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SmootSmack 08-02-2012 11:38 AM

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It's fan appreciation day on Saturday, isn't it? It's gonna be a zoo there

Meanwhile, some thoughts from a former NFL scout

[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d82afe6bc/article/rg3-forces-profound-revision-in-washington-redskins-offense]RG3 forces profound revision in Washington Redskins offense - NFL.com[/url]

12thMan 08-02-2012 11:41 AM

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Yes, fan appreciation day. I'm sure it will be hot as hell too.

KI Skins Fan 08-02-2012 11:42 AM

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[quote=skinsfan69;928135]Right now we're going to have to use him on this type of stuff. Do you expect him to sit back in the pocket and consistently move the chains as a rookie? I don't. Not right now. As his career moves along, and if/when he gets the pocket game down, then I'm sure they'll scale it back on the option stuff.[/quote]

He won't always be in the pocket. As I wrote, I have no problem with rolling him out with his having the option to run or running the occaisional QB draw. So, yes, use his speed and running talent judiciously.

But running option plays is an invitation to injury for RGIII. You should know why. It's because, to defense the option offense, one defensive player is assigned to tackle the QB. The QB is not an uncovered player when running the option. He's going to get hit when he runs the option - and hit hard.

The idea that the Redskins D quickly caught on to stopping the option in practice but other team's defenses won't because they don't see it as often is a bunch of baloney. Defenses are going to be looking for RGIII to run option plays and, when they see it, they are going to knock the crap out of the relatively small - not huge like Cam Newton or Tim Tebow - RGIII.

How many times does RGIII have to get hit to be injured? The correct answer is once. That being the case, I don't see the wisdom in exposing him to unecessary hits.

mlmpetert 08-02-2012 11:47 AM

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[quote=SmootSmack;928142]It's fan appreciation day on Saturday, isn't it? It's gonna be a zoo there

Meanwhile, some thoughts from a former NFL scout

[URL="http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d82afe6bc/article/rg3-forces-profound-revision-in-washington-redskins-offense"]RG3 forces profound revision in Washington Redskins offense - NFL.com[/URL][/quote]


Fun read. Easy to get excited

[quote][B]3. Coach Mike Shanahan is going to incorporate plays that suit his new athletic quarterback.[/B]
During both practices, there was a strong emphasis on designed quarterback runs. Normally at an NFL practice, a designed quarterback run consists of either a QB draw or a QB sneak. That wasn't the case here. There were zone-read plays (where the QB reads the defensive end and elects to hand off the ball or keep it depending on the action of the defender), speed-option plays and quarterback sweeps throughout the day. They even spent some time lining up in the pistol formation. Several of these plays and formations were almost identical to the Baylor offense. Shanahan's offense has always incorporated a moving pocket in the passing game, but this is a new brand of football exclusively tailored to Griffin's strengths.[/quote]

SmootSmack 08-02-2012 02:22 PM

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Tristan Davis has been activated

12thMan 08-02-2012 02:32 PM

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Just caught D.Hall on NFL network. Boy did he sound excited about the defense and brimming with confidence. I really sense a level a maturity with him this year. He was gushing with praise about RG3..and oddly, Jim Haslett. He made it a point to say two years ago the defense was ranked 31, last year they were 13, an he expects it get better.

He also gave big props to Rak and Kerrigan. He was going on and on about how awesome Kerrigan is.

Can't fcukign wait for this thing to start!!

mbedner3420 08-02-2012 02:35 PM

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[quote=12thMan;928141]I might be attendance Saturday if any of you guys are headed that way.[/quote]

Yeah, I'll probably be there too.

SmootSmack 08-02-2012 03:13 PM

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Balmer still MIA. Time to cut our losses I think

Chico23231 08-02-2012 03:17 PM

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[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/football-insider/post/redskins-training-camp-chris-baker-is-aiming-for-a-spot-in-defensive-line-rotation/2012/08/02/10f9b590-dccc-11e1-8e43-4a3c4375504a_blog.html]Redskins training camp: Chris Baker is aiming for a spot in defensive line rotation - The Insider - The Washington Post[/url]

Baker is beasting out, like what im hearing

mbedner3420 08-02-2012 03:19 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;928192]Balmer still MIA. Time to cut our losses I think[/quote]

Read they searched his room and only found a Redskins Sweatshirt. Either kidnapping or he simply picked up and left.

