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[quote=Mattyk;1012034]Jimmy Graham being left off the list is just a joke.

I'm all for doing a list show like this, but they've got to get serious about how they put the list together. Poll more players and poll the media too. Come up with a rating system or something.[/quote]

If they polled the media wouldn't that ruin the point of all pro teams?

[QUOTE=donofriose;1012071]If they polled the media wouldn't that ruin the point of all pro teams?[/QUOTE]

Actually I'd rather see an all pro reveal show than this top 100 garbage.

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[quote=Mattyk;1012072]Actually I'd rather see an all pro reveal show than this top 100 garbage.[/quote]What would be the best process for Pro-Bowl selections? Maybe have all the coaches/assistants vote, where they can't vote for anyone on their own team?

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Rank Player 2012 Team 2013 Team Position 2012 L.C. Ref
21 Reggie Wayne Indianapolis Colts Wide receiver return
22 Larry Fitzgerald Arizona Cardinals Wide receiver 15
23 Andrew Luck Indianapolis Colts Quarterback NR
24 Marshawn Lynch Seattle Seahawks Running back 70
25 Rob Gronkowski New England Patriots Tight end 4
26 Julio Jones Atlanta Falcons Wide receiver NR
27 Brandon Marshall Chicago Bears Wide receiver return
28 Joe Thomas Cleveland Browns Offensive tackle 54
29 Justin Smith San Francisco 49ers Defensive end 12
30 Vince Wilfork New England Patriots Defensive tackle 51
31 Clay Matthews Green Bay Packers Outside linebacker 4
32 Frank Gore San Francisco 49ers Running back 4
33 Patrick Peterson Arizona Cardinals Cornerback 22
34 Charles Tillman Chicago Bears Cornerback NR
35 Dez Bryant Dallas Cowboys Wide receiver NR
36 Geno Atkins Cincinnati Bengals Defensive tackle NR
37 NaVorro Bowman San Francisco 49ers Inside linebacker 48
38 Vernon Davis San Francisco 49ers Tight end 5
39 Roddy White Atlanta Falcons Wide receiver 26
40 Ndamukong Suh Detroit Lions Defensive tackle 2
41 Jason Witten Dallas Cowboys Tight end 34
42 Haloti Ngata Baltimore Ravens Defensive tackle 33
43 Eli Manning New York Giants Quarterback 12
44 Wes Welker New England Patriots Denver Broncos Wide receiver 21
45 LeSean McCoy Philadelphia Eagles Running back 27
46 Cam Newton Carolina Panthers Quarterback 6
47 Tony Gonzalez Atlanta Falcons Tight end 6
48 Duane Brown Houston Texans Offensive tackle NR
49 Justin Houston Kansas City Chiefs Outside linebacker NR
50 Richard Sherman Seattle Seahawks Cornerback NR
51 Russell Wilson Seattle Seahawks Quarterback NR
52 Vincent Jackson Tampa Bay Buccaneers Wide receiver NR
53 Champ Bailey Denver Broncos Cornerback 7
54 Julius Peppers Chicago Bears Defensive end 28
55 Jason Pierre-Paul New York Giants Defensive end 31
56 Terrell Suggs Baltimore Ravens Outside linebacker 45
57 Doug Martin Tampa Bay Buccaneers Running back NR
58 Victor Cruz New York Giants Wide receiver 19
59 Derrick Johnson Kansas City Chiefs Outside linebacker 19
60 Jared Allen Minnesota Vikings Defensive end 47
61 Ben Roethlisberger Pittsburgh Steelers Quarterback 31
62 Chris Johnson Tennessee Titans Running back 38
63 Stephen Tulloch Detroit Lions Middle linebacker NR
64 Alfred Morris Washington Redskins Running back NR
65 Dwayne Bowe Kansas City Chiefs Wide receiver return
66 Earl Thomas Seattle Seahawks Free safety 0
67 Darrelle Revis New York Jets Tampa Bay Buccaneers Cornerback 62
68 Demaryius Thomas Denver Broncos Wide receiver NR
69 Tim Jennings Chicago Bears Cornerback NR
70 Chad Greenway Minnesota Vikings Outside linebacker NR
71 Trent Richardson Cleveland Browns Running back NR
72 Mario Williams Buffalo Bills Defensive end return
73 Antonio Gates San Diego Chargers Tight end return
74 Robert Mathis Indianapolis Colts Outside linebacker / Defensive end return
75 Brandon Flowers Kansas City Chiefs Cornerback NR
76 Matthew Stafford Detroit Lions Quarterback 35
77 Aaron Hernandez New England Patriots Tight end NR
78 Joe Staley San Francisco 49ers Offensive tackle 11
79 Luke Kuechly Carolina Panthers Middle linebacker NR
80 Dwight Freeney Indianapolis Colts San Diego Chargers Defensive end 9
81 Colin Kaepernick San Francisco 49ers Quarterback NR [2]
82 Logan Mankins New England Patriots Guard 18
83 Lance Briggs Chicago Bears Outside linebacker 11
84 Steve Smith Carolina Panthers Wide receiver 49
85 Charles Woodson Green Bay Packers Oakland Raiders Cornerback / Strong safety 49
86 London Fletcher Washington Redskins Inside linebacker 1
87 Bernard Pollard Baltimore Ravens Tennessee Titans Strong safety NR
88 Jacoby Jones Baltimore Ravens Wide receiver NR
89 Cameron Wake Miami Dolphins Defensive end return
90 Percy Harvin Minnesota Vikings Seattle Seahawks Wide receiver NR
91 Troy Polamalu Pittsburgh Steelers Strong safety 72
92 Gerald McCoy Tampa Bay Buccaneers Defensive tackle NR
93 Anquan Boldin Baltimore Ravens San Francisco 49ers Wide receiver NR
94 Daryl Washington Arizona Cardinals Inside linebacker NR
95 Max Unger Seattle Seahawks Center NR
96 Dashon Goldson San Francisco 49ers Tampa Bay Buccaneers Free safety NR
97 Heath Miller Pittsburgh Steelers Tight end NR
98 Maurice Jones-Drew Jacksonville Jaguars Running back 86
99 Trent Williams Washington Redskins Offensive tackle NR
100 Dennis Pitta Baltimore Ravens Tight end NR [1]

