[QUOTE=44Deezel;947567]The 15 point lead should have been a 21 point lead. The O looks good until they get a big lead. We're finally scoring TDs in the red zone. Next step is learning to play with the lead/closing teams out. I believe we're ahead of the curve and will be the team to beat in the NFC East in 2-3 years.[/QUOTE]

Oh my god now its three years. Wtf?? Lol At this point all i can say is that im still not sold on the coaches but i think rg3 might just give them all years of job security.

Three years. Seven years. Same thing really.

[QUOTE=GTripp0012;947569]Three years. Seven years. Same thing really.[/QUOTE]

Haha. I went back to edit because i didnt want to be debbie downer on a win.

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[quote=punch it in;947568]Oh my god now its three years. Wtf?? Lol At this point all i can say is that im still not sold on the coaches but i think rg3 might just give them all years of job security.[/quote]

Lets hope thats counting this year as year 1. I was looking to next year more or less. But that better not be 2-3 years after this one.

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[quote=44Deezel;947567]The 15 point lead should have been a 21 point lead. The O looks good until they get a big lead. We're finally scoring TDs in the red zone. Next step is learning to play with the lead/closing teams out. I believe we're ahead of the curve and will be the team to beat in the NFC East in 2-3 years.[/quote]

I think* our "problem" on offense is that we aren't terribly expansive in what we do week to week because we have a rookie cb. Now that QB is awesome and makes up for a lack of offensive diversity but defenses seems to be adjusting during games and boxing us in. This will change as the year goes on. Imagine what Bob is gonna be like in a few years when his command of this offense is second nature.

[QUOTE=punch it in;947570]Haha. I went back to edit because i didnt want to be debbie downer on a win.[/QUOTE]

A win is a win. We don't have to apologize for it. If there's something on my mind ill say it.

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We do not have enough speed and size at the Cb position. Wilson and Hall are not going to win many foot races with the WR's in the NFL they are tasked to cover. Then you add that Wilson is short and Hall is starting to get old. Hall is not the singular problem and he should not be singled out. In fact he did make a few good plays today.
The Safety position is a much bigger issue than the CB position, so blaming Hall is a bit misguided and uninformed as to what is really happening on the field.

Another area for improvement is our offense and RGIII need to incorporate the TE's more in the offense and passing game. You hear all the great QB's talk about the TE being their security blanket. Brady has Gronk and Brees has Graham....Matt Schaub who runs the same Shanahan system in Houston relies heavily on Owen Daniels. RGII is just now in the last two weeks starting to target Davis more. This trend needs to continue to grow and incorporate the other TE's. This will free up the coverage on the Wr's.
I have a feeling RGIII did not throw a ton to his Te's in college.?.?.?

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[quote=Skinzman;947537]Im not going to say he was great every play, but you cant get better coverage on some of those than he had today. That one throw by Freeman was perfect, just barely out of reach of Halls outstretched arm, and TJax still had to reach for it himself. A perfect pass will not be stopped by Revis and Ed Reed in double coverage.

As for Range in coverage, 2 deep already has them deep and if they only see one receiver going deep to their side, its an easy read to get there. And since our pass coverage took 5-7 seconds for our rush, the secondary should have given up 400 yards through the air. You do know our defense has 11 players, not 4.[/quote]

The word separation gets over-used. In the NFL, it's about finding single coverage and putting the ball where the receiver can make a play. D-Hall had good coverage, but receivers in single coverage should win most of the time if the ball is thrown well. Any corner would have been toast on that play.

Hankerson had a similar play but mis-timed his jump, barely got off the ground and looked ridiculous trying to make the catch. A lot of receivers would have at least made a better play on the ball. The good ones would have made the catch.

[QUOTE=GTripp0012;947573]A win is a win. We don't have to apologize for it. If there's something on my mind ill say it.[/QUOTE]

I hear ya man and love that. I did point out in my edit that im still not sold on the coaching staff. RG3 will by them years of job security and your rite wins are wins. If we get healthy and build our oline and secondary and morris turns into the great rb i think he can be we could be in the money. The coaches with the help of cundiff really almost blew it though. Thank you Bob!

