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[quote=Mechanix544;950173]I guess after watching him the first 4 games this season, i think your attempt at making a point falls miserably flat. Rg3, down one score with a quarter and a half left, and it doesnt matter, he would have lost it regardless? Bullshit. Had he not gotten injured, [B]he could have easily brought this team back for a win. No logic in ur comment,[/B] especially since he has at times slung this team over his shoulder almost on a weekly basis, and won the game, or at least willed the team and gave us a shot at the win.

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I know what I've seen from him. He's been great against the Bucs (1-3), the Saints (0-4), Did Ok/Good against the Rams (3-2) and Bengals (3-2). He has a lot of potential and is going to be a GREAT QB for us for years to come (so long as he stays healthy). But the Falcons are a great team (5-0) and good defense. RG3 can't play in the secondary so that is another factor of this game. When I watched him play today he didn't have any of those exciting plays. The Falcons did a great job containing RG3 and the CBs took away a lot of his passing windows. RG3 looked a tad off today, maybe it was the weather or something, but thats what good teams do is they take away great players from games. If I recall, RG3s only run of the day was when he got concussed. Oh and your probably going to bring up 'Well If Kirk could do...' well let me clue you in; They have no tape on Kirk and had no idea what to expect. Also I remember during the game that we went 1-9 on third down with RG3 in the game; if your not converting on 3rd down your not winning this game. Simple as that.

Also your comment is very hypocritical, because I'm just taking the loss side of it, while your taking the winning side of the argument. The fact of the matter is NEITHER of us know what would have really happened. So I can call BS to your 'argument' as well.

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[quote=Mattyk;950174]I have to agree. When he got hurt the game was still very much up for grabs. Who knows what could have happened.[/quote]

Oh I agree too. If it was only a one score game, I believe RGIII is going to perform well. It hurt having KC in there without any practice.

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wrong cult. You made the statement that no matter what transpired to RG3, we would have lost the game, period point blank.

My point is that we could not have known what would happen, but if recent history is any indicator of possible outcomes, then my statement is that it would have been very reasonable to assume RG3 had plenty of time, talent and opportunity to win the game. A player of his caliber can very well make a difference in that situation, and it seems that you would dismiss everything he has done over the course of the first quarter of the season, and chalk it up to him performing well against poor defenses and the like. Your statement is ridiculous, but if you would like to keep arguing it, go right ahead. Fact is RG3 is a playmaker, and him leaving the game definitely hindered the team, as well as our chances of coming out of the game with a W, which was WELL WITHIN REACH, no matter how you would spin it.

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[quote=SmootSmack;950138]I think we should prepare ourselves for the very real possibility that we won't see Orakpo, maybe ever again in a Redskins uniform. But that's another thread for another day.

I personally think we really miss Carriker more[/quote]

This team isn't in the position to let go of good football players. I hope you're wrong.

[QUOTE=skinsfan69;950182]This team isn't in the position to let go of good football players. I hope you're wrong.[/QUOTE]

is there some information that we don't know about concerning orakpo? Ot is he just going to be too expensive?

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I'd trade rak for a 2nd rder

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And were 0-9 in our last 9 home games,unfathomable
So much for home field advantage,we dont have it

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No team would give a 1st rounder for Orakpo, too worried about his health.

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I'm a bit suprised that the D-line isn't able to get any pressure. You would imagine that Stephen Bowen, Colefield and Kerrigan are all above average, right?

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Just got to watch the game, and am thankful for DVR because that was excruciating and "regular speed" would have killed me lol. The Falcons played their worst three quarters of football in the last three seasons, and then finally started to look like themselves in the 4th quarter. Up to that point Ryan was totally off his game. But you knew he'd get his head straight at some point and we'd lose (regardless of RG3's injury).

Once again we we're soundly outcoached in all phases of the game. The league has completely got Kyle's number unless he puts the game in RG3's hands.

After five games there are three resounding facts that any honest, intelligent observer has to make:

1) This defense is garbage compared to the one Mike and Bruce inherited.

2) Our best downfield targets are guys Mike and Bruce inherited. As I've said since the end of last season, Fred Davis is our best target and Moss second, though the way Kyle and maybe RG3 as a consequence force the ball toward other WRs, namely Garcon, our best WR isn't getting much work. Garcon just isn't very good.

