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Rich Tandler on twitter:

"The Redskins only stopped shooting themselves in the foot last night to reload."

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[quote=punch it in;1086664]You know your defense sucks big time when losing DHall means the world. My God.[/quote]

Like button. Next it will be brandon meriweather being the difference maker.

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;1086666]I know they've been saying it, but Kirk Cousins straight shits his pants with any pressure ni his face. If he has a clean pocket, he's as good as any of them, but with even a little pressure his mechanics go ALLLLL to shit.[/quote]

Agreed

Big problem with that as well is I don't think you can correct that

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I keep wanting to write something here, but I just don't know where to start. Just horrible all around

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To add insult to injury...

[url=http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Redskins-Linebacker-Keenan-Robinson-Tweets-That-He-Was-Hit-by-Drunk-Driver-After-Game-277217792.html?_osource=SocialFlowFB_DCBrand]Redskins Linebacker Keenan Robinson Tweets That He Was Hit by Drunk Driver After Game | NBC4 Washington[/url]

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merriweather has not looked good for the 2 games he has been back. no one in the secondary has looked good but he is still our best secondary player imo with amerson.

merriweather and amerson are the only 2 secondary starters we have that might be starters on 5 other teams tops.

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Receivers

Number on roster: 8
Total percentage of cap space: 14.96
Total cap value: $19,282,219
NFL average: $13,283,803
Biggest cap hit: Pierre Garcon ($9.7 million)
Underpaid: Believe it or not, DeSean Jackson. He only counts $4.25 million against the cap this year. There are 30 receivers who have a higher cap figure this season. This is the result of concerns over his work ethic, etc. But as far as on the field, Jackson represents value.
Looking to the future: Garcon has three years left on his contract, but it wouldn’t be surprising to see him want an extension before it’s over. Both Garcon and Jackson’s contracts end in 2016. Leonard Hankerson’s rookie deal ends after this season. He has a lot to prove.

[url=http://espn.go.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/6849/redskins-salary-cap-breakdown-offense]Washington Redskins salary-cap breakdown: Offense - ESPN[/url]

Cornerback

Number on roster: 7
Total percentage of cap space: 6.1
Total cap value: $7,873,638
NFL average: $12,316,626
Biggest cap hit: Tracy Porter ($2,800,000)
Underpaid: DeAngelo Hall is coming off his best season in Washington and will count only $2.1 million against the cap – 55 corners will occupy more cap space.
Looking to the future: E.J. Biggers is the only corner who will be a free agent after this season. But it wouldn’t be surprising to see them draft someone else, in case Hall’s play slips that much or Porter doesn’t help or just to add depth. Richard Crawford still has to prove his knee is sound and that he’ll continue improving. Same with Chase Minnifield.


Safety

Number on roster: 7
Total percentage of cap space: 2.91
Total cap value: $3,746,719
NFL average: $8,237,006
Biggest cap hit: Brandon Meriweather ($1 million)
Underpaid: No one here is underpaid, though if Ryan Clark can coax out another good year and help groom some young safeties, then his $635,000 cap hit will qualify. But they also have to have young safeties worth grooming.
Looking to the future: Meriweather and Clark have one-year deals, which means the Redskins could well be in the same position next offseason in looking for starting safeties. Of course, they could still draft one (I would) and hope that between the rookie and the two young holdovers from last year, Bacarri Rambo and Phillip Thomas, that they’ll find one starter and then only need to find one more. Thomas must prove that he’s not only healthy but can move as he did before the Lisfranc injury. Rambo has to earn a job this year. Neither holdover is a given to be a starter – in 2014 or beyond.

[url=http://espn.go.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/6877/redskins-salary-cap-breakdown-defense]Redskins salary-cap breakdown: Defense - Washington Redskins Blog - ESPN[/url]

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For the first time in a long time, I cut the game off halfway through the third quarter. I couldn't take it anymore! It's kind of like a movie that I've seen over and over again. I know what's going to happen, but I still think if I watch the movie again, it will have some sort of alternate ending!

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[quote=DynamiteRave;1086680]To add insult to injury...

[URL="http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Redskins-Linebacker-Keenan-Robinson-Tweets-That-He-Was-Hit-by-Drunk-Driver-After-Game-277217792.html?_osource=SocialFlowFB_DCBrand"]Redskins Linebacker Keenan Robinson Tweets That He Was Hit by Drunk Driver After Game | NBC4 Washington[/URL][/quote]

Wow! I think this franchise really is cursed!

