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James Crowder making Kareem Jackson look like Baccari Rambo (PFF ranked Jackson as the 11th best CB last year).

[url=http://www.csnwashington.com/redskinsblog/jamison-crowder-floors-texans-corner-terrific-cut]Jamison Crowder floors a Texans corner with a terrific cut | Comcast SportsNet Washington[/url]

I love how, after being juked out of his jock strap, Jackson looks down at his socks like "oh, see, my socks weren't pulled up, that's what slowed me down."

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Coaches loving that Crowder kid......

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1115788]2013 Draft Picks:

2nd: D. Amerson - Still with us and likely to make the roster, but only as the 4th corner. May be his last year.

3rd: J. Reed - Could be great except that he is as frail as his name.

4th: P. Thomas - Nope. Just nope.

5th: Chris Thompson - Maybe he makes the team. Maybe he's out of football.

5th: Brandon Jenkins - They told us he was a steal. Turns out he wasn't. Out of football.

6th: Baccari Rambo - Best thing about him was his name. His cleats are still in the turf where Chris Johnson juked him out of them.

7th: Jawan Jamison - Who? Out of football.

So, from the draft two years ago, we have a back-up corner & RB (both of whom may have topped out), and a really good but oft-injured TE. Yay![/quote]

What a pitiful draft. Still some hope for Amerson and Reed. But Thomas was a total disappointment. When he finally got on the field last year he just looked slow. The game was just too fast for him.

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Had no idea Chris Neild was signed by Houston. Good for him.

12m12 minutes ago
#SkinsCamp ‏@Redskins
Old friends, new teams, gotta keep a balance. @cbaker92redskin @TruckNeild
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I said earlier in the thread that Moses was looking solid this year. Looks like Callahan thinks so to

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Djax hurt. Shoulder injury

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1115842]James Crowder making Kareem Jackson look like Baccari Rambo (PFF ranked Jackson as the 11th best CB last year).

[url=http://www.csnwashington.com/redskinsblog/jamison-crowder-floors-texans-corner-terrific-cut]Jamison Crowder floors a Texans corner with a terrific cut | Comcast SportsNet Washington[/url]

I love how, after being juked out of his jock strap, Jackson looks down at his socks like "oh, see, my socks weren't pulled up, that's what slowed me down."[/quote]

What is it with this organization and grass fields that just flat out suck. You would think we could hire someone that knows how to grow it, its not hard to do. Maybe im overcritical on it since I have been in landscaping for a couple of decades... but damn... its grass, its not that difficult to get it right.

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That's southern grass. It....different

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[quote=mredskins;1115848]Djax hurt. Shoulder injury[/quote]

Hall as well.

[url=http://www.csnwashington.com/redskinsblog/deangelo-hall-suffers-groin-injury-redskins-practice]DeAngelo Hall suffers groin injury at Redskins practice | Comcast SportsNet Washington[/url]

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[URL="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/629337059656880128"]DeSean Jackson separated his shoulder, expected to miss a couple weeks. DeAngelo Hall injured his groin, out about a week.[/URL]

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Keim is saying from a team source...DeSean (shoulder) likely out a couple weeks. DHall (groin) out a week. DeSean hit a blocking dummy wierd with his shoulder? damn

updated:

DeSean Jackson has been diagnosed with a [B][U]separated shoulder[/U][/B], and will be sidelined "a few weeks."

Per ESPN's Dianna Marie Russini, D-Jax is dealing with a Grade 2 separation. FOX Sports reports Jackson was injured by a blocking sled. The injury leaves him highly questionable for the preseason, but his Week 1 isn't in doubt from

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[quote=Chico23231;1115856]Keim is saying from a team source...DeSean (shoulder) likely out a couple weeks. DHall (groin) out a week. DeSean hit a blocking dummy wierd with his shoulder? damn

updated:

DeSean Jackson has been diagnosed with a [B][U]separated shoulder[/U][/B], and will be sidelined "a few weeks."

