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punch it in 09-10-2014 11:00 AM

Re: Week 1 Positives and Negatives
 
[QUOTE=EARTHQUAKE2689;1081547]Now that everyone has had about 24 hours to get that sour taste out of their mouth, I figured pointing out some positives and negatives from the game would help us move on to Week 2 and the Jags:



[B][I][U]Positives[/U][/I][/B]



-Keenan Robinson- He looks like a stud, reminds me of Bobby Wagner from Seattle, the way he can run sideline to sideline, cover, and swarms to the ball.



-Ryan Kerrigan- Forcing that turnover when we HAD to have it, I have said this since his rookie season that I thought he was the better all-around player than Orakpo, even though Rak is the better pure pass rusher.



-Alfred Morris- The butler is a hoss, I think we can put to bed the "system back" thing, if w haven't already.



-Run Blocking- Is it me or does it look like we have a top 3 line when running the ball.



-Andre Roberts- Feels nice to have a return man after all this time, his adjustment to catch that pass from Griffin in the first where he was robbed of the catch was awesome.



-Defense- The defense looked great outside of 1 play, Hatcher looks like a great pickup and Barry Cofield looks like a top 5 NT.



[B][I][U]Negatives[/U][/I][/B]



-Pass Blocking- I have never seen an O-line so night and day when it comes to pass blocking vs. run blocking



-Turnovers- Can't win games giving up the ball in the red zone.



-Special Teams mistakes- Chris Chester and Roy Helu, that has to be the worst efforts in blocking I have ever seen.



-Robert Griffin III- He doesn't trust his line in pass blocking and rightfully so, but he also looks scared to explode and get to the edges, I don't know what is wrong with him mentally, but we need him to get that back.



-Niles Paul- You are running into the endzone and get stripped from behind on a last ditch tackle that you broke, then say "I guess I have to hold it high anf tight." You guess?????



-The Center position- When was the last time we had a center that didn't get blown up off the ball at least 4 times a game? I think Rabach in 2005.



-Playcalling- I just wish we would have ran the ball a bit more.[/QUOTE]


Pretty much covered it all. Our punter was better than Sav too.

MTK 09-10-2014 11:27 AM

Re: Week 1 Positives and Negatives
 
[url=http://m.espn.go.com/general/blogs/blogpost?blogname=washington-redskins&id=10791&src=desktop&rand=ref~%7B%22ref%22%3A%22http%3A%2F%2Ft.co%2FKgM2tem7J4%22%7D]NFL Redskins review, Week 1: Offense - ESPN[/url]

Ruhskins 09-10-2014 04:58 PM

Re: Week 1 Positives and Negatives
 
[quote=Mattyk;1081978][url=http://m.espn.go.com/general/blogs/blogpost?blogname=washington-redskins&id=10791&src=desktop&rand=ref~%7B%22ref%22%3A%22http%3A%2F%2Ft.co%2FKgM2tem7J4%22%7D]NFL Redskins review, Week 1: Offense - ESPN[/url][/quote]

I really like Keim, glad he's covering us on ESPN. I thought this was key: "Despite what he did, the Redskins could have won by holding onto the ball inside the 10 or by executing a simple block on a punt."

NC_Skins 09-10-2014 11:35 PM

Re: Week 1 Positives and Negatives
 
Here is some good breakdown on the passing game against Houston.

[url]https://twitter.com/MarkBullockNFL/media[/url]


Go to the first Texans/Redskins pic and thumb through them in reverse order.

KI Skins Fan 09-12-2014 08:53 AM

Re: Week 1 Positives and Negatives
 
Jim Haslett on Bacarri Rambo's play in Game 1:

"He played 54 plays and had two bad plays," Haslestt said. "One happened to be a bad, bad play. It’s unfortunate, because the 52 other plays were darn good ... Eliminate that one from the game and you’d say he played a pretty good game."

Me to Haslett: Give up, Haslett. I'm not buying what you're selling. Rambo is going to take bad angles, miss tackles and give up big plays for as long as you continue to play him. BTW, eliminate one nuclear bomb and it would have been a nice day in Hiroshima.

CRedskinsRule 09-12-2014 09:01 AM

Re: Week 1 Positives and Negatives
 
KI do you give any slack to Rambo since it was Hall who had the blown assignment? Or is it all on Rambo?

Chico23231 09-12-2014 09:28 AM

Re: Week 1 Positives and Negatives
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;1082209]KI do you give any slack to Rambo since it was Hall who had the blown assignment? Or is it all on Rambo?[/quote]

Rambo has to make that tackle.

Lotus 09-12-2014 09:54 AM

Re: Week 1 Positives and Negatives
 
[quote=Chico23231;1082212]Rambo has to make that tackle.[/quote]

Very true...although Rambo doesn't have to make the tackle if Hall doesn't blow the coverage.

