[QUOTE=tmandoug1;1041932]Need to send RGIII to Subway and have him start serving the shit he is selling, not liking him as QB anymore. I see one more fing Jason Campbell " oh well" smile I am going to lose it.[/QUOTE]

If it wasn't for him we wouldn't have scored today

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[quote=DynamiteRave;1041929]I'm wondering if that knee injury ruined Jenkins career. I remember when we drafted him everyone thought he was gonna blow up. Now I can hardly remember that he's on the roster.[/quote]

I think he looks soft and doesn't have the fire to play the position.

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[quote=tmandoug1;1041932]Need to send RGIII to Subway and have him start serving the shit he is selling, not liking him as QB anymore. I see one more fing Jason Campbell " oh well" smile I am going to lose it.[/quote]

I would like to see him a little riled up in the post-game presser, but I don't think he's that kind of guy.

He seemed pretty riled up on the field, so I'll take that since it's better than nothing.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1041934]If it wasn't for him we wouldn't have scored today[/quote]
Well sooner or later when you are hurling the ball five feet in front or over your WR's you are gonna get lucky. Not seeing the "it" with him, sorry.

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Too many games missing wide open receivers, easy touchdowns or first downs, can't win that way,,, when are we gonna get a general in the backfield instead of a quick on their feet scout.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1041931]And OLB[/quote]

With a new coach I can see us going back to a 4-3 on defense. Rak and Kerrigan as DE's - like they were in college. OL is a glaring need. I want some big ol..like the hogs of old. I don't care who you have as a qb with a awful offensive line like we have they will not succeed. We will need to sign some free agents to address OL, DL, LB both inside and out, CB & safety and a punter.

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[quote=VTSkins1961;1041949]With a new coach I can see us going back to a 4-3 on defense. Rak and Kerrigan as DE's - like they were in college. OL is a glaring need. I want some big ol..like the hogs of old. I don't care who you have as a qb with a awful offensive line like we have they will not succeed. We will need to sign some free agents to address OL, DL, LB both inside and out, CB & safety and a punter.[/quote]I never bought that making Rak an OLB would be good for his career. He is a complete liability in pass coverage. I want his hand in the dirt every play.

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RG3 deserves a lot of the blame, but right now out offensive line cannot protect him at all. I really don't want to see any o-lineman return, except Trent (who had a bad game today). I think the threat of the run last season and a healthy RG3 compensated for their weakness.

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[quote=ram29jackson;1041868]impartially speaking, who thought Washington actually had a chance in this game ?

I didn't, the Eagles are clicking in enough areas to be the favorite and that's what happened, no real surprise here[/quote]

I did.

The Eagles aren't that good. Better than the Redskins obviously, but not by much in my opinion. They still don't know how to put a team away. If this was any other team than Washington, they would have lost this one.

Honestly, the G-Men have my vote as the team that will come out of this division on top. They are playing the best all around ball right now. If they beat Dallas next week...hmmm. Philly does have the easier schedule going forward though.

On the bright side, it looks like the Redskins will have a top five pick in the 2014 draft.

Oh wait...

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Man this thread. Haha

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Its pretty bad when three Redskins cannot tackle a QB on the three yd. line

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[quote=tmandoug1;1041932]Need to send RGIII to Subway and have him start serving the shit he is selling, not liking him as QB anymore. I see one more fing Jason Campbell " oh well" smile I am going to lose it.[/quote]

I think he really needed to spend the off season learning and running the offense but instead he had to spend it rehabbing his knee. IMO its impossible to underestimate how much of an impact that had on his season and the team's.

While I didnt expect the team to perform this badly I always thought that with RG3 having to spend his offseason rehabbing meant that expectations had to be lowered for this year. I think if RG3 gets out of this season healthy then next year will be a better barometer of whether his rookie season was the norm aor a fluke.

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I can't get riled up about RG3's performance in the Shanahan's offense at this point because it just isn't relevant to his future. There's a little bit of cause for concern at this point, but not matter how many stinkers he puts up from now until the end of the year, it won't matter in a year.

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[quote=irish;1041976]I think he really needed to spend the off season learning and running the offense but instead he had to spend it rehabbing his knee. IMO its impossible to underestimate how much of an impact that had on his season and the team's.

While I didnt expect the team to perform this badly I always thought that with RG3 having to spend his offseason rehabbing meant that expectations had to be lowered for this year. I think if RG3 gets out of this season healthy then next year will be a better barometer of whether his rookie season was the norm aor a fluke.[/quote]


We run a west coast offense, Sally. That means the first 15 plays are scripted by Kyle. We start slow because the script is predictable and it stinks.

