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the more bodies the better

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[quote=los panda;908634]the more bodies the better[/quote]

This has been the Redskins MO under Shanahan/Allen. We did it with RB's, WR's, and now safeties. I am ok with it. The NFL is as much a numbers game as anything. Bring guys in, and see which ones rise to the top. You may not end up with all-stars at every position, but everyone on the team will be a hard worker because they have to beat out comparably talented guys.

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Jackson also a local boy. Played ball at Potomac High. So we have Morgan, Hightower, and Jackson all guys that played or grew up in the DC area.

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[quote=12thMan;908639]Jackson also a local boy. Played ball at Potomac High. So we have Morgan, Hightower, and Jackson all guys that played or grew up in the DC area.[/quote]

Also Madieu Williams, Evan Royster, Josh Wilson, Kevin Barnes

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[IMG]https://yfrog.com/nuthakxj:iphone[/IMG]

Jackson signing his contract.

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played pop warner for the howard county trojans

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;908637]This has been the Redskins MO under Shanahan/Allen. We did it with RB's, WR's, and now safeties. I am ok with it. The NFL is as much a numbers game as anything. Bring guys in, and see which ones rise to the top. You may not end up with all-stars at every position, but everyone on the team will be a hard worker because they have to beat out comparably talented guys.[/quote]

Moneyball!!!

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I like the Tanard Jackson signing.....


BUT


He gets suspended/hurt a LOT. If he stays clean and healthy, he will be a GREAT signing.



I'm really anxious to see who we get for that 3rd rounder now. Broyles? LaMichael? OT? CB? TE?

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[quote=vallin21;908629]Safe to say we can cross out FS off our list of draft needs (at least this year)... You guys agree?[/quote]

I disagree. We have bodies at the position, but do we actually have a 16 game starter? Nope. Hopefully someone will emerge out of the group but this is a position that will need to be addressed in the future.

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[quote=skinsfan69;908647]I disagree. We have bodies at the position, but do we actually have a 16 game starter? Nope. Hopefully someone will emerge out of the group but this is a position that will need to be addressed in the future.[/quote]

As someone on Twitter said to Rich Tandler...

Paul Hazard ‏ @P_Hazard
@Rich_Tandler: sad thing is inferior talent like Jackson/Meriweather this year could be more productive than Otogwe/Landry last year. Easy.

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[quote=SmootSmack;908641]Also Madieu Williams, Evan Royster, Josh Wilson, Kevin Barnes[/quote]

didn't realize Williams was too, Where'd he go to school?

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[quote=skinsfan69;908647]I disagree. We have bodies at the position, but do we actually have a 16 game starter? Nope. Hopefully someone will emerge out of the group but this is a position that will need to be addressed in the future.[/quote]

I understand, but I would look to draft a FS next year, not this year; The FS/SS draft class this year is mediocre, which is why we've signed Meriweather, Jackson, and Williams all to 1 year deals, thinking we can draft a FS next year. With these signings, I just don't see us drafting a FS in [B]this year's[/B] draft.

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[quote=12thMan;908650]didn't realize Williams was too, Where'd he go to school?[/quote]

M-A-R-Y-L-A-N-D :headbange

Speaking of local ties, interesting fact about Morgan (already mentioned here I believe):

Zac Boyer ‏ @ZacBoyer
Got off phone with [B]Josh Morgan[/B]. Happy w/DC-area #Redskins signings. [B]Played AAU hoops w/Tanard Jackson, childhood friend w/Madieu Williams.[/B]

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[quote=12thMan;908650]didn't realize Williams was too, Where'd he go to school?[/quote]

Grew up in Lanham, went to Maryland

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Yeah, I was referring to HS. Lanham..nice. Damn, we're loading up on Terps, I see.

I like the Jackson signing


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Jackson had rotator cuff surgery in January, expected to be OK by June.

However, his health isn't his main concern when it comes to staying on the field.

If he can behave himself, he's a great signing, especially with Raheem Morris coaching him.

