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There is quite a bit of overreacting to the Josh Morgan outburst. Yes, it was inconceivably stupid, but he's still a very good and valuable player for this offense.

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Morgan definitely pissed me off, but let's not jump the gun here. He's still going to contribute to the team, he just needs to have a sit down with some players. I mean he should know to control himself, but all game things were happening (not that it makes it right).

What pisses me off almost more is the fact that he decided to turn around, rather than just running and falling for the first down. Had he done that, none of the other stuff would have happened.

I understand trying to make a play happen, but in that type of situation, that late in the game you MUST go forward. Plain and simple.

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[quote=ArcticRed;941494]Excellent point. I WAS impressed how Fischer kept his cool when his team got a rash of bad calls early in the game. He never once lost his cool. In the second half of the game when the bad calls started to go our way, Mike was so red I thought he was going to have a heart attack.[/quote]

Thank you.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;941249]This is a dumb thread!! Morgan is not the first NFL player to make a bonehead play and won't be the last, he will redeem himself in the future. You should change your thread to get rid of Danny Smith and Jim Haslett instead.[/quote]

If this was a D Hall thread you'd be all about this...

But yeah this and the "can we sweep the east" thread really highlight how stupid fans can be. Horrible mistake by Morgan, but I would be very disappointed if they cut him

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Josh Morgan should have known better. Maybe the coaches might reduce his playing time in favor of Dezmon Briscoe. I'm surprised that Briscoe hasn't played one down on offense in the first two games.

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[quote=SmootSmack;941508]If this was a D Hall thread you'd be all about this...

But yeah this and the "can we sweep the east" thread really highlight how stupid fans can be. Horrible mistake by Morgan, but I would be very disappointed if they cut him[/quote]

Yeppers.

I think we'd all feel better if someone got canned. Can we hire back Cerato and turn around and very Publicly fire him so we can relax.

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[quote=RGIII;941355]Skeletor! Is that you?![/quote]

I'm getting a lot of shit for starting this thread, and i deserve it. But this response was definitely my favorite. haha, love it.

P.S. I was drunk.

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[quote=InsaneBoost;941500]Morgan definitely pissed me off, but let's not jump the gun here. He's still going to contribute to the team, he just needs to have a sit down with some players. I mean he should know to control himself, but all game things were happening (not that it makes it right).

[B]What pisses me off almost more is the fact that he decided to turn around, rather than just running and falling for the first down. Had he done that, none of the other stuff would have happened.
[/B]
I understand trying to make a play happen, but in that type of situation, that late in the game you MUST go forward. Plain and simple.[/quote]

Yes sir. Morgan was stupid twice over: (1) not going north-south and (2) throwing the ball.

You still don't cut him, though.

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[quote=GTripp0012;941388]Moss had a false start. Cut him too.[/quote]

Good point, but where would we come up with 6 receptions and 60 yards he's given us so far through 2 games?

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Oh and btw, BleacherReport immediately ran a poll asking this specific question. 40% said yes/60% said no. So demanding his roster spot isnt exactly left field.

[url=http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1336663-redskins-vs-rams-morgan-is-an-easy-scapegoat-but-washington-blew-it-as-a-team]Redskins vs. Rams: Morgan Is an Easy Scapegoat, but Washington Blew It as a Team | Bleacher Report[/url]

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Hes still on the roster.
Who are you backing now?

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The Redskins, dick.

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We didn't need Morgan in the first place. But the smart thing to do is sit him down for a week. One play doesn't lose a game.

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I know it's easy to blame Morgan, but so many other plays contributed to that loss.

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I agree it was not all of Josh's fault.

I also like to add so far our FA class of 2012 has been a big dud, sans Pierre's first half last week.

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Morgan, for as mind numbingly STUPID as that play was, is about 5th on the 'blame chart' for that loss. The timing of the penalty couldn't have been worse, but as someone else pointed out, his situational awareness of running towards the sidelines rather than getting up the field was worse. That set up the fact that it was a 4th down, so even if he threw the ball at an opponent it would have been dead ball, after the 1st down and we would have just lost the yardage.

The coaches (Haslett & Smith) are far more to blame, as are the refs. They were BRUTAL. Hopefully Morgan learns from his mistake. Expect Hankerson to get the start next week as a penalty.