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[quote=tmandoug1;1041932]Need to send RGIII to Subway and have him start serving the shit he is selling, not liking him as QB anymore. I see one more fing Jason Campbell " oh well" smile I am going to lose it.[/quote]


RG3 and Campbell are not comparable unless you look at one obvious similarity.

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[quote=Gary84Clark;1041980]RG3 and Campbell are not comparable unless you look at one obvious similarity.[/quote]

If I was a NIners fan I'd be way more worried about Kapernick's terrible play since he had a full offseason to practice than I am about RG3 as a Skins fan. If RG3 was a in his 5th year then I wouldnt put as much importance on the offseason but this is only his 2nd year and he didnt have an offseason to practice. That makes a big difference.

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[quote=GTripp0012;1041977]I can't get riled up about RG3's performance in the Shanahan's offense at this point because it just isn't relevant to his future. There's a little bit of cause for concern at this point, but not matter how many stinkers he puts up from now until the end of the year, it won't matter in a year.[/quote]

I would like to think that what you predict comes to pass; that, after this season, RGIII will no longer be condemned to taking too many hits on designed QB running plays in this offense.

If I were Dan Snyder, I would be very troubled about the immediate future of my Franchise QB in this offense. The way RGIII is being used in the running game is irresponsible, IMO. I believe that RGIII may be running more on the pro level than he did in college. That is Ngata good idea. Actually, it is a recipe for disaster.

Did my eyes deceive me, or did the Shanny's actually run a 1950's style Oklahoma Triple Option play with RGIII?! Sometimes I'd swear they are [U]trying[/U] to get him reinjured with the stupid crap they ask him to do.

Frankly, I'd welcome a little meddling by Dan Snyder in this case, if just to tell Shanny to cut out the designed running plays by RGIII. It's time for DS to step in and protect his most valuable player asset from the Shanahans who I think are myopically and callously shortening RGIII"s career.

Also, isn't it about time for RGIII to receive the benefits of having a top-notch QB coach?

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[quote=irish;1041983]If I was a NIners fan I'd be way more worried about Kapernick's terrible play since he had a full offseason to practice than I am about RG3 as a Skins fan. If RG3 was a in his 5th year then I wouldnt put as much importance on the offseason but this is only his 2nd year and he didnt have an offseason to practice. That makes a big difference.[/quote]

Kapernick vs RG3 "THE BATTLE OF THE SOPHORME SHLUMPS"

Whose gonna be more pathetic?

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[quote=Chico23231;1041985]Kapernick vs RG3 "THE BATTLE OF THE SOPHORME SHLUMPS"

Whose gonna be me pathetic?[/quote]

I wonder...the Niners had won five in a row before losing to a good Carolina team and then going into the Superdome and nearly beating Brees and co.

In the last two weeks the Redskins have lost to a 1-7 Minnesota team missing eight starters and then got blown out (don't kid yourselves that was a blowout, no matter how many points they scored in garbage time when it didn't matter) by a Philadelphia team that had lost ten straight at home.

SF by two touchdowns over the Redskins at least. This team is so awful right now and the locker room is finally breaking down, at least publicly.

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[url=http://espn.go.com/blog/nfceast/post/_/id/58755/eagles-24-redskins-16-ten-observations]Eagles 24, Redskins 16: Ten Observations - NFC East Blog - ESPN[/url]

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[quote=Chico23231;1041985]Kapernick vs RG3 "THE BATTLE OF THE SOPHORME SHLUMPS"

Whose gonna be more pathetic?[/quote]


Griff will play ok imo but they will beat us, we are going south fast and their going to be hungry for a W , I do think it'll be close though

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Yes, receiver Josh Morgan is clearly frustrated and told reporters that he was told he couldn’t talk after the game, then later telling The Washington Post, “Coach said I can’t talk. Coach said I can’t play football and I can’t talk.” Don’t know if that’s really true or not; Shanahan had already spoken by the time Morgan said this and could not be reached later. Morgan was inactive. He’s been frustrated for a couple weeks, but Morgan hasn’t been productive. He was given numerous chances to produce in various roles and did not do so. The Redskins paid him $6 million this season. We’ll call this Exhibit A as to why free agency is not a slam dunk answer and why the salary cap mess can’t be blamed for all that ails Washington.


