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[quote=skinsfaninok;1049414]This is the 3rd time Eli will lead the league in interceptions and all have been 20 plus , that's y he's never going to be elite[/quote]

Wasn't Giantone up here this summer talking about Eli > Peyton?.....lol

[QUOTE=NC_Skins;1049425]Wasn't Giantone up here this summer talking about Eli > Peyton?.....lol[/QUOTE]

Yes he was

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This hit was brutal. Not sure why it didn't draw a flag, but I'm almost certain he'll be seeing a fine next week.


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IMO Bruce Arians should be the COY again, 9-5 for Arizona?? That's amazing

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[quote=NC_Skins;1049429]This hit was brutal. Not sure why it didn't draw a flag, but I'm almost certain he'll be seeing a fine next week.


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Broke the punters jaw. Completely unnecessary. I hope he has to write a 6 digit check.

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I must say that I will never get enough of watching Romo's late 'anti' heroics in December. I don't care if the INTs were his fault, the receivers fault...no matter. I Friggin' LOVE IT!

HA HA HA!!!!

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[quote=Hijinx;1049440]Broke the punters jaw. Completely unnecessary. I hope he has to write a 6 digit check.[/quote]What got me was: open field, crown of the helmet right on the chin, standing up, right in front of where the runner was going. And no officials on the field saw it. I know they can't see everything but geez.

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I guess it's ok to light up a punter like that. If a QB got hit like that forget about it, flags all over the place and a hefty fine.

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[quote=Hijinx;1049440]Broke the punters jaw. Completely unnecessary. I hope he has to write a 6 digit check.[/quote]

Perfectly legal hit. The punter was going to the ball carrier.

[QUOTE=Mattyk;1049468]I guess it's ok to light up a punter like that. If a QB got hit like that forget about it, flags all over the place and a hefty fine.[/QUOTE]

Yep.

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Plenty of "legal" hits draw flags. If that was a WR getting blown up over the middle they would have ran out of flags to throw. A punter gets his jaw broken, which obviously means there was helmet contact to his chin area, and no flag?

5 teams that scored 30 points lost yesterday, first time ever

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1049474]5 teams that scored 30 points lost yesterday, first time ever[/quote]

You have been listening to the Mike and Mike show.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1049469]Perfectly legal hit. The punter was going to the ball carrier.[/quote]

Actually it wasn't a legal hit, the refs just didn't throw the flag on it. A missed call.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1049474]5 teams that scored 30 points lost yesterday, first time ever[/quote]

this is what the league wants

[QUOTE=firstdown;1049480]You have been listening to the Mike and Mike show.[/QUOTE]

Yes lol

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Thanks to Dallas, the press have more important thing to talk about than the Skins. Let Jera's boys take the crap this week.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1049469]Perfectly legal hit. The punter was going to the ball carrier.[/quote]

It totally wasn't a legal hit.

It looks as if he is launching himself against a player using the hairline of his helmet. That is against [I][I][U]rule 12, section 2, article 8[/U][/I][/I]. Plus punters and kickers are considered "defenseless players" at [B]all times[/B] following a kick/punt. So that means you can not lead with your helmet against them, unless they are carrying the ball. That is [U]rule 12, section 2, article 9. [/U]

Both rules fall under unnecessary roughness and should be a 15 yard penalty, plus the possibility of a fine.

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The defender squats down, squares the punter up and drills him. No launching what so ever. The punter was trying to tackle the defender. Good clean football to me. But I'm sure the NFL will think differently and fine the guy.

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[quote=Hijinx;1049559]It totally wasn't a legal hit.

It looks as if he is launching himself against a player using the hairline of his helmet. That is against [I][I][U]rule 12, section 2, article 8[/U][/I][/I]. Plus punters and kickers are considered "defenseless players" at [B]all times[/B] following a kick/punt. So that means you can not lead with your helmet against them, unless they are carrying the ball. That is [U]rule 12, section 2, article 9. [/U]

Both rules fall under unnecessary roughness and should be a 15 yard penalty, plus the possibility of a fine.[/quote]

Perhaps the punters and kickers should just do a sprint over to the sideline after they kick the ball. lol.

