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[quote=Gtothearry;977720]I need the division. I couldn't stand the thought of the Cowboys winning the East by beating the Skins.[/quote]

Agreed!

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Does anyone know if they have set the dates and times for the first round of the playoffs?

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It would be fine if we beat the cowboys in the playoffs

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[quote=firstdown;978456]Does anyone know if they have set the dates and times for the first round of the playoffs?[/quote]

Not til the playoff teams are all decided.

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[quote=Mattyk;978463]Not til the playoff teams are all decided.[/quote]

Thanks, I just remembered my daughters Birthday Party is on Sat the 5th at 3:00. I just have this feeling.

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[quote=Mattyk;977631]You were saying?[/quote]
Hmmmmm.....must have gone the way of Valleyranchgirl.
Come to think of it, Sandtrapjack been a little scarce as well.....

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I think this is whats gonna happen but i hope im wrong:

Redskins beat Eagles and then lose to Cowboys

Cowboys lose to Saints and then beat the Redskins

Giants win out and win the division

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[quote=44ever;977719]Ravens will be doing the smoking this week. Count on it!!!

Ravens 35
Giants 21[/quote]


I don't know, the Ravens offense looked inept last week. I just don't see them beating the Giants. They are really falling apart down the stretch.

As Jekyll/Hyde as the Giants are, they will probably smoke the Ravens this week.

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[quote=The Goat;977925]If Ray returns I could see it.[/quote]

I don't know about Ray. He was not playing all that well before the injury. He was getting put on his butt more often than usual. Don't get me wrong he is still very serviceable, but he is not the impact player he once was.

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[quote=firstdown;978456]Does anyone know if they have set the dates and times for the first round of the playoffs?[/quote]

This run seems like a playoff feel each week.


Whats the over/under Skins Vs Cowboys is flexed to 4:25?

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[quote=Chico23231;978484]This run seems like a playoff feel each week.


Whats the over/under Skins Vs Cowboys is flexed to 4:25?[/quote]

I got my fingers crossed its moved to 4:00. My daughters actual birthday is next Sunday the 30th and the wife wants do to something. Then she has a birthday party planned (kids party at a place that will not have a TV) for Saturday the 5th. I may be divorced by the 6th.

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[quote=KJHJ2;978481]I don't know about Ray. He was not playing all that well before the injury. He was getting put on his butt more often than usual. Don't get me wrong he is still very serviceable, but he is not the impact player he once was.[/quote]

What he does to make the other players surrounding him play harder is important enough.

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I just posted this on Facebook about the Redskins possible home playoff game:

[url=http://www.facebook.com/LeaderInSports/posts/510023782363655]Redskins fans: You... | Facebook[/url]

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Flexed to the NBC SNF

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[quote=tc2deuce;979578]Flexed to the NBC SNF[/quote]

Link or it didn't happen.

[QUOTE=mbedner3420;979579]Link or it didn't happen.[/QUOTE]

It's a given.

[QUOTE=Gtothearry;979580]It's a given.[/QUOTE]

No it's not, Fox has lost out the past two years on these games and aren't happy.

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We win, Giants and Dallas lose. And i feel like we gained nothing. Strange day.

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[quote=redskin37;979583]We win, Giants and Dallas lose. And i feel like we gained nothing. Strange day.[/quote]

Momentum my man

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Here are the playoff scenarios for us:

[B]4 Seed[/B]: W over Cowboys

Lose to the Cowboys, and have the following happen:

[B]5 Seed:[/B]
Forty-Niners beat the Seahawks, and
Packers beat the Vikings, and
Lions beat the Bears, and
Rams beat the Seahawks

[B]6 Seed:[/B]

[U]Possibility 1[/U]
Packers beat the Vikings, and
Lions beat the Bears

[U]Possibility 2[/U]
Forty-Niners beat the Seahawks, and
Packers beat the Vikings, and
Rams beat the Seahawks

[U]Possibility 3[/U]
Forty-Niners beat the Seahawks, and
Lions beat the Bears, and
Rams beat the Seahawks

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[quote=redskin37;979583]We win, Giants and Dallas lose. And i feel like we gained nothing. Strange day.[/quote]

Matty is right about momentum.

Also, should things come down to a wild card spot, we helped ourselves a lot today.

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Assuming that Schneed's wild card lists are correct, then our best bet is vikings and bears both losing next week. I don't see Seattle losing two times.

[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;979590]Assuming that Schneed's wild card lists are correct, then our best bet is vikings and bears both losing next week. I don't see Seattle losing two times.[/QUOTE]

Yes we r in for sure if bears lose to Detroit and Vikings lose to GB which both are a possibly.

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This has got 1979 revisited written all over it.Cowboys beat us 35-34 win division on tiebreakers and we go home,that game still haunts me to this day.It made Riggins sit out a yr.We need to win this frickin game,couldnt stand to go thru that again

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[quote=redskin37;979583]We win, Giants and Dallas lose. And i feel like we gained nothing. Strange day.[/quote]

We gained our 9th win. Given 6 weeks ago we were 3-6, with some asking where this team was head, that is big.

We gained a guaranteed winning record against our division, including a sweep over Philly. That's a thing.

Regardless of next week's outcome, we gained confidence for next year, since we will end winning 6 out of the last 7 at least.

Overall, today was about setting the plate for the future, and the team succeeded at that.

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If we lose against Dallas, it will be the most crushing loss in my sports-watching career. Seriously. I know it's just sports, but that shit will linger for a while for me if we lose.

Now, the key is: don't lose. :)

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I like our chances vs the boys, but I really really like our chances if Griff is himself next week. Hopefully we will not have to lean on him next week completely but I want him 100%, i didnt see that burst that he usually as today. I hope this week he will heal up.