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[quote=backrow;908107]This whole offseason has seen no one added [B]yet[/B] to the roster that other teams will have to specifically game plan for.

I need a (yawn inserted here) nap![/quote]

Outside of some previously big money receivers there weren't a lot of top tier guys in FA that were likely to come here. We are not only creating competition for starters but for backups too. Our depth has been shit for awhile.. not everyone is signed to start. No more handing out roles.. time to earn them.

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This is the best Offseason the Redskins have had in the Dan Snyder Era. Getting so many low priced veteran fillers. Raheem Morris is a great DB coach. Qb of the future. Not signing the injury prone landry to a huge deal. Love it.

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Jackson hasn't played well since his 2010 suspension, but I like the risk b/c there is actually reason to believe he can be the player we saw in 2009 (healthy, has played football recently). I've never thought Madieu Williams was a [I]bad[/I] player necessarily, but he clearly has not been a starting caliber football player for two, maybe three seasons now.

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[quote=vallin21;908652]I understand, but I would look to draft a FS next year, not this year; The FS/SS draft class this year is mediocre, which is why we've signed Meriweather, Jackson, and Williams all to 1 year deals, thinking we can draft a FS next year. With these signings, I just don't see us drafting a FS in [B]this year's[/B] draft.[/quote]

maybe not with our 3rd round pick, but i can see us for sure pickup up a safety at some point.

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Wow, we got more safeties than posts in the shaving thread.

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Competition is a GREAT! thing.

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[quote=12thMan;908650]didn't realize Williams was too, Where'd he go to school?[/quote]

He also went to my Middle School..Kenmoor Middle in Palmer Park :silly:

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I love the Jackson signing

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me too, other than garcon and maybe morgan, i think this could be our best signing. hes a playmaker and will force turnovers. and still young

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[quote=SmootSmack;908654]Grew up in Lanham, went to Maryland[/quote]

Nice. I grew up Lanham, and lived close to Duval. Tough area, near Bowie. Growing up, our next door neighbors robbed us, drug deals on the block, friend saw someone shot in the parking lot, etc. But, honestly had fun growing up there. Good to see Lanham come out in TJ with the substance abuse charges last year, but I'm hoping he's cleaned up since then.

I always wonder why all these players sign with us when they know there's stiff competition for the job. Seems like if you're going to be the 4-6th safety, you would sign with another team to increase your chances. Same thing happened last two years with RB/WRs. Well, good for our front office, bad for the players. Good job Shanny for making this happen.

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Jackson is an upgrade at safety over what was on the roster - - after Landry and Otogwe were set adrift. In fact, he is probably an upgrade over Landry and Otogwe.

Of course, injuries are always a factor no matter who a team signs or drafts. But Tanard Jackson's talent makes him worth the gamble that he can stay healthy - - and sober.

Presumably, the Skins' braintrust did their due diligence. If they did not, someone's head should roll...

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This is the best possible off-season anyone could have realistically hoped for. We are getting RGIII. I don't care the costs, great trade! We added Garcon who has the talent/speed to be a #1 receiver. Morgan is young and explosive too and still has high upside. Added James Lee for tackle depth. Got Griffin, Merriweather, Williams, Jackson and Torrance for secondary depth. None are great players, but you will never have great players at every position, but we will have nice depth. I would like to see Gomes be a starter but Merriweather and Jackson as starters with Gomes and Williams as depth is SOLID. Don't see Doughty staying on the team, kinda sad, I love lunch pale Skins. Maybe he can become an all special teams type guy. The draft is going to be interesting. I don't have any preference for how we draft, except for I would like one of the 4th round choices to be used on the O-Line. This season is gonna costs me a lot of money because I will not be missing a game and don't have DirecTV. Bars are gonna make a killing off me.

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Agreed, great offseason and very smart moves so far. Btw, sign of smart moves / front office - [URL="http://www.csnwashington.com/football-washington-redskins/redskins-talk/Redskins-signings-have-minimal-cap-impac?blockID=688434&feedID=6355"]Torrence / Golston / Williams cost only $400k[/URL].