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[quote=Hog1;1086637]I hope Jay can make good use of the info gleaned from this game....players, coaches, BU's, etc
Beyond that, it was a...tragedy I will morn for at least a few days...and pints[/quote]

That's another thing that bugs the hell out of me though. Gruden's comments after the game about how this was a "wakeup call". What? That's a perfect example of the delusional arrogance that has seeped into every corner of this franchise, from the owner to the coaches to the players and sadly to a chunk of the fan base as well. And certainly the local media.

Coach, you were 1-2 coming into the game...what did you need a freaking wake up call for? Is the sky in your world purple and were the Redskins 3-0 in some bizarre fantasy reality? You beat [I]Jacksonville[/I]...a pathetic excuse for an NFL franchise. That's it. That was this franchise's ONE measly win going back almost a calendar year. Most local high school teams would probably look like world beaters against Jacksonville.

Arrrrrrrrrrgh.

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[quote=RFKRat;1086686]That's another thing that bugs the hell out of me though. Gruden's comments after the game about how this was a "wakeup call". What? That's a perfect example of the delusional arrogance that has seeped into every corner of this franchise, from the owner to the coaches to the players and sadly to a chunk of the fan base as well. And certainly the local media.

Coach, you were 1-2 coming into the game...what did you need a freaking wake up call for? Is the sky in your world purple and were the Redskins 3-0 in some bizarre fantasy reality? You beat [I]Jacksonville[/I]...a pathetic excuse for an NFL franchise. That's it. That was this franchise's ONE measly win going back almost a calendar year. Most local high school teams would probably look like world beaters against Jacksonville.

Arrrrrrrrrrgh.[/quote]


And people argue we are not in the same class as the JAX, CLE and OAK of the world. LOL!!!!!!

Shit at this point we are insulting them by saying we are in the same class as them.

I swear every day the purple looks better.

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[quote=DynamiteRave;1086680]To add insult to injury...

[url=http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Redskins-Linebacker-Keenan-Robinson-Tweets-That-He-Was-Hit-by-Drunk-Driver-After-Game-277217792.html?_osource=SocialFlowFB_DCBrand]Redskins Linebacker Keenan Robinson Tweets That He Was Hit by Drunk Driver After Game | NBC4 Washington[/url][/quote]

Oh shit that's for real, hate to hear that!!!! Damn I thought he was just joking, accusing the Giants running backs of being buzzed during the game.

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[quote=HailGreen28;1086641][IMG]http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs46/i/2009/191/d/3/The_Stupid__It_Burns_by_Plognark.png[/IMG]

The ints came after we got behind, because our defense cant stop anyone but the jags, even if we had the broncos offense.

Cousins played great against Philthy, we lost because the d gave up more than 30. Cousins played bad against NJGiants, we lost because the d gave up more than 30.[/quote]


Nice graphics but Conventional football wisdom knows if you give the opposing team a short field it kills the defense. What Cousins did wasn't fair to a defense that was already effing up. Turnovers determine the outcome of most NFL games. I test my case in this argument. Cousins hair was on fire lady night.

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[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;1086608]I give him pass since he was playing on basically one hand[/QUOTE]


I think he's been playing on one hand most of his career

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[quote=HailGreen28;1086641][IMG]http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs46/i/2009/191/d/3/The_Stupid__It_Burns_by_Plognark.png[/IMG]

The ints came after we got behind, because our defense cant stop anyone but the jags, even if we had the broncos offense.

Cousins played great against Philthy, we lost because the d gave up more than 30. Cousins played bad against NJGiants, we lost because the d gave up more than 30.[/quote]


Nice graphics but Conventional football wisdom knows if you give the opposing team a short field it kills the defense. What Cousins did wasn't fair to a defense that was already effing up. Turnovers determine the outcome of most NFL games. I rest my case in this argument. Cousins hair was on fire last night.

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it is still early into the season.

we have some good football ahead of us.

new coach, injuries, short week after a brutal game physically and mentally, bad DC .... we are going to have more bad games than good games.

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sorry, but I picked the Giants to win last night.

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[url]http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/redskins-selling-expired-world-cup-budweiser-beers-at-fedex-field-161517369.html[/url]

WTF??? Snyder shoud be tried for crimes against humanity!!!!

