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[quote=Chico23231;976477]i dont want to hear anything else about the coaching staff. They are fully responsible for this turn around. Today proved it. No one deserves more credit than Jim Haslett.[/quote]Haslett's defense has given up a ton of points since the bye, except for the horrible Philly offense without Vick, and a Giants offense (with a inconsistent Eli) trying to play keep-away. For the season, practically everybody's been dropping 20-30 points on us easily.

[URL="http://pickingpros.com/nfl/washington-redskins-stats.php"]LINK[/URL]

We're still a bottom third defense, IMO.

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[quote=Chico23231;976512]Hey i missed most of the second half, what was the reason Black replaced Polumbus? performance, injury??? coaching decision?[/quote]

Polumbus with a concussion

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[quote=HailGreen28;976515]Haslett's defense has given up a ton of points since the bye, except for the horrible Philly offense without Vick, and a Giants offense (with a inconsistent Eli) trying to play keep-away. For the season, practically everybody's been dropping 20-30 points on us easily.

[URL="http://pickingpros.com/nfl/washington-redskins-stats.php"]LINK[/URL]We're still a bottom third defense, IMO.[/quote]

Our defense has been much better since the bye, even before the bye you could see the play was becoming better. there is a massive difference between 20-30 points, you know that right?

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[quote=Chico23231;976517]Our defense has been much better since the bye, even before the bye you could see the play was becoming better. there is a massive difference between 20-30 points, you know that right?[/quote]

Absolutely. We might not be elite, but we're leaning more towards the defense we had last year. I was hating on Haslett all season, but he really is seeming to come into his own. I think with a couple with Orakpo and Carriker coming back, and a few more pieces on defense, we're going to be a team to fear for fears.

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[quote=Mattyk;976516]Polumbus with a concussion[/quote]

well hope he pulls it together. i tend to get a concussion watching him pass block and then the post sac shit fits when our QB is on the ground

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[quote=GTripp0012;976511]Not if Dallas wins Week 16 & 17[/quote]

Yes if we win next week it means we will be tied and we own the tie breaker

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[url=http://www.realredskins.com/rich-tandlers-real-redsk/2012/12/redskins-playoff-fate-is-in-their-own-hands.html]Redskins' playoff fate is in their own hands - Rich Tandler's Real Redskins[/url]

Win out and the east is ours

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Basically we could rest our starters in week 17

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a team to fear for fears.

Sounds like a band name........

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aI9lo5BRJmg]Tears for Fears - Shout (live) - YouTube[/url]

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[quote=HailGreen28;976515]Haslett's defense has given up a ton of points since the bye, except for the horrible Philly offense without Vick, and a Giants offense (with a inconsistent Eli) trying to play keep-away. For the season, practically everybody's been dropping 20-30 points on us easily.

[URL="http://pickingpros.com/nfl/washington-redskins-stats.php"]LINK[/URL]

We're still a bottom third defense, IMO.[/quote]

are you not considering the talent level he has at his disposal? Specifically in the secondary.

and yeah there's a very big difference from 20 - 30 points.

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[quote=Chico23231;976517]Our defense has been much better since the bye, even before the bye you could see the play was becoming better. there is a massive difference between 20-30 points, you know that right?[/quote]I'm just saying, you could book our D to give up 20-30 points on any given Sunday. We're not going to shut down anybody, outside of a hot stinky mess of an offense like Philly's a couple weeks ago.

We're on this playoff run because of our offense, not our defense. Would be nice to be great on both sides of the ball, but I don't think that's the case here.

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[quote=Pigskins;976521]Yes if we win next week it means we will be tied and we own the tie breaker[/quote]No one can own a tiebreaker before a season is over. We still play them to determine who would win the tiebreaker.

Next week would be our fourth division win, but Dallas already has three. If they were to beat us, they would have four.

They would win the tiebreaker on common opponents.

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It's division wins then conference wins, then common opponents

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Don't we own the conference?

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[quote=Pigskins;976528]It's division wins then conference wins, then common opponents[/quote]It's not actually, but it even if it was, it wouldn't matter. Conference wins would be equal if Dallas wins their last two NFC games and we go 1-1. Both teams would be 7-5.

The bottom line remains: if Dallas loses this week, and next week, and New York loses next week, we can clinch. But that's pretty far fetched In every other scenario, we have to beat Dallas to finish ahead of them.

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Cleve had been playing well so to win on the road with a rookie qb making his first start is simply outstanding. But to put up 38 points? Gotta credit these coaches. Kyle called his best game as a skin. Cousins looked like a stud and he will be a starter in the NFL.

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Ahhhh well lets hope they lose tonight AND next week, that should do it lol

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[quote=HailGreen28;976526]I'm just saying, you could book our D to give up 20-30 points on any given Sunday. We're not going to shut down anybody, outside of a hot stinky mess of an offense like Philly's a couple weeks ago.

[B]We're on this playoff run because of our offense, not our defense. Would be nice to be great on both sides of the ball, but I don't think that's the case here[/B].[/quote]

Yeah I agree our offense is carrying the D, but the play on defense side of the ball has been better since the beginning of the year. Haslett been scheming well and his halftime adjustments have been on point. He was dealt a bad hand with that secondary and 2 very important pass rushers. Ive been surprised.

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[quote=HailGreen28;976526]I'm just saying, you could book our D to give up 20-30 points on any given Sunday. We're not going to shut down anybody, outside of a hot stinky mess of an offense like Philly's a couple weeks ago.

