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im all about trading down for more piks. basiclaly when you get into the third and fourht, its mostly value picks and id rather have a ton of picks when you consider the shotgun effect and pray that more than one works out.

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Washington Redskins

LSU defensive tackle Michael Brockers (3/?).

Arkansas State safety Kelcie McCray (?/?).

*Syracuse safety Phillip Thomas (?/?).

So far those are the reported pre draft visits we have had.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;905801]Washington Redskins

LSU defensive tackle Michael Brockers (3/?).

Arkansas State safety Kelcie McCray (?/?).

*Syracuse safety Phillip Thomas (?/?).

So far those are the reported pre draft visits we have had.[/quote]

Well at least we are showing we have a clue bringing in 2 sleeper safeties. From what ive read McCray is shooting up draft boards.

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Mike Shanahan has said that the last minute cap space reduction penalty imposed by the NFL had a negative impact on the Skins' FA plans. He gave no specifics, but I'll make the mental leap and assume that we weren't able to fill as many needs as we wanted to fill in FA. In my mind, that has to affect the way we draft this year.

I had the idea that we would load up in FA and fill the remaining needs with far fewer drafted players than we added last year. The idea would be to try to move up in the draft and grab higher-rated players at fewer positions.

But now I think that the draft landscape has dramatically changed for the Skins. We're going to be adding a top prospect at QB who will play as a rookie, we traded away our 2nd round pick, and we got hosed in FA by the NFL. All of this means that the Redskins' timetable for world domination has been pushed back and that Mike Shanahan has bought at least one more year beyond 2012 as HC, assuming that he doesn't flop miserably this season.

Now, I'm thinking that our 2012 draft may look a lot like our last draft with the Skins trading down for more picks and trying to find some diamonds in the rough.

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[quote=los panda;903468]i think a rb w our 3rd is a poor use of the pick. if a rb is chosen, i'd rather it be w the last pick we have. but i don't want any to be drafted.

i wouldn't mind if we only drafted ol and db, wouldn't mind at all[/quote]

The Redskins definitely need a young ILB, a RT, and a young safety. What I like about this coming draft is that it is rich in right tackles. It would be essential that the Redskins draft a RT in the 3rd round.

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What the hell happened to this site? It looks horrible. Like an 8bit version of extremeskins.

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Does anyone **cough Smoot cough** know if we plan on trading some players for late round picks during the draft this year?

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[quote=mbedner3420;906014]Does anyone **cough Smoot cough** know if we plan on trading some players for late round picks during the draft this year?[/quote]

No info at the moment.

I'm in off-season mode anyway, so consider me "on vacation" until I've decided my off-season has ended

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[quote=SmootSmack;906018]No info at the moment.

I'm in off-season mode anyway, so consider me "on vacation" until I've decided my off-season has ended[/quote]

Cools.

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[quote=SmootSmack;906018]No info at the moment.

I'm in off-season mode anyway, so consider me "on vacation" until I've decided my off-season has ended[/quote]

We're going to have you do the conditioning test when you come back to make sure you're ready

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Very good article on Phillip Thomas the FS from Syracuse...(I'm gonna bet Phillip Thomas will be a Washington Redskin when the draft ends)

[url=http://bmitchlive.wordpress.com/2012/03/27/will-syracuse-saftey-phillip-thomas-join-the-redskins/]Will Syracuse Saftey Phillip Thomas join the Redskins? « BMITCHLIVE[/url]

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I'll be surprised if the Redskins even look at the Offensive side of the ball because they've been weaken so much on the Defensive side because of Free Agency. They have no back up DEs or CBs because they're all free agents.

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[quote=vallin21;906437]Very good article on Phillip Thomas the FS from Syracuse...(I'm gonna bet Phillip Thomas will be a Washington Redskin when the draft ends)

[url=http://bmitchlive.wordpress.com/2012/03/27/will-syracuse-saftey-phillip-thomas-join-the-redskins/]Will Syracuse Saftey Phillip Thomas join the Redskins? « BMITCHLIVE[/url][/quote]

That was a nice article. Hopefully he lands with the Redskins on draft day.

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Guys. We need ILB first and foremost.we have only p.riley on roster that signed for next yr.50/50 we get fletcher next yr. Than we need ort and fs.

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[url=http://profootball.scout.com/a.z?s=127&p=9&c=2&cid=1174611&nid=5465708&fhn=1]Scout.com: Keith Tandy Profile[/url]

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[quote=bigant;906927]Guys. We need ILB first and foremost.we have only p.riley on roster that signed for next yr.50/50 we get fletcher next yr. Than we need ort and fs.[/quote]

Im with you...In mind Fletch has to come back period. But if he goes somewhere else, ILB becomes primary need, top of list b/c we dont have a starter there.

SS thanks for the post, i've heard Tandy's name but havent seen him play. Looks like a solid sleeper even though he played for a garbage program in college.

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Chances are definitely better than 50/50 that Fletcher returns.

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[QUOTE=REDSKINS4ever;906905]That was a nice article. Hopefully he lands with the Redskins on draft day.[/QUOTE]



What did he improve that 40 time to? 4.74 is pretty slow.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;907023]What did he improve that 40 time to? [B]4.74 is pretty slow.[/B][/quote]

Only by a tenth at the pro day (4.67), and that's his issue... His game speed is just as slow as his clock/timed speed. I still think he'll be a steal or us, or whatever team selects him.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;907023]What did he improve that 40 time to? 4.74 is pretty slow.[/quote]

I did notice that. I was going to comment on his 40 time but I decided not to. Traditionally safeties aren't really that fast. As long a safety plays within the position and doesn't allow the ball to go deep since he's the final line of defense, it'll be okay. This kid from Syracuse is well liked by a few teams including the Redskins.

