I'd pass on spags, he was good with a ton of.talent but then he sucked

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What do you think that Gruden's comments about Kaep say about how much he would like to coach RG3?

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/01/07/report-mike-brown-liked-kaepernick-jay-gruden-wanted-dalton/]Report: Mike Brown liked Kaepernick, Jay Gruden wanted Dalton | ProFootballTalk[/url]

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[quote=Skinsfanatic;1053895]What do you think that Gruden's comments about Kaep say about how much he would like to coach RG3?

[URL="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/01/07/report-mike-brown-liked-kaepernick-jay-gruden-wanted-dalton/"]Report: Mike Brown liked Kaepernick, Jay Gruden wanted Dalton | ProFootballTalk[/URL][/quote]

Hindsight is 20/20!

[QUOTE=Skinsfanatic;1053895]What do you think that Gruden's comments about Kaep say about how much he would like to coach RG3?

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/01/07/report-mike-brown-liked-kaepernick-jay-gruden-wanted-dalton/]Report: Mike Brown liked Kaepernick, Jay Gruden wanted Dalton | ProFootballTalk[/url][/QUOTE]

Griffin is ten times better than Dalton

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1053897]Griffin is ten times better than Dalton[/quote]

I totally agree, but that isn't the question. Gruden didn't think that Kaep fit his system, so will he have reservations about RG3?

I am not at all suggesting he wouldn't get over it by the way.

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[quote=Skinsfanatic;1053895]What do you think that Gruden's comments about Kaep say about how much he would like to coach RG3?

[URL="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/01/07/report-mike-brown-liked-kaepernick-jay-gruden-wanted-dalton/"]Report: Mike Brown liked Kaepernick, Jay Gruden wanted Dalton | ProFootballTalk[/URL][/quote]

Gruden is going to want a Cousins type of QB. He's going to want to guy that will run the offense over someone of would tends to want improvise. Now sure how that's going to play out with Snyder. lol.

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Who wouldn't want to coach a mobile QB that can also throw?

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[quote=Mattyk;1053900]Who wouldn't want to coach a mobile QB that can also throw?[/quote]

I can't tell if you are being sarcastic here. I agree your statement, but the fact is that some people get stuck with "their way" and "their prototype". That is why I prefer Bevelll to Gruden. He runs a system that fits our offensive weapons perfectly.

[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1053899]Gruden is going to want a Cousins type of QB. He's going to want to guy that will run the offense over someone of would tends to want improvise. Now sure how that's going to play out with Snyder. lol.[/QUOTE]

Well then he won't be the HC if that's the case, Griffin isn't going anywhere

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So Gruden is going to want to stick with another Dalton type of QB? Decent/good arm, limited mobility, throws too many picks.

Yeah something tells me he might be eager to get away from that type.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1053899]Gruden is going to want a Cousins type of QB. He's going to want to guy that will run the offense over someone of would tends to want improvise. Now sure how that's going to play out with Snyder. lol.[/quote]

What other type of players did Gruden tell you he wanted? I think Gruden will want Rex to start, he likes QB's that have the ability to throw 3+ ints in a game. lol

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[quote=Skinsfanatic;1053895]What do you think that Gruden's comments about Kaep say about how much he would like to coach RG3?

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/01/07/report-mike-brown-liked-kaepernick-jay-gruden-wanted-dalton/]Report: Mike Brown liked Kaepernick, Jay Gruden wanted Dalton | ProFootballTalk[/url][/quote]

First, Jay Gruden is interviewing with the Redskins on Wednesday (just to get that out of the way)

Second, Mike Brown is changing his story up it seems because in 2011 the guy he was pushing for was Ryan Mallett, not Kaepernick

Third, Jon Gruden is the one who really likes Cousins. Not Jay

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[quote=Mattyk;1053900]Who wouldn't want to coach a mobile QB that can also throw?[/quote]

Well being able to "throw" isn't about being a good QB. My concern is that because RG3 is not "pro ready" he'll be impatient and want a guy that fits his system better. Just something to look out for. I'm sure Jay and Jon share opinions.

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[quote=Mattyk;1053903]So Gruden is going to want to stick with another Dalton type of QB? Decent/good arm, limited mobility, throws too many picks.

Yeah something tells me he's eager to get away from that type.[/quote]

Right, but the question is: Will Gruden have RG3 on a short leash? Will he look to bring in someone more his "type" as a challenger to RG3?

I just want someone (here again, Bevell) who is going to come in embracing what we have and already having a system in place to take advantage of our talent.

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I think we're getting a little ahead of things. Gruden hasn't even interviewed, and we really don't know what his plan would be.

I can say this though, I'm fairly certain a big part of the interview process involves what the plan is going to be to develop Griffin and get the most out of him.

I just hope we don't hire him

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[quote=Skinsfanatic;1053901]I can't tell if you are being sarcastic here. I agree your statement, but the fact is that some people get stuck with "their way" and "their prototype". That is why I prefer Bevelll to Gruden. He runs a system that fits our offensive weapons perfectly.[/quote]

I think we will be greatly disappointed if we hire Bevell. He went from fired in 2011 to our franchise savior as a coach in 2014? I really don't get the fascination with him.

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How about Jimbo Fisher? He's a great HC, and Snyder needs to give him an offer he won't refuse. Florida State has a good offense led by a great quarterback, and a great defense. Fisher is good with quarterbacks, has won two national championships, and is fairly young.

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Its gonna be Jay Gruden.

