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Bushead 08-30-2014 01:39 PM

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When's the last time you heard of someone not clearing waivers to go to the practice squad? I mean tell me. It is something that rarely. Happens.

MTK 08-30-2014 02:03 PM

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[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;1079660]so just saw that Eric Winston was released. This makes his 3rd or 4th team since Houston right? What happened around him? He was supposedly really good, which brings me to the question - I have always been against him mainly from a he's not worth what you would have to pay him, but at this point it seems like he would come at a reasonable price, is there any chance we get him? Is he done?



He's got to be at least as good as Polumbus, and one would think a bit better.[/QUOTE]


He was never that great to begin with.

CRedskinsRule 08-30-2014 02:19 PM

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[quote=Mattyk;1079662]He was never that great to begin with.[/quote]

Yeah, I was never a big fan, but man was he a player that ALWAYS got his mentions here. Figured he needed them one more time.

Hog1 08-30-2014 02:55 PM

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love that Clifton Geathers.....
"Uncle....Jumpy is going crazy right now"!
To cool

MTK 08-30-2014 02:56 PM

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[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;1079663]Yeah, I was never a big fan, but man was he a player that ALWAYS got his mentions here. Figured he needed them one more time.[/QUOTE]


Yeah he's definitely a legend in these parts.

MTK 08-30-2014 03:09 PM

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[QUOTE=EARTHQUAKE2689;1079648]Phillip Thomas is a surprise, also the fact that neither Thompson nor Seastrunk made it was surprising, but I gotta tip my hand to Silas Redd, he really looked like our 2nd best RB all pre-season.[/QUOTE]


Redd was my pick for our preseason hero. I thought he had a legit shot coming in and he definitely proved himself.

Counter-Tre 08-30-2014 03:59 PM

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Awww man, I'm bummed. Seastrunk was released. I liked that guy. Chris Thompson is gone too.

Meks 08-30-2014 04:13 PM

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Cant believe seastrunk ...

warpaint 08-30-2014 04:29 PM

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Champ got cut maybe we bring him back?

EARTHQUAKE2689 08-30-2014 05:50 PM

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Robert Lester cut by Carolina, could be a name to look at.

Meks 08-30-2014 06:11 PM

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Rams cut michael sam... kinda surprised... what do yall think of him??

Irrefutable 08-30-2014 06:58 PM

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safety Major Wright was cut, he had 101 tackles, and 2 interceptions last year

What does anyone think of him ?

DynamiteRave 08-30-2014 07:17 PM

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Sam's average. I think we're set at LB anyway.

KI Skins Fan 08-30-2014 07:21 PM

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I read that both Lester and Wright were dealing with injuries. Lester has/had an ACL sprain and Wright has/had a back injury. Wright missed almost the entire preseason.

They are both young players with good size. That's all I know about them.

EARTHQUAKE2689 08-30-2014 07:33 PM

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[quote=Meks;1079675]Rams cut michael sam... kinda surprised... what do yall think of him??[/quote]

I think he was a long shot anyways with the Rams having such a stacked DE rotation.

EARTHQUAKE2689 08-30-2014 07:35 PM

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[quote=Bushead;1079661]When's the last time you heard of someone not clearing waivers to go to the practice squad? I mean tell me. It is something that rarely. Happens.[/quote]

Tyler Gaffney this season.

Hog1 08-30-2014 08:51 PM

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[quote=warpaint;1079671]Champ got cut maybe we bring him back?[/quote]
What is he...like 53
with a $40m deal?

REDSKINS4ever 08-30-2014 09:43 PM

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I was very surprised by the release of Zach Hocker. He clearly outperformed Kai Forbath. Not to mention Hocker bested Forbath on kickoffs, sending the majority of them to the rear of the endzone. I hope they sign Hocker to the practice squad.

skins89moss 08-30-2014 09:59 PM

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1079616]I wish all of them well. If the Skins cut Seastrunk I'm filing a fan grievance.[/quote]

Well start filing your grievance bro. I'm kinda surprised they didn't keep him. Silas Redd did look nice.

skins89moss 08-30-2014 10:08 PM

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I didn't see Phillip Thomas name on the final roster cuts. Has this been verified that he was cut. I think losing Brandon M. for 2 games came in play for Akeem Davis making the roster. Davis does appear to be a good special teams player. I hope we can bring back Chris Thompson and Lache Seastrunk to the PS. Also maybe they put Crawford and Hocker on PS.