NYCskinfan82 08-02-2012 03:20 PM

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[quote=Lotus;928098]Personally I like the idea of the option, draw, and other designed running play, used in moderation. The threat that Gryphon might run, beyond just ordinary scrambling, is a weapon in its own right and can be used to open up the passing game. A linebacker, safety, or cornerback who has to worry about Gryphon keeping will be distracted from passing game responsibilities. So I think Gryphon should run in an intentional way more than most other QB's.

However, I agree with you about the specter of injury. [B]So if Gryphon runs just enough to establish the threat and keep defenses honest, that will be good enough for me[/B].[/quote]

Agree 100%. He have to make sure DF's are aware of the threat that's the only way they will stay honest. He's FAST.

30gut 08-02-2012 03:24 PM

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[quote=Lotus;928098]....Gryphon..[/quote]its growing on me...
[IMG]http://www.gryphon-audio.net/Imagery/Gryphon_RW_logo_210900.jpg[/IMG]

NYCskinfan82 08-02-2012 03:32 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;928192]Balmer still MIA. Time to cut our losses I think[/quote]

Was looking for BIG things from him. Oh Well.

Monkeydad 08-02-2012 03:33 PM

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[quote=12thMan;928141]I might be attendance Saturday if any of you guys are headed that way.[/quote]

I'll be there too.

I'll be the ugly guy with the hot wife and cute kids.

NC_Skins 08-02-2012 04:14 PM

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[quote=mbedner3420;928195]Read they searched his room and only found a Redskins Sweatshirt. Either kidnapping or he simply picked up and left.[/quote]

That's pretty crappy they wouldn't even notify the coaching staff.

Lotus 08-02-2012 04:16 PM

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So ends the pointless career of Kentwan Balmer...

Monkeydad 08-02-2012 04:18 PM

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If he hadn't pulled this stunt with the 49ers, I'd be concerned.

What a waste. He treats playing in the NFL like it's nothing.

mbedner3420 08-02-2012 04:19 PM

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[quote=NC_Skins;928210]That's pretty crappy they wouldn't even notify the coaching staff.[/quote]

He's done it before to the 9ers. Hell, James Davis did the same thing to us last year too. We're 2 for 2 so far. Wonder how long the streak goes on for...

mooby 08-02-2012 06:26 PM

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[quote=NC_Skins;928210]That's pretty crappy they wouldn't even notify the coaching staff.[/quote]

Who's they?

Not that it matters, sounds like Kentwan Balmer just gave up. Pretty shitty of him to not let his coaches know though.

NC_Skins 08-02-2012 06:39 PM

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[quote=mooby;928235]Who's they?

Not that it matters, sounds like Kentwan Balmer just gave up. Pretty shitty of him to not let his coaches know though.[/quote]


They would be Balmer or his agent.

Mechanix544 08-02-2012 07:27 PM

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[quote=30gut;928198]its growing on me...
[IMG]http://www.gryphon-audio.net/Imagery/Gryphon_RW_logo_210900.jpg[/IMG][/quote]

someone needs to paste his face on there and put superman socks on all of the legs. Then that pic will look COOL!

I dont have any skillz.....

CultBrennan59 08-02-2012 08:00 PM

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You know what, if Kentwan Balmer leaving our team is our biggest problem, then we're in good shape. None of this Haynesworth crap, or McNabb not starting.

budw38 08-02-2012 09:29 PM

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[quote=mooby;928235]Who's they?

Not that it matters, sounds like Kentwan Balmer just gave up. Pretty shitty of him to not let his coaches know though.[/quote]
Maybe Petrino at U. of Arkansas will make room for him :)

Monksdown 08-03-2012 07:48 AM

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[quote=CultBrennan59;928252]You know what, if Kentwan Balmer leaving our team is our biggest problem, then we're in good shape. None of this Haynesworth crap, or McNabb not starting.[/quote]

Or people speculating that Colt Brennan was going to be our quarterback of the future, i'm so glad we're past that. :)

MTK 08-03-2012 08:07 AM

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[url=http://washingtonexaminer.com/redskins-practice-report-aug.-2/article/2503909]Redskins Practice Report: Aug. 2 | WashingtonExaminer.com[/url]

[url=http://washingtonexaminer.com/rgiii-report-aug.-2/article/2503911]RGIII Report: Aug. 2 | WashingtonExaminer.com[/url]

Chico23231 08-03-2012 09:17 AM

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[url=http://espn.go.com/blog/nfceast/post/_/id/41339/camp-confidential-washington-redskins-2]Camp Confidential: Washington Redskins - NFC East Blog - ESPN[/url]

"Shanahan named defensive lineman [B]Chris Baker [/B]as a player he thinks will surprise people. If that's true, the defensive line rotation looks formidable with Barry Cofield, Stephen Bowen, Adam Carriker and 2011 second-round pick Jarvis Jenkins, who missed his rookie year with a knee injury but is back and looking good."

