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[quote=saden1;962018]Makes me proud to be an American..[/quote]


We are going to need you to report that $500. Need all the help reducing our deficit. :cheeky-sm

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[quote=skinsfaninok;961986]Facebook has people all over saying they r moving to Canada. Go ahead lol[/quote]

The thing people don't understand is the President has minimal influence over the economy. They get all the blame when things go poorly and all the praise when things go well. Then again the fiscal cliff is a very real threat that the President has a hand in however most of the time the markets will do what they want.

Either way the social side of me is very happy. Obamas reelection insures appointment of more liberal justices to the supreme court and planned parenthood will continue to stand, and the chances of going to war are greatly reduced with a modern progressive.

The fiscal conservative in me though is worried. More EPA, more confusing regulations, higher taxes on my bosses, and plans to increase spending before reducing the deficit.

I'm hoping Obamacare works, definitely want it to work, but I still think it's overkill.

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[quote=Mattyk;961981]Karl Rove still in denial on FOX... hilarious[/quote]

[url=http://news.yahoo.com/karl-rove-vs-fox-news-053252384--abc-news-politics.html]Karl Rove vs. Fox News - Yahoo! News[/url]


Wonder if the Koch brothers have put out a hit on Rove....lol

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[quote=NC_Skins;962020]We are going to need you to report that $500. Need all the help reducing our deficit. :cheeky-sm[/quote]

I am alwas willing to sensibly help uncle sam....SS33 basically financed my campaign contributions to Obama with this winnings and I thank him for it.

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[quote=NC_Skins;962023][url=http://news.yahoo.com/karl-rove-vs-fox-news-053252384--abc-news-politics.html]Karl Rove vs. Fox News - Yahoo! News[/url]


Wonder if the Koch brothers have put out a hit on Rove....lol[/quote]

His snake oil formula has to be defended at all cost....too funy.

Awfully quiet from the other side here.

Also anyone who doubted nate silver should eat crow. That man was on point.

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Congrats saden. PM me your info and I'll square up with you later today.

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[quote=DynamiteRave;962007]Washington State legalized for recreational use as well.[/quote]

holy smokes

:Smoker:

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[quote=hooskins;962026]Awfully quiet from the other side here.

Also anyone who doubted nate silver should eat crow. That man was on point.[/quote]

Same as when you lose a football game.
The winners cheer and the losers dont say much.

The USA has changed a lot. Its not the same country I grew up in.
There are now more poeple riding in the wagon and less pulling it.
I feel kind of embarrased that its come to this.
:Flush:

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[quote=NC_Skins;962023][url=http://news.yahoo.com/karl-rove-vs-fox-news-053252384--abc-news-politics.html]Karl Rove vs. Fox News - Yahoo! News[/url]


Wonder if the Koch brothers have put out a hit on Rove....lol[/quote]

He's such a POS.

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[quote=BleedBurgundy;961894]I voted for McCain, as I felt he was a much better leader than a campaigner, and didn't feel Obama had the executive experience necessary. That said, I did it with serious reservations because of his horrendous VP choice... I'm in PA btw.

And to answer Firstdown's question re: how I feel about what Reid said, I'm against it. But the key difference is that Reid is giving pre-election rhetoric, whereas the GOP followed through on their obstructionist agenda. If Romney wins, and the Dems followed suit and obtusely blocked meaningful, reasonable legislation... I'll be very disappointed.[/quote]

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Ive felt that Obama and the dems created the partisanship by forcing the healthcare bill through. So while republicans have been using obstructionist tactics, that what they were elected to congress to do. Theyre merely representing their constituents. That said, more people obviously voted feeling the way you do, than feeling they way I do. I was really hoping for an Obama loss coupled with a Tim Kaine win, as that would have singled a comprise mentality to me. Instead things feel decidedly split. [/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Obama represents different things to different people. Regardless of reality, many (or most) view Obama as the face of an ideology thats championed by some and anguished by others. Hes hated as much as hes loved, which unfortunately leaves little room for compromise. He is going to be in a major uphill battle to change those perceptions and get government to work together.[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]In large part thats why i didnt want Obama to win. Congress didnt lose control, and no one thought they would, so to me Obama winning means 4 more years similar to the last 2. And unless we see some big turnarounds in the national debt, unemployment, and the economy i suspect we could see partisanship after the 2014 elections that make the last 2 years look like a honeymoon between two 18 year olds that just eloped. He has his work cut out for him, hopefully the 4 years of experience has will serve him well this go around. [/FONT][/COLOR]

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[quote=skinsfaninok;961986]Facebook has people all over saying they r moving to Canada. Go ahead lol[/quote]


I heard someone joke about that the other day on the radio. Apperently Canada is really hard to immigrate too. You have to take a physical to prove youre not unhealthy (maybe we should consider now?) and you also have to prove your economic worth. So a healthy guy with a business can move there but a fat kid who moved back in with his partents after graduating college because he cant find a job is even more out of luck.