REDSKINS4ever 08-30-2014 10:16 PM

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Phillip Thomas was cut.

mooby 08-30-2014 11:02 PM

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[quote=REDSKINS4ever;1079686]I was very surprised by the release of Zach Hocker. He clearly outperformed Kai Forbath. Not to mention Hocker bested Forbath on kickoffs, sending the majority of them to the rear of the endzone. I hope they sign Hocker to the practice squad.[/quote]

Define "clearly outperformed."

NC_Skins 08-30-2014 11:02 PM

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[quote=REDSKINS4ever;1079686]I was very surprised by the release of Zach Hocker. He clearly outperformed Kai Forbath. Not to mention Hocker bested Forbath on kickoffs, sending the majority of them to the rear of the endzone. I hope they sign Hocker to the practice squad.[/quote]

Me either. It's not like Forbath didn't fuck up a ton the first pre-season game. I think his short kickoffs lead to our STs getting exposed.

KI Skins Fan 08-30-2014 11:24 PM

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[quote=skins89moss;1079688]Well start filing your grievance bro. I'm kinda surprised they didn't keep him. Silas Redd did look nice.[/quote]

Redd earned his job. If Lache makes it through to the PS, all will be forgiven.

REDSKINS4ever 08-30-2014 11:53 PM

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[quote=mooby;1079692]Define "clearly outperformed."[/quote]

Not to get off topic. But Forbath too missed a field goal in the first preseason game. Hocker sent his kickoffs for touchbacks during the majority of his kickoffs and Forbath failed in this area. If they are going to draft a kicker who is #1 accurate, #2 has a stronger leg than the kicker they want him to push, then why not just send the other kicker his walking papers?Forbath won't be what he was two years ago....Hocker is the better kicker of the two....Hocker even showed that he could hit on special teams....DEFINED.

KI Skins Fan 08-31-2014 08:11 AM

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With he expanded PS, Hocker might go there and continue to work and learn. Then, he would be readily available if needed. That is the best scenario I can think of at this point unless they bring in a vet PK who was cut by another team.

Count me among those who believe that Forbath's poor kickoffs are going to hurt us this season. If the Skins can sign an accurate PK with a strong enough leg to virtually eliminate the threat of kickoff returns against them, I hope they'll do it.

spAtt 08-31-2014 09:43 AM

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[quote=REDSKINS4ever;1079697]Not to get off topic. But Forbath too missed a field goal in the first preseason game. Hocker sent his kickoffs for touchbacks during the majority of his kickoffs and Forbath failed in this area. If they are going to draft a kicker who is #1 accurate, #2 has a stronger leg than the kicker they want him to push, then why not just send the other kicker his walking papers?Forbath won't be what he was two years ago....Hocker is the better kicker of the two....Hocker even showed that he could hit on special teams....DEFINED.[/quote]

I heard he missed quite a few kicks in practice according to Chris Russell.

skinsfan69 08-31-2014 09:51 AM

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I think the coaches probably didn't want to go into the season with a rookie kicker. Forbath makes most of his field goals and to me that's what's most important, not the kickoffs.

SirLK26 08-31-2014 09:57 AM

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I feel much better going into the season with Forbath than Hocker. We've all seen his expertise on field goals, and it's great that we still have a guy that can come out and nail them reliably. And perhaps an improved coverage unit will help mask his poor kickoffs.

MTK 08-31-2014 10:07 AM

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Problem with Hocker is he wasn't all that accurate in college. To win the job he needed to have a perfect summer and he didn't. Tie goes to the vet.

Chico23231 08-31-2014 11:06 AM

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When do we start hearing about practice squad and waiver claims?