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[quote=irish;1053921]Its gonna be Jay Gruden.[/quote]

With all of the Tampa Bay connections still here it's pretty obvious. I think it comes down to whether or not he wants to come coach this soap opera.

[QUOTE=SirLK26;1053916]How about Jimbo Fisher? He's a great HC, and Snyder needs to give him an offer he won't refuse. Florida State has a good offense led by a great quarterback, and a great defense. Fisher is good with quarterbacks, has won two national championships, and is fairly young.[/QUOTE]

No way that would happen

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[quote=Paintrain;1053913]I think we will be greatly disappointed if we hire Bevell. He went from fired in 2011 to our franchise savior as a coach in 2014? I really don't get the fascination with him.[/quote]

Bevell was a fall guy for Frasier. You see how long he was out of work, right?

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[quote=Skinsfanatic;1053936]Bevell was a fall guy for Frasier. You see how long he was out of work, right?[/quote]
He was let go after the Childress season by Frazier. I think he's a decent coordinator but nothing about him screams head coach to me.

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[quote=Paintrain;1053941]He was let go after the Childress season by Frazier. I think he's a decent coordinator but nothing about him screams head coach to me.[/quote]

You are right, maybe I didn't make my position clear. Frasier came in as the interim, went 3-3, and as part of his staying on full time he replaced Bevell with Musgrave. New coaches want their own guy a lot of the time, and I think that was the case here.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1053922]With all of the Tampa Bay connections still here it's pretty obvious. I think it comes down to whether or not he wants to come coach this soap opera.[/quote]

I heard Jaws say that the Grudens and Bruce Allen are good friends which really makes me think it will happen.

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I'm actually a bit surprised I am not the only James Franklin vote.

Honestly, I'd be fine with 2/3 of this list. The no one will take this job arguments are a bit silly.

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[quote=GTripp0012;1053957]I'm actually a bit surprised I am not the only James Franklin vote.

Honestly, I'd be fine with 2/3 of this list. The no one will take this job arguments are a bit silly.[/quote]

Out of those choices, best offensive system for RG3?

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I chose McDermott for the soul reason that it is high time we try a defensive minded head coach. We have tried every type of offensive coach possible but barring a 1 year stint by Pettibon I cannot remember the Redskins ever having a defensive HC. It is time.

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[quote=Skinsfanatic;1053942]You are right, maybe I didn't make my position clear. Frasier came in as the interim, went 3-3, and as part of his staying on full time he replaced Bevell with Musgrave. New coaches want their own guy a lot of the time, and I think that was the case here.[/quote]

Bevell and Childress go way back though, to when DB was a freshman in college

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[quote=81forHOF;1053961]I chose McDermott for the soul reason that it is high time we try a defensive minded head coach. We have tried every type of offensive coach possible but barring a 1 year stint by Pettibon I cannot remember the Redskins ever having a defensive HC. It is time.[/quote]

Marty

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[quote=Chico23231;1053958]Out of those choices, best offensive system for RG3?[/quote]Probably Whisenhunt or Franklin from a schematic perspective, but Whisenhunt was such a poor decision maker with Arizona. I'm not sure how much I want him making the calls for Griffin.

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[quote=81forHOF;1053961]I chose McDermott for the soul reason that it is high time we try a defensive minded head coach. We have tried every type of offensive coach possible but barring a 1 year stint by Pettibon I cannot remember the Redskins ever having a defensive HC. It is time.[/quote]

Fair enough. But for years we had a solid defense and it was the offense that needed help. Shanahan changed that equation because bad defenses follow him like dogs follow a butcher at work.

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There was drama back then too, good read:

[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc-sports-bog/wp/2014/01/07/the-gibbs-coaching-search/]The Gibbs coaching search[/url]

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[quote=GTripp0012;1053968]Probably Whisenhunt or Franklin from a schematic perspective, but Whisenhunt was such a poor decision maker with Arizona. I'm not sure how much I want him making the calls for Griffin.[/quote]

Whisenhunt sucks

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I'm surprised Fangio doesn't have a single vote.

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[quote=GTripp0012;1053974]I'm surprised Fangio doesn't have a single vote.[/quote]

He has SO much talent on that side of the ball it's hard for me to determine if it's him or them. He's an NFL lifer, with the exception of his Stanford years. If he's HC material, why hasn't he been tapped before his recent success is my concern with him.

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[quote=Paintrain;1053976]He has SO much talent on that side of the ball it's hard for me to determine if it's him or them. He's an NFL lifer, with the exception of his Stanford years. If he's HC material, why hasn't he been tapped before his recent success is my concern with him.[/quote]Well, it for sure is the talent, but he's not doing a dime a dozen job with that unit. I know he can't take that talent with him. It be cool if he could.

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The fundamental issue with the "defense or special teams minded HC, paired with a strong OC" is that when you go that route, it's the offensive coordinator that gets thrown to the wolves to save the HC if the playoffs don't happen in year one or two. And the strong OC desire doesn't change that reality.

If the DC gets thrown out after a year or two, you can live with that. Coaching on that side of the ball is pretty fungible. Like, who are the great defensive coordinators in the league? Zimmer...and who, exactly.

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[quote=GTripp0012;1053974]I'm surprised Fangio doesn't have a single vote.[/quote]

I might have voted for him but when I voted he was not part of the poll. Maybe he benefits overmuch from considerable talent but his defenses are always top-notch.

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[url=http://coachingsearch.com/article?a=Vanderbilt-coordinators-begin-following-Penn-State-recruits-on-twitter]Vanderbilt coordinators begin following Penn State recruits on twitter[/url]

interesting on the Franklin front