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[quote=Hijinx;1049559]It totally wasn't a legal hit.

It looks as if he is launching himself against a player using the hairline of his helmet. That is against [I][I][U]rule 12, section 2, article 8[/U][/I][/I]. Plus punters and kickers are considered "defenseless players" at [B]all times[/B] following a kick/punt. So that means you can not lead with your helmet against them, unless they are carrying the ball. That is [U]rule 12, section 2, article 9. [/U]

Both rules fall under unnecessary roughness and should be a 15 yard penalty, plus the possibility of a fine.[/quote]

But sometimes its not wise for them to carry the ball.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKgv6vX8_Js]JR Calls Sean Taylor Killing the Punter - YouTube[/ame]

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[quote=skinsfan69;1049563]The defender squats down, squares the punter up and drills him. No launching what so ever. The punter was trying to tackle the defender. Good clean football to me. But I'm sure the NFL will think differently and fine the guy.[/quote]

You can't see Gavin's feet in that clip, but the wider shot shows that both his feet leave the ground. How is that not launching?

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BTW, according to Chris Mortensen, the hit also cracked a vertebrae in Huber's neck. He is in IR right now.

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Illegal hit, no doubt. You don't get your jaw busted on a clean hit. He clearly hit him helmet to chin.

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Forget the technicalities. If the league is actually serous about safety...and not just the safety of the all-mighty QBs...then that type of hit cannot be allowed to happen. It's hypocrisy to allow it whether it was technically legal or not.

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[quote=Hijinx;1049587]You can't see Gavin's feet in that clip, but the wider shot shows that both his feet leave the ground. How is that not launching?[/quote]

I watched the replay and the defender clearly is in textbook position to make a clean block, which he did. Helmets are going to collide simply because of he nature of the sport and that's where the NFL can't seem to get it right. Intent... The defender leads with the shoulder and his helmet got under the chin a bit. That's going to happen but there's no intent. Clean play IMO. Now some of the Merriweather hits? Where he's clearly launching himself and leading with the crown? Different story.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1049599]I watched the replay and the defender clearly is in textbook position to make a clean block, which he did. Helmets are going to collide simply because of he nature of the sport and that's where the NFL can't seem to get it right. Intent... [B][U]The defender leads with the shoulder [/U][/B]and his helmet got under the chin a bit. That's going to happen but there's no intent. Clean play IMO. Now some of the Merriweather hits? Where he's clearly launching himself and leading with the crown? Different story.[/quote]Bold mine.

SF69, does this look like "leads with the shoulder" to you? If so, which shoulder are you saying the steeler led with? LOL.
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And if that's "under the chin a little bit", good lord we'd need a guillotine for "a lot" wouldn't we?

(Tx to NCSkins for the pic.)

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Come on Hailgreen, he led with the shoulder on the crown of his helmet. Duh.

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I hope Detroit gets this offense started soon. F Baltimore.

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Refs hate detroit more than the skins.

Stafford isn't very accurate

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[quote=HailGreen28;1049644]Bold mine.

SF69, does this look like "leads with the shoulder" to you? If so, which shoulder are you saying the steeler led with? LOL.
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And if that's "under the chin a little bit", good lord we'd need a guillotine for "a lot" wouldn't we?

(Tx to NCSkins for the pic.)[/quote]

On pti they said he had a broken jaw and a broken vertebrae. And he got up and ran off the field. Jeeeeze and how long has Jordan Reed been out??

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These refs are so bad. What a bunch of taints.

Ravens win this one

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If the Ravens could score TDs instead of FGs, they would be dangerous. Of course it is nice for them Tucker is automatic.

Ravens still have a Damn good d

Damn tucker is cold.

Stafford holds this team back

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Fn baltimore.

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Justin Tucker is the man. Booting a 60 yard FG to win the game. In a dome no doubt.

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Stafford's throws are all over the place. Throws too high way too often for my liking.