Ruhskins 09-12-2014 09:54 AM

Re: Week 1 Positives and Negatives
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;1082209]KI do you give any slack to Rambo since it was Hall who had the blown assignment? Or is it all on Rambo?[/quote]

Probably both. In hindsight, if the offense does its business, this missed play by a defense that played well for the majority of the game is not even on our radar.

As I said many times, we don't have a defense like Seattle, which can carry the whole team through a game.

KI Skins Fan 09-12-2014 09:55 AM

Re: Week 1 Positives and Negatives
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;1082209]KI do you give any slack to Rambo since it was Hall who had the blown assignment? Or is it all on Rambo?[/quote]

He can't tackle in the open field which makes him useless as a safety. That stands alone, regardless of what anybody else does on any given play. So, no I don't.

CRedskinsRule 09-12-2014 10:49 AM

Re: Week 1 Positives and Negatives
 
[quote=KI Skins Fan;1082219]He can't tackle in the open field which makes him useless as a safety. That stands alone, regardless of what anybody else does on any given play. So, no I don't.[/quote]

ok. So he made no open field tackles in the preseason/week 1? He's doomed forever, and can't be a 2nd year FS who is playing SS because of a guy's suspension.

Got it.

#NoSlack

Defensewins 09-12-2014 10:54 AM

Re: Week 1 Positives and Negatives
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;1082209]KI do you give any slack to Rambo since it was Hall who had the blown assignment? Or is it all on Rambo?[/quote]

No slack. Rambo was in position to make the tackle and yet again showed terrible technique. I have been hearing more and more about how Seattle players are all trained in the rugby technique in tackling. Aiming for the hips or lower and WRAPPING your arms around the ball carrier. Even if you do not bring him down, you slow him down so your help has time to arrive. What Rambo did on that play was incredibly bad technique. This is a major issue. You can teach a player proper technique, but when instinct takes in the heat of battle, you have to have the discipline to stay in control. Rambo loses his control for some reason.

MTK 09-12-2014 10:58 AM

Re: Week 1 Positives and Negatives
 
[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;1082222]ok. So he made no open field tackles in the preseason/week 1? He's doomed forever, and can't be a 2nd year FS who is playing SS because of a guy's suspension.



Got it.



#NoSlack[/QUOTE]


Cut him now

SirLK26 09-12-2014 11:51 AM

Re: Week 1 Positives and Negatives
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;1082209]KI do you give any slack to Rambo since it was Hall who had the blown assignment? Or is it all on Rambo?[/quote]

So it was for sure Hall who had the blown assignment? I don't remember the play very well, but I thought Hopkins came out of the slot?

Chico23231 09-12-2014 11:54 AM

Re: Week 1 Positives and Negatives
 
[quote=SirLK26;1082234]So it was for sure Hall who had the blown assignment? I don't remember the play very well, but I thought Hopkins came out of the slot?[/quote]

the coverage was blown but not by Rambo. I think it was Keim who said Rambo had it right, his job was to play the ball. Apparently, D Hall was lined up on the wrong side of the field.

KI Skins Fan 09-12-2014 11:57 AM

Re: Week 1 Positives and Negatives
 
[quote=Mattyk;1082225]Cut him now[/quote]
Fine by me. You're mocking what I said now but, believe me, you haven't seen the last of this guy's poor tackling.

Anybody here remember former Redskins FS Stanley Richard? He was a poor tackler who never got any better. Richard nicknamed himself "The Sheriff" but the fans called him "Deputy Barney Fife". He was also known as "Speed Bump" to some of his teammates. Compared to what Richard was called, I'm being nice.

MTK 09-12-2014 12:00 PM

Re: Week 1 Positives and Negatives
 
[QUOTE=KI Skins Fan;1082237]Fine by me. You're mocking what I said now but, believe me, you haven't seen the last of this guy's poor tackling.



Anybody here remember Stanley Richard? He never got any better at tackling. Richard nicknamed himself "The Sheriff" but the fans called him "Deputy Barney Fife". He was also known as "Speed Bump" to some of his teammates. Compared to that, I'm being nice.[/QUOTE]


A little premature to write him off I think.

I know everyone expects instant Pro Bowlers but more often than not players need time and experience.

SmootSmack 09-12-2014 12:05 PM

Re: Week 1 Positives and Negatives
 
I think there's a reason he fell to the 6th round. If he wasn't an SEC guy, and honestly probably also if his name wasn't Rambo, I'm not sure our expectations of him would be so high.

The problem I have with Rambo is that he would ideally be a guy and ease him into the lineup. But he doesn't play special teams, or at least he doesn't play them well. So who knows what his true value is.

Lotus 09-12-2014 12:09 PM

Re: Week 1 Positives and Negatives
 
[quote=SirLK26;1082234]So it was for sure Hall who had the blown assignment? I don't remember the play very well, but I thought Hopkins came out of the slot?[/quote]

If you watch the play, you will see that Hall does not line up on the right side, where he should be (we don't have corners swap sides this year). Then, as the play develops, he just hangs around and never covers anyone.

