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[quote=JoeRedskin;951284](1) I did read your original post - did you? The specific question within it was directed "to those of you who had/thought you had concussions" and asked for descriptions by those people of their symptoms. In the post, before receiving responses to your, apparently, rhetorical question, you concluded that "with a real concussion you're not going to be able to do much".

I have never had a concussion so I could not address your specific question and was not attempting to do so. Rather, your conclusions as to the diagnosis and post trauma symptoms of a "real concussion" appeared blatantly wrong to me (i.e. unless you are incapacitated for some significant length of time - "a few days" by your example - it is not a real concussion). Further, your conclusions appeared to be predicated on the erroneous assumption that concussions do not vary greatly in severity or, alternatively, that there is no such thing as a "mild" concussion. These conclusions appeared based on either (a) your own medical training and experience; or (b) the statement from your doctor. I focused on your doctor's statement rather than the inherent arrogance necessary to reach such conclusions based on your own medical knowledge.

(2) Given that your doctor's statement appeared blatantly wrong even to a layman like me, I was curious and googled "concussions classification". As a result, I got all sorts of scales/classifications for judging "mild" v. "severe" concussions with descriptions of their short term and long term effects and addressing both "the risk of further trauma (as in shots to the head) after a concussion" [I]and[/I] "the long term effects different for severe vs "mild" concussions". I simply did not post them all b/c (a) it's easy enough for you to do the google research all on your own; and (b) it was irrelevant to the point I was asserting.

[I]My point[/I], which clearly escaped you, was simply that your doctor's assertion that all concussions present an equal short term risk is a broad over-generalization and, [I]for the point you asserted[/I], wrong. "Real concussions" come in a variety of levels and a person who "take[s] a shot to the head and feel[s] a little dazed" may very well be concussed. As a quick google search will tell you, such an individual requires different treatment and recovery time than one who has "several days of nauseau, fogginess and generally not feeling like [their] feet were under [them]". Diagnosing the trauma and determing the best treatment, however, is probably best left to doctors. Just not yours apparently.

(3) I never said your doctor "lied to you". I just asserted his statement was wrong and blatantly so such that it would make me doubt his credentials and skill.

Alles klar, herr Kommisar?[/quote]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin
Clearly you are not intelligent enough to stay out of the vortex or you would known Garçon was a bust before we signed him and that, because of the need for speed at the WR position, Gaffney was a much better fit because he once fished and so was familiar with Fisher who should turn the Rams into a winner in two years even before he was hired due to the powerhouses he played as a safety for the Houston Oilers while playing on a sprained ankle because he wasn't a wimp but Fisher couldn't beat Gruden when Gruden was coaching the Raiders but was also once a cook at Hooter's so he didn't wait tables and would never have been called a Garçon.

So obviously Shananhan should be fired.



-You do understand, JoeRedskin, that this isn't really a courtroom setting, as it seems like most of your posts are geared toward arguing specific points, disagreeing with other people, and then of course going through the talking points of why they are intelectually inferior and ultimately incorrect. Sometimes its a good thing, sometimes its a chore to read through some of your statements.

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[quote=Mechanix544;951351]-You do understand, JoeRedskin, that this isn't really a courtroom setting, as it seems like most of your posts are geared toward arguing specific points, disagreeing with other people, and then of course going through the talking points of why they are intelectually inferior and ultimately incorrect. Sometimes its a good thing, sometimes its a chore to read through some of your statements.[/quote]

It's not courtroom setting??? Let me go through some talking points to discuss why you are ultimately incorrect and intellectually inferior.

My excuse for the long post was that I was suffering from early morning insomnia and needed something to do at 6:30 a.m. If reading my stuff is a chore, ehhh. it's who I am ... and yeah, I probably am a disagreeable old sot.

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[quote=SCRedskinsFan;951336]Since I agree with all of your arguments, let me correct your closing statement:

Herr would always be capitalized, and Kommissar needs another "s".