Seeing his name again, looking forward to see what he does in the preseason games. I think Monkey mentioned it the other day and I agree, our front 7 has been built quite nicely.

Brody81 08-03-2012 09:22 AM

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Is anyone here going to Fan appreciation day tomorrow? If so, what can i expect? What time should i arrive?

mooby 08-03-2012 09:47 AM

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[quote=budw38;928269]Maybe Petrino at U. of Arkansas will make room for him :)[/quote]

Petrino's always got room for quitters. But then again didn't Petrino get fired from UofA after the motorcycle accident he got in with his mistress last year?

mooby 08-03-2012 09:49 AM

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[quote=Brody81;928314]Is anyone here going to Fan appreciation day tomorrow? If so, what can i expect? What time should i arrive?[/quote]

Get there early, and expect a huge crowd (probably record-breaking crowd, because if we can set a record attendance with a Beck-Grossman qb battle just imagine what it will be like with RG3). Also bring your own liquids, i.e. gatorade/water, since it will most likely be hot.

Chico23231 08-03-2012 09:54 AM

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ive never been to training camp but planning to go next year...can you drink beer there? Im being serious

mooby 08-03-2012 09:55 AM

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[quote=Chico23231;928326]ive never been to training camp but planning to go next year...can you drink beer there? Im being serious[/quote]

I believe so but there might be limitations on what you can bring, i.e. no kegs lol.

mbedner3420 08-03-2012 09:57 AM

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[quote=Brody81;928314]Is anyone here going to Fan appreciation day tomorrow? If so, what can i expect? What time should i arrive?[/quote]

I'll be there tomorrow -- just printed out my invitation. I plan on getting there at 8am with a few friends. Doors open at 9am and practice starts at noon. I plan on bringing a football to pass the time (and potentially get signed).

mbedner3420 08-03-2012 09:59 AM

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[quote=Chico23231;928326]ive never been to training camp but planning to go next year...can you drink beer there? Im being serious[/quote]

They might serve beer at the Johnny Rockets bus that will undoubtably be there... Can't recall, however. It's probably gonna be too hot next year to feel the buzz, unfortunately.

SmootSmack 08-03-2012 10:16 AM

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Alcohol isn't allowed

mooby 08-03-2012 10:43 AM

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[quote=SmootSmack;928332]Alcohol isn't allowed[/quote]

They might have changed that then. Or maybe my memory is fuzzy. You might be able to drink in the parking lot, I recall seeing people drinking a few on one of the times I went a few years back. Either way drinking at 8 in the morning isn't my style.

12thMan 08-03-2012 11:01 AM

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[quote=Brody81;928314]Is anyone here going to Fan appreciation day tomorrow? If so, what can i expect? What time should i arrive?[/quote]

Gates open at 8 AM. Probably should arrive before that if you want parking and get a good spot to sit watch the players.

Brody81 08-03-2012 11:04 AM

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Thanks everyone!! Taking my 3 year old.. Wish me luck.

SmootSmack 08-03-2012 11:10 AM

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[quote=mooby;928336]They might have changed that then. Or maybe my memory is fuzzy. You might be able to drink in the parking lot, I recall seeing people drinking a few on one of the times I went a few years back. Either way drinking at 8 in the morning isn't my style.[/quote]

Yeah you can sit in your car and drink. You can't stand by the practice field with a 40 in hand while watching running back drills

mbedner3420 08-03-2012 11:10 AM

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[quote=Brody81;928345]Thanks everyone!! Taking my 3 year old.. Wish me luck.[/quote]

Awesome! He (or she) will have a blast!

mooby 08-03-2012 11:19 AM

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[quote=SmootSmack;928346]Yeah you can sit in your car and drink. You can't stand by the practice field with a 40 in hand while watching running back drills[/quote]

Aw that's wack.


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