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[quote=IrMitchell;1102117]I'm really hoping we go pass rusher in the draft this year at #5. Hopefully can have the partnership Kerrigan/Orakpo never seemed to offer.[/quote]

I think we're all dreaming of Leonard Williams at #5. Imagine lining him and Kerrigan on the same side.

At #5 id gladly take Williams, Gregory, BPA secondary player, BPA tackle.

I could live with any of those 4 picks. I think Williams is a fantasy, but Randy Gregory could still be there.

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I have NO issues with what KC said. Does anyone really think Griffin should be anointed the starter going into the offseason?

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[quote=IrMitchell;1102117]I'm really hoping we go pass rusher in the draft this year at #5. Hopefully can have the partnership Kerrigan/Orakpo never seemed to offer.[/quote]

Rak is gone. His career here is over.

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If Williams is gone, trade down a few spots and take BPA, Scherff will be a good pick for whoever gets him.

Need to focus on our lines for AWHILE!

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[quote=skinsfan69;1102122]I have NO issues with what KC said. Does anyone really think Griffin should be anointed the starter going into the offseason?[/quote]

NO he shouldn't. Should be open competition and I'm confident Cousins would win the starting job given the chance. Just my opinion.

Also, we need to take Williams or Gregory if they are there at 5.

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Suh is suspended like he should be. what an shit head

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Griffin should not be the starter unless we absolutely don't upgrade at all

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[quote=Chico23231;1102127]Suh is suspended like he should be. what an shit head[/quote]

Damn. I want them to beat the cowboys.

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[quote=Chico23231;1102127]Suh is suspended like he should be. what an shit head[/quote]

The NFL got it right on this one.

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Here's an interesting article comparing the current 49er GM (Baalke) vs the previous (McCloughan) and their draft picks and FA moves in 5 years for each of them. McCloughan is currently retired (fairly young guy).

[url=http://blogs.mercurynews.com/kawakami/2014/12/29/baalke-vs-mccloughan-pro-bowl-count/]Kawakami: And now the spotlight shifts to 49ers GM Trent Baalke: A look at his Pro Bowl count vs. Scot McCloughan's acquisitions[/url]

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[quote=Chico23231;1102100]Colt McCoy was more disappointing than Cousins. I expected a whollllle lot more from that guy. Kinda lost now on why Bruce and Jay were such fans of him, I really think he should be the one going out of everybody.[/quote]

What exactly did you expect from Colt?

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[quote=SmootSmack;1102134]What exactly did you expect from Colt?[/quote]

Exactly, he was hired as a 3rd string QB.

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We have the three stooges at QB now...

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Yeah without suh they don't have a great shot at stopping dallas offense. Hopefully he appeals and they let him play

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[quote=Evilgrin;1102136]We have the three stooges at QB now...[/quote]I know this entirely subjective. But the Gruden offense just looked better under Cousins, ran smoother, ball got out on a pass more in time.

If Cousins could rein in the INTs, he'd be our #1 QB for sure. Unless we could bring back the Shanahan R/O run and R/O pass system from 2012.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1102141]Yeah without suh they don't have a great shot at stopping dallas offense. Hopefully he appeals and they let him play[/quote]That was a dirty little stunt by Suh. He should be suspended and lose all his game check next week.
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Suh is a big fat loser. Stay away from him in free agency. Not what I want my team to be about.

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He's a great player with just a horrible attitude. I agree let someone else have him and I doubt the Lions keep him

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D- line problems solved

[url=http://nfldraftdiamonds.com/redskins-sign-lakendrick-ross-to-a-futures-contract/]Redskins sign LaKendrick Ross to a futures contract[/url]

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Would u guys rather shop griffin for let's say a 3rd or 4th and then keep cousins going forward?

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[QUOTE=DynamiteRave;1102091]No dates set yet obviously and we have no clue who our FA pickups and draft picks are going to be... But considering where we are now... what do you think our record will be next year based on our schedule



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That is not a terribly difficult schedule by any means. This team right now would have 3-5 wins though no matter who was on it.

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[quote=SmootSmack;1102134]What exactly did you expect from Colt?[/quote]

I thought maybe in Jay's offense he could excel. He had a couple first halfs in games that were borderline our worst QB play of the year. Which is saying alot.

Sometimes a change of scenery does wonders for QB; clearly he isnt the answer as a starter going forward.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1102152]Would u guys rather shop griffin for let's say a 3rd or 4th and then keep cousins going forward?[/quote]

Hells no.

Cousins has hit his ceiling and it is not good enough.

Griffin can get better, although we might ship him anyway so that he can ignore another team's coach's advice.

Time for a QB housecleaning.

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Griffin just needs to get his confidence back. Drop back and let that baby rip!!! Fire that fuc*ing pigskin!!

I think he'll be a lot better next year. Especially if the o-line gets beefed up with some real fatboys.

I want him to be the QB next year, preferably by outplaying anyone else on the roster by a wide margin in off season workouts/pre-season.

I'd be more open to trading Cousins.

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I just. Hate losing both guys that we drafted that yr but o well honestly it's probably never going to work out with griffin

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^^^ And by listening to coaches and running the plays and reads properly.