Alles klar?[/quote]

Danke für die Korrektur

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[quote=JoeRedskin;951356]Danke für die Korrektur[/quote]bitte schön

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[quote=Skinzman;951337]From someone who has worked in the construction industry for plenty of his life. From someone who knows people first hand that have destroyed their bodies building houses. From someone who has desperately needed surgery but never had it because months off from work means months off from eating.

Guess what... If you knew my or my friends problems, would you throw your kids out on the streets and say houses are bad because the people building them are hurting themselves? and not making millions per year to do so.

Are you honestly going to force being homeless on people because its bad that someone like me has a messed up shoulder and back for life, all from building you a place to live? Or does you having a place to live all of a sudden mean im worthless among the grand picture and my daughter not having a father is perfectly fine for you? Who cares if I destroy myself so you can be comfortable... Right?

As cold as this is going to sound. No one is required to play football. That doesnt mean treat them like animals, but it does mean they have to actually play the game at some point to get paid. Everyone of them knows the problems later in life. Im sure most of them already know of some of those problems they could have destroying their body at a fraction of the pay as well in construction or some other industry, ask anyone who used to work with Asbestos years ago.

So when you kick your kids to the streets to fend for themselves because living indoors causes your empathy meter to jump through the roof, then complain about the NFL. Until then, accept that people like me, in an attempt to feed and house our own families, have destroyed our bodies for your own personal pleasure. The same thing that you are claiming we shouldnt do. After all, our families being fed arent good enough reasons apparently to make money for, according to you.

Moral of the story: A lot of people damage themselves in every day life. They do it for money, fame, whatever reason. I would love every occupation to have zero negative health effects, but that isnt reasonable to expect. What can be done is to try and minimize that damage, but other than that...

Bleeding heart yourself about football all day long, just dont forget that a lot of what you use in every day life required blood sweat and tears to bring to your house for your comfort. By the way, cell phone towers are really tall. People have fallen from them setting up and maintaining cell phone towers. You support giving up cell phone use? After all, those towers need constant maintenance, if we use cell phones. We force a job into society. Which is climbing a thousand feet in the sky. And people will fall and die. You against cell phones now? I could be wrong but falling a thousand feet to your death is a lot worse than getting a concussion. And you get paid a lot less to fall to your death than you do to get a concussion in the NFL. I would rather risk concussions in the NFL for 100 times the pay if you really want the truth. Im sure all of you do as well.

Sounds cold, but reality a lot of times is. Of course all of you already know the cold reality of football players. Yet where will you be on Sunday? Rooting on RG3. If you are against RG3 playing... dont watch. If you are against people hurting themselves for your pleasure. Dont watch football, destroy your house and become homeless, and toss your cell phone in the trash... Among multiple other things.

With my body the way it is as someone who is only in his forties and knowing the dangers of the NFL. I would change out my pay and damage done to my body for the pay and damage from the NFL in a second...[/quote]


Two different animals. Brain injury and sore muscles are two different pies. RG3 isn't going to lose his job if he doesn't play because of a concussion. Let's get that straight right off the bat. I don't mean to sound arrogant if I do but that is a fact for sure. Lots of teams would take him and want him if he did not play. if he is careful with a brain injury he can play longer and make a lot more money than a short time payday. A hip flexor or stinger are something you can play thru. A brain injury not so easy. Aches and pains are one thing a brain injury is a total different thing. I watch to see them or hope they win. They chose this career and they get paid lots of money. I would do also if I could but if RG3 plays thats his decision. Why would I not watch? That is a silly solution for wanting someone to take it easy for a week. Let's be real instead of going down some don't watch if you do not like it tangeant that is just silly. I think you have missed the point entirely. His injury isn't a pulled groin.

Tell Dale Earnhardt Jr. that argument if you feel so strongly about it. Although the scenario is a bit different and others could be hurt as well I guarantee Dale knows that he should take it easy instead of risking further injury and will still have a job although he doesn't race now or next week. He is sitting out the next few races because of guess what? A concussion. He wants to race long term by sitting out now. Same as RG3 if he wanted could sit out now to play long term which means more money. Your argument says that he wouldn't make more money because of not playing now. Just not true. Eventually it's his decision. But maybe it shouldn't be.

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Are the Vikings bringing out the German in us?