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[quote=CrustyRedskin;1086707][url]http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/redskins-selling-expired-world-cup-budweiser-beers-at-fedex-field-161517369.html[/url]

WTF??? Snyder shoud be tried for crimes against humanity!!!![/quote]

I am sorry but he has gotten a pass for awhile but there has been one consent in all this losing over the years.

IF Synder sold the team I would not be sad.

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[quote=skinsguy;1086682]For the first time in a long time, I cut the game off halfway through the third quarter. I couldn't take it anymore! It's kind of like a movie that I've seen over and over again. I know what's going to happen, but I still think if I watch the movie again, it will have some sort of alternate ending![/quote]
That is exactly how i felt. Ty.

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[quote=Gary84Clark;1086703]Nice graphics but Conventional football wisdom knows if you give the opposing team a short field it kills the defense. What Cousins did wasn't fair to a defense that was already effing up. Turnovers determine the outcome of most NFL games. I rest my case in this argument. Cousins hair was on fire last night.[/quote]the defense was already dead. If you had watched the game last night you would have that when the giants got on a roll, theycould have scored from 99 yards away.

The defense stunk it up when cousins played well in Philthy, they stunk when cousins played poorly at fedex. Your attempt to blame cousins for The d last night is weak and PATHETIC.

I am not surprised you dont understand the funny pic i posted, either.

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It was a bad game. Nothing else to say. Got 11 days to turn it around and look competitive against Seattle

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[quote=mredskins;1086710]I am sorry but he has gotten a pass for awhile but there has been one consent in all this losing over the years.

IF Synder sold the team I would not be sad.[/quote]

I would be fine if he upped and moved the franchise to L.A. and we got a whole new team.

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[quote=Bucket;1086717]It was a bad game. Nothing else to say. Got 11 days to turn it around and look competitive against Seattle[/quote]

11 days to get healthy and shock the world.

[url]http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/redskins-selling-expired-world-cup-budweiser-beers-at-fedex-field-161517369.html[/url]

article above about skins selling old beer this season. this has to violate some distributor contract with budweiser.

reason no. 3,437 on why you shouldnt bother spending a ton of money going to Fed Ex ........ yesh. who ever heads their food and beverage service needs to be fired and immediately replaced by the guy who heads the food and beverage for nats games.

not only do they have awesome lcoal food places - bens chili bowl etc - they have awesome beer selection and a monthly craft beer lottery to see which distributor is featured. he also works tirelessly and closely with local and national bars and restaurants to continue to develop the area around nats park to make it more fan friendly and stuff worth spending money on.

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I have had a Skins magnet on the back of my car for years. I actually took it off today before leaving for work. Living up here in giant/eagle land and im embarrased! The Snyder regime has finally stripped me of any pride i had left from what i watched this team do oh so long ago.

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1086719]I would be fine if he upped and moved the franchise to L.A. and we got a whole new team.[/quote]

Works for me ;)

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They are like an old dog. You have known for a while they are sick, but you love them so much that you ignore it. You keep hoping they will miraculously get better. You think about how when that dog was young - how good it was - how it ran faster and jumped higher and played harder than any other dog in the neighborhood, but now it has to be put down. So sad.

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I equate being a Redskin fan to being a battered wife... No matter the amount of abuse you take, you keep coming back... I deserve to feel this way, I keep coming back, no matter what...

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Delete^

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[quote=punch it in;1086724]I have had a Skins magnet on the back of my car for years. I actually took it off today before leaving for work. Living up here in giant/eagle land and im embarrased! The Snyder regime has finally stripped me of any pride i had left from what i watched this team do oh so long ago.[/quote]

in contrast, my orioles bird car magnet lasted about a week before someone stole it.

but now is the time to waive your skins flag high. now is the time to stick with the team. 2-3 years from now we can look back and say this was a moment of truth - are you a skins fan or are fairweather. i know we have sucked a long time. we have sucked in some many different ways. anyone who has stuck around this long cant be called a fairweather fan but this is when we double down.

if we cant beat the seahawks, lets hurt them. lets punch them in their mother fuking mouths.

[IMG]http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view1/4688240/sherman-punch-o.gif[/IMG]

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I don't understand how the Redskins can be the most penalized team, in the span of what seems like 10 years and 4 different coaches and entire roster turnovers... Seriously, can someone explain to me how that is even possible? It defies the law of averages...

