This loss stings because we were at home and actually came all the way back, but if we can't stop teams like this we won't win many more games at all

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[quote=skinsfan69;943975]Who cares what the rank was. How many games did we win last year? This team wasn't a good one last year and the defense was part of that.[/quote]

Um, those losses were mostly contributed to the sorry arse who played QB with 2 INT's per game. Otherwise we were within 7 points in each loss, except 2 games which were blow outs.

[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;944029]This loss stings because we were at home and actually came all the way back, but if we can't stop teams like this we won't win many more games at all[/QUOTE]

We cant stop anyone okie. Thats been apparent. Thats why im scratching my head about putting the game on the hands of our defense when we had momentum on fourth and inches. At least i dont have an 8 hour ride home. Sorry couldnt resist. Lol.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;944029]This loss stings because we were at home and actually came all the way back, but if we can't stop teams like this we won't win many more games at all[/quote]

We [I]should[/I] beat the Bucs. Even with all the bad juju these past 2 weeks, I'm still holding onto hope for next week, because if there was any games we should've won it was these past 2. After the Bucs its the Falcons (Matt Ryan) maybe a win against the Vikes, but then its the Giants and the Steelers. Things aren't gonna get any easier.

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[quote=SBXVII;944026]Watch what you wish for. Haslett needs to go but I don't foresee Morris being the answer either. Unless you like the Tampa 2 defense. Which I'm not a fan of.

I'd rather suck this year, and hope a decent 3-4 Co-ordinator comes available. I'd crap myself if Rex Ryan got canned and we picked him up. He's another Norv Turner. Great DC not so great HC.[/quote]

what were the jets before ryan got there? he's a pretty damn good head coach. just needs to tone it down sometimes with his big mouth.

[QUOTE=punch it in;944031]We cant stop anyone okie. Thats been apparent. Thats why im scratching my head about putting the game on the hands of our defense when we had momentum on fourth and inches. At least i dont have an 8 hour ride home. Sorry couldnt resist. Lol.[/QUOTE]

Yeah man your lucky! I agree we should have went for it, sometimes Mike just does things that u facepalm.

So mooby are you going to tell me where the escalators that go to 400 are. My legs are still burning. Lol

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I wasn't surprised we lost, being that AJ Green would destroy our secondary, which obviously he did.

Losing Orakpo wasn't that huge of a loss during the game and Jarvis did good aswell. It all stems from our secondary and how crappy it is.

RG3 needs to throw more and option less. Shanahan is going to get him killed before game 5 at this pace.

We need Pierre back for a downfield threat.

The refs, like everyone mentioned already, blowed.

We wasted 2 timeouts in the span of 3 plays in the 3rd quarter...Stupid.

Congrats to whoever it was who called us getting BenJarvis's first NFL fumble!

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[quote=DynamiteRave;944033]We [I]should[/I] beat the Bucs. Even with all the bad juju these past 2 weeks, I'm still holding onto hope for next week, because if there was any games we should've won it was these past 2. After the Bucs its the Falcons (Matt Ryan) [B]maybe a win against the Vikes[/B], but then its the Giants and the Steelers. Things aren't gonna get any easier.[/quote]

You mean the same Vikes team that just beat the 49ers?

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[quote=Bucket;944024]We know you dont like D hall.[B] Its all on him[/B].. Hes the reason we lost and gave Bengals 38 points. He was in man coverage when Green had the 70 yard catch.. Now that sarcasm is over..... Its not D Hall.. He just a DB in a weak secondary. Wilson was a hero coming in to this game, but got beatdown today. He gave up way more plays the Hall did

People need to open their eyes, but i guethess its whatever helps you accept the loss.[/quote]

In regards to D Hall this is what I said.

[quote=Dirtbag59;943942]
DeAngelo Hall has to go though. Takes up to much cap space and can't cover.[/quote]

[quote=Dirtbag59;943956]DeAneglo Hall is making $6 million right now with a $600k release fee. I say we start there this offseason.[/quote]

Truth is I agree that the whole secondary sucks. However right now the team is in cap hell and D-Hall has done nothing to separate himself from the guys making $2 to $3 million a year. He certainly hasn't justified the current $6 million cap number he carries. Also time and time again he's proven himself to be a liability in coverage with his risk-reward style.

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Shannahans are not the answer. Funny how everyone pointed the finger at McNabb being the problem. Guess what, he's not here, and we're still looking like a 6 and 10 team who lets any QB play like a superstar against our D.

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Hey. Cedric Griffin, Credzon Butler, Helu and Trent all got injured this game.

DBs getting a little thin.

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[quote=punch it in;944028]Living in jersey i have been to about a dozen games at fedex. I have always been ushered to the ramp by the worker bee's when i show em my ticket. So if there is an escalator that goes to 400 i dont know where the hell it is. When i leave i am ushered along with thousands others down the ramp again. ?[/quote]

Really? When I go I take Metro and when you walk up Morgan Boulevard you can see the escalators to the left of the entrance right on the left side of Morgan Boulevard. I'm not trying to insult you here lol. Maybe they've started ushering people down the ramps to avoid the escalators crowding like they always do.