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[quote=Sonny9TD;951362]Two different animals. Brain injury and sore muscles are two different pies. RG3 isn't going to lose his job if he doesn't play because of a concussion. Let's get that straight right off the bat. I don't mean to sound arrogant if I do but that is a fact for sure. Lots of teams would take him and want him if he did not play. if he is careful with a brain injury he can play longer and make a lot more money than a short time payday. A hip flexor or stinger are something you can play thru. A brain injury not so easy. Aches and pains are one thing a brain injury is a total different thing. I watch to see them or hope they win. They chose this career and they get paid lots of money. I would do also if I could but if RG3 plays thats his decision. Why would I not watch? That is a silly solution for wanting someone to take it easy for a week. Let's be real instead of going down some don't watch if you do not like it tangeant that is just silly. I think you have missed the point entirely. His injury isn't a pulled groin.

Tell Dale Earnhardt Jr. that argument if you feel so strongly about it. Although the scenario is a bit different and others could be hurt as well I guarantee Dale knows that he should take it easy instead of risking further injury and will still have a job although he doesn't race now or next week. He is sitting out the next few races because of guess what? A concussion. He wants to race long term by sitting out now. Same as RG3 if he wanted could sit out now to play long term which means more money. Your argument says that he wouldn't make more money because of not playing now. Just not true. Eventually it's his decision. But maybe it shouldn't be.[/quote]

Part of the problem is you call injuries as sore muscles and blow them off since its not people you know. There is nothing sore about a muscle after working 20 years in construction or a similar profession that requires that type of work. These are people that can no longer function in jobs, and have trouble in life, due to debilitating injuries. People that live with sons and daughters because otherwise they would be homeless since they can no longer work to support themselves.

Where you talk about arrogance, Its an unconscious arrogance, so somewhat forgivable (Of society, not meaning your arrogance specifically). If that unknown guy falls from the cell phone tower, it sucks, but it ultimately doesnt affect you since you dont know them. That 45 year old who can no longer work, that spent his life working his fingers to the bone, that no one has to hear about except his family having to take care of them. However, Athletes on your favorite team, well, you know them. Not personally, but all the media exposure makes it seem like we do. We want to protect them like family.

My point still stands... Keep protecting Dale Earnhardt Jr and RG3, while calling those people that damaged their bodies to the same degree as having a sore muscle and otherwise are just being babies. You actually proved my point.

Btw, things happen in construction sites or other places that cause concussions. But let that cable guy miss an appointment window on Monday from a concussion over the weekend, and all of a sudden long term effects of concussions are less of a concern than rescheduling the cable guy.

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Maybe we should make a Concussion threads..

Man, I feel lucky today. I can just drop my medical insurance. I don't even need to go to the doctors. Next time I have an appointment, i'll just tell the doctor i'm going for a second opinion from the MD professionals at the Warpath.

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^^ lol

If you would like, I can talk to them for you go - I'll hit some talking points and discuss why they are ultimately incorrect and intellectually inferior to everyone on the WP.

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[quote=Skinzman;951372]Part of the problem is you call injuries as sore muscles and blow them off since its not people you know. There is nothing sore about a muscle after working 20 years in construction or a similar profession that requires that type of work. These are people that can no longer function in jobs, and have trouble in life, due to debilitating injuries. People that live with sons and daughters because otherwise they would be homeless since they can no longer work to support themselves.

Where you talk about arrogance, Its an unconscious arrogance, so somewhat forgivable (Of society, not meaning your arrogance specifically). If that unknown guy falls from the cell phone tower, it sucks, but it ultimately doesnt affect you since you dont know them. That 45 year old who can no longer work, that spent his life working his fingers to the bone, that no one has to hear about except his family having to take care of them. However, Athletes on your favorite team, well, you know them. Not personally, but all the media exposure makes it seem like we do. We want to protect them like family.

My point still stands... Keep protecting Dale Earnhardt Jr and RG3, while calling those people that damaged their bodies to the same degree as having a sore muscle and otherwise are just being babies. You actually proved my point.