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[quote=Defensewins;947574]We do not have enough speed and size at the Cb position. Wilson and Hall are not going to win many foot races with the WR's in the NFL they are tasked to cover. Then you add that Wilson is short and Hall is starting to get old. Hall is not the singular problem and he should not be singled out. In fact he did make a few good plays today.
The Safety position is a much bigger issue than the CB position, so blaming Hall is a bit misguided and uninformed as to what is really happening on the field.

Another area for improvement is our offense and RGIII need to incorporate the TE's more in the offense and passing game. You hear all the great QB's talk about the TE being their security blanket. Brady has Gronk and Brees has Graham....Matt Schaub who runs the same Shanahan system in Houston relies heavily on Owen Daniels. RGII is just now in the last two weeks starting to target Davis more. This trend needs to continue to grow and incorporate the other TE's. This will free up the coverage on the Wr's.
I have a feeling RGIII did not throw a ton to his Te's in college.?.?.?[/quote]

Still not getting enough pressure on the QB, which weakens most secondaries.

And as far as Offense goes, is it just me or does every pass seem to go to the middle of the field. Where are the sideline routes? The fades, fly patterns, outs, etc? And I wanna see some passes in the end zone from beyond the 10 yard line. The runs up the middle are going to get RG3 killed.

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[quote=DynamiteRave;947563]Guess they won't be coming back to visit anytime soon.[/quote]

Exactly.. They'll "visit" other fan forums when they (Bucs fans) haven't officially lost yet; but will delete their "accounts" when they lose... very childish

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This is the first time in years I'm excited to play a top team. I want to throw Griffin in the fire and see what he does. For years we were the team loosing to the worst teams in the league. Now RGIII gives us a chance against anyone.

Can you imagine if our oline was better? His decision making is great so far

Wheres Lynard? Hahaha.

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[quote=Defensewins;947574]We do not have enough speed and size at the Cb position. Wilson and Hall are not going to win many foot races with the WR's in the NFL they are tasked to cover. Then you add that Wilson is short and Hall is starting to get old. Hall is not the singular problem and he should not be singled out. In fact he did make a few good plays today.
[B]The Safety position is a much bigger issue than the CB position, so blaming Hall is a bit misguided and uninformed as to what is really happening on the field. [/B] [/quote]

I agree.

[QUOTE=SKINSnCANES;947582]This is the first time in years I'm excited to play a top team. I want to throw Griffin in the fire and see what he does. For years we were the team loosing to the worst teams in the league. Now RGIII gives us a chance against anyone.

Can you imagine if our oline was better? His decision making is great so far[/QUOTE]

It will be. He really does give us a chance. I think he is growing up each week and he is already scary good.
Oh and were both skins/canes fans and from nj. Did u go to the U?

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[quote=44Deezel;947575]The word separation gets over-used. In the NFL, it's about finding single coverage and putting the ball where the receiver can make a play. D-Hall had good coverage, but receivers in single coverage should win most of the time if the ball is thrown well. Any corner would have been toast on that play.

Hankerson had a similar play but mis-timed his jump, barely got off the ground and looked ridiculous trying to make the catch. A lot of receivers would have at least made a better play on the ball. The good ones would have made the catch.[/quote]

Yeah I saw that from Hank. It was late on that long pass where the announcers were saying they should be running to take time off the clock. Hank slowed down to try and undercut the CB then out jump him. Had he kept running, thats probably a complete pass since he came up several yards short. And yeah, he looked pretty bad on that one, terrible adjustment to the ball in the air.

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Can you guys imagine what Joe Gibbs could have done with RGIII?

[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;947587]Can you guys imagine what Joe Gibbs could have done with RGIII?[/QUOTE]

And the hoggs. Oh my god. Rg3 on that team in the 80's probably wins about five rings.

