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I've heard a lot of rumors everywhere that state basically if Shanahan loses to the 49er's, that it is almost a done deal he will be fired at the end of the season.

Can anybody really confirm that or at least say if the rumors are plausible?

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[quote=SolidSnake84;1043195]I've heard a lot of rumors everywhere that state basically if Shanahan loses to the 49er's, that it is almost a done deal he will be fired at the end of the season.

Can anybody really confirm that or at least say if the rumors are plausible?[/quote]

Not true

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[quote=SolidSnake84;1043195]I've heard a lot of rumors everywhere that state basically if Shanahan loses to the 49er's, that it is almost a done deal he will be fired at the end of the season.

Can anybody really confirm that or at least say if the rumors are plausible?[/quote]

Is the rumor's origin Stephen A. Smith?

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Who cares! keep Shanny or kick him to the curb, we still have the same fundamental problems as when he and Allen were hired. O line sucks, inconsistent Wrs, bad defensive backfield, poor tackling, bad special teams, etc, ad nauseum. This is nothing more than a WWE story line that just doesn't quit anymore, but the sad thing is it is getting really, really, really, OLD.

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[quote=Chico23231;1043187]Anybody can be a journalist these days. Sports journalism is a flipping joke. Kinda surprised nfl.com is peddling this garbage.[/quote]

Sports journalists are just a bunch of fans that have a journalism degree Bsing about sports. So many errors have been found reading articles on Foxsports.com it is unbelievable. No research is being done, or no follow through to make sure they are accurate. It is why Sports writers are where they are, they aren't ready for any real writing/reporting assignments.

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[quote=SkinsGuru;1043136]i would certainly be fine with this . . . if nothing else, he is very good with QB's . . .[/quote]


Nothing more than hype by the NFL, just how Rob Ryan is a great defensive guru now since he made the Saints D respectable, even though the Cowboys D sucked last year, which led to his canning. Madden sucked Shanahan's dick when he was with Denver, and it obviously was Elway and co. Only guy in the NFL today that lived up to the hype at all was Peyton Manning and even he wasn't all that hyped up, same goes for Drew Brees, and Tom(6th rd) Brady. The hype surrounding RG III was just plain ridiculous and it is going to bite the Skins in the ass when it is all said and done. The kid was set for life before he took one snap for the Skins. In today's world it is all about the benjamins. If players truly cared about winning you wouldn't see such mediocrity on the field every frigging week. The NFL is getting old and boring, in short stale anymore.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1043183]Stop. Just stop.


Can you show me ANYTHING about his career as a coach that leads you to believe he's good with QBs in any shape, form or fashion?


It's amazing to see how the average person sees a person on TV talking about stuff, and automatically think he's a genius with said topic. SMH[/quote]

Exactly!!!!!!!! This is where the hype machine melts before the reality. The guy did do a good job with the Raiders, but inherited Dungy's team in Tampa, so him nbeing such a great coach can be debated.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1043183]Stop. Just stop.


Can you show me ANYTHING about his career as a coach that leads you to believe he's good with QBs in any shape, form or fashion?


It's amazing to see how the average person sees a person on TV talking about stuff, and automatically think he's a genius with said topic. SMH[/quote]

Rich Gannon? Brad Johnson? Gruden may be a little bit of a attention whore, but the guy knows his stuff. Hell he even got to the playoffs with Chris Simms.

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[quote=GusFrerotte;1043209]Exactly!!!!!!!! This is where the hype machine melts before the reality. The guy did do a good job with the Raiders, but inherited Dungy's team in Tampa, so him nbeing such a great coach can be debated.[/quote]

You could say the same thing about Dungy going to Indy. He had Peyton Manning. Gruden got Brad Johnson!

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[quote=skinsfan69;1043294]Rich Gannon? Brad Johnson? Gruden may be a little bit of a attention whore, but the guy knows his stuff. Hell he even got to the playoffs with Chris Simms.[/quote]

Damn right, skinsfan69! Way to defend my boy Jon Gruden!

I'm starting to think we'll never win again, so why not go with an attention whore who has personality?

Jon Gruden would be fun! I love it when he goes into his Chucky act! That's why Dan Snyder should hire him.

Plus, he's a good coach and we might win with him.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1043337]I'm starting to think we'll never win again, so why not go with an attention whore who has personality?[/quote]I have considered this as well.

If you're going to play the role of the loser, that's fine, but at least make it interesting for me. I would tune in to watch Jon Gruden blow up on the sideline and make silly metaphors in his press conference.

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[quote=GTripp0012;1043340]I have considered this as well.

If you're going to play the role of the loser, that's fine, but at least make it interesting for me. I would tune in to watch Jon Gruden blow up on the sideline and make silly metaphors in his press conference.[/quote]

Makes you wonder what Jim Mora, Sr. and Dennis Green are doing right now, doesn't it?

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[quote=GTripp0012;1043340]I have considered this as well.