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[quote=DynamiteRave;962008]Dream Act in Maryland, marriage equality and the casino all passed in Maryland.

Although I don't really have a feeling one way or another about the casino referendum, it feels great having voted in Maryland for Question 4 and Question 6.

So proud.[/quote]

Only good news for me in VA is the passage of the eminent domain admendment (although i dont think it went nearly far enough). Also my swing vote helped propell my girl Kristen Larson to my school board:


[B]4th District[/B]
Kristen N. Larson, a former board member of the state's first charter elementary school, emerged from the five-way race to fill the seat vacated by Adria Graham-Scott.
Larson was the top vote-getter from a field that included a former Richmond Public Schools superintendent and a communications specialist with extensive volunteer experience in city schools.
"I feel like the parents and the community in the 4th District has really gotten behind me," Larson said. "I appreciate all the support, and I'm looking forward to working with the rest of the newly elected School Board candidates to implement real change for the children of our city."

[URL="http://www2.timesdispatch.com/news/2012/nov/07/tdelex11-new-majority-will-lead-richmond-school-bo-ar-2342317/"][COLOR=#0066cc]http://www2.timesdispatch.com/news/2012/nov/07/tdelex11-new-majority-will-lead-richmond-school-bo-ar-2342317/[/COLOR][/URL]

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[quote=DynamiteRave;961985]I can't believe some of this crap I'm reading. Threatening to overthrow the government and losing faith in America.

Christ. Really?[/quote]

I have literally sworn off Facebook for the next couple of days thanks to this. I thought I'd wake up and it would be all good. Boy, was I wrong.

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[quote=Mattyk;961987]Meanwhile Colorado legalized marijuana for recreational use. Woot.[/quote]

LOL. Indeed. I don't know why, but the whole "illegal" thing has been what's kept my wife and I from ever trying it. Might have to go on a vacation, partake, then go to Casa Bonita!

[IMG]http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_BK_oX9wcu34/TD-TFKFApiI/AAAAAAAAAKQ/uwrgwTHkiVI/s1600/southpark.gif[/IMG]

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[quote=skinsfaninok;962004]Did Colorado legalize marijuana?[/quote]

and washington state. Interested to see if the Supreme Court will take up some cases so we can look at some things on a federal level. Then politically it will bring up a stronger look at the failed drug war.

The thing is medical marijuana is EXPENSIVE.

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;962055]I have literally sworn off Facebook for the next couple of days thanks to this. I thought I'd wake up and it would be all good. Boy, was I wrong.[/quote]


You should take this time to have fun with it. I trolled kids all last night up till 2am..lol Posting pics such as...

[IMG]http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/46566_274906659278970_1073227517_n.jpg[/IMG]


One dumb bitch went on this rage filled with obscenities about how anybody who voted for Obama is a communist and piece of shit that is ruining our country and defriend her. She got this as a response....

[YT]owzhYNcd4OM[/YT]

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[quote=skinsfaninok;961986]Facebook has people all over saying they r moving to Canada. Go ahead lol[/quote]

Yeah, that and Europe. It shows you how stupid the American voters really are, which is exactly why I said what I said in the other thread. So you are going to leave this country to avoid "socialism", but head off to another country who has a higher degree of socialism than we do and pay more taxes.



It boils down to it, they just don't like the black guy.

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[quote=NC_Skins;962058]You should take this time to have fun with it. I trolled kids all last night up till 2am..lol Posting pics such as...

[IMG]http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/46566_274906659278970_1073227517_n.jpg[/IMG]


One dumb bitch went on this rage filled with obscenities about how anybody who voted for Obama is a communist and piece of shit that is ruining our country and defriend her. She got this as a response....