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Well, I am glad my prediction of us getting blown out today was wrong. I hear and understand all of comments regarding all that is wrong with our team. Played small school Division II college ball for four years and our head coach always told us...ANY game won on the road is a GOOD win. This is the NFL, whatever the stats/schedule may indicate, we went on the road in what was arguably a must-win for us, and our ROOKIE QB led a game winning drive. Nuff said.

I just saw the replay of the collision between bw and ar You cant make that shit up.

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[quote=punch it in;947589]And the hoggs. Oh my god. Rg3 on that team in the 80's probably wins about five rings.[/quote]

Which makes me appreciate what he did with 3 different QB's that were average, except Theismann.

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Almost forgot...of all the questionable moves by Shanny so for...I can, without hesitation say that I'm sure as heck he got it right with RG3!!!!!!!

[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;947600]Which makes me appreciate what he did with 3 different QB's that were average, except Theismann.[/QUOTE]

Look at any other dynasty. Brady. Bradshaw. Montana/young. Gibbs did it with Joe T and a couple of journeymen. Unreal.

[QUOTE=Rev.SkinsFan;947602]Almost forgot...of all the questionable moves by Shanny so for...I can, without hesitation say that I'm sure as heck he got it right with RG3!!!!!!![/QUOTE]

Yes he did but when rex and beck are your qb's how difficult is that decision?

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[quote=44Deezel;947575]
Hankerson had a similar play but mis-timed his jump, barely got off the ground and looked ridiculous trying to make the catch. A lot of receivers would have at least made a better play on the ball. The good ones would have made the catch.[/quote]

I'm glad someone else noticed this. Both Hank and Niles Paul have the ability to make it look as though Griff just threw a slightly "off" pass, when the fact is that they don't have a knack for finding the ball and grabbing it.

Speaking of WRs, is Garcon really a douche? I was liking the fact that the Shans had gotten rid of our knuckleheads, and then along comes this BS. Seriously, what's his rep in the league?

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[quote=punch it in;947603]Look at any other dynasty. Brady. Bradshaw. Montana/young. Gibbs did it with Joe T and a couple of journeymen. Unreal.[/quote]

Yep, the thing that angers me is that Walsh, Noll, Belichick are viewed as better than Joe G.

[QUOTE=HTTR;947605]I'm glad someone else noticed this. Both Hank and Niles Paul have the ability to make it look as though Griff just threw a slightly "off" pass, when the fact is that they don't have a knack for finding the ball and grabbing it.

Speaking of WRs, is Garcon really a douche? I was liking the fact that the Shans had gotten rid of our knuckleheads, and then along comes this BS. Seriously, what's his rep in the league?[/QUOTE]

I think paul has no hands period. Hank i think can be a very good wr in time.
Ive never heard of garcon having discipline problems. I dont know though. Hopefully it was just a brainfart.

[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;947606]Yep, the thing that angers me is that Walsh, Noll, Belichick are viewed as better than Joe G.[/QUOTE]

It is strange. I mean gibbs is a hof'er but it does seem like he takes second fiddle to those coaches.

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[quote=punch it in;947608]It is strange. I mean gibbs is a hof'er but it does seem like he takes second fiddle to those coaches.[/quote]

If Gibbs had Montana or Brady, he would have won 6 SB's. oh we'll, I'll take the 3.

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who else about had a heart attack before the last missed field goal by us when RG3 was tackled and went down awkward with his knee planted and he got twisted back!? I never want to see that again we got lucky that easily could've been a really bad injury

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glad we won.

Why are we only converting 2-11 on 3rd downs? Serious question, what are we not doing right on that specific down. It doesn't seem like distance really matters?

[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;947611]glad we won.

Why are we only converting 2-11 on 3rd downs? Serious question, what are we not doing right on that specific down. It doesn't seem like distance really matters?[/QUOTE]

I noticed guys not running to the chains today. Thats been a problem for the last three years. Even if the qb has to get rid of the ball quick our wr's are making their cuts like three yards short of the chains?

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;947611]glad we won.