Hall is the culprit.

MTK 09-12-2014 12:19 PM

Re: Week 1 Positives and Negatives
 
The main thing I take issue with Rambo on his whiffed tackle was how he just jogged after the receiver. Would like to see some more hustle on a play like that.

skinsfan69 09-12-2014 12:39 PM

Re: Week 1 Positives and Negatives
 
Dude is a safety. You're last line of defense. Make the tackle. Just not a fan of Rambo and if we had any kind of depth at that position he wouldn't be on the team. Time for some Nachos!

SirLK26 09-12-2014 12:58 PM

Re: Week 1 Positives and Negatives
 
[quote=Lotus;1082242]If you watch the play, you will see that Hall does not line up on the right side, where he should be (we don't have corners swap sides this year). Then, as the play develops, he just hangs around and never covers anyone.

Hall is the culprit.[/quote]

Ah, okay. Thanks.

CRedskinsRule 09-12-2014 01:11 PM

Re: Week 1 Positives and Negatives
 
[quote=skinsfan69;1082245]Dude is a safety. You're last line of defense. Make the tackle. Just not a fan of Rambo and if we had any kind of depth at that position he wouldn't be on the team. Time for some Nachos![/quote]

I tend to think Rambo is the type of safety that should be depth. the only question I have is why doesn't he play ST? There would be lots of opportunities for tackling practice there! Which is also a bit worrisome, because unless your a stud safety you would think they would be a natural ST add on.

over the mountain 09-12-2014 01:11 PM

Re: Week 1 Positives and Negatives
 
i see rambo's ceiling being a depth guy .. who doesnt play specials.

his natural position is FS? from what little I have seen he reads and reacts late and doesnt do a great job of tracking the ball in the air. ..... yeesh. i thought for sure he was more a SS.

on that long TD he sd he lost tracking on the player bc he was staring into the backfield. he looked like a person driving and texting ... just drifting away while he was distracted only paying attention to the QB.

but i dont blame rambo. he is what he is. he is only doing what is asked of him .. which is more than should be asked of him.

itd be great if we found some hidden 6th round guys to develop into solid starters but that is the exception not the norm .. rambo isnt showing flashes and thomas cant stay on the field.

CrustyRedskin 09-12-2014 01:41 PM

Re: Week 1 Positives and Negatives
 
Covey leader to Raven over......

Skinzman 09-12-2014 01:59 PM

Re: Week 1 Positives and Negatives
 
The funny thing about this whole Rambo conversation is that a lot of people here, and other skins fans in general, wanted to take Rambo in the 2nd or 3rd round. Some were freaking out when we got him in the 6th. I think a lot are remembering the "draft experts" having him a lot higher than the 6th round so still grade him out as if he went that high.

NC_Skins 09-12-2014 02:37 PM

Re: Week 1 Positives and Negatives
 
[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/football-insider/wp/2014/09/10/jason-hatcher-looks-like-everything-redskins-hoped-he-would-be/]Jason Hatcher looks like everything Redskins hoped he would be[/url]


Let's talk about some Hatcher and the job he's doing.

SirLK26 09-12-2014 02:46 PM

Re: Week 1 Positives and Negatives
 
He was a poor man's Watt in the Houston game. Got tired too quickly, but he's obviously a huge help when fresh. Honestly I wasn't expecting a lot out of him at age 32, so I'm quite pleased. Just sucks that his sack was taken away.

44Deezel 09-12-2014 10:09 PM

Re: Week 1 Positives and Negatives
 
[quote=Skinzman;1082260]The funny thing about this whole Rambo conversation is that a lot of people here, and other skins fans in general, wanted to take Rambo in the 2nd or 3rd round. Some were freaking out when we got him in the 6th. I think a lot are remembering the "draft experts" having him a lot higher than the 6th round so still grade him out as if he went that high.[/quote]

Fitz had all day to throw on that play. Where was the pass rush?

SirLK26 09-13-2014 04:54 PM

Re: Week 1 Positives and Negatives
 
Something I didn't realize until I read Haslett's quotes in [URL="http://www.redskins.com/news-and-events/article-1/Coordinator-Roundup-Redskins-Jaguars/45866b59-166d-4ee5-b7a6-2b8c6f131546"]this article[/URL] is that both Cofield and Golston got hurt on Fitzpatrick's touchdown pass. Is that true? If so, no wonder Fitzpatrick had all day to throw.

Fan033 09-14-2014 08:31 PM

Re: Week 1 Positives and Negatives
 
Positives:

We won in convincing fashion
Cousins looked great
The defense looked great
The coach called a great game

Negatives

Terrible injury to RGIII
Injury to DeSean Jackson
Awful call after RGIII's terrific pass - should have been reversed


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