[YT]owzhYNcd4OM[/YT][/quote]

The Cartman literally made me LOL. I might do it, but goddamn, I thought after the election this would be the end of it.

And you're right, particularly where I live it was the black guy versus the Mormon, and I'm sure it even chapped some conservative people's asses to vote for the Mormon because you can't cry religion really there either.

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I will never forgot this:


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They spent a billion dollars only to get fck again by The Organizer In Chief...I love it!

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[quote=nc_skins;962058]you should take this time to have fun with it. I trolled kids all last night up till 2am..lol posting pics such as...

[img]http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/46566_274906659278970_1073227517_n.jpg[/img]


one dumb bitch went on this rage filled with obscenities about how anybody who voted for obama is a communist and piece of shit that is ruining our country and defriend her. She got this as a response....

[yt]owzhyncd4om[/yt][/quote]


loool

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[quote=NC_Skins;962023][url=http://news.yahoo.com/karl-rove-vs-fox-news-053252384--abc-news-politics.html]Karl Rove vs. Fox News - Yahoo! News[/url]


Wonder if the Koch brothers have put out a hit on Rove....lol[/quote]

Karl Rove was easily the most comical part of election night for me. Right before the election he's explaining how the GOP can win Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Minnesota, and Ohio. Then one by one the states start getting called and Rove becomes desperate. Shortly after Ohio gets called and he's like "No no, wait these are Republican counties! Republicans will get like 80% of the remaining vote."

Sorry Karl the polls were right. The oversampling theory does not hold water.

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[quote=NC_Skins;962060]It boils down to it, they just don't like the black guy.[/quote]

I don't like NDAA, the Benghazi lies, his "I don't have all the information....but the police acted stupidly" ([I]Oh, you'd forgotten that?[/I]) pandering to a religious group by insisting that NASA have an outreach for them and a litany of other things.

But I'm racist because I don't like his politics or his process?

[IMG]http://images.wikia.com/theamazingworldofgumball/images/1/18/Jackie-chan-meme.png[/IMG]

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[quote=RedskinRat;962066]I don't like NDAA, the Benghazi lies, his "I don't have all the information....but the police acted stupidly" ([I]Oh, you'd forgotten that?[/I]) pandering to a religious group by insisting that NASA have an outreach for them and a litany of other things.

But I'm racist because I don't like his politics or his process?

[IMG]http://images.wikia.com/theamazingworldofgumball/images/1/18/Jackie-chan-meme.png[/IMG][/quote]

Yea man, you imply that someone is racist and its such a demonized word all you have to do is toss it out there as a generalization and you win all arguments.
So then anyone that says something on Facebook that you disagree with is a racist too.
Works like a charm!

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stock market is reacting appropriately to the election

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[quote=Chico23231;962070]stock market is reacting appropriately to the election[/quote]


Herd mentality...Great time to buy before it bounces back.

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[quote=saden1;962073]Heard mentality...[B]Great time to buy before it bounces back[/B].[/quote]

Heard mentality

Ill wait for a bottom. It not so much a buy or sell, its the message from the market.

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[quote=Chico23231;962076]Heard mentality

Ill wait for a bottom. It not so much a buy or sell, its the message from the market.[/quote]

There is no message, only automatic triggers set out of fear. It's up from 8K to 13K since Jan 2009 and that's a trend-line that should make people and investors feel good.

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[quote=Chico23231;962076]Heard mentality

Ill wait for a bottom. It not so much a buy or sell, its the message from the market.[/quote]
You might have a wait then.It's profit taking no more, no less.

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i can't believe ca voted yes on prop 30 and no on prop 37

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[quote=Dirtbag59;962065]Karl Rove was easily the most comical part of election night for me. Right before the election he's explaining how the GOP can win Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Minnesota, and Ohio. Then one by one the states start getting called and Rove becomes desperate. Shortly after Ohio gets called and he's like "No no, wait these are Republican counties! Republicans will get like 80% of the remaining vote."