[QUOTE=redskins5044;979582]No it's not, Fox has lost out the past two years on these games and aren't happy.[/QUOTE]

Wait and see.

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Cowboys will pile up a lot of yards. Hopefully we can make a few stops and get a turnover or two.

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;979595]If we lose against Dallas, it will be the most crushing loss in my sports-watching career. Seriously. I know it's just sports, but that shit will linger for a while for me if we lose.

Now, the key is: don't lose. :)[/quote]

Then for your sake I pray we don't lose.

The most crushing loss in my sports career was the Super Bowl against the Raiders. We were defending champions and a veritable juggernaut. We came so very close to being rare repeat champions. Instead Marcus Allen sent us home in tears.

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It worries me how the Cowboys have been making these come from behind moves in the 4th quarter of all these games. I'm used to them blowing the 4th quarter, not making up ground and winning them. Bothersome. We still going to kill it next week though!!!

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Help me out: If we lose to the Cowboys, why would they win the Nfc East? Head to Head would be even. NFC East Record would be even. We'd have the better NFC record? What are the tie breakers then?

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[quote=redsk1;979605]Help me out: If we lose to the Cowboys, why would they win the Nfc East? Head to Head would be even. NFC East Record would be even. We'd have the better NFC record? What are the tie breakers then?[/quote]NFC records would be even. But common opponents is the tiebreaker after head to head and division record.

Dallas is 8-4 vs common opponents, and we are 7-5.

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Answered my own question:

TO BREAK A TIE WITHIN A DIVISION

If, at the end of the regular season, two or more clubs in the same division finish with identical won-lost-tied percentages, the following steps will be taken until a champion is determined.

Two Clubs
1.Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games between the clubs).
2.Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division.
3.Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games.
4.Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
5.Strength of victory.
6.Strength of schedule.
7.Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
8.Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
9.Best net points in common games.
10.Best net points in all games.
11.Best net touchdowns in all games.
12.Coin toss

Sounds like Dallas has us in common games...Gotta win.

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[quote=redsk1;979605]Help me out: If we lose to the Cowboys, why would they win the Nfc East? Head to Head would be even. NFC East Record would be even. We'd have the better NFC record? What are the tie breakers then?[/quote]

[url=http://www.realredskins.com/rich-tandlers-real-redsk/2012/12/redskins-playoff-scenarios-best-way-is-win-and-in.html]Redskins playoff scenarios: Best way is win and in - Rich Tandler's Real Redskins[/url]

[quote][B]Redskins playoff scenarios: Best way is win and in

In response to multiple requests, here are the Redskins’ playoff scenarios.

NFC East[/B]

Yes, the Cowboys lost today and the Giants, as of this writing, seemed destined to lose to the Ravens. But the Redskins do not clinch the division today. And they can’t if they lose next week to the Cowboys.

The Redskins must beat Dallas next week to win the NFC East. Period.

If they beat Dallas they will win the division because of the best overall. If they lose to Dallas they will lose the tiebreaker to them. They will have split head to head and they both would have 4-2 division records. The next tiebreaker is best record in common games. The Cowboys have that tiebreaker.

Some believe that the tiebreaker after division record is conference record. It is not, check this link.

If the Giants do lose to the Ravens they can’t win the division. Even if they beat the Eagles next week and the Cowboys beat the Redskins, they are out of the three-way tiebreaker pool with their 3-3 division record.

[B]Wild card[/B]

If the Redskins do lose to the Cowboys next week, they could win a wild card but they would need some help.

Assuming that the Bears keep their substantial lead over the Cardinals, they would move to 9-6 along with the Vikings. Seattle is 9-5 and they play tonight against the 49ers.

The good news for the Redskins is that they would hold tiebreakers over all of those teams if they finish at 9-7. The bad news is that they need help if those teams are going to finish with nine wins.

So one team between the Vikings, Bears, and Seahawks can get to 10 wins and the Redskins can still make the playoffs. But if two do, a 9-7 Redskins team is out.

If the Redskins are going to go in as a wild card at 9-7, the Vikings and Bears both need to lose next Sunday or if the Seahawks drop their final two, either the Vikings or Bears would need to lose next Sunday.

That’s a lot of help that would be needed. The win and in is obviously the preferred scenario. [/quote]

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Eventually their magic has to run out (cowboys that is). They have had for 3 weeks miracle 4th quarter come from behind wins. Cincy had several chances to put it away. Steelers have a kickoff that might go the distance but they fumble, give up 7, turn the ball over. 14 points on saints.

The skins protect the ball, get a couple turnovers, I feel good about it.

[QUOTE=Bushead;979616]Eventually their magic has to run out (cowboys that is). They have had for 3 weeks miracle 4th quarter come from behind wins. Cincy had several chances to put it away. Steelers have a kickoff that might go the distance but they fumble, give up 7, turn the ball over. 14 points on saints.

The skins protect the ball, get a couple turnovers, I feel good about it.[/QUOTE]

Dallas is so beat up on defense and ware got hurt today also. Romo is on fire lately but I agree we control the clock and no TOs and we win by a score

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I'm going to go out on a limb and say the Seahawks will hold on to beat the 49ers. Here's our updated scenario, things are a lot simpler now because we can't catch the Seahawks if we lose next week.

[B]4 Seed:[/B] W over Cowboys

Lose to the Cowboys, and have the following happen:

[B]6 Seed:[/B]
Packers beat the Vikings, and
Lions beat the Bears

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Hopefully we get flexed just so we can have it all laid out for us before hand.

[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;979626]Dallas is so beat up on defense and ware got hurt today also. Romo is on fire lately but I agree we control the clock and no TOs and we win by a score[/QUOTE]

I am going to rest my hat on that in a playoff type of game loser go home, that Shanny can out coach Garrett for the win.