redskins [U]if the team is winning[/U], regardless of how the coach treats people who aren't useful to him anymore.[/quote]

Or if the team ha$ $omething very valuable that all player$ $eek when it come$ to Free Agency. But the$e are the guy$ which we need to avoid.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;872907]Or if the team ha$ $omething very valuable that all player$ $eek when it come$ to Free Agency. But the$e are the guy$ which we need to avoid.[/quote]

What?

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Locklear pretty much exemplifies why Shanahan does what he does. Player emotions are running high at the end of the season, so he gives everyone a chance to cool down and then he starts talking to players individually a few weeks from now

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[quote=GTripp0012;872875]Absolutely correct. If some dude tweets his displeasure with the team and a reporter reports it, well, then it goes away the next day. Who cares? It's such a small issue. Why even respond? It doesn't make sense.[/quote]

He was asked about it at the press conference and he gave a wise crack answer. Are we really parsing his words regarding a journeyman who will be lucky to be in the league next year? Really?!?

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[quote=Paintrain;872943]He was asked about it at the press conference and he gave a wise crack answer. Are we really parsing his words regarding a journeyman who will be lucky to be in the league next year? Really?!?[/quote]

He even laughed about it.

This is such a non issue it's not even funny.

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[quote=Ruhskins;872909]What?[/quote]

:frusty: Money! Money! That's why there were all dollar signs instead of S's...:doh:

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[quote=Mattyk;872946]He even laughed about it.

This is such a non issue it's not even funny.[/quote]

Yeah, but the bad thing is that 5-11 win loss record has become a non-factor as well. IMO that's not even funny.

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[quote=Gary84Clark;873103]Yeah, but the bad thing is that 5-11 win loss record has become a non-factor as well. IMO that's not even funny.[/quote]

Who says it's become a non-factor?

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[quote=SmootSmack;873105]Who says it's become a non-factor?[/quote]

Shannahan does not appear concerned about being held accountable for this terrible record. Rex might even be back under center next year as starter. Everything is rose colored glasses.

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[quote=Gary84Clark;873107]Shannahan does not appear concerned about being held accountable for this terrible record. Rex might even be back under center next year as starter. Everything is rose colored glasses.[/quote]

What gives you the impression he's not concerned?

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[quote=Gary84Clark;873107]Shannahan does not appear concerned about being held accountable for this terrible record. Rex might even be back under center next year as starter. Everything is rose colored glasses.[/quote]

Were you hoping he'd cry like Rex Ryan?

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[quote=SmootSmack;873111]Were you hoping he'd cry like Rex Ryan?[/quote]

lol :lol:

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[quote=Gary84Clark;873107]Shannahan does not appear concerned about being held accountable for this terrible record. Rex might even be back under center next year as starter. [B]Everything is rose colored glasses[/B].[/quote]
.......Come on man..............

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;872388]Who goes on O:

Stallworth, Sellers, Cook, Armstrong, Locklear, Brown, Anderson.[/quote]

Wow!

Only Stallworth here is "sort of a starter".

The guys to get rid of from an offense that was miserable all season long are all on the bench? Keep the starters?

Sounds to me like 2012 would be an awful lot like 2011...

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[quote=Gary84Clark;873107]Shannahan does not appear concerned about being held accountable for this terrible record. Rex might even be back under center next year as starter. [B]Everything is rose colored glasses.[/B][/quote]

Yeah, rose colored glasses, getting stabbed - it's all the same.

[quote]"With all the time that you put in, [B]every time you have a loss, especially with the effort that you put in, it's like somebody sticks a knife in you. It's tough to go through a season like that," said Shanahan.[/B]

"Thank God I haven't gone through any like this before. I might not have been in this profession very long. But it's something that really drives you, motivates you.

"It's something that I look forward to doing - putting a great football team together and doing it the right way. And sometimes it takes a little bit longer than sometimes expected."[/quote]

[url=http://www1.skysports.com/american-football/news/12118/7409118/Shanahan-sees-brighter-future]Shanahan sees brighter future | Sky Sports[/url]

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[quote=JoeRedskin;873406]Yeah, rose colored glasses, getting stabbed - it's all the same.



[url=http://www1.skysports.com/american-football/news/12118/7409118/Shanahan-sees-brighter-future]Shanahan sees brighter future | Sky Sports[/url][/quote]

Git 'er done Mike!!!!

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You'd have to think that Donte Stallworth will not be back next season. The Redskins wil draft a young receiver or sign a proven veteran in free agency. Sean Locklear definitely won't be back. I'd bet some money that if John Beck isn't traded, he will definitely be released. Brandon Banks, although explosive, just wasn't impressive during either kickoff returns or punt returns this year. Aldrick Robinson has a chance to wrestle the kick return and punt return duties away from Banks next preseason.

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[quote=REDSKINS4ever;873883]You'd have to think that Donte Stallworth will not be back next season. The Redskins wil draft a young receiver or sign a proven veteran in free agency. Sean Locklear definitely won't be back. I'd bet some money that [B]if John Beck isn't traded[/B], he will definitely be released. Brandon Banks, although explosive, just wasn't impressive during either kickoff returns or punt returns this year. Aldrick Robinson has a chance to wrestle the kick return and punt return duties away from Banks next preseason.[/quote]


Based on what fans saw - - and what coaches saw and will continue to see on the coaching tapes - - of John Beck's performance in real NFL games on Sunday afternoons, I cannot imagine that any team would offer anything to acquire him. Not even a bag of used kicking tees...

John Beck seems like a personable and likeable guy. The problem is that he is no longer a "kid" and his football performance at an age where QBs are typically at their peak is unacceptable.

Prediction: The Redskins will get no offers for Beck in trade. At that point, the Redskins' coaches will have to decide just how important his work ethic and his practice performance are to the Redskins' team. That is his "value".

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I wouldn't be surprised if Beck comes back as a backup.

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[quote=Mattyk;873932]I wouldn't be surprised if Beck comes back as a backup.[/quote]Lets say we have exactly two players at QB next year better than Beck. Would he even be worth rostering as a third QB next year vs. going with two guys? He'd be inactive on gamedays and if you lost your starter for any length of time, you'd have to go out and find a backup QB you could trust that isn't John Beck.

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[quote=Mattyk;873932]I wouldn't be surprised if Beck comes back as a backup.[/quote]

Matty:

If John Beck is the #2 backup on the 2012 Redskins team, someone needs to go to church every other day and light a lot of candles and say a whole lot of prayers that the #1 QB - - whoever that is - - never gets an injury more severe than a hangnail on his non-throwing hand.

John Beck can't play. It is basically that simple.

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^ that

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[quote=Mattyk;873932]I wouldn't be surprised if Beck comes back as a backup.[/quote]

Let's hope not. I don't think I'd trust him to warm the bench properly. I mean I don't even understand the coaches' reasoning for putting him in the game. He was woeful. It looked like he didn't even know that the objective is to get the ball in the end zone.

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watching him in person in the SF game made me wannarip my own cornea out

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Where is that fanarchist person who was selling Beck as our savior?

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[quote=Lotus;874121]Where is that fanarchist person who was selling Beck as our savior?[/quote]

The "Redheaded stranger" shall ride again he's just waiting on the perfect time to shine! ! He was trying to get us Luck give him a break!

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[quote=CrustyRedskin;874124]The "Redheaded stranger" shall ride again he's just waiting on the perfect time to shine! ! He was trying to get us Luck give him a break![/quote]

And he failed at that.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;872388]Who goes on O:

Stallworth, Sellers, Cook, Armstrong, Locklear, Brown, Anderson.[/quote]

Does Stallworth ever stay on a team? lol