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I'm curious to see where they will place Joe Gibbs. 3 SB with 3 different QB, no star QB like Montana, Brady. He'll probably get screwed eventhough he was as good or better than Bill Walsh and Belichick.

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I put a * next to Belicheat u got caught stealing calls/signals, yes you can say every team does it but he got caught and he hasn't won a SB since just my opinion,.

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[quote=NYCskinfan82;1010036]I put a * next to Belicheat u got caught stealing calls/signals, yes you can say every team does it but he got caught and he hasn't won a SB since just my opinion,.[/quote]


So he has won three as a head coach and gone to it 2 more times and the team is always in the playoffs and his players would die for him, but because you don't like him you give him * , interesting.

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[quote=Giantone;1010048]So he has won three as a head coach and gone to it 2 more times and the team is always in the playoffs and his players would die for him, but because you don't like him you give him * , interesting.[/quote]

I never said I didnt like him, I called him a cheat.

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[quote=NYCskinfan82;1010036]I put a * next to Belicheat u got caught stealing calls/signals, yes you can say every team does it but he got caught and he hasn't won a SB since just my opinion,.[/quote]

I would not be so quick to call him a cheat based on some signal stealing. I also would not think he was the first or the only coach to ever try and steal some signals. He was the first in the modern age to be caught but that doesn't mean he was the only one over the course of nfl history to do so.

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[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;1010065]I would not be so quick to call him a cheat based on some signal stealing. I also would not think he was the first or the only coach to ever try and steal some signals. He was the first in the modern age to be caught but that doesn't mean he was the only one over the course of nfl history to do so.[/quote]

Different sport but do you give that same pass to Barry Bonds.

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[quote=NYCskinfan82;1010076]Different sport but do you give that same pass to Barry Bonds.[/quote]

Screw Barry Bonds, can't stand that A-hole! Unfortunately the SF Giants fans here are in denial and love him. The funny thing is that the Giants started winning the WS after he left.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1010077]Screw Barry Bonds, can't stand that A-hole! Unfortunately the SF Giants fans here are in denial and love him. The funny thing is that the Giants started winning the WS after he left.[/quote]

Who exactly was Barry playing against that wasnt juiced up?

HOF's are packed full of dopers. If you think otherwise, then you havent been paying attention.

That doesnt mean it was the right thing to do. But unless we plan on wiping out 40 years of the record books, then we havent rid sports of steroid fueled records.

Lets be 100% honest, we knew. We have known since the 70's. We wanted athletes that could bench press Volkswagens and run faster than cheetahs. HGH is still rampant, we know, lets not pretend that we dont. The standard from the 60/70's until very recently was "do them, just dont get caught." Barry isnt considered a bad guy for doing steroids, he is considered a bad guy for getting caught when hundreds of others didnt.

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[quote=Skinzman;1010079]Who exactly was Barry playing against that wasnt juiced up?

HOF's are packed full of dopers. If you think otherwise, then you havent been paying attention.

That doesnt mean it was the right thing to do. But unless we plan on wiping out 40 years of the record books, then we havent rid sports of steroid fueled records.

Lets be 100% honest, we knew. We have known since the 70's. We wanted athletes that could bench press Volkswagens and run faster than cheetahs. HGH is still rampant, we know, lets not pretend that we dont. The standard from the 60/70's until very recently was "do them, just dont get caught." Barry isnt considered a bad guy for doing steroids, he is considered a bad guy for getting caught when hundreds of others didnt.[/quote]

Now if you were Hank Aaron and you had some juiced up clown breaking your all time record, how would you feel? Hank was a small guy who wasn't juiced up, he did it the right way.

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[quote=NYCskinfan82;1010036]I put a * next to Belicheat u got caught stealing calls/signals, yes you can say every team does it but he got caught and he hasn't won a SB since just my opinion,.[/quote]

I doubt an asterisk stuff will ever happen, but Belichick will always be remembered/associated by anyone outside of Boston with Spygate.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1010081]Now if you were Hank Aaron and you had some juiced up clown breaking your all time record, how would you feel? Hank was a small guy who wasn't juiced up, he did it the right way.[/quote]

I would expect any of the all time greats from the 50's and 60's (or earlier) to be upset. They have every reason to be. But their hate shouldnt stop at only the players who got caught. It should be directed at the players, owners, fans, media etc. All of which were complicit in this.

On the other hand. Where is the outrage for someone who went from 10 homeruns a year to 20-25 a year due to steroids? Is the standard one of "Do the juice, make your millions, just stop short of breaking records"? How many players were named in the Mitchell report? How many do we actually care about?

If Belicheck never won a SB, would many of us care that he was stealing signs? I personally doubt it.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1010088]I doubt an asterisk stuff will ever happen, but Belichick will always be remembered/associated by anyone outside of Boston with Spygate.[/quote]


See, I just don't think so. Players love him and the spy gate thing is just something haters throw out there. If the taping of other teams help that much he would have had a much better record in Cleveland, was it right maybe not but all teams do something like it . I have a question what is the difference with that and picking up a released player and hitting them up for info on an opponent and then letting him go?

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[quote=Ruhskins;1010088]I doubt an asterisk stuff will ever happen, but Belichick will always be remembered/associated by anyone outside of Boston with Spygate.[/quote]Agreed. Especially until he wins a SB after Spygate.

I believe lots of stuff like spygate happens in the NFL. I don't see the problem with taping visible signals on the sidelines during a game, I assume everybody watches that. It's stuff like taping other teams practices, listening in their radios during a game, Lavar Arrington giving the redskins playbook to the vagiants, that's bad, IMO.