We're on this playoff run because of our offense, not our defense. Would be nice to be great on both sides of the ball, but I don't think that's the case here.[/quote]

We're on this run because were playing well on offense, defense, and special teams. Just think of what today would be like without the turnovers?

No team that wins 5 in a row wins them because of one side of the ball. The defense compliments our offense being that they are really opportunistic.

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Anyone heard anything on injuries sustained today?

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[quote=HailGreen28;976515]Haslett's defense has given up a ton of points since the bye, except for the horrible Philly offense without Vick, and a Giants offense (with a inconsistent Eli) trying to play keep-away. For the season, practically everybody's been dropping 20-30 points on us easily.

[URL="http://pickingpros.com/nfl/washington-redskins-stats.php"]LINK[/URL]

We're still a bottom third defense, IMO.[/quote]
I know...right?
Haslett's holding them back.....

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I also need to eat some crow after calling out Royster who played the best game I have seen him play this year.

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[quote=Mattyk;976522][URL="http://www.realredskins.com/rich-tandlers-real-redsk/2012/12/redskins-playoff-fate-is-in-their-own-hands.html"]Redskins' playoff fate is in their own hands - Rich Tandler's Real Redskins[/URL]

[B]Win out and the east is ours[/B][/quote]
I just keep shaking my head and giggling like a.......school girl
How sweet is this?
Come what may..........

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[quote=Alvin Walton;976483]How good was our draft this year?
Huh?
Huh?
Huh?[/quote]

well, if you count forbath, and chase minnifield (who we'll see next year), i'd say it's somewhere above "not awful".

[QUOTE=GTripp0012;976511]Not if Dallas wins Week 16 & 17[/QUOTE]

If dallas loses today we are up a game. If we win next week we are still up a game no matter what dallas does. making week 17 pointless. Because even if they beat us we hold the tiebreaker.

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[quote=punch it in;976559]If dallas loses today we are up a game. If we win next week we are still up a game no matter what dallas does. making week 17 pointless. [B]Because even if they beat us we hold the tiebreaker.[/B][/quote]If they beat us, they hold the tiebreaker.

If we beat them, well, there won't be a tie.

[QUOTE=GTripp0012;976527]No one can own a tiebreaker before a season is over. We still play them to determine who would win the tiebreaker.

Next week would be our fourth division win, but Dallas already has three. If they were to beat us, they would have four.

They would win the tiebreaker on common opponents.[/QUOTE]

You sure about common opponents?
Edit: damn thats close your rite though. Bengals.

Naaa, Dallas needs to lose 2 for it to be pointless.

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[quote=punch it in;976562]You sure about common opponents?[/quote]Yes.

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[quote=Swarley;976535]We're on this run because were playing well on offense, defense, and special teams. Just think of what today would be like without the turnovers?

No team that wins 5 in a row wins them because of one side of the ball. The defense compliments our offense being that they are really opportunistic.[/quote]Just in recent years the Patriots and Packers have won with just offense, even more dramatically than we have.

Not that I like that, I'd prefer being more balanced. Also, I agree that I'd take turnovers and a middle of the road defense, but currently we're middle of the road in turnovers (around 12th), and a high "bottom third" in overall defense.

[QUOTE=GTripp0012;976564]Yes.[/QUOTE]

Your rite. Its damn close but they beat cincy. Thats the only difference. Well lets hope they lose to the saints too. Than its pointless

[QUOTE=punch it in;976566]Your rite. Its damn close but they beat cincy. Thats the only difference. Well lets hope they lose to the saints too. Than its pointless[/QUOTE]

A game Cinci blew.

I like our chances against Dallas though.

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[quote=Hog1;976539]I know...right?
Haslett's holding them back.....[/quote]LOL. Good jinx. Hope it works.

Maybe Shanahan needs to say he's still evaluating the defense....:FIREdevil

[QUOTE=Gtothearry;976568]A game Cinci blew.

I like our chances against Dallas though.[/QUOTE]

Agreed!

[QUOTE=HailGreen28;976565]Just in recent years the Patriots and Packers have won with just offense, even more dramatically than we have.

Not that I like that, I'd prefer being more balanced. Also, I agree that I'd take turnovers and a middle of the road defense, but currently we're middle of the road in turnovers (around 12th), and a high "bottom third" in overall defense.[/QUOTE]

And the Saints and Colts.

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Instead of hoping for this or that, let's just try to win out. Then we won't have to worry about Dallas/NY losing or anything.

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[quote=mooby;976574]Instead of hoping for this or that, let's just try to win out. Then we won't have to worry about Dallas/NY losing or anything.[/quote]

Where's the "like" button?

[QUOTE=mooby;976574]Instead of hoping for this or that, let's just try to win out. Then we won't have to worry about Dallas/NY losing or anything.[/QUOTE]

So you are rooting for Pittsburgh?
Edit: after twenty years of pain im not ashamed that i want or need help to make this happen. Lol. Of course i hope we win out but resting our starters in week 17 is fine with me.

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Kyle Shanahan is a magician.

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First, lets give a round of applause to the Shanahans. What a turn around, and they've finally improved their record here after going (5-11, 4-12 )


Second, what a win. This in my opinion was probably the biggest win of the season, due to the circumstances, especially after not having our starting QB and the Giants losing.

Third, What a draft. Cousins, was great insurance. I didn't like the move based on what other needs we have, but today, that pick was worth it, and in a few years when we trade Kirk, he'll get us some value. Hell, maybe a team like the Jets with Revis or the Chiefs with Eric Berry would be in trade discussions; but thats a long long ways away.