Sorry Karl the polls were right. The oversampling theory does not hold water.[/quote]I happened to flip over to Fox News just to see their reaction right as Megyn Kelly set off on her long journey through the studio/office hallways to prove Rove wrong. [URL="http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/11/07/5-amazing-fox-news-freak-outs-karl-rove-megyn-kelly-bill-o-reilly-and-more.html"]It was pretty damn funny.[/URL]

[QUOTE=ArtMonkDrillz;962113]I happened to flip over to Fox News just to see their reaction right as Megyn Kelly set off on her long journey through the studio/office hallways to prove Rove wrong. [URL="http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/11/07/5-amazing-fox-news-freak-outs-karl-rove-megyn-kelly-bill-o-reilly-and-more.html"]It was pretty damn funny.[/URL][/QUOTE]

I watched a ton of fox news and happened to catch that, as well. It was hilarious. Daily Show is going to eat it up.

[QUOTE][quote]Awfully quiet from the other side here. <br />
<br />
Also anyone who doubted nate silver should eat crow. That man was on point.[/quote]<br />
<br />
Same as when you lose a football game.<br />
The winners cheer and the losers dont say much.<br />
<br />
The USA has changed a lot. Its not the same country I grew up in.<br />
There are now more poeple riding in the wagon and less pulling it.<br />
I feel kind of embarrased that its come to this.<br />
:Flush:[/QUOTE]

Hm I think that's the point the right is missing. The demographics and makeup of those riding and pulling the wagon have changed, until the GOP realizes that they will continue to fall behind.

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[quote=hooskins;962121]I watched a ton of fox news and happened to catch that, as well. It was hilarious. Daily Show is going to eat it up.[/quote]

Cant wait to hear the Colbert Report. He is gonna crush Karl Rove.

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Disgraceful:

[YT]NZZt3jPDvNQ[/YT]

We don't want stuff, we want equality and we want opportunity for all not just the people who have parents they can borrow money from. We want to focus on healing this country from a decade of war. We want to show the olive branches before the daggers to the rest of the world. We want equal pay for equal work. We want to help veterans reach their full potential when they come back home. We want to regulate bad people and business doing bad things. We want to move this country along to reach its full potential instead of focusing on the good ol' days which were good for some but not for all. We want to find decent and good solutions for undocumented immigrants not prescribe self-deportation.


This formula of further insulting and degrading minorities isn't going to help white conservative America overcome its presidential electoral predicament.

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[quote=hooskins;962122]Hm I think that's the point the right is missing. The demographics and makeup of those riding and pulling the wagon have changed, until the GOP realizes that they will continue to fall behind.[/quote]

The demographics dont matter. Its not about race.
Libs dont mind full wagons, but thats how bleeding hearts think.

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[quote=saden1;962128]Disgraceful:

[YT]NZZt3jPDvNQ[/YT]

We don't want stuff, we want equality and we want opportunity for all not just the people who have parents they can borrow money from. We want to focus on healing this country from a decade of war. We want to show the olive branches before the daggers to the rest of the world. We want equal pay for equal work. We want to help veterans reach their full potential when they come back home. We want to regulate bad people and business doing bad things. We want to move this country along to reach its full potential instead of focusing on the good ol' days which were good for some but not for all. We want to find decent and good solutions for undocumented immigrants not prescribe self-deportation.


This formula of further insulting and degrading minorities isn't going to help white conservative America overcome its presidential electoral predicament.[/quote]

As long as the GOP continues to proudly be the party of exclusion and serving primarily the interests of wealthy white males, they will continue to lose national elections. Until they strongly and publicly denounce and distance themselves from the far right fringe elements that poison their party with divisiveness and hatred, they will continue to lose national elections. There should be a strong condemnation for what happened last night on the campus of Ole Miss, (large group of students shouting racial epithets towards Pres. Obama and in general) but it will be ignored by the right.

What O'Reilly said is actually correct (except that the ones who voted for him want 'things and stuff'), even though his delivery wasn't the most welcoming. The days of the White establishment in the US are over. What he doesn't say is that shouldn't be considered a bad thing! The nation is evolving so embrace the evolution, learn to accept others and find common ground rather than find areas of difference.

We all want the same things. An opportunity to provide for our families, safe communities, quality schools and the freedom to practice whatever religion we choose. The rest is all BS for talking heads to discuss.

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[quote=hooskins;962026]Awfully quiet from the other side here.

Also anyone who doubted nate silver should eat crow. That man was on point.[/quote]

Not Quiet, we broke ground on our house today and I just got in front of a computer. Congrates to Obama. Enjoy the win.

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[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;962028]Congrats saden. PM me your info and I'll square up with you later today.[/quote]

You have made me whole.

Thank you.