3) And most importantly, the Skins are still far and away the worst team in the division.

I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but it has gotten almost ridiculous to come here (I won't even go in to ES) and read posts defending the Shanahans, or anything about the current regime. These guys (not the players) are losers, in every sense of the word.

We have RG3, but to save him we've got to get a real coaching staff and FO in place.

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[quote=Mechanix544;950180]wrong cult. You made the statement that no matter what transpired to RG3, we would have lost the game, period point blank.

My point is that we could not have known what would happen, but if recent history is any indicator of possible outcomes, then my statement is that it would have been very reasonable to assume RG3 had plenty of time, talent and opportunity to win the game. A player of his caliber can very well make a difference in that situation, and it seems that you would dismiss everything he has done over the course of the first quarter of the season, and chalk it up to him performing well against poor defenses and the like. Your statement is ridiculous, but if you would like to keep arguing it, go right ahead. Fact is RG3 is a playmaker, and him leaving the game definitely hindered the team, as well as our chances of coming out of the game with a W, which was WELL WITHIN REACH, no matter how you would spin it.[/quote]

Coulda, shoulda, woulda; If, If, If. We lost to a great team, I'm not upset. Our QB is expected to play next week, according to reports.

When you watch a game, do you ever have a feel for the game like "I don't see this team winning" or "Theres no way the other team is coming back we got this" or "I don't see us winning"? I had that feeling today when I was watching the Broncos game, our game, our game against the rams, watching the Bears beat up the cowboys, to name a few recent games. I just felt like once RG3 got hurt it just solidified the fact that we weren't going to win the game, and thats why I said with him in there, we probably wouldn't have won from what I saw for 3 quarters (yes, I'll give it to you that he plays his best in the 4th quarter) from our team, Atlanta had a plan and did it well. This is a done subject. On to Minnesota, whom I think we'll beat IF RG3s playing.

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[quote=The Goat;950194]Just got to watch the game, and am thankful for DVR because that was excruciating and "regular speed" would have killed me lol. The Falcons played their worst three quarters of football in the last three seasons, and then finally started to look like themselves in the 4th quarter. Up to that point Ryan was totally off his game. But you knew he'd get his head straight at some point and we'd lose (regardless of RG3's injury).

Once again we we're soundly outcoached in all phases of the game. The league has completely got Kyle's number unless he puts the game in RG3's hands.

After five games there are three resounding facts that any honest, intelligent observer has to make:

1) This defense is garbage compared to the one Mike and Bruce inherited.

2) Our best downfield targets are guys Mike and Bruce inherited. As I've said since the end of last season, Fred Davis is our best target and Moss second, though the way Kyle and maybe RG3 as a consequence force the ball toward other WRs, namely Garcon, our best WR isn't getting much work. Garcon just isn't very good.

3) And most importantly, the Skins are still far and away the worst team in the division.

I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but it has gotten almost ridiculous to come here (I won't even go in to ES) and read posts defending the Shanahans, or anything about the current regime. These guys (not the players) are losers, in every sense of the word.

We have RG3, but to save him we've got to get a real coaching staff and FO in place.[/quote]

I like how you get all upset when "the Shanahan apologists, especially a mod" [I]belittle[/I] someone's opinion yet you seem to have no issue saying that whoever disagrees with you is basically not intelligent

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I was at the game and it was very close until RG3 got hurt. I think that event deflated the team.

I really hope Shanny cuts Cundiff and signs Rackers plus Merriman. We need someone on the front 7 to command attention and free Kerrigan to make plays. He can be in a rotation with Jackson and Wilson.

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Shanahan is not as good as people think. I think he needs replacing, but after this season of course. But that being said, he has done some good, namely RG3, Kerrigan, AlMo and Bowen, along with giving Perry Riley a shot to become a great player, which I believe he will be, and soon. But it just seems that Mike doesn't surround himself with the type of staff that is solid. I have said this before, but the game might have passed him by a bit, because in 14 calander years, I believe that an NFL head coach with his "history" should have had more than 1 playoff win. The defense is offensive, but there is hope with RG3. Its funny that the one game he quits using him as a second running back is the game he gets the shit knocked out of him, and gets knocked out of the game. That lad needs to know the situation, and understand that the extra two yards he got on that scramble was not worth that hit. Especially when you are trying to get an extra few yards for billy cundiff, who is gonna fvck it up no matter where the ball is on the field, 25 yards away or 55.