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ugh QB issues...I say you keep both guys (RG3 and Kirk) and maybe add a another...errr Mike Glennon...and we have an old fashion QB royal rumble going into the season. Hire a QB coach, let everybody know we dont have a starter and expectations say let it play out on the field.

I want to see midget face bounce though, for reals

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1102152]Would u guys rather shop griffin for let's say a 3rd or 4th and then keep cousins going forward?[/QUOTE]



Yes.. I think trading cousins would come back to haunt us..

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[QUOTE=Lotus;1102156]Hells no.





Cousins has hit his ceiling and it is not good enough.





Griffin can get better, although we might ship him anyway so that he can ignore another team's coach's advice.





Time for a QB housecleaning.[/QUOTE]



How do you know Cousins has hit his ceiling. If he can stop throwing picks, he could be a really good QB. What makes you think Griffin can become a pocket passer?

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[quote=Brody81;1102166]How do you know Cousins has hit his ceiling. If he can stop throwing picks, he could be a really good QB. What makes you think Griffin can become a pocket passer?[/quote]

Cousins is the same guy he was at Mich. St. That's why I said he has hit his ceiling.

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You might be able to cut a deal with the Bills , Kyle Orton has retired .

[url=http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/bills/2014/12/29/bills-quarterback-orton-announces-plans-to-retire/20998403/]Bills QB Kyle Orton announces retirement[/url]

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[quote=Brody81;1102166]How do you know Cousins has hit his ceiling. If he can stop throwing picks, he could be a really good QB. What makes you think Griffin can become a pocket passer?[/quote]

He is a pretty tall guy, so hitting his ceiling isn't unfeasible at all.

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[quote=Lotus;1102156]Hells no.

[B]Cousins has hit his ceiling and it is not good enough.

[/B]Griffin can get better, although we might ship him anyway so that he can ignore another team's coach's advice.

Time for a QB housecleaning.[/quote]

What QB in the NFL hits their ceiling after playing less than half a season? LOL. He still has more passing yards, more td passes, more passes over 20 yards, they have about the same pass attempts yet Griffin has been sacked way more. Sorry but KC shows MUCH more upside than Griffin and the numbers show it. KC just needs to cut down his turnovers which he can do, and also show better body language/mental toughness. Those things seem more coachable over a lack of field vision, holding the ball, taking sacks and throwing late. If I have to cut bait with one, Griffin is packing his bags and I'm moving on from the drama.

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1102176]What QB in the NFL hits their ceiling after playing less than half a season? LOL. He still has more passing yards, more td passes, more passes over 20 yards, they have about the same pass attempts yet Griffin has been sacked way more. Sorry but KC shows MUCH more upside than Griffin and the numbers show it. KC just needs to cut down his turnovers which he can do, and also show better body language/mental toughness. Those things seem more coachable over a lack of field vision, holding the ball, taking sacks and throwing late. If I have to cut bait with one, Griffin is packing his bags and I'm moving on from the drama.[/QUOTE]



This.

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[quote=Chico23231;1102161]ugh QB issues...I say you keep both guys (RG3 and Kirk) and maybe add a another...errr Mike Glennon...and we have an old fashion QB royal rumble going into the season. Hire a QB coach, let everybody know we dont have a starter and expectations say let it play out on the field.

I want to see midget face bounce though, for reals[/quote]

Gruden basically said in his press conference that competition would only be between two QB's and he'd like to make a decision quickly. But it did sound like that's where it's going. I think it's between McCoy and Griffin as they seem to love McCoy's noodle arm. I also think KC will be traded to Cleveland.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1102176]what qb in the nfl hits their ceiling after playing less than half a season? Lol. He still has more passing yards, more td passes, more passes over 20 yards, they have about the same pass attempts yet griffin has been sacked way more. Sorry but kc shows much more upside than griffin and the numbers show it. Kc just needs to cut down his turnovers which he can do, and also show better body language/mental toughness. Those things seem more coachable over a lack of field vision, holding the ball, taking sacks and throwing late. If i have to cut bait with one, griffin is packing his bags and i'm moving on from the drama.[/quote]

this x1000000

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[quote=skinsfan69;1102178]Gruden basically said in his press conference that competition would only be between two QB's and he'd like to make a decision quickly. But it did sound like that's where it's going. I think it's between McCoy and Griffin as they seem to love McCoy's noodle arm. I also think KC will be traded to Cleveland.[/quote]

I have this gut feeling its going to be between Kirk and RG3. Or Colt and Kirk

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I wonder if there is anyway that we could hire Marc Trestman as our QB coach. Apparently he's a "Quarterback Whisperer." I'm not sure he would be willing to settle for that much of a demotion though.

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[url=http://instagram.com/p/xNRta1GJk-/]Instagram[/url]



LOL. She has a right to be pissed off. Our owner on the other hand does not. He's a huge part of our problem.

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[quote=The Dull Roar;1102182]I wonder if there is anyway that we could hire Marc Trestman as our QB coach. Apparently he's a "Quarterback Whisperer." I'm not sure he would be willing to settle for that much of a demotion though.[/quote]

It's not going to matter who they hire because Dan Snyder is going to tell Gruden who to start...it's that simple. All that "best player for the job" is BS. Until Dan and Bruce are ready to move on from RG3, It's RG3's job, period...