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[quote=punch it in;1086733]Delete^[/quote]

Why is that?

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[quote=mredskins;1086688][B]And people argue we are not in the same class as the JAX, CLE and OAK of the world. LOL!!!!!!
[/B]
Shit at this point we are insulting them by saying we are in the same class as them.

I swear every day the purple looks better.[/quote]

I think we all at some point overvalue are own players. That's the nature of fans in general. We have to remember this is a 3 win team. We're better than Jacksonville, but we're probably not better than Cleveland.

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[QUOTE=over the mountain;1086734]in contrast, my orioles bird car magnet lasted about a week before someone stole it.



but now is the time to waive your skins flag high. now is the time to stick with the team. 2-3 years from now we can look back and say this was a moment of truth - are you a skins fan or are fairweather. i know we have sucked a long time. we have sucked in some many different ways. anyone who has stuck around this long cant be called a fairweather fan but this is when we double down.



if we cant beat the seahawks, lets hurt them. lets punch them in their mother fuking mouths.



[IMG]http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view1/4688240/sherman-punch-o.gif[/IMG][/QUOTE]


Nobody would steal a skins magnet up here. Lol. I was never worried for a second. Ill never not root for this team btw - just feels more hopeless than any point since 1991.
I know there have been times the team was maybe worse, but 2012 gave me such hope and now to feel like we are just a wreck again...well...i cant seem to pull my self out of this one.

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[QUOTE=Fiversons;1086736]Why is that?[/QUOTE]


Just seems in poor taste. I know the point u are trying to make but bad example imo. Thats all
Edit: wasnt "ordering" you to delete - who the hell am I? It just struck me as wrong so i posted one word, real fast to bring it to your attention in case u rethought it and felt the same way.

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I'm sorry but people need to get the f*ck over this loss. I've seen this team do worst and be in worst situations.

We had a ton of people injured, on top of this being a short week, with a rookie coach and a somewhat unproven QB. Yes a lot of people f*cked up, but moving on hopefully 10 days of rest can get some people healthy.

I'm not happy about the beating, but if you start talking about "oh I should be following another team" then maybe it's time that you start doing that and quit crying about it here.

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[quote=punch it in;1086739]Just seems in poor taste. I know the point u are trying to make but bad example imo. Thats all
Edit: wasnt "ordering" you to delete - who the hell am I? It just struck me as wrong so i posted one word, real fast to bring it to your attention in case u rethought it and felt the same way.[/quote]

Ok then, let me rephrase my point... Spousal abuse is a very bad societal problem and should never be tolerated... The Washington Redskins are a very badly ran franchise and team that should not be tolerated...

Better huh...

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[quote=punch it in;1086555]Coaching, offense, defense, fans(or lack there of), special teams, uniforms. Other than those minor issues I think this team is on the verge of something really horrible. TGIF[/quote]

I don't know whether to laugh or cry at this... Is it acceptable to do both?

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[quote=Fiversons;1086735]I don't understand how the Redskins can be the most penalized team, in the span of what seems like 10 years and 4 different coaches and entire roster turnovers... Seriously, can someone explain to me how that is even possible? It defies the law of averages...[/quote]

but of course. people think im crazy when i talk like this..
ppl say if u look hard enough for conspiracy ...you will find one..

bullshit. this is full blown truth and an absolute joke.
nfl is garbage, so is the commish and the refs.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1086742]I'm sorry but people need to get the f*ck over this loss. I've seen this team do worst and be in worst situations.

We had a ton of people injured, on top of this being a short week, with a rookie coach and a somewhat unproven QB. Yes a lot of people f*cked up, but moving on hopefully 10 days of rest can get some people healthy.

I'm not happy about the beating, but if you start talking about "oh I should be following another team" then maybe it's time that you start doing that and quit crying about it here.[/quote]

I think this was about a bad a loss as we've seen here in a long time. And no one should be anywhere remotely content with the performance of the team yesterday. At all.

We're a franchise built on excuses right now. Those franchises are also known as losers

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[QUOTE=Fiversons;1086745]Ok then, let me rephrase my point... Spousal abuse is a very bad societal problem and should never be tolerated... The Washington Redskins are a very badly ran franchise and team that should not be tolerated...



Better huh...[/QUOTE]


I guess if my mom or sister or daughter was a victim a spousal abuse my response to your post would have been "no its nothing effing like that at all. This is football. That is someones life. "
Again - no big deal.