[QUOTE=Hog1;976470]DANG Dallas....that is soooo frustrating!
God mad?[/QUOTE]

Yea.....Close the roof because God isn't smiling!

Seattle rolling

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Wow....how bad did Eli and company screw the pooch?
LMAO!

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[quote=skinsfaninok;976482]Seattle rolling[/quote]

Seattle reminds me of us. They are just rolling, playing well with a rookie at the helm. Wish we had they're defense.

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[quote=GTripp0012;976474]So what if he is? Does it make what he's doing less remarkable?[/quote]

Depends on how we frame it. Is it a medical treatment or a peformance enhancer?

On one hand ACL tears are devastating and if HGH is an effective and safe treatment then why shouldn't it be a standard treatment for athletes? On the other hand if its a performance enhancer on par with the type of boost that steroids give to players then it's detestable.

Keep in mind the best soccer player in the world Lionel Messi took HGH as a kid to treat a growth disorder and is now a relatively normal height. No one laments him for using it, in the end it goes back to how you look at it. Assuming that AP used HGH to recover do we look at it as a legitimate medical treatment or a dirty performance enhancer? Personally I don't know enough about it to make a decision either way.

Again, disclaimer, this is all hypothetical.

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[quote=Dirtbag59;976496]Depends on how we frame it. Is it a medical treatment or a peformance enhancer?

On one hand ACL tears are devastating and if HGH is an effective and safe treatment then why shouldn't it be a standard treatment for athletes? On the other hand if its a performance enhancer on par with the type of boost that steroids give to players then it's detestable.

Keep in mind the best soccer player in the world Lionel Messi took HGH as a kid to treat a growth disorder and is now a relatively normal height. No one laments him for using it, in the end it goes back to how you look at it. Assuming that AP used HGH to recover do we look at it as a legitimate medical treatment or a dirty performance enhancer? Personally I don't know enough about it to make a decision either way.

Again, disclaimer, this is all hypothetical.[/quote]

Could say the same thing about Peyton Manning or any player that makes a comeback that seems unreasonable to believe. Unless there are any rumors out there we can assume that any player is using PED's. I'll give them all the benefit of the doubt until some one comes out with facts proving otherwise.

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We can clinch the division with a Dallas loss and giants lost and skins win next week!!!!! Dallas can lose today or next week

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[quote=donofriose;976503]Could say the same thing about Peyton Manning or any player that makes a comeback that seems unreasonable to believe. Unless there are any rumors out there we can assume that any player is using PED's. I'll give them all the benefit of the doubt until some one comes out with facts proving otherwise.[/quote]

Yes its possible but to me I'm seeing more red flags on AP coming back from an ACL terror to dominate at the games most physically demanding position. I mean we've seen a noticeable decrease in Manning's arm strength while AP is better then ever.

In the end it gives us three possibilities. Either ACL repairs have come a long way to the point where they now have the same effect as Tommy John surgery, AP Is a physical speciman that has a rare ability to recover from injuries faster then 99.9% of the human race, or he was using PED's. Most people up to this point have assumed the second option.

Either way the NFL's testing policy is a mess right now. On top of no testing for HGH players who use drugs like adderall are subject to the same punishment as players who use steroid.

If Adderall is a performance enhancer then I should be playing in the NFL right now as I took it from age 5 to 21.

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[quote=Dirtbag59;976459]I'm going to get flack for this but AP's recovery seems to good to be true. Going from a torn ACL to being withink striking distance of the all time single season rushing record? Theres a very cynical and cruel part of me that seriously wonders if he's taking HGH. I mean they don't test for it right now hence recent congressional hearings urging the league and the players union to start testing for it.

Please keep in mind though this is baseless speculation on my part in which case I partly blame Lance Armstrong.[/quote]

I've had similar thoughts as the world of sports in general has made us all cynical of various feats due to performance enhancers being so prevelant even among those whom we wouldn't have even remotely be associated with them.