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I don't know why everyone is hating on Shanahan.

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[quote=Bushead;950204]I don't know why everyone is hating on Shanahan.[/quote]

Because we lost and damnit, someone needs to be held responsible.

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I blame Justin Snow

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If only they had the offseason to get into a groove together. :doh:

Damn Cundiff is full of excuses.

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Some of you guys are great sometimes. Honestly the D did fairly well at times today and gave the offense a chance to win. RG III could very well have won this game.

The defense now has three touchdowns this year. This team can win now if it would stay healthy.

Why are guys now saying Garçon sucks when after the Saints game he was the next big thing? Fellas this team is very young and will be adding more youth next year. When Shanny said this deal would take five years well.. It's going to take five years. Adding youth and developing the talent. Doesn't happen overnight.

I will say this one more time as it pertains to the Falcons they won against playing our fourth round rookie in crunch time.
Till then we had the game under control.

BTW Morris continues to impress the hell out of me, and Grant after he shakes off some rust will be a nice spell back for AM.

so I got home watched a bit and cundiff is just awful, wtf man?? Griff needs to learn how to throw the ball away, Morris looks really good, oline did a OK job , Wrs still aren't doing much, defense did a solid job. Kerrigan is amazing, Jenkins looked good.

Pretty much I think we win with griff in the 4 quarter but shit happens. This team isn't a playoff team anyway and Atlanta is just better. I still see 7-8 wins. As for some who have asked if Mike is going to be on the hot seat? I still think he's here one more year for sure.

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[quote=The Goat;950194]Just got to watch the game, and am thankful for DVR [B]because that was excruciating and "regular speed" would have killed me lol. The Falcons played their worst three quarters of football in the last three seasons, and then finally started to look like themselves in the 4th quarter. Up to that point Ryan was totally off his game. But you knew he'd get his head straight at some point and we'd lose (regardless of RG3's injury).

Once again we we're soundly outcoached in all phases of the game. The league has completely got Kyle's number unless he puts the game in RG3's hands.

After five games there are three resounding facts that any honest, intelligent observer has to make:

1) This defense is garbage compared to the one Mike and Bruce inherited.

2) Our best downfield targets are guys Mike and Bruce inherited. As I've said since the end of last season, Fred Davis is our best target and Moss second, though the way Kyle and maybe RG3 as a consequence force the ball toward other WRs, namely Garcon, our best WR isn't getting much work. Garcon just isn't very good.

3) And most importantly, the Skins are still far and away the worst team in the division.

I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but it has gotten almost ridiculous to come here (I won't even go in to ES) and read posts defending the Shanahans, or anything about the current regime. These guys (not the players) are losers, in every sense of the word.

We have RG3, but to save him we've got to get a real coaching staff and FO in place.[/B][/quote]

Just read your qoute, and I am thankful I wont have to again. I basically DIDN'T highlight everything I agree with you on it.

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If the skins fire Shanahan, the guy they should hire is Greg Roman the OC for the 49ers.

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It wasn't our defense stopping anyone.. It was Matt Ryan playing bad guys.

80% of the Warpath predicted us to lose this week, and then write paragraphs of how the world is crumbling, and our coaching staff sucks, our Dline is weak, we are 0-5, we have a QB that runs to much, but now he doesnt run enough, I love kit kats, Garcon can't get open, Fred Davis is overrated, Morris is a scheme style runner only, Danny Smith missed 5 FG's this year, we need to CUT GANO NOW, and we need to CUT CUNDIFF NOW AND RESIGN GANO! Skins are the worse team ever, but we should win every game, and i predict a 8-8 season, but WHY ARE WE WINNING GAMES!? SUCK FOR LUCK 2! So glad we got Griffin because he's a MVP, and why WASTE A 6TH ROUND DRAFT PICK ON A RB FROM FA!?, Morris for RotY!

That's basically what it's like reading the Warpath on a daily basis. I wish there was a ignore option because then I would actually be able to have realistic conversations with a select few that are here..Smoot, Tripp, etc..