KI Skins Fan 08-31-2014 11:10 AM

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[quote=skinsfan69;1079704]I think the coaches probably didn't want to go into the season with a rookie kicker. Forbath makes most of his field goals and to me that's what's most important, not the kickoffs.[/quote]

It's not necessarily a matter of choosing between two individuals each of whom has his weaknesses. The job description is to have [U]both[/U] FG accuracy and kickoffs that aren't returnable. The Skins should not just surrender any advantage to our opponents. They need to keep looking for a PK who can do both.

Forbath should be viewed as our interim PK, as far as I'm concerned. I'm fine with his FG accuracy but that's only part of the job. His KO's are substandard. We can and should do better.

Kickers kick forever, so Mr. Right Kicker for Us might be 40 years old and working as a bartender right now. I don't care where they find him. They just need to find him.

MTK 08-31-2014 11:29 AM

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Forbath has improved his KO distance since last year, hopefully he can continue to improve in that area. He didn't kickoff in college so he's still a work in progress in that area.

Mike Jones ‏@MikeJonesWaPo Aug 30
Forbath averaged 66.4 yards per kickoff attempt this preseason. 60.2 and 63.2 previous years. Never did it in college.

mooby 08-31-2014 12:11 PM

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[quote=REDSKINS4ever;1079697]Not to get off topic. But Forbath too missed a field goal in the first preseason game. Hocker sent his kickoffs for touchbacks during the majority of his kickoffs and Forbath failed in this area. If they are going to draft a kicker who is #1 accurate, #2 has a stronger leg than the kicker they want him to push, then why not just send the other kicker his walking papers?Forbath won't be what he was two years ago....Hocker is the better kicker of the two....Hocker even showed that he could hit on special teams....DEFINED.[/quote]

Did you watch this guy every day in practice? Did you see his habits, and every field goal and kickoff he attempted in front of the coaches? I'm just going to go ahead and assume you didn't. Which is why I'll trust their opinion over yours.

CRedskinsRule 08-31-2014 12:18 PM

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In some future years extra points might be 30yarders and kickoffs eliminated. I like Forbaths accuracy,and if that means the rest of the special teams squad has to hit and stop guys, so be it. If our kickoff teams actually stop guys maybe we can hold them inside the 20 and render the touchbacks moot.

Irrefutable 08-31-2014 12:28 PM

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[quote=Chico23231;1079709]When do we start hearing about practice squad and waiver claims?[/quote]

Redskins make no waiver claims, and Bolser to the practice squad

JoeRedskin 08-31-2014 12:49 PM

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[QUOTE=Mattyk;1079714]Forbath has improved his KO distance since last year, hopefully he can continue to improve in that area. He didn't kickoff in college so he's still a work in progress in that area.

Mike Jones ‏@MikeJonesWaPo Aug 30
Forbath averaged 66.4 yards per kickoff attempt this preseason. 60.2 and 63.2 previous years. Never did it in college.[/QUOTE]

Much rather have the accurate guy and hope he develops leg strength than the strong leg guy and hope he develops accuracy. Also, didn't realize Forbath didn't do kick-offs in college.

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KI Skins Fan 08-31-2014 01:12 PM

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[quote=Mattyk;1079714]Forbath has improved his KO distance since last year, hopefully he can continue to improve in that area. He didn't kickoff in college so he's still a work in progress in that area.

Mike Jones ‏@MikeJonesWaPo Aug 30
Forbath averaged 66.4 yards per kickoff attempt this preseason. 60.2 and 63.2 previous years. Never did it in college.[/quote]

Good to hear. We may be OK, then.

JoLo 08-31-2014 01:33 PM

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I think we claimed Duke Ihenacho from Denver. He was cut probably cause of the TJ Ward signing. I think he could be a huge pickup for us. Good in the box safety

Irrefutable 08-31-2014 01:42 PM

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[quote=JoLo;1079734]I think we claimed Duke Ihenacho from Denver. He was cut probably cause of the TJ Ward signing. I think he could be a huge pickup for us. Good in the box safety[/quote]

[url=http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/7717/duke-ihenacho]Duke Ihenacho - Washington Redskins - 2014 Player Profile - Rotoworld.com[/url]


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