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[quote=Hijinx;1104152]Where the Pats "gamed the system" was that, they did not give the refs any time to get that info to the Ravens coaches/players.

I am 100% sure there will be a rule change come next year. It is typical of Belicheat to do shit like this.[/quote]

That's not on New England. The refs and Baltimore should know that they're going to push the rules. Harbaugh got a 15 yarder cause he couldn't control himself. In a win or go home situation, everyone, coaches included, need to check their emotions.

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[quote=Lotus;1104145]Harbaugh unhappy that he got outcoached on that one.[/quote]

This is what it comes down too. He should have called a timeout to adjust if he was that concerned

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[quote=Chico23231;1104154]I need McC to find us a kam chancellor. He looked like the best player on the field last night. it was also stated by someone previously, but that dude is the most Sean Taylor like player I've seen. Freak athlete, huge hitter and big play specialist.[/quote]

Actually, Kam and Earl Thomas were both drafted in 2010. The year [I]before[/I] McCloughan joined the Hawks. [Same draft got them Okung and Golden Tate].

He was with the Hawks for their 2011, 2012 and 2013 drafts. Of the 30 picks from those three drafts (and according to PFT) only six players are no longer in the NFL. Three from 2011 and three 2013.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1104149]From what I understand, the player reported to the ref that he was ineligible. The Ravens can complain but the Pats followed the rules this time.[/quote]

Yup, they even showed the ref informing the defense on replay. Belicheat may have gamed the system again but this time it was legal.

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[quote=Chico23231;1104159]This is what it comes down too. He should have called a timeout to adjust if he was that concerned[/quote]

Yup. Exactly. What did Harbaugh want the refs to do? Delay putting the ball in play so Baltimore could adjust? Once the ball is in play, that's it. NE can snap it as fast as they desire.

Again, it's up to the refs and Baltimore. As long as prior to putting the ball in play:
(1) NE reports to the refs about the change in eligibility; and
(2) Refs tell D's captain, then
(3) NE can snap the ball once in play.

Are D's given more time to adjust if a OL reports eligible? Do refs delay placing the ball in those situation? I highly doubt it. It's on the D to call a time out.

Harbaugh got caught with his pants down. Simple as that.

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[quote=HailGreen28;1104137]Curious. How did the refs drop the ball on that one?[/quote]The refs should have announced which receiver was ineligible and give the defense the chance to identify the ineligible receiver prior to the snap.

In the same sense that the refs announce eligible receivers when they are wearing numbers considered 'ineligible' e.g. tackle eligible.
The refs announce player #72 is reporting as eligible.

The refs should have announced player #34 is reporting as ineligible.

But I don't fault the refs for not picking up what the Pats were doing because it was happening fast. I knew something was up but couldn't pin point it myself in realtime either, i was drinking too.

The Pats gained an advantage snapping the ball before the Ravens had a chance to identify the ineligible receiver thus forcing them to waste a defender covering an ineligible receiver. They had no way to know which receiver wasn't eligible and moreover the Pats made an effort for the ineligible receiver to look like he was eligible.

Like I said, tip of the hat to the hoodie.

[quote]Wilson looked good yesterday. Running Qb just doing what is asked of him, not having to win the game on his own. Like 2012 here.[/quote]Sure. Running QB or whatever label you want to call him. Russ made plays runs and throws that helped win the game.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1104162]Yup. Exactly. What did Harbaugh want the refs to do? Delay putting the ball in play so Baltimore could adjust? Once the ball is in play, that's it. NE can snap it as fast as they desire.

Again, it's up to the refs and Baltimore. As long as prior to putting the ball in play:
(1) NE reports to the refs about the change in eligibility; and
(2) Refs tell D's captain, then
(3) NE can snap the ball once in play.

Are D's given more time to adjust if a OL reports eligible? Do refs delay placing the ball in those situation? I highly doubt it. It's on the D to call a time out.

[B]Harbaugh got caught with his pants down. Simple as that.[/B][/quote]

Yes, and when he figures that out, he's gonna regret making noises now. All he is doing is calling attention to the pants down by his ankles.

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[quote=30gut;1104164]The refs should have announced which receiver was ineligible and give the defense the chance to identify the ineligible receiver prior to the snap.