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God damn -- Steelers defense is getting owned by Romo

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Am I just being sensitive or does it sound like commentators talk with an erection when they speak about the Cowboys? Seriously, I never, EVER hear commentators as excited as when the Cowboys do something.

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I must admit, I have never really understood the attraction of the Cowboys....
.....much like incest.

3 rushing td's for Wilson.

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[quote=Pigskins;976505]We can clinch the division ...[/quote]Those words are so sweet. Didn't think I'd hear them, after how the first few games this season went.

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Sorry Dez.......

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[quote=Hog1;976572]Sorry Dez.......[/quote]lol, he was just grappling with a steeler CB in the endzone, then has the nerve to act like only the cb was holding.

Well, Dallas controls their own destiny.

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Irritated by so many playoff scenarios. Someone give a breakdown and put it to rest.

Come on Pittsburgh.....shewwwwww! Why run out of bounds! My god!

**** you Pittsburgh.

No effin way. Steelers gonna get this n make a fg if they indeed try the kick.

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I hate Pittsburgh; When you want them to lose, they win; when you want them to win, they lose.

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If we take care of our business it won't matter what Dallas or NY does.

Well week 17 means something now.

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[quote=Gtothearry;976589]Well week 17 means something now.[/quote]

Next week against the Saints won't be easy for them.

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Freaking Cowboys. Stupid fumble by Brown killed us.

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Lucky ass Cowbitches!

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[quote=Mattyk;976591]Next week against the Saints won't be easy for them.[/quote]

Yep, but the problem is, they lose and beat us and we beat philly, they're in..

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[quote=CultBrennan59;976594]Yep, but the problem is, they lose and beat us and we beat philly, they're in..[/quote]

We win and we're in. Just got to take care of business.

[QUOTE=Dirtbag59;976592]Freaking Cowboys. Stupid fumble by Brown killed us.[/QUOTE]

They've got breaks like that a lot this year.

[QUOTE=Mattyk;976595]We win and we're in. Just got to take care of business.[/QUOTE]

I think we are a much better team but I don't like that the Cowboys will even have a chance.

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Something tells me rg3 doesn't return until week 17

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Wow Brandon Marhsall literally is baby TO; Just saw him crying at a press conference.

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[quote=Pigskins;976598]Something tells me rg3 doesn't return until week 17[/quote]

He seemed to be moving pretty well in warm-ups today. I think chances are good he's back next week.

I agree. Two weeks out for some rust to set up for week 17 wouldn't be good.

There are so many scenarios right now that could get teams in or kick them out.

Win out Skins! I want the playoffs.

Dallas kills me. Cleveland had them beat but a last second field goal for the win. They were beat by Philly and TO's got them back in the game late. Cincy had them beat and let the back in it late. Steelers looked bad and 2 TO's late let them get another win. I think they are hollow wins but wins none the less.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;976594]Yep, but the problem is, they lose and beat us and we beat philly, they're in..[/quote]

How is that?

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[quote=Mattyk;976595]We win and we're in. Just got to take care of business.[/quote]

^ Just that simple! does not matter what anyone else does at this point. F-the Cowboys... HTTR!!!

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[quote=Gtothearry;976602]I agree. Two weeks out for some rust to set up for week 17 wouldn't be good.

There are so many scenarios right now that could get teams in or kick them out.

Win out Skins! I want the playoffs.

[B]Dallas kills me. Cleveland had them beat but a last second field goal for the win. They were beat by Philly and TO's got them back in the game late. Cincy had them beat and let the back in it late. Steelers looked bad and 2 TO's late let them get another win. I think they are hollow wins but wins none the less.[/B][/quote]

For every close loss we have had, they have had a close win. I'm glad -- we were absolutely annihilating them in the first game before the defense decided to take the rest of the game off. I hope they've learned their lesson and we whoop them in the final game.

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[quote=Hog1;976552]I must admit, I have never really understood the attraction of the Cowboys....
.....much like incest.[/quote]

Lmao! This has got to be one of my alltime favorite posts! Thank you Hog1.....thank you very much. :)

If we win next week and both Chicago and nyg lose are we in?