Per ESPN's Dianna Marie Russini, D-Jax is dealing with a Grade 2 separation. FOX Sports reports Jackson was injured by a blocking sled. The injury leaves him highly questionable for the preseason, but his Week 1 isn't in doubt from[/quote]

Fawk!

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[quote=Chico23231;1115856]Keim is saying from a team source...DeSean (shoulder) likely out a couple weeks. DHall (groin) out a week. DeSean hit a blocking dummy wierd with his shoulder? damn

updated:

DeSean Jackson has been diagnosed with a [B][U]separated shoulder[/U][/B], and will be sidelined "a few weeks."

Per ESPN's Dianna Marie Russini, D-Jax is dealing with a Grade 2 separation. FOX Sports reports Jackson was injured by a blocking sled. The injury leaves him highly questionable for the preseason, but his Week 1 isn't in doubt from[/quote]

Mr. Unstopable got whacked by a tackling dummy. He'll be fine by the beginning of the season.

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New signing!!! Guess we got a replacement for Orakpo. All I did was go to bing and type in 'redskins roster'. look at the 7th guy

[url=http://www.bing.com/search?q=redskins+roster&go=Submit+Query&qs=bs&form=QBRE]redskins roster - Bing[/url]

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[quote=Hog1;1115843]Coaches loving that Crowder kid......[/quote]

According to Chris Russell they weren't impressed pre-draft.

[quote]Chris Russell
Chris Russell – ‏@Russellmania621

I can't say enough good things about Jamison Crowder. He catches everything. Smooth. Tough. Was told coaches were initially did not want.
9:58 AM - 6 Aug 2015[/quote]

[quote]Chris Russell
Chris Russell – ‏@Russellmania621

#Redskins coaches were very concerned about Crowder's lack of size. McCloughan LOVES him & won that battle Told ya pre-draft - JC is great.
10:00 AM - 6 Aug 2015[/quote]

[quote]Chris Russell
Chris Russell – ‏@Russellmania621

For the questions about Crowder - it is simple. #Redskins coaches initially did not want Crowder because of his height. Scot thru tape went.
10:06 AM - 6 Aug 2015[/quote]

[quote]Chris Russell – ‏@Russellmania621

...through the process of convincing coaches why Jamison Crowder will be outstanding as a WR. Was my favorite pick - [url=http://www.dchotread.com/2015/05/02/catching-a-draft]Catching a Draft[/url] …
10:08 AM - 6 Aug 2015[/quote]

Predictably Russell makes it about himself, still some interesting info on Crowder.

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[quote=SKINSnCANES;1115860]New signing!!! Guess we got a replacement for Orakpo. All I did was go to bing and type in 'redskins roster'. look at the 7th guy

[url=http://www.bing.com/search?q=redskins+roster&go=Submit+Query&qs=bs&form=QBRE]redskins roster - Bing[/url][/quote]

Every time I see Crews, I think he can still play. Dude is awesome.

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Russell is always over negative on everything. Even when he likes a guy. He will bash something else in the same sentence. Aka coaches

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[quote=Bucket;1115864]Russell is always over negative on everything. Even when he likes a guy. He will bash something else in the same sentence. Aka coaches[/quote]

Russell is just a football god who knows all, but end the end, its alllll bout him

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[quote=SirLK26;1115861]According to Chris Russell they weren't impressed pre-draft.









Predictably Russell makes it about himself, still some interesting info on Crowder.[/quote]

I heard that to. SM had to practically shove him down the coaching staff throats. Good on you SM!

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Always interesting to get your opponent's take on the day: [url=http://www.houstontexans.com/news/article-2/25-observations-from-TexansCamp-against-Washington/a95b535b-536e-400c-937e-9c758895170a]25 observations from #TexansCamp against Washington[/url]

Seems like they were wowed by Crowder. Not much else that they mentioned about the Redskins worth noting or repeating as the emphasis (understandably) is on Texans players.