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[quote=Paintrain;941559]Morgan, for as mind numbingly STUPID as that play was, is about 5th on the 'blame chart' for that loss. The timing of the penalty couldn't have been worse, but as someone else pointed out, his situational awareness of running towards the sidelines rather than getting up the field was worse. That set up the fact that it was a 4th down, so even if he threw the ball at an opponent it would have been dead ball, after the 1st down and we would have just lost the yardage.

The coaches (Haslett & Smith) are far more to blame, as are the refs. They were BRUTAL. Hopefully Morgan learns from his mistake. Expect Hankerson to get the start next week as a penalty.[/quote]

I'm actually hesitant to blame the defensive coaches. If anything the Rams did exactly what they needed to do by sticking to quick passes to neutralize the pass rush. Our front 7 is the strength of our defense. The secondary on the other hand is a huge weakness, which we knew going in.

Also people complained about them not playing man coverage but keep in mind when they finally switched to man coverage Bradford beat us deep.

The sad truth is for this defense to work we need to be able to get a pass rush going. This secondary is not good enough to play man to man coverage.

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Let me put it another way. Expecting the secondary to be able to play special is like going back to last year and expecting Grossman to play like a Pro-Bolwer. For the most part its a personnel problem but one we should be able to live with if the front 7 can get their act together which is about to be very difficult considering the injuries up front.

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You know, we all (at least the ones who really are fans) have those moments... You know, FIRE EVERYONE, YOU ARE ALL DEAD TO ME, CUT THE KICKER, throw the remote at the wall moments...

Trick is to not post a thread at that moment ;)

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[quote=Dirtbag59;941575]I'm actually hesitant to blame the defensive coaches. If anything the Rams did exactly what they needed to do by sticking to quick passes to neutralize the pass rush. Our front 7 is the strength of our defense. The secondary on the other hand is a huge weakness, which we knew going in.

Also people complained about them not playing man coverage but keep in mind when they finally switched to man coverage Bradford beat us deep.

The sad truth is for this defense to work we need to be able to get a pass rush going. This secondary is not good enough to play man to man coverage.[/quote]

This. This. And this.

No secondary, whether man or zone, can hold up with no pass rush. And even without Rak, our front 7 should have dominated that weak Rams line. Our front 7 players should be ashamed by their performance (or lack of it) yesterday.

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[quote=Dirtbag59;941575]I'm actually hesitant to blame the defensive coaches. If anything the Rams did exactly what they needed to do by sticking to quick passes to neutralize the pass rush. Our front 7 is the strength of our defense. The secondary on the other hand is a huge weakness, which we knew going in.

Also people complained about them not playing man coverage but keep in mind when they finally switched to man coverage Bradford beat us deep.

The sad truth is for this defense to work we need to be able to get a pass rush going. This secondary is not good enough to play man to man coverage.[/quote]

I think the reason I put some blame on the coaches is because the Rams had inferior talent (or what we thought was inferior talent) at the offensive line and wide receivers. How is it that they were able to keep Brees, the Saints o-line and receivers at bay? Maybe the Saints are that bad. But there were tweets by some insiders about Haslett not being good at making adjustments, and to me that kinda showed during this game.

I am by no means trying to excuse the lack of talent in the secondary. But it was inexcusable to have such a poor showing in the pass rush and letting Bradford look like a hall of famer out there.

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Im not blaming injury but remember this:

Rak out after 1st quarter
Carriker out after 1st quarter
Peirre Garcon out
Brandon Merriweather out

missing 4 starters killed us yesterday. injury bug has been nasty the last couple years.

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They really need to cut him. Orakpo's reaction on the sideline said it all! Moss wouldn't have done that.

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[quote=Ruhskins;941585]I think the reason I put some blame on the coaches is because the Rams had inferior talent (or what we thought was inferior talent) at the offensive line and wide receivers. How is it that they were able to keep Brees, the Saints o-line and receivers at bay? Maybe the Saints are that bad. But there were tweets by some insiders about Haslett not being good at making adjustments, and to me that kinda showed during this game.

I am by no means trying to excuse the lack of talent in the secondary. But it was inexcusable to have such a poor showing in the pass rush and letting Bradford look like a hall of famer out there.[/quote]

I think it's fair to consider the Rams aren't as bad as we thought. They took the Lions down to the wire in week 1. I think they could be a .500 type of team, sort of like the Skins.

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[quote=Chico23231;941586]Im not blaming injury but remember this:

Rak out after 1st quarter
Carriker out after 1st quarter
Peirre Garcon out
Brandon Merriweather out

missing 4 starters killed us yesterday. injury bug has been nasty the last couple years.[/quote]Injuries are a poor excuse, because every team has them to some degree. The Rams had players injured along their O-line, yet the Skins D still couldn't stop their offense.