In the same sense that the refs announce eligible receivers when they are wearing numbers considered 'ineligible' e.g. tackle eligible.
The refs announce player #72 is reporting as eligible.
[B]
The refs should have announced player #34 is reporting as ineligible.[/B]

But I don't fault the refs for not picking up what the Pats were doing because it was happening fast. I knew something was up but couldn't pin point it myself in realtime either, i was drinking too.

The Pats gained an advantage snapping the ball before the Ravens had a chance to identify the ineligible receiver thus forcing them to waste a defender covering an ineligible receiver. They had no way to know which receiver wasn't eligible and moreover the Pats made an effort for the ineligible receiver to look like he was eligible.

Like I said, tip of the hat to the hoodie.

Sure. Running QB or whatever label you want to call him. Russ made plays runs and throws that helped win the game.[/quote]

They did.

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[quote=Lotus;1104161]Yup, they even showed the ref informing the defense on replay. Belicheat may have gamed the system again but this time it was legal.[/quote]

Belichick didn't "game the system," he simply used some players in an unconventional fashion.

Hey, Harbaugh "gamed the system" by preserving his timeouts and taking a penalty [I]rather than[/I] calling a timeout, adjusting his defense and bringing the issue to the Refs attention.

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[quote=Lotus;1104166]They did.[/quote]When did the refs announce over the mic: player X is not eligible? Maybe I missed it. But I sure don't recalling hearing the refs announce it.

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They announced the ineligibles over the speakers in the stadium according to those that were there. So yeah slightly cheesey move by Belicheat but not illegal. More of a loophole type of deal.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1104149]From what I understand, the player reported to the ref that he was ineligible. The Ravens can complain but the Pats followed the rules this time.[/quote]Never said it was illegal or the Pats didn't follow the rules. *shrugs*

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Here is an article on it, play the video and watch the play. Vereen was ineligible but split wide. On the snap, he drops back and acts like a receiver. The play was clearly designed to create defensive confusion. It worked but, like most trick plays, probably won't work again versus any disciplined defenses.

[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000456365/article/john-harbaugh-pats-substitutions-deceptive-illegal]John Harbaugh: Pats' substitutions deceptive, illegal - NFL.com[/url]

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Let's go Pack

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[quote=Mattyk;1104174]Let's go Pack[/quote]

Seriously!

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Usually I root for close and exciting games but I hope the Packers are up 42-0 at halftime.

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I hope green bay wins by 40

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[quote=Mattyk;1104174]Let's go Pack[/quote]


Exactly.

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Rodgers isn't right

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No he's hurting but it's also the D sucking so far

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Rodgers is fine. Pack will win by 10

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Go Pack. As for the Pats thing. Good for them it is not the first time a team has split the o-line up unconventionally.

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Packers r in trouble they can't make a play on defense

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I cannot live with Seattle vs Dallas.

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Me either punch I'll puke

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Green Bay needs to run the ball more second half. They are quick to go away from the run game

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Huge kick now gb needs 7 right after half

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am I the only one that thinks Matt Flynn should be playing? with that offense he's fully capable of managing this game.

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Demarco Murray has already run the ball 17 times...dallas will win if he continues to run like this

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Boy I swear dallas is getting some serious calls this yr

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Let's go pack here

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[QUOTE=CASKINS;1104192]am I the only one that thinks Matt Flynn should be playing? with that offense he's fully capable of managing this game.[/QUOTE]


Yes you are the only one. As long as Rodgers has four limbs he should be playing...lol

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Dumb dumb dumb

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Effin penalties just bringin dallas all sorts of love
Edit: not that they are all bologna, but a few have been and the others just come at horrible times

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Fucking bullshit penalty. How can it be "after the play was over" when the cowturds are still tackling his teammate... yeah, the whistles had been blown, but that obviously only counts for one side here.

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Was the penalized hit before or after the whistle blew?

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[quote=HailGreen28;1104202]Was the penalized hit before or after the whistle blew?[/quote]

During both whistles blowing and cowboys tackling the receiver.

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I smell another Dallas turnover

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How effin lucky can u get. My God

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F dallas