Btw, things happen in construction sites or other places that cause concussions. But let that cable guy miss an appointment window on Monday from a concussion over the weekend, and all of a sudden long term effects of concussions are less of a concern than rescheduling the cable guy.[/quote]


I'm not talking about people who get hurt on the job or disabled etc. That is your theme. Mine was RG3 and concussions. You went way off point. What do those people have to do with RG3 not playing for a week to rest a brain injury? You lost me with all that you are talking about. You are probably right about what you're trying to say but its not about resting some after a concussion. So OK what ever your point is i'm sure its a good one and I hope everyone gets the help they need who are injured like everyone else should.

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[quote=Mattyk;951314]This is just beyond ridiculous.[/quote]


I'm enjoying the comedy myself. I think Madden should add in a "Medical Trainer" expansion pack to his football game. It seems he has the market for it.

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Could you imagine Shanahan having to explain that while RG3 was closely monitored all week by an independent neurologist, and despite the fact he passed all the independent testing, that he was going to go ahead and overrule the Dr.'s educated and informed opinion and keep him on the bench anyway?

Lunacy.

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[quote=Mattyk;951410]Could you imagine Shanahan having to explain that while RG3 was closely monitored all week by an independent neurologist, and despite the fact he passed all the independent testing, that he was going to go ahead and overrule the Dr.'s educated and informed opinion and keep him on the bench anyway?

Lunacy.[/quote]

I can imagine the response would be something like

"Another sign of arrogance on the part of Mike Shanahan. Doctors, who trained to do this, cleared RG3 to play. But because Shanahan's trying to prove that he can coach anyone (John Beck anyone? smh) and still win he sat RG3 down. Typical Mike Shanahan thinking of only what makes him look good."

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Im not a doctor and am ecstatic that RG-3 is playing this week(for obviously completely greedy reasons having to do with the redskins and my fantasy team). I understand the doctors cleared him to play, but that does not mean that it is ultimately the best thing for the athlete. There are plenty of studies done that show returning to soon can create problems down the road even after all of the follow up tests are done, passed, etc. I mean some of you guys are making it seem like nothing happened. The concussion that he suffered still puts him in a more vulnerable spot than someone who did not suffer one last week. It is not complete idiocy to think that sitting RG-3 for another week is at least a viable option.

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[quote=punch it in;951417] I understand the doctors cleared him to play, but that does not mean that it is ultimately the best thing for the athlete. [/quote]


Ultimately, the best thing for a athlete is to never play a contact sport like football. If you feel so strong about it, stop watching football.

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At this point a concussion would be less painful than this thread.

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[quote=Mattyk;951424]At this point a concussion would be less painful than this thread.[/quote]so, how 'bout that adrian peterson?

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[quote=NC_Skins;951421]Ultimately, the best thing for a athlete is to never play a contact sport like football. If you feel so strong about it, stop watching football.[/quote]

Wow -that sounds like some good ole ES stuff rite there.
Classic - never watch football - close the thread??? lol
All im saying is I am sure there was some thought about playing/not playing him this week as well there should be.
To dismiss the fact that he suffered a concussion because he is not as fast as a race car is crazy and over the top.

I never said I feel so strongly about anything Im just making some points. Did I say I dont think he should play? No. I said it is not an idiotic thought like you guys are making it out to be.

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[quote=punch it in;951417]Im not a doctor and am ecstatic that RG-3 is playing this week(for obviously completely greedy reasons having to do with the redskins and my fantasy team). I understand the doctors cleared him to play, but that does not mean that it is ultimately the best thing for the athlete. There are plenty of studies done that show returning to soon can create problems down the road even after all of the follow up tests are done, passed, etc. I mean some of you guys are making it seem like nothing happened. The concussion that he suffered still puts him in a more vulnerable spot than someone who did not suffer one last week. It is not complete idiocy to think that sitting RG-3 for another week is at least a viable option.[/quote]

I get that, but how long do you sit him out? What does sitting him out a week do? If you don't play him until the Giants game on the 21st and he gets a concussion then, would it be any better than playing him this weekend and he doesn't get one?