If you're going to play the role of the loser, that's fine, [B]but at least make it interesting for me. I would tune in to watch Jon Gruden blow up on the sideline and make silly metaphors in his press conference.[/quote][/B]

Yeah this is what I mean. Gruden loves the camera. But we all have to admit he works his ass off and knows offense. The SB against Oakland was one of the best coaching jobs ever.

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look, its obvious Kaep isn't good so the Redskins better exploit that like everyone else has

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[quote=ram29jackson;1043356]look, its obvious Kaep isn't good so the Redskins better exploit that like everyone else has[/quote]

Problem is as much as CK has struggled our defense makes guys like Christian Ponder look like all-pros. Don't hold your breath on our D exploiting anyone.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1043354][/B]

Yeah this is what I mean. Gruden loves the camera. But we all have to admit he works his ass off and knows offense. The SB against Oakland was one of the best coaching jobs ever.[/quote]

Gruden had no excuses losing that SB since he knew the Raiders inside and out and also had an incredible defense backing him. It was like taking an exam and having all the answers before hand.

[QUOTE=Mattyk;1043359]Problem is as much as CK has struggled our defense makes guys like Christian Ponder look like all-pros. Don't hold your breath on our D exploiting anyone.[/QUOTE]

We won't win tonight because of our D, gore will.have 100 and CK will have 200 passing

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[quote=skinsfan69;1043294]Rich Gannon? Brad Johnson? Gruden may be a little bit of a attention whore, but the guy knows his stuff. Hell he even got to the playoffs with Chris Simms.[/quote]

He got to the playoffs with one of the best defenses in NFL history and a power running game. I suggest you look at the stats of Brad Johnson during his tenure at Tampa Bay and tell me if you think those are any reflection of a good QB. If you think so, I surely don't want any QB you consider as good.

I'll give you Rich Gannon because he did make all-pro one of the years in Oakland. That said, I think it says a lot that Bill Callahan took the very same team that Gruden coached and got them to the Super Bowl. Footnote: Gannon made MVP under Callihan. So was it the OC that whole time or Gruden?

it's easy to be a good coach when you got a stacked team, which is exactly what Gruden worked with in both locations. Also, who picked those players? We know good and damn well Al made the selections in Oakland and he inherited a stacked team in Tampa. We all saw what happened when McKay left for Atlanta and Chucky and Bruce were making the personnel calls.

That said, he's NOT the answer here. Not even close by a long shot. Also to note, Gruden has never been a QB coach during his coaching career. (unless I've overlooked something) He was mostly a WR coach early on.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1043373]He got to the playoffs with one of the best defenses in NFL history and a power running game. I suggest you look at the stats of Brad Johnson during his tenure at Tampa Bay and tell me if you think those are any reflection of a good QB. If you think so, I surely don't want any QB you consider as good.

I'll give you Rich Gannon because he did make all-pro one of the years in Oakland. That said, I think it says a lot that Bill Callahan took the very same team that Gruden coached and got them to the Super Bowl.

it's easy to be a good coach when you got a stacked team, which is exactly what Gruden worked with in both locations. Also, who picked those players? We know good and damn well Al made the selections in Oakland and he inherited a stacked team in Tampa. We all saw what happened when McKay left for Atlanta and Chucky and Bruce were making the personnel calls.

That said, he's NOT the answer here. Not even close by a long shot.[/quote]



[url=http://www.nfl.com/player/bradjohnson/2501411/profile]Brad Johnson, QB at NFL.com[/url]

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[quote=NC_Skins;1043373]He got to the playoffs with one of the best defenses in NFL history and a power running game. I suggest you look at the stats of Brad Johnson during his tenure at Tampa Bay and tell me if you think those are any reflection of a good QB. If you think so, I surely don't want any QB you consider as good.

I'll give you Rich Gannon because he did make all-pro one of the years in Oakland. That said, I think it says a lot that Bill Callahan took the very same team that Gruden coached and got them to the Super Bowl.

it's easy to be a good coach when you got a stacked team, which is exactly what Gruden worked with in both locations. Also, who picked those players? We know good and damn well Al made the selections in Oakland and he inherited a stacked team in Tampa. We all saw what happened when McKay left for Atlanta and Chucky and Bruce were making the personnel calls.

That said, he's NOT the answer here. Not even close by a long shot.[/quote]



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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1043376][url=http://www.nfl.com/player/bradjohnson/2501411/profile]Brad Johnson, QB at NFL.com[/url][/quote]

SO one decent year in Tampa?

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We gone win because the cow jumped over the moon!!!

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Personally I wouldn't have a problem with Jon Gruden as HC, but if he wants total control over personnel as some have suggested, a big no thanks.

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Pass on Jon Gruden, rather have Jay Gruden. Brad Johnson certainly wasnt a bad QB, Id say an above average QB.

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Redskins had better win, my girlfriend is a Niners fan. I can't stomach the thought of her telling me "It's only a game" and "Maybe next year".

For the love of all that's unholy, let us win!