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[quote=Dirtbag59;943979]No NFL Receiver should ever gain 183 yards in a single game. I don't care if it's Jerry Rice in his prime or if it's single coverage on an island. 183 yards is unacceptable. This isn't college ball.[/quote]

I haven't looked but I'd be interested to see how much run yrds they got. Just thinking maybe we shut down the run but not the pass. In reality I'd have prefered to shut down the pass and hope to keep the RB in front of us.

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[quote=SBXVII;944044]I haven't looked but I'd be interested to see how much run yrds they got. Just thinking maybe we shut down the run but not the pass. In reality I'd have prefered to shut down the pass and hope to keep the RB in front of us.[/quote]

We held them to 93 total rush yards.

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[quote=SBXVII;944030]Um, those losses were mostly contributed to the sorry arse who played QB with 2 INT's per game. Otherwise we were within 7 points in each loss, except 2 games which were blow outs.[/quote]

we were an average defense last year. no more no less. the defense has regressed this year because we simply can't cover anyone. the safties we have should all be full time back ups. hall has never covered anyone in 5 years. haslett should never leave his corners one on one w/ no safety help cause he knows they won't hold up. that first play of the game was on him. where was the safety help and why was a safety covering their best wr one on one?

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;943986]My impressions of the game:

1. The read option has got to go bye-bye. I don't even care that running it helped us get back in the game today because it is going to get RGIII hurt.

2. This Redskins secondary may be the worst one I've seen since before the George Allen era.

3. We have big problems protecting the passer.

4. The players are playing very hard. I give them credit for their great effort.

5. We just don't have enough good players.[/quote]

Soo, let me get this right.... you'd prefer after we gave up so much to get RG3, an extremely mobile QB and the main reason why we picked him up that the coach's keep him in the pocket and get hit and smacked around and possibly hurt? ok.

[QUOTE=mooby;944043]Really? When I go I take Metro and when you walk up Morgan Boulevard you can see the escalators to the left of the entrance right on the left side of Morgan Boulevard. I'm not trying to insult you here lol. Maybe they've started ushering people down the ramps to avoid the escalators crowding like they always do.[/QUOTE]

Oh no man i know ur not. Lol. I park in brightseat dirt lot and walk in that side. Not too familiar with the area so thats about as concise as i can be. But if there are escalators on that side they are hidden from my site.

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[quote=mooby;944043]Really? When I go I take Metro and when you walk up Morgan Boulevard you can see the escalators to the left of the entrance right on the left side of Morgan Boulevard. I'm not trying to insult you here lol. Maybe they've started ushering people down the ramps to avoid the escalators crowding like they always do.[/quote]

The escalators go to the club level.

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Our secondary suck, that's evident. That's why we brought Morris in to shape the secondary up but seems like he still have ways to go. 10+ touchdown passes in 3 games already. I never was a Haslett fan and he continues to remind me the reason why I never was one.

Although we lost, there were positives. Griffin continues to impress us all. He did held on the ball little too long few plays but that's what you get for going deep. Almost a comeback at the ending, if not for penalties and and Hankerson injury, we would have had a good chance. I'm kinda concerned about how often Griffin take hits, we really need to try reduce that. Morris is a stud, he always find good holes and runs hard. Hankerson had a solid game, Davis played good.

Rob Jackson stepped up today in the game, he made some plays. Kerrigan is relentless! So glad we got him.


Some of you people act like the season is over already. Dude we still have many games left to go

[quote=SBXVII;944026]I'd rather suck this year, and hope a decent 3-4 Co-ordinator comes available. I'd crap myself if Rex Ryan got canned and we picked him up. He's another Norv Turner. Great DC not so great HC.[/quote]


I like Rex's playcall style but not his attitude. And I don't think Shanny will put up with it too.

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[quote=punch it in;944036]So mooby are you going to tell me where the escalators that go to 400 are. My legs are still burning. Lol[/quote]

lol sure.

[IMG]http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/28/lolescalators.jpg/[/IMG]

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[quote=redskins5044;944050]The escalators go to the club level.[/quote]

No, the escalators go to the 400 level. See the previous image. Those are different escalators that go to club level. If you look at my image Morgan Boulevard is in the lower right hand corner, I walk right up that street, go in through the entrances to the left, and then turn the immediate corner and head up the escalators.

[QUOTE=mooby;944053]lol sure.

[IMG]http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/28/lolescalators.jpg/[/IMG][/QUOTE]

Cant see this on my iphone. Ill check it out when i get home. Thanks. Lol

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[quote=punch it in;944049]Oh no man i know ur not. Lol. I park in brightseat dirt lot and walk in that side. Not too familiar with the area so thats about as concise as i can be. But if there are escalators on that side they are hidden from my site.[/quote]

Sounds like that's on the other side. Like I said when I go in I take Metro and the escalators are right there on the left hand side when you walk up Morgan Boulevard from the Metro station.