Re: NFL Top 100 of 2013
 

have seen that griffin will be announced thursday night on 11-20 I say he will be #13 or lower

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[quote=Bubba305-ST21-;1012490]have seen that griffin will be announced thursday night on 11-20 I say he will be #13 or lower[/quote]

I guess if you were last year's Offensive Rookie of the Year, you have to be the highest ranked rookie on this list right?

I didn't imagine he would break the top 10, but I am happy that he is higher than Andrew Luck.

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BREAKING NEWS:

RG III Ranked # 15

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[url=http://www.nfl.com/top100/2013#video=0ap2000000212735]Top 100 Players of 2013 - NFL.com[/url]

For those that didn't see it last night or wish to see it again

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[quote=Mattyk;1012072]Actually I'd rather see an all pro reveal show than this top 100 garbage.[/quote]

I agree but the NFL Network has to fill up time when there's no football going on so we have to put up with this garbage.

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[quote=irish;1012865]I agree but the NFL Network has to fill up time when there's no football going on so we have to put up with this garbage.[/quote]

Yeah I get that, they could just do a better job with it is all.

The whole thing seems very half-assed.

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so should they take A.Hernandez off the list?

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what players actually voted for this?

tony romo said he didnt and he doesnt know of any cowboys who did or even knew about this "player only"voting ballot.

chris canty also said he didnt vote, doesnt know anyone that voted and that he didnt even hear of this list until it came out and reporters started asking about it.