DAMN

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[quote=Gary84Clark;1041978]We run a west coast offense, Sally. That means the first 15 plays are scripted by Kyle. We start slow because the script is predictable and it stinks.[/quote]

I can see maybe the first 1-5 plays based on game film and prep to start a game, but when the team starts nearly every single game since Kyle arrived as a couple of plays then 3 and out punt, than he ought to stop scripting. Whatever his prep work or film study is- its predictable as all hell.




[quote=irish;1041983]If I was a NIners fan I'd be way more worried about Kapernick's terrible play since he had a full offseason to practice than I am about RG3 as a Skins fan. If RG3 was a in his 5th year then I wouldnt put as much importance on the offseason but this is only his 2nd year and he didnt have an offseason to practice. That makes a big difference.[/quote]

Robert had the entire offseason to practice, lead the team thru OTA's, and preseason to prepare. Oh no wait that was Kirk... Good thing he was just a camp body.
How many QB's made the final 53 this year? Lol oh yeah, this regime needs to be taken around back and 'Mystic Rivered' for what they done

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1042011]Yes, receiver Josh Morgan is clearly frustrated and told reporters that he was told he couldn’t talk after the game, then later telling The Washington Post, “Coach said I can’t talk. Coach said I can’t play football and I can’t talk.” Don’t know if that’s really true or not; Shanahan had already spoken by the time Morgan said this and could not be reached later. Morgan was inactive. He’s been frustrated for a couple weeks, but Morgan hasn’t been productive. He was given numerous chances to produce in various roles and did not do so. The Redskins paid him $6 million this season. We’ll call this Exhibit A as to why free agency is not a slam dunk answer and why the salary cap mess can’t be blamed for all that ails Washington.


DAMN[/quote]

This is part of the reason Shanny needs to go, poor personel decisions. Im still lost, why the fuck did we draft LeRibus? Because he went to fucking SMU?

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1042011]Yes, receiver Josh Morgan is clearly frustrated and told reporters that he was told he couldn’t talk after the game, then later telling The Washington Post, “Coach said I can’t talk. Coach said I can’t play football and I can’t talk.” Don’t know if that’s really true or not; Shanahan had already spoken by the time Morgan said this and could not be reached later. Morgan was inactive. He’s been frustrated for a couple weeks, but Morgan hasn’t been productive. He was given numerous chances to produce in various roles and did not do so. The Redskins paid him $6 million this season. We’ll call this Exhibit A as to why free agency is not a slam dunk answer and why the salary cap mess can’t be blamed for all that ails Washington.


DAMN[/quote]

Josh failed us. He was put in position to make plays even when e was demoted. The doghouse of shanahan is quite a bitter place to be. What is the redskins tally of Shanny doghousing per year or total?
2013- Fred, Josh, Rambo????
2012-
2011-
2010-Fat Al,


$6 million wasted on Josh's bum ass. He was supposed to break loose this season after his offseason surgeries. Someone better will be found for '14

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[quote=Gary84Clark;1041980]RG3 and Campbell are not comparable unless you look at one obvious similarity.[/quote]

yea they both had to be drafted by trading up to get.

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[URL="http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/football-insider/wp/2013/11/17/redskins-players-eagles-knew-what-was-coming-on-offense-and-defense/"]Redskins players: Eagles ‘knew what was coming’ on offense and defense[/URL]


“They did a good job of scheming us up,” quarterback Robert Griffin said. “They kind of knew what was coming before it was coming and that was disheartening. But like I told the guys, regardless of what’s going on out there, we’re the players and we have to make the plays work, and we just weren’t doing that in the first half.”

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Looking forward to the draft and free agency again. Hope eternal.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1042024][URL="http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/football-insider/wp/2013/11/17/redskins-players-eagles-knew-what-was-coming-on-offense-and-defense/"]Redskins players: Eagles ‘knew what was coming’ on offense and defense[/URL]


“[B]They did a good job of scheming us up,” quarterback Robert Griffin said. “They kind of knew what was coming before it was coming and that was disheartening[/B]. But like I told the guys, regardless of what’s going on out there, we’re the players and we have to make the plays work, and we just weren’t doing that in the first half.”[/quote]

Its called being "outcoached"

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1042024][URL="http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/football-insider/wp/2013/11/17/redskins-players-eagles-knew-what-was-coming-on-offense-and-defense/"]Redskins players: Eagles ‘knew what was coming’ on offense and defense[/URL]


“They did a good job of scheming us up,” quarterback Robert Griffin said. “They kind of knew what was coming before it was coming and that was disheartening. But like I told the guys, regardless of what’s going on out there, we’re the players and we have to make the plays work, and we just weren’t doing that in the first half.”[/quote]

We could look that way too if we had a pass rush.