But I'd still argue that the "[U]best off-season[/U]" could have been this - and another $18 million dollars.

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Raheem Morris had a lot to do with Tanard Jackson signing with the Redskins. The safety position is one that has been aggressively improved upon this offseason. I like the acquisitions of Madieu Williams, Cedric Griffin, and Jackson.

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I see us drafting a CB and Safety regardless.
I love the depth...no doubt...but are any of these guys long term starters?...hard to say
Oline and ILB look like priorities to me in the draft....
I wouldn't be suprised if we used our 3 or 4th on a RB to take pressure off of RGIII

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[quote=REDSKINS4ever;908797]Raheem Morris had a lot to do with Tanard Jackson signing with the Redskins. The safety position is one that has been aggressively improved upon this offseason. I like the acquisitions of Madieu Williams, Cedric Griffin, and Jackson.[/quote]

Aggressively improved is a bit of an overstatement, I think. But, I'm happy with what they've been able to accomplish this offseason.

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I'm okay with having Tanard Jackson and Madieu Williams as safeties on the roster. But Brandon Meriweather concerns me a little. It wouldn't surprise me if Jackson and Williams are both the starting safeties and Meriweather is coming off the bench in certain situations. In fact, I'd prefer it that way.

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[quote=REDSKINS4ever;908853]I'm okay with having Tanard Jackson and Madieu Williams as safeties on the roster. But Brandon Meriweather concerns me a little. It wouldn't surprise me if Jackson and Williams are both the starting safeties and Meriweather is coming off the bench in certain situations. In fact, I'd prefer it that way.[/quote]

I'd say that every DB will be a situational player. Jackson, Williams, and Meriweather have all been liabilities in recent years. There is a reason why we got them so cheep. That being said I'm happy they are all on our team. I wouldn't trust any of them as individuals to play regularly, but they are all talented enough to be able to positively contribute in some way to our team. We just need to figure out who can do what and situationally make them a strong unit as a whole.

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Something tells me Gomes will step his game up this year. Last year he looked a little lost out there at times as a rookie. I have a feeling that he will be one of the most valuable players on defense. With Meriweather, Williams, and Jackson playing safety, Gomes will have stiff competition in training camp/preseason.

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Again makes no sense. Go out of your way to provide competition at Receiver, Safety, Backup QB, etc. But when it comes to the line suddenly you're a government employee.

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[quote=skinsnut;908851]I see us drafting a CB and Safety regardless.
[B]I love the depth...no doubt...but are any of these guys long term starters?...hard to say[/B]
Oline and ILB look like priorities to me in the draft....
I wouldn't be suprised if we used our 3 or 4th on a RB to take pressure off of RGIII[/quote]

Yah we can get two out of the new editions plus the current crop already on the team. Good depth, and it also provides us the opportunity to not draft a S.

I could see a CB or even two, but they may still have a plan to add another vet through trade or sign.

I think this should be an interesting draft for the Skins, and I am interested to see where we go with our picks. Do they take a BPA approach through out the draft or do they go need? My hope is that need finds a BPA or four at the positions we need.

*BTW BPA refers to the best player available at the draft position not the ten best guys.... ;)

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[quote=sportscurmudgeon;908784]Jackson is an upgrade at safety over what was on the roster - - after Landry and Otogwe were set adrift. In fact, he is probably an upgrade over Landry and Otogwe.

Of course, injuries are always a factor no matter who a team signs or drafts. But Tanard Jackson's talent makes him worth the gamble that he can stay healthy - - and sober.

Presumably, the Skins' braintrust did their due diligence. If they did not, someone's head should roll...[/quote]

I got a feeling that Jackson (provided he doesn't get high) and Merriweather will be a better tandem than we had last year. I really like what they did here. Jackson is a good player, and I agree he is better than the two we had.

Sadly I do see Doughty gone, but we have depth and talent there now.

They can pass on drafty a S this year and grab a couple UDFA S and stash them on the practice squad while they develop.

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Signed fletcher!!!