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Chico23231 11-04-2014 07:33 PM

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Haslet is done after this season, might not make it til the end, but make no mistake, he is mos def gone.

punch it in 11-04-2014 08:53 PM

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1093293]Haslet is done after this season, might not make it til the end, but make no mistake, he is mos def gone.[/QUOTE]


Never should have been hired imo. If he gets another gig it would be a real head scratcher.

JWsleep 11-04-2014 09:02 PM

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I hope you guys are right, but I worry that the old ties to Allen and Gruden from the Tusker days. They may keep him around out of "loyalty", even though he should be gone.

SFREDSKIN 11-04-2014 09:07 PM

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[quote=punch it in;1093298]Never should have been hired imo. If he gets another gig it would be a real head scratcher.[/quote]

Shanahan's teams aways had a bad DC and it was no different in Washington (Wade Philips is slighly above avg.)Without Elway he was just an average coach and it showed here. As much as people critize Al Davis, he was a smart man to fire him. Haslett is a HASbeen and when was hired as DC I knew this wouldn't work out.

OmahaRedskins 11-04-2014 09:58 PM

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1093301](Wade Philips is slighly above avg.)[/quote]

Wade Philips is a really good defensive coordinator, bad head coach.

SFREDSKIN 11-04-2014 10:00 PM

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[quote=OmahaRedskins;1093303]Wade Philips is a really good defensive coordinator, bad head coach.[/quote]

He's good, I like others better.

Chico23231 11-04-2014 10:12 PM

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Might not be an outside search for new d cordinator to replace haslet, might be a battle of internal candidates. Depends on who becomes available from a coupe spots, if the right names arent availble I'd lean to an internal replacement

SFREDSKIN 11-04-2014 10:19 PM

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[quote=Chico23231;1093307]Might not be an outside search for new d cordinator to replace haslet, might be a battle of internal candidates. Depends on who becomes available from a coupe spots, if the right names arent availble I'd lean to an internal replacement[/quote]

I like Brian Baker. Lots of experience at different positions in D, time to give him a chance as a DC. Plus he's an ex Terp.

Ruhskins 11-05-2014 12:23 AM

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[quote=Chico23231;1093307]Might not be an outside search for new d cordinator to replace haslet, might be a battle of internal candidates. Depends on who becomes available from a coupe spots, if the right names arent availble I'd lean to an internal replacement[/quote]

What's the point of having an internal candidate? We need someone new from the outside period.

skinsfan69 11-05-2014 11:25 AM

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Haslett is an average DC. But it's not going to matter who we bring in here if he doesn't have players. Haslett would be a better DC if he had better players. I'd be more worried about who's picking the players, rather than who's coaching them. Clark, Merriweather, Hatcher, Porter and Bowen are all pretty sub par free agent signings. There is no excuse for 50 year old Ryan Clark starting as your free safety.

Ruhskins 11-05-2014 11:30 AM

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[quote=skinsfan69;1093347]Haslett is an average DC. But it's not going to matter who we bring in here if he doesn't have players. Haslett would be a better DC if he had better players. I'd be more worried about who's picking the players, rather than who's coaching them. Clark, Merriweather, Hatcher, Porter and Bowen are all pretty sub par free agent signings. There is no excuse for 50 year old Ryan Clark starting as your free safety.[/quote]

I just don't understand how/why they haven't been able to address the safety position. I will say that I'm glad we didn't overpay for Jarius Byrd, but there were plenty of safeties in the FA market.

Evilgrin 11-05-2014 01:26 PM

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We have overpaid sooo many old safties over the years, seems to be a position we really struggle to fill period.

Grimm_Reaper 11-05-2014 02:13 PM

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I want our team to finish the year strong, and get on a nice win streak. But part of me wants us to let it go to secure some good draft picks next year for the offensive line. The last few times we've been to the super bowl we were built around a power house O line, even as the quarterbacks changed. Maybe higher Russ Grimm as our O line coach like in the late 90s. He got a ring coaching the O Line of the Steelers, and his O lines have consistently been good. Maybe I'm just dreaming, but it'd be nice to have him back.

We have a good team in most positions. Strengthen the O and D line and we'd be a force to reckon with. The skins as a franchise have been focusing too much on big names and not on making good players who can execute simple blocking techniques without fail, over and over again.

MTK 11-05-2014 03:41 PM

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Grimm has been out of work for a while. Never understood the fascination by some fans.

JoeRedskin 11-05-2014 04:15 PM

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[quote=Mattyk;1093374]Grimm has been out of work for a while. Never understood the fascination by some fans.[/quote]

Well, there was a time when he was a solid coaching candidate. Coached on winning teams, moved up the coaching ranks (he was the Cardinals Asst. Head Coach for a while under Whisenhunt), and was a regular name in possibilities for teams other than the Skins.

Then ... pfffft. Never made the next step, never got another middle-management coaching position (OC, DC, etc.), and then couldn't even get an O-Line job. Just dropped out of the coach discussions at any level.

Had the cards fallen right, he may have been a good fit 9-10 years ago. Not anymore.

Ruhskins 11-05-2014 04:25 PM

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[quote=Mattyk;1093374]Grimm has been out of work for a while. Never understood the fascination by some fans.[/quote]

He's the Eric Winston of coaches! LOL.

Skinzman 11-05-2014 04:56 PM

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Not exactly sure why people are talking about Grimm as if he hasnt seen the NFL in 10 years. He didnt coach last year, but did in 2012. The offensive lines he coached were always good. In Pitt, he had good talent, but when he went to the Cards, he greatly helped improve that Oline. I would take him in a heartbeat as our OL coach.

punch it in 11-05-2014 04:58 PM

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[QUOTE=Skinzman;1093386]Not exactly sure why people are talking about Grimm as if he hasnt seen the NFL in 10 years. He didnt coach last year, but did in 2012. The offensive lines he coached were always good. In Pitt, he had good talent, but when he went to the Cards, he greatly helped improve that Oline. I would take him in a heartbeat as our OL coach.[/QUOTE]


Yeah so would I. Hell I might take him as an actual Olineman! Lol.

Lotus 11-05-2014 05:29 PM

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[quote=Ruhskins;1093379]He's the Eric Winston of coaches! LOL.[/quote]

Now that's funny. :)

CRedskinsRule 11-05-2014 05:31 PM

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[quote=Mattyk;1093374]Grimm has been out of work for a while. Never understood the fascination by some fans.[/quote]

Is he playing Bingo? Call him up!

Skinzman 11-05-2014 05:45 PM

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[quote=punch it in;1093387]Yeah so would I. Hell I might take him as an actual Olineman! Lol.[/quote]

You know its sad when after reading that, you actually contemplate if a 50+ year old man could improve this Oline as a player. Even sadder when you answer yes like I did.

CrazyCanuck 11-05-2014 08:06 PM

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[quote=Skinzman;1093396]You know its sad when after reading that, you actually contemplate if a 50+ year old man could improve this Oline as a player. Even sadder when you answer yes like I did.[/quote]

I went through the exact same thought process.

CrazyCanuck 11-05-2014 08:11 PM

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1093392]Is he playing Bingo? Call him up![/quote]

Pfffff.... Shows what you know... The Skins are far too savvy to employ a bingo player. We only hire bingo CALLERS. There's a big difference.

Hog1 11-05-2014 08:14 PM

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Point well taken...
But in all fairness......if you can call Bingo, you can dodge a wrench

CrazyCanuck 11-05-2014 08:19 PM

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[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZXHsNqkDI4]If you can dodge a wrench, you can dodge a ball!! - YouTube[/ame]


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