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"THAT joker can flat out....fly"
Looking forward to see JC in action

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RG10 was 5-11 today.

Note.. He only threw from the pocket and no play action. Guess they were gaging his progress on pocket effectiveness

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[quote=SirLK26;1115861]According to Chris Russell they weren't impressed pre-draft.









Predictably Russell makes it about himself, still some interesting info on Crowder.[/quote]

So typical of Russell, always patting himself on the back. He needs to fill out an application for a scout since he never misses on a player.

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Aaron Wilson – Verified account ‏@AaronWilson_NFL

Colts awarded cornerback Tevin Mitchel off waivers from the Redskins and waived safety Robert Smith.
2:21 PM - 6 Aug 2015

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[quote=SirLK26;1115873]Aaron Wilson – Verified account ‏@AaronWilson_NFL

Colts awarded cornerback Tevin Mitchel off waivers from the Redskins and waived safety Robert Smith.
2:21 PM - 6 Aug 2015[/quote]

I'd be grateful if someone with insight as to how all this works could explain why we waived Mitchel. The reports coming out of camp were positive; I know he's out for the year, but wasn't there some way to save him and just designate him on IR? Colts sure pounced.

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[quote=calia;1115875]I'd be grateful if someone with insight as to how all this works could explain why we waived Mitchel. The reports coming out of camp were positive; I know he's out for the year, but wasn't there some way to save him and just designate him on IR? Colts sure pounced.[/quote]

That sucks. The Redskins should have just waited and have him count on their 90 man roster.

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[quote=SirLK26;1115873]Aaron Wilson – Verified account ‏@AaronWilson_NFL

Colts awarded cornerback Tevin Mitchel off waivers from the Redskins and waived safety Robert Smith.
2:21 PM - 6 Aug 2015[/quote]

Oh well, he wouldn't have played this year and next year they'll get someone else.

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[quote=calia;1115875]I'd be grateful if someone with insight as to how all this works could explain why we waived Mitchel. The reports coming out of camp were positive; I know he's out for the year, but wasn't there some way to save him and just designate him on IR? Colts sure pounced.[/quote]

Until someone has 4 years in the league, they cant be placed directly on IR without passing through waivers until the first cut down date. So to be able to use the roster spot, the waived him with an injury designation. If he had cleared waivers, they have the option to put him on IR or give him an injury settlement. He would have been put on IR since he is gone for the year and the injury settlement is he gets paid for what he is expected to miss. So the injury settlement would have been the same as putting him on IR for salary purposes, both one years pay.

So the options were leave him occupying a roster spot til the first cut or waive him. With Amerson and Breeland out, I am assuming they figured they needed someone who can practice with the team, so they tried to get him through waivers.

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I think they just wanted to have another roster spot to sign an additional player - one of the 2 that they signed yesterday.

They cherry-picked McCloughan's draft choices - goes to show the respect he has on other teams. That sucks.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1115877]Oh well, he wouldn't have played this year and next year they'll get someone else.[/quote]

But there's no doubt, McCloughan and his staff put in a lot of time in scouting Mitchel. There seems to be a lot of work that they invest in every pick now that McCloughan's here because the pick is just that - an investment.

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[quote=warriorzpath;1115879]I think they just wanted to have another roster spot to sign an additional player - one of the 2 that they signed yesterday.

[B]They cherry-picked McCloughan's draft choices - goes to show the respect he has on other teams.[/B] That sucks.[/quote]

Good way to look at it. I actually don't remember teams.....diving on Vinnie's releases

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[quote=Skinzman;1115878]Until someone has 4 years in the league, they cant be placed directly on IR without passing through waivers until the first cut down date. So to be able to use the roster spot, the waived him with an injury designation. If he had cleared waivers, they have the option to put him on IR or give him an injury settlement. He would have been put on IR since he is gone for the year and the injury settlement is he gets paid for what he is expected to miss. So the injury settlement would have been the same as putting him on IR for salary purposes, both one years pay.

So the options were leave him occupying a roster spot til