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First 15 plays are scripted in West Coast offenses, we usually start slow and our first 15 scripted plays are a re-run from Murder She Wrote.

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[quote=Chico23231;1042028]Its called being "outcoached"[/quote]


Damn I hate to admit this but Mike has been a failure in DC and I was like the biggest Shanny guy from day 1 smh

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Priorities for next season:

1. New coaching staff.
2. Linemen on both sides of the ball.
3. Shutdown corner.
4. WR to complement Garcon.
5. ILB or MLB.
6. PR/KR
7. Punter
8. More linemen.
9. Still more linemen.
10. Other stuff.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1042034]Priorities for next season:

1. New coaching staff.
2. Linemen on both sides of the ball.
3. Shutdown corner.
4. WR to complement Garcon.
5. ILB or MLB.
6. PR/KR
7. Punter
8. More linemen.
9. Still more linemen.
10. Other stuff.[/quote]

2-10 is waaay more important than #1.

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[quote=irish;1042037]2-10 is waaay more important than #1.[/quote]

well the problem is when that coach gives Josh Morgan 6 mil per or you draft Leribus in the 3rd round. So you need a competent coach not to make dumb personel decisions.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1042024][URL="http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/football-insider/wp/2013/11/17/redskins-players-eagles-knew-what-was-coming-on-offense-and-defense/"]Redskins players: Eagles ‘knew what was coming’ on offense and defense[/URL]


“They did a good job of scheming us up,” quarterback Robert Griffin said. “They kind of knew what was coming before it was coming and that was disheartening. But like I told the guys, regardless of what’s going on out there, we’re the players and we have to make the plays work, and we just weren’t doing that in the first half.”[/quote]

No need to call out the coaches to the media. I guess when he threw the ball 15 feet over the wr's heads that it was Kyle's fault. He just needs to shut the hell up cause he sure did his part in sucking yesterday. He looks like Clinton Portis right now. Keep it behind closed doors.

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[quote=Sonny9TD;1042026]Looking forward to the draft and free agency again. Hope eternal.[/quote]

Gas up Redskins One! You know we're the off season champs!

All kidding aside we need to go out and get some free agents. We just really need to be careful about who we go out and get. No more Josh Morgan type signings.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1042024][URL="http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/football-insider/wp/2013/11/17/redskins-players-eagles-knew-what-was-coming-on-offense-and-defense/"]Redskins players: Eagles ‘knew what was coming’ on offense and defense[/URL]


“They did a good job of scheming us up,” quarterback Robert Griffin said. “They kind of knew what was coming before it was coming and that was disheartening. But like I told the guys, regardless of what’s going on out there, we’re the players and we have to make the plays work, and we just weren’t doing that in the first half.”[/quote]Note to Griffin - It didn't look like Philly knew what was coming when you overthrew Paulson by 10 yards on the first drive. That play was a GREAT call, and might have gone for a TD, but your throw wouldn't have hit the side of a barn. Acknowledge your recurring inaccuracy and your poor decision on the final INT before throwing the game plan (coaches) under the bus.

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[quote=SouperMeister;1042044]Note to Griffin - It didn't look like Philly knew what was coming when you overthrew Paulson by 10 yards on the first drive. That play was a GREAT call, and might have gone for a TD, but your throw wouldn't have hit the side of a barn. Acknowledge your recurring inaccuracy and your poor decision on the final INT before throwing the game plan (coaches) under the bus.[/quote]

Looked like Paulsen slowed down for some reason on that route, also looked like Griffin expected him to turn up field. Probably a miscommunication of some sort rather than a simple overthrow.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1042034]Priorities for next season:

1. New coaching staff.
2. Linemen on both sides of the ball.
3. Shutdown corner.
4. WR to complement Garcon.
5. ILB or MLB.
6. PR/KR
7. Punter
8. More linemen.
9. Still more linemen.
10. Other stuff.[/quote]

Scratch off #7 reserved for Crawford.
We have major needs at DE/OL. Personally, I think we can't find a 3-4 DE or MLB as easily or sensibly as it is to return to 4-3. The 3-4 failed us, we still lack personnel, if the nfl is a passing league we need a front 4 that can rush rather than depending on our LB's exclusively. Kerrigan or Rak could play DE and are athletic enough to cover flats or drop back.