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i understand the better safe than sorry approach. with a brain injury, i get that point of view - like if we can't confirm on thursday that he will be ready to go on sunday, better sit him, give him some more time, and error on the side of caution.

but, that being said, griff is a smart man, i trust his trust in the examining doctors.

[QUOTE=SmootSmack;951429]I get that, but how long do you sit him out? What does sitting him out a week do? If you don't play him until the Giants game on the 21st and he gets a concussion then, would it be any better than playing him this weekend and he doesn't get one?[/QUOTE]

There is no rite answer to that. Its a judgement call. Again im not saying i would be for the cautious (which is not another word for stupid) and not play him but sure a week cant hurt. Yea i think the quicker the time frame between concussions absolutely definitely the worse.

edit: - he might not get one this week is obvious, but he is at more of a risk, where is in two weeks after more healing of the brain he would be closer to if not fully to where he was before this ever happened. It is not that complicated that I need to be a neurologist - brain, ankle, shoulder - whatever the body part, obviously the more time it has to heal the more back to normal and the more out of risk said body part will be vulnerable to another injury.

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Earlier in the week Accuscore actually had this game as a tie with both teams scoring 23.6 points now it shows 24.1 to 23.5, not sure what changed it.

and stealing from ESPN's intel page:
Minnesota's last 5 games
Opp Score
TEN(1-4) ........W 30-7
@DET(1-3)......W 20-13
SFO(4-1)........ W 24-13
@IND(2-2)...... L 20-23
JAC(1-4)........W 26-23 (OT)

Ours
Opp Score
ATL(5-0).........L 17-24
@TAM(1-3).......W 24-22
CIN(3-2).........L 31-38
@STL(3-2).......L 28-31
@NOR(1-4).......W 40-32

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I got concussed reading this thread i started about the game. Doctors have cleared me to post after this one immediately. Although the Warpath has me out 3-4 weeks.

I think some of the people here handled Deon Sanders turf toe, and Landrys ankle.

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[quote=los panda;951358]bitte schön[/quote]

Bottom line is - RG-3 wilst spiele fussball this weekend and I hope he doesnt bangen his noggin again.

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I think I'm suffering from a concussion watching this thread. Just now, Matty asked me which page we were on and I couldn't tell him.

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[quote=punch it in;951432]There is no rite answer to that. Its a judgement call. Again im not saying i would be for the cautious (which is not another word for stupid) and not play him but sure a week cant hurt. Yea i think the quicker the time frame between concussions absolutely definitely the worse.

edit: - he might not get one this week is obvious, but he is at more of a risk, where is in two weeks after more healing of the brain he would be closer to if not fully to where he was before this ever happened. It is not that complicated that I need to be a neurologist - brain, ankle, shoulder - whatever the body part, obviously the more time it has to heal the more back to normal and the more out of risk said body part will be vulnerable to another injury.

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Yeah but he's at more of a risk playing in two weeks, vs three; three weeks vs four, etc.

Anyway, he was fine in practice today so he'll probably play on Sunday. I'm actually more interested in seeing if they make Rex the #2 QB this weekend. Though I suspect they'll stick with Cousins

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[quote=Bucket;951436]I got concussed reading this thread i started about the game. Doctors have cleared me to post after this one immediately. Although the Warpath has me out 3-4 weeks.

I think some of the people here handled Deon Sanders turf toe, and Landrys ankle.[/quote]

You actually started it about the game and hoping RG-3 would play this weekend with a link to the article about his concussion. Did you think that was not going to lead to talk about his concussion?

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[quote=SmootSmack;951443]Yeah but he's at more of a risk playing in two weeks, vs three; three weeks vs four, etc.

Anyway, he was fine in practice today so he'll probably play on Sunday. I'm actually more interested in seeing if they make Rex the #2 QB this weekend. Though I suspect they'll stick with Cousins[/quote]i say roll w cousins. the more time he spends on the field, the more he can improve. the more time rex spends on the field, well, we know how that goes.