Oh, and everyone has Kyle's number on offense. It's the main reason why we score 30 points a game. Kyle doesn't even call plays. What really happens on scoring drives is RG3 writes plays in Polumbus's helmet with a sharpie since it's the only thing Polumbus is good for. Obviously, he doesn't block!!!

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[quote=Bucket;950226]It wasn't our defense stopping anyone.. It was Matt Ryan playing bad guys.

80% of the Warpath predicted us to lose this week, and then write paragraphs of how the world is crumbling, and our coaching staff sucks, our Dline is weak, we are 0-5, we have a QB that runs to much, but now he doesnt run enough, I love kit kats, Garcon can't get open, Fred Davis is overrated, Morris is a scheme style runner only, Danny Smith missed 5 FG's this year, we need to CUT GANO NOW, and we need to CUT CUNDIFF NOW AND RESIGN GANO! Skins are the worse team ever, but we should win every game, and i predict a 8-8 season, but WHY ARE WE WINNING GAMES!? SUCK FOR LUCK 2! So glad we got Griffin because he's a MVP, and why WASTE A 6TH ROUND DRAFT PICK ON A RB FROM FA!?, Morris for RotY!

That's basically what it's like reading the Warpath on a daily basis. I wish there was a ignore option because then I would actually be able to have realistic conversations with a select few that are here..Smoot, Tripp, etc..

Oh, and everyone has Kyle's number on offense. It's the main reason why we score 30 points a game. Kyle doesn't even call plays. What really happens on scoring drives is RG3 writes plays in Polumbus's helmet with a sharpie since it's the only thing Polumbus is good for. Obviously, he doesn't block!!![/quote]

lol post of the day

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;950225]If the skins fire Shanahan, the guy they should hire is Greg Roman the OC for the 49ers.[/quote]

Shanahan isn't going anywhere. Just because a few fans think they know what's going on in the FO doesn't mean that it's going to happen. The same FO that makes mistakes also..

- Brought in TW
- Brought in Morris
- Got RG3
- Got Kerrigan
- Resigned Fletcher


and the list goes on.... In a perfect world we would win every game, and the Redskins would win the Super Bowl every day.

[QUOTE=Mattyk;950229]lol post of the day[/QUOTE]

I agree!

KCT - "No Matter Where You Go, There You Are!"

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[quote=Bucket;950226]It wasn't our defense stopping anyone.. It was Matt Ryan playing bad guys.

80% of the Warpath predicted us to lose this week, and then write paragraphs of how the world is crumbling, and our coaching staff sucks, our Dline is weak, we are 0-5, we have a QB that runs to much, but now he doesnt run enough, I love kit kats, Garcon can't get open, Fred Davis is overrated, Morris is a scheme style runner only, Danny Smith missed 5 FG's this year, we need to CUT GANO NOW, and we need to CUT CUNDIFF NOW AND RESIGN GANO! Skins are the worse team ever, but we should win every game, and i predict a 8-8 season, but WHY ARE WE WINNING GAMES!? SUCK FOR LUCK 2! So glad we got Griffin because he's a MVP, and why WASTE A 6TH ROUND DRAFT PICK ON A RB FROM FA!?, Morris for RotY!

That's basically what it's like reading the Warpath on a daily basis. I wish there was a ignore option because then I would actually be able to have realistic conversations with a select few that are here..Smoot, Tripp, etc..

Oh, and everyone has Kyle's number on offense. It's the main reason why we score 30 points a game. Kyle doesn't even call plays. What really happens on scoring drives is RG3 writes plays in Polumbus's helmet with a sharpie since it's the only thing Polumbus is good for. Obviously, he doesn't block!!![/quote]

Great post. Didn't score 30 today ....no offense i mean im just saying.

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[quote=Bucket;950226]It wasn't our defense stopping anyone.. It was Matt Ryan playing bad guys.

80% of the Warpath predicted us to lose this week, and then write paragraphs of how the world is crumbling, and our coaching staff sucks, our Dline is weak, we are 0-5, we have a QB that runs to much, but now he doesnt run enough, I love kit kats, Garcon can't get open, Fred Davis is overrated, Morris is a scheme style runner only, Danny Smith missed 5 FG's this year, we need to CUT GANO NOW, and we need to CUT CUNDIFF NOW AND RESIGN GANO! Skins are the worse team ever, but we should win every game, and i predict a 8-8 season, but WHY ARE WE WINNING GAMES!? SUCK FOR LUCK 2! So glad we got Griffin because he's a MVP, and why WASTE A 6TH ROUND DRAFT PICK ON A RB FROM FA!?, Morris for RotY!