[QUOTE=mooby;944057]Sounds like that's on the other side. Like I said when I go in I take Metro and the escalators are right there on the left hand side when you walk up Morgan Boulevard from the Metro station.[/QUOTE]

Ill have to remember that. I am so depressed rite now. Only thing i know for sure is we have a qb. Just seems like over the last several years we were a good qb away from winning. How is the d so freaking much worse than last year?

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No more option pay, kid has the smarts and the arm let him run a regular offense.

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[quote=DynamiteRave;944042]Hey. Cedric Griffin, Credzon Butler, Helu and Trent all got injured this game.

DBs getting a little thin.[/quote]

We should start a new prediction thread. "Who will go down this week?" Sure it's a little morbid but at this rate it would definitely encourage active discussion.

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what the hail

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Our defense is terrible. Perhaps the coaching sucks, I don't know. What I do know is that we don't have good talent on d and our coaching, good or bad, can't change that. I guess more accurately we don't have good enough talent in th secondary and we dont get good enough push up the middle to take advantage of our good lb play.

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[quote=DynamiteRave;944046]We held them to 93 total rush yards.[/quote]

One of which was a big gainer by dalton.

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[B]Redskins ‏@Redskins

Shanahan says 1-2 officials on the #Redskins sideline told coaches the game was over. Coaches disagreed, penalty ensued. #HTTR [/B]





[B]Rob Carlin ‏@RobCarlin

Kyle Shanahan chased down refs in hallway after game and gave them a verbal dress down.. #Redskins.. #RedskinsTalk
[/B]



Somebody is getting fines this week. Too bad it isn't any of the refs in this game.

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I guess, if you consider "**** you, you ****ing pu**ies" a verbal dress down

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[quote=DynamiteRave;943960]I can't even blame the whole defense. The LBs have been playing basically lights out.

I honestly can't figure out what's wrong with the defense this year. They're basically the same defense from last year save a few moves here and there. But somehow we've gone from 13th ranked last year to currently 28th.[/quote]

If you recall, this defense was around 30th the year before...weve got serious problems with not much hope on defense unless something significant changes, such as scheme, coaching, or talent...and that is hard to change midseason...but in yr 3, we should be holding teams under 20 pts easy...if we did, wed be undefeated. I feel bad for RG3 and all skins fans

[QUOTE=FRPLG;944066]Our defense is terrible. Perhaps the coaching sucks, I don't know. What I do know is that we don't have good talent on d and our coaching, good or bad, can't change that. I guess more accurately we don't have good enough talent in th secondary and we dont get good enough push up the middle to take advantage of our good lb play.[/QUOTE]

Yes but even with orakpo and kerrigan our d is sooo much worse than last year. I mean landry never played and atogwe stunk. Why is the d so terrible?

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[quote=SmootSmack;944070]I guess, if you consider "**** you, you ****ing pu**ies" a verbal dress down[/quote]


If so, Kyle just scored major bonus points with me. :laughing2

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[quote=SmootSmack;944070]I guess, if you consider "**** you, you ****ing pu**ies" a verbal dress down[/quote]

Good enough for me. His wallet will be a little bit lighter this week but so be it.

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[quote=NC_Skins;944068][B]Redskins ‏@Redskins[/B]

[B]Shanahan says 1-2 officials on the #Redskins sideline told coaches the game was over. Coaches disagreed, penalty ensued. #HTTR [/B]





[B]Rob Carlin ‏@RobCarlin[/B]

[B]Kyle Shanahan chased down refs in hallway after game and gave them a verbal dress down.. #Redskins.. #RedskinsTalk [/B]




Somebody is getting fines this week. Too bad it isn't any of the refs in this game.[/quote]

Well they are replacement refs, there should be a replacement fines. lol. Cheaper since they are not the actual refs. lol.

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[quote=SmootSmack;944070]I guess, if you consider "**** you, you ****ing pu**ies" a verbal dress down[/quote]

LOL. Oh please let that be there on YouTube somewhere!

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[quote=mooby;944001]
Is it better to have a shitty defense capable of forcing turnovers, or a solid/good defense that doesn't force any turnovers? [/quote]

I don't give a crap if we have a top 10 defense with a Carlos Rodgers who cant catch a pick....those teams kept teams under 20 points...that is basic.

We got a pick today for 7 points...but we gave up 38....that is net 31 points against them and that flat out sucks...the only hope is if we continue to suck bad so we can change coordinators...we have no top draft picks for 2 years and no cash...so the only significant changes we can make is coaching...and I have always been concerned about Haslet...even when I heard we were signing him.
Danny Smith is also suspect...but would Shanny pull the plug if they continue to suck mid season??....unlikely

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The problem with the defense is that Shanahan and Allen (and Haslett) have signed a crap ton of bad players and due to age and cap, none of the defensive players from the Gibbs/Williams era are here anymore. Carriker's injury was bad luck. As was Jenkins last year. Orakpo's was probably a mixture of bad luck and hard headed-ness on multiple parties.

But the fact that Madieu Williams, DeAngelo Hall, Cedric Griffin, Richard Crawford, and Dejon Gomes are key pieces of the 2012 Redskins is a design flaw, not the result of good strategy/bad results.