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When the Redskins let Brees put up 300 yards and 3 TD on them in a WIN, no one was talking about the 32 points they put up, but now the Rams put up another 28 on this supposed great Defense. Bottom line after two games is that the Redskins better score a lot of points this year, because this Defense can't slow other teams down. As frustrated as I was at the end by Morgan, Cundiff may have still missed what would have been a 47-48 yard FG and we would all be yelling at him. Our Defense has to do a better job if they are going to let a guy like Sam Bradford abuse them like that.

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[quote=SouperMeister;941592]Injuries are a poor excuse, because every team has them to some degree. The Rams had players injured along their O-line, yet the Skins D still couldn't stop their offense.[/quote]

agree, not an excuse. Woulda like to see how the defense would have played with Rak and AC in all day. I think they are difference makers in our scheme and along the D-Line. Barry Coefield gave a disappointing effort. Bowen was good again.

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Do we want to sack Aldrick Robinson as well for dropping a sure TD.

Also like others have said the defense did us no favors.

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[quote=REDSKINS4ever;941510]Josh Morgan should have known better. Maybe the coaches might reduce his playing time in favor of Dezmon Briscoe. I'm surprised that Briscoe hasn't played one down on offense in the first two games.[/quote]

He was in there yesterday. Ran a bad route on a play that almost led to a pick.

3rd quarter:
(2:04) (Shotgun) 10-R.Griffin pass incomplete short right to 19-D.Briscoe (32-B.Fletcher).

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I just wanna ask Morgan, why did he turn back outside after making the catch.

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[quote=SouperMeister;941592]Injuries are a poor excuse, because every team has them to some degree. The Rams had players injured along their O-line, yet the Skins D still couldn't stop their offense.[/quote]

The rams also had Michael brockers out, that is one nasty DL they got.

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We will be fine, the Rams aren't that bad. Regroup and focus on the Bengals. Hopefully Garcon will be ready.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;941607]I just wanna ask Morgan, why did he turn back outside after making the catch.[/quote]

I think his first thought might have been to get out of bounds.

We had no time outs left at that point.

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Everyone in the NFC East is now 1-1 except for those lucky Eagles, who despite many turnovers are somehow 2-0. No one has played anyone in the division yet and after two weeks if you would have told me the Skins would have been 1-1, I would have said "yeah they will lose to the Saints and beat the Rams!" it hasn't happen that way but the results are the same.

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[quote=Mattyk;941589]I think it's fair to consider the Rams aren't as bad as we thought. They took the Lions down to the wire in week 1. I think they could be a .500 type of team, sort of like the Skins.[/quote]

I agree... they are have been rebuilding for longer, and Bradford might be coming into his own, now that he's got some weapons.

BTW for all the people who don't have a clue who Danny Amendola is, he's been compared to Wes Welker in terms of upside skillset and potential for a couple years now, his injury last year and the fact that he's been on bad teams has kept that hype on low simmer.

Remember just because you didn't draft him in the first round of your fantasy draft doesn't mean he's a scrub.

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[quote=scowan;941622]Everyone in the NFC East is now 1-1 except for those lucky Eagles, who despite many turnovers are somehow 2-0. No one has played anyone in the division yet and after two weeks if you would have told me the Skins would have been 1-1, I would have said "yeah they will lose to the Saints and beat the Rams!" it hasn't happen that way but the results are the same.[/quote]

Cowboys beat the Giants.

And the Iggles should be 0-2. Grrrrrrr.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk;941616]I think his first thought might have been to get out of bounds.



We had no time outs left at that point.[/QUOTE]



While I understand that, there was a full minute left in the game. He had the 1st down easily .

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;941642]While I understand that, there was a full minute left in the game. He had the 1st down easily .[/quote]

Yes. North-south running was by far his best choice.

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[quote=Chico23231;941319]Next lets cut Hank for [I]almost[/I] dropping the long TD reception.[/quote]

Robinson DID drop one! Hit him right on the hands.


Bonehead play by Morgan but between Bradford's GREAT day and the refs' horrible day...we can't blame Morgan completely.

Bottom line though, the Rams just outplayed us.



Hopefully Garcon is back next week...we're definitely a notch less dangerous on offense without him.

Am I the only one thinking, I bet Gano would have made that kick?