Why are we only converting 2-11 on 3rd downs? Serious question, what are we not doing right on that specific down. It doesn't seem like distance really matters?[/quote]

I would like to see what the down and distance is on the 3rd downs. I would venture to say we face more then 65% of those 3rd downs in a 3rd and longer than 5 yards. I saw at least 3 3-10+ plus yards today.

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Was a fun game to watch. Coaches had a good game plan today on offense and defense. Our special teams is a woe for the 3rd week, out of the four played this year and that's alarming.

Penalties stopped a few drives that looked promising with some bonehead moves. I noticed on the V. Jackson touchdown that D. Hall played to the inside release, and Haslett was yelling on M. Williams that he was playing to soft? Could of been D. Hall as well. Only read his lips partly.

Defense didn't play to bad since we are still missing 3 solid players in key roles. You can't hold a team for 6 points in the first half.. Come out on offense in the 2nd half, and not put any points on the board. Expecting the defense to just hold them out of the endzone all game. Our defense is not elite like that.

A few notes that could of changed the game.

-The two PF calls against the Bucs on RG 3 today. Both happen at key moments in the game and helped us, and both I disagreed with.

-RG3 not reaching out on the 3rd down play that got reviewed. I guess that's just field awareness. First down there, and the game is about over.

-Play call on 2nd down, right before the reviewed play?

-Alfred Morris's underrated pass blocking today

-RG3 still not throwing the ball away. Seems he's always trying to make the play even when there isn't any. Don't think that'll ever change though.

-Riley still taking a lot of bad angles.

-We lost a game in Cincy by a few plays that were determined by a matter of inches. Today, we won that battle. They throwback play on 3rd down was literally on target by less the half a yard.

Here we come Falcons... Hopefully we can rise to the occasion and shock the world.

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[quote=punch it in;947604]Yes he did but when rex and beck are your qb's how difficult is that decision?[/quote]

Im critical of Shanny as a GM, but this is one place he deserves credit. Most people were screaming for Gabbert last year. Even if we take Dalton, who will be a good one if he isnt considered that already, would struggle with our Oline. Add in that he wont have Green and be behind our Oline, and he is throwing for 100 yards and 3 ints per game.

Waiting one more year against everyones wishes was the right move for this team. RG3 is proving himself to be worth every pick we sent to the Rams plus some.

[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;947611]glad we won.

Why are we only converting 2-11 on 3rd downs? Serious question, what are we not doing right on that specific down. It doesn't seem like distance really matters?[/QUOTE]

Didn't notice it today, but in previous games we don't seem to have plays for third and short. This third down stat is going to kill us down the road.

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Yeah, those darn falcons, I tell ya.

No but seriously for someone whose picked us to lose the past two weeks, I really can see us winning that game. Its really typical redskins, bring your A game against the great teams, bring your C game against the bad teams. Atlanta's hot right now, and is a top 5 team IMO. Containing those two WR's is going to be the key to winning that game (and really tough) but playing at Home and with a win and the best offense in the NFL, anything can happen.

quick fact; the past 6 years the skins have played the eventual super bowl champion. We have Baltimore and Atlanta on our schedule. I could easily see those two teams playing each other in February.

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#1 in rushing, #4 in scoring, #4 in total offense, #3 in TO difference (+7), #10 in run D
rgiii (#4 in rating, #5 in 20+ yard plays), trent, davis

#1 in most penatlies and penalty yards, $31 in pass D, #29 total D, #27 scoring D
cundiff, paul

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I like the post-game reaction threads a lot right now (definitely more after a win!), because there are a lot of great observations made. It's stuff I don't "see" until I watch the replay.

Any word on A. Robinson or B. Merriweather? That pre-game vid is some scary stuff, but wtf whoever was wandering with his head down has picked up Trent and Davis' old habit!

I finally figured out who Garcon really reminds me of. Not Boldin (who is far better than Garcon will be, but a different type of WR as well), because it's Hines Ward fo shiz. Hopefully, Garcon has a few seasons over 1000+ like Ward did, or a career best (season) of 1300+ and 12 tds.

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From now on I'm calling Alfred Morris (AM) "Good Morning". These defenses better wake the f**k up.