That's basically what it's like reading the Warpath on a daily basis. I wish there was a ignore option because then I would actually be able to have realistic conversations with a select few that are here..Smoot, Tripp, etc..

Oh, and everyone has Kyle's number on offense. It's the main reason why we score 30 points a game. Kyle doesn't even call plays. What really happens on scoring drives is RG3 writes plays in Polumbus's helmet with a sharpie since it's the only thing Polumbus is good for. Obviously, he doesn't block!!![/quote]

Brilliant...and you can ignore people

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[quote=CrustyRedskin;950232]Great post. Didn't score 30 today ....no offense i mean im just saying.[/quote]

Yeah, offense was totally out of sync today. I didn't argue the play calling, but you could tell by just watching RG3 throwing behind WR's and our team dropping balls. Only person that was on point was the Oline and Morris. I heard Morris was on the field before anyone else today getting his feet ready. It really showed.. He's hopefully going to be the franchise guy because he's explosive.

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[quote=SmootSmack;950233]Brilliant...and you can ignore people[/quote]

I actually thought to myself, I should check for myself before posting that. I found that now. Thanks though!

Doesn't you weekly rundown of the Redskins games come back this week?

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[quote=Bucket;950240]I actually thought to myself, I should check for myself before posting that. I found that now. Thanks though!

Doesn't you weekly rundown of the Redskins games come back this week?[/quote]

Yeah I suppose so. Eh, maybe next week

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Will RGIII learn from this?

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[quote=RGIII;950243]Will RGIII learn from this?[/quote]

He's a smart kid.

What do you think?

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[quote=Mattyk;950245]He's a smart kid.

What do you think?[/quote]

It's not a matter of intelligence. It's controlling the impulse.

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Im just waiting for more info.on his status? We might see Cousins next week vs Minnesota ... and uf bob needs a week... then so be it, yet I'd start rex but... looking out for an update hope hes ok

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[quote=skinsfaninok;950217]so I got home watched a bit and cundiff is just awful, wtf man?? Griff needs to learn how to throw the ball away, Morris looks really good, oline did a OK job , Wrs still aren't doing much, defense did a solid job. Kerrigan is amazing, Jenkins looked good.

Pretty much[B] I think we win with griff in the 4 quarter [/B]but shit happens. [B]This team isn't a playoff team[/B] anyway and Atlanta is just better. I still see 7-8 wins. As for some who have asked if Mike is going to be on the hot seat? I still think he's here one more year for sure.[/quote]

I agree with you on the first highlight and because I have that attitude about Griff and belief we could have won again today. I would say that this could be a playoff team with him and the win today. The NFC East leader is 3-2 and we are still one game out at 2-3. Our division has a really tough schedule this year and the way that all four teams play so inconsistently you never know what could happen even still. That is the fan in me but hey that is what we are right? :)

This team most likely will not make the playoffs this year, but we are so young and just really getting started as a complete unit. More youth coming in next year and a few FAs coming and going I am sure. We have a bright future here. The Skins are fun to watch again especially being able to carry that attitude about what will come and chalk all this up to a young team gaining experience. We cant get it all in one year especially getting hammered with the cap penalty.

Good things are coming to DC soon. Maybe as soon as next year. Who knows but we are gaining talent here, and not just guys that we only want which has been the case with our starters and depth in years past.

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[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;950215]Why are guys now saying Garçon sucks when after the Saints game he was the next big thing? Fellas this team is very young and will be adding more youth next year. When Shanny said this deal would take five years well.. It's going to take five years. Adding youth and developing the talent. Doesn't happen overnight. [/quote]

I don't recall anybody saying Garcon sucks. The only thing that I have said and others have said is that he didn't have a good game.

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Damn. RGIII lost this game today. Sorry guys. Just really bummed about how this went down.

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We forever play UP ....and DOWN... to our competition.. on to the next one hope we win next week

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[quote=SmootSmack;950233]Brilliant...and you can ignore people[/quote]

It's actually more fun to sit back and laugh at them.