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[quote=over the mountain;1012878]what players actually voted for this?

tony romo said he didnt and he doesnt know of any cowboys who did or even knew about this "player only"voting ballot.

chris canty also said he didnt vote, doesnt know anyone that voted and that he didnt even hear of this list until it came out and reporters started asking about it.[/quote]

The claim is 487 players voted. If you take 53 man rosters, that's about 9 teams. If you take starting 22, that's 22 teams. Like Matty said, if they are going to do this, they ought to lay out some reasonably solid methodology. I love that Griffin came in 15th, but without knowing how voters were selected it loses a lot of luster. Of course romo is just spitting sour grapes - insert ballot interception joke here.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1012870]so should they take A.Hernandez off the list?[/quote]

Should they? Yes they should.

Will they? No, because Vilma made it last year when the whole Bounty thing came out. Also there was a good chance that Trent Williams didn't make the list had Ray Lewis of not retired and Ronde Barber. They said that Ronde Barber would have been 65 (I believe: somewhere in the 60s I remember them saying) and I'm sure had Ray of played another season they players would have voted for him just because its Ray Lewis (hell Ed Reed had a good but not Ed Reed great season last year and only dropped 2 spots, still staying in the top 20). Since Trent was 99, that means he would have been gone (as well as Dennis Pitta who was 100, and somehow is 'better' than Jimmy Graham, who was left off the list)

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Top 10 players in the NFL by the players:

1. Adrian Peterson
2. Peyton Manning
3. Calvin Johnson
4. Tom Brady
5. JJ Watt
6. Aaron Rodgers
7. Aldon Smith
8. Arian Foster
9. Von Miller
10. Patrick Willis

I completely disagree with Aldon Smith being ranked that high. He was a completely different when Justin Smith got injured and got no sacks when he left. Justin Smith holds OLineman free so Aldon can get sacks. Aldons good, but not better than Patrick Willis, Von Miller, DeMarcus Ware and Cameron Wake.

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Amazing how much interest I lost in this once I heard Griffin's spot.

I don't think Manning is better than Brady

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No surprise with AP being #1 considering the type of season he had coming off that injury. Rodgers is too low and would be my only real complaint. Otherwise it's just splitting hairs when you get into the top 10.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;1013656]Top 10 players in the NFL by the players:

1. Adrian Peterson
2. Peyton Manning
3. Calvin Johnson
4. Tom Brady
5. JJ Watt
6. Aaron Rodgers
7. Aldon Smith
8. Arian Foster
9. Von Miller
10. Patrick Willis

I completely disagree with Aldon Smith being ranked that high. He was a completely different when Justin Smith got injured and got no sacks when he left. Justin Smith holds OLineman free so Aldon can get sacks. Aldons good, but not better than Patrick Willis, Von Miller, DeMarcus Ware and Cameron Wake.[/quote]

I agree with you about Aldon Smith. Also, I think Arian Foster is ranked a little high. They put him over Jamaal Charles and Marshawn Lynch? Putting Foster over Alfred Morris I can understand, since Foster is the better all-around back and Morris is so young.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1013660]I don't think Manning is better than Brady[/quote]

I think Manning is better than Brady. Peyton Manning was the fastest QB in NFL history to reach 1,000; 2,000; 3,000; and 4,000 completions. But since Brady was a back-up to start his career let's look at other stats.

Peyton Manning in 2012: 400 completions, 68.6%, 4,659 yards, 37 TDs, 105.8 rating.

Tom Brady in 2012: :401 completions, 63.0%, 4,827 yards, 34 TDs, 98.7 rating.

The only area where Brady has an advantage is yards, but everywhere else Manning is better. Brady obviously has more Super Bowl wins, but I still think that Manning is the superior quarterback.

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Manning had a better year than Brady. He deserved to be higher. I thought JJ Watt should have been 2 or 3, but he plays defense and no one likes defensive players no matter how dominate they were. I do not understand how Aldon Smith is number 7. Him being over Von Miller is a joke. Basically the only reason Aldon Smith is on the list because the Bears oline was a joke last year. I didn't even know he was playing this past postseason. This list was kind of bad this year

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[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/07/01/pfts-top-100-76-100/]PFT’s Top 100, 76-100 | ProFootballTalk[/url]

Profootballtalk is coming out with their own top 100 list, interesting to see some of the not so popular players make the list.