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[quote=SmootSmack;951414]I can imagine the response would be something like

"Another sign of arrogance on the part of Mike Shanahan. Doctors, who trained to do this, cleared RG3 to play. But because Shanahan's trying to prove that he can coach anyone (John Beck anyone? smh) and still win he sat RG3 down. Typical Mike Shanahan thinking of only what makes him look good."[/quote]

That literally made me laugh out load SS.

and sadly we all know this to be true..... [IMG]http://www.thewarpath.net/images/icons/icon14.gif[/IMG]

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[quote=SmootSmack;951443]Yeah but he's at more of a risk playing in two weeks, vs three; three weeks vs four, etc.

Anyway, he was fine in practice today so he'll probably play on Sunday. I'm actually more interested in seeing if they make Rex the #2 QB this weekend. Though I suspect they'll stick with Cousins[/quote]

I was going to ask who was getting more snaps this week Cousins or Rex - being up hear in Jersey it aint exactly front page news. Im hoping for Rex, just in case RG3 doesnt play. Did I just say that?

edit: if the season were over I would want Cousins on the field, but I believe rite now Rex would give us the better chance to win. Obviously knows the offense better than Cousins and has the experience.

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[quote=punch it in;951447]I was going to ask who was getting more snaps this week Cousins or Rex - being up hear in Jersey it aint exactly front page news. Im hoping for Rex, just in case RG3 doesnt play. Did I just say that?[/quote]oh no you didn't

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I did. I know. Im embarassed.

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all i can say is that if griff sits out, it better be because he's having adamantium bonded to his bones

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[quote=NC_Skins;951263]Then why play football? Running backs and line backers are basically in car crashes every play.


The thing about doctors is, they don't know everything. You'll find that some will give out bad advice or advice that is outdated. I work at a school of medicine so I can assure you on this. Hell, even my own doctor has given improper advice in terms of weight training vs cardio. My friend is a doctor and prescribes people to a 5 bite diet. I could go on and on... Also, this is why they normally send you to a specialist. Because its generally something they don't concentrate or continue educating on it.[/quote]

It's true, and I basically never go to the doctor. Went after the last concussion because a friend/physician assistant scared the crap out of me w/ the brain bleed risk.

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[quote=Meks;951283]I too will be nervous for RG3 this week... nervous to lose him... i watched sidney crosby come back.too early after a blow.to the head and suffer another and it took him MAD LONG to return amd still.ismt.back to 100% .... people are just worried, not trying to play "armchair neurologists " ...[/quote]

Ahhh words of wisdom...much admired.

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[quote=los panda;951445]i say roll w cousins. the more time he spends on the field, the more he can improve. the more time rex spends on the field, well, we know how that goes.[/quote]

Build up Cousins' trade value?

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[quote=The Goat;951476]Build up Cousins' trade value?[/quote]no, not what i was thinking, just give him some more regular season experience.

it may actually hurt his trade value if he slings it around like he did last week. very early in his career/not enough playing time to speculate on that, though.

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[quote=Meks;951283]I too will be nervous for RG3 this week... nervous to lose him... i watched sidney crosby come back.too early after a blow.to the head and suffer another and it took him MAD LONG to return amd still.ismt.back to 100% .... people are just worried, not trying to play "armchair neurologists " ...[/quote]

If he's given the green light to play, our worries shouldn't be any more significant than they would be on any Sunday.

My issue is with those convinced the team is doing the wrong thing by playing him. #1 he has be be cleared by an independent doctor, and #2 why would Shanahan be more qualified to make that decision vs. a doctor's opinion?

Maybe you're not playing armchair neuro, but there are some people that clearly are.

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[quote=Mattyk;951479]If he's given the green light to play, our worries shouldn't be any more significant than they would be on any Sunday.

My issue is with those convinced the team is doing the wrong thing by playing him. #1 he has be be cleared by an independent doctor, and #2 why would Shanahan be more qualified to make that decision vs. a doctor's opinion?

Maybe you're not playing armchair neuro, but there are some people that clearly are.[/quote]

Griff is not yet cleared for Gameday. He is only cleared to practice without contact. Where did you hear he was cleared to play?

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[quote=44ever;951489]Griff is not yet cleared for Gameday. He is only cleared to practice without contact. Where did you hear he was cleared to play?[/quote]

I didn't say he was cleared. I said if.