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[quote=bigant;906927]Guys. We need ILB first and foremost.we have only p.riley on roster that signed for next yr.50/50 we get fletcher next yr. Than we need ort and fs.[/quote]

Perhaps the Redskins will draft Vontaze Bufict in the 6th or 7th round if he's there. I doubt very seriously that teams will draft him high. After a lousy combine and a lackluster pro day, Burfict's stock certainly lowered. But at Arizona State he was a tremendous talent. He just needs some coaching. If the Redskins do draft him and coach him properly, he'll be a tackling machine like London Fletcher.

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[quote=REDSKINS4ever;907121]Perhaps the Redskins will draft Vontaze Bufict in the 6th or 7th round if he's there. I doubt very seriously that teams will draft him high. After a lousy combine and a lackluster pro day, Burfict's stock certainly lowered. But at Arizona State he was a tremendous talent. He just needs some coaching. If the Redskins do draft him and coach him properly, he'll be a tackling machine like London Fletcher.[/quote]


But, I don't even think he's willing to be coached. I think he has an ego.

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I'm excited to learn about all of these prospects. Because the draft is so weak in regards to safeties, will that push guys to at that position be drafted higher than they should?

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Please dear God just once I would like the team to indulge on selecting offensive lineman. No more Linebackers, DB's, and WR's in the third and fourth rounds unless they're amazing value picks like Hankerson.

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[quote=RGIII;907376]I'm excited to learn about all of these prospects. Because the draft is so weak in regards to safeties, will that push guys to at that posistion be drafted higher than they should?[/quote]

I just don't think that the draft is as weak at S as it is said to be. Two players that I like very much, Markelle Martin (OK ST) and Brandon Taylor (LSU) could be there when we pick in the 3rd Round. I haven't seen Trumaine Johnson (MT) or Phillip Thomas (SYR) play but some people think they are very good.

Another reason I don't perceive the draft to be as weak at S as some say is that there are also some college CB's who I like a lot who might be a step slow to play CB in the NFL but who could be converted to FS. I think that Casey Hayward (VANDY), Jamell Fleming (OU), and DeQuan Menzie (AL) could be considered as FS prospects.

Just my 2 cents, but I think that there will be somebody there for us a S in the draft.

Meanwhile, I wouldn't mind it if the Skins could sign FA safety Madieu Williams.

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Round 1 RGIII
Round 3 Philip Blake or Michael Brewster
Round 4 Phillip Thomas
Round 4 Casey Hayward
Round 5 Chris Rainey
Round 6 Ryan Broyles
Round 7 Kellen Moore

I would be very happy if this happened.

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[quote=diehardskin2982;907388]Round 1 RGIII
Round 3 Philip Blake or Michael Brewster
Round 4 Phillip Thomas
Round 4 Casey Hayward
Round 5 Chris Rainey
Round 6 Ryan Broyles
Round 7 Kellen Moore

I would be very happy if this happened.[/quote]

So we aren't drafting a tackle?


And I wish Broyles would last that long, but I doubt it, as a matter of fact I could easily see NE getting him with one of their many picks between the 2nd-4th round.

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Will we draft a tackle better than year 2 of Polumbus and Smith in mid to late rounds? Broyles will really depend on his knee. If we can get him we can maybe put him on the Pulp list then slowly work him into the mix.

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[quote=REDSKINS4ever;907121]Perhaps the Redskins will draft Vontaze Bufict in the 6th or 7th round if he's there. I doubt very seriously that teams will draft him high. After a lousy combine and a lackluster pro day, Burfict's stock certainly lowered. But at Arizona State he was a tremendous talent. He just needs some coaching. If the Redskins do draft him and coach him properly, he'll be a tackling machine like London Fletcher.[/quote]

You have to remember Brandon Spikes ran a 5.0 40 (similar to Burfict) and had some pretty bad character concerns as well.
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[quote]Spikes' day could not have gone much worse. Scouts had been worried that Spikes was not going to turn in a great time, but he failed to break 5.0 seconds in either of two runs (NFL Network's Mike Mayock had him at 5.1). A five-flat 40-yard-dash is OK for an offensive lineman, slow for a defensive lineman and absolutely brutal for an inside linebacker. Spikes was considered one of the best inside linebackers in the draft, but even with impressive production it will be hard for scouts to overlook his lack of speed. As a two-down linebacker, it's hard to see how Spikes will go higher than the third round.[/quote]

And in spite of all of that he was a second round pick with the Patriots and has gone on to justify his draft status. So needless to say if Burfict falls to the 6th or 7th round I will be VERY surprised. Either way right now the Ravens are the favorites to take him in the 2nd or 3rd round.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;907378]I just don't think that the draft is as weak at S as it is said to be. Two players that I like very much, Markelle Martin (OK ST) and Brandon Taylor (LSU) could be there when we pick in the 3rd Round. I haven't seen Trumaine Johnson (MT) or Phillip Thomas (SYR) play but some people think they are very good.

Another reason I don't perceive the draft to be as weak at S as some say is that there are also some college CB's who I like a lot who might be a step slow to play CB in the NFL but who could be converted to FS. I think that Casey Hayward (VANDY), Jamell Fleming (OU), and DeQuan Menzie (AL) could be considered as FS prospects.

Just my 2 cents, but I think that there will be somebody there for us a S in the draft.

Meanwhile, I wouldn't mind it if the Skins could sign FA safety Madieu Williams.[/quote]

Great post....I especially agree about the big corners or even corners that are great tacklers but lack in the upper end speed.
Sure, there is no blue chip Sean Taylor coming out this year, so I think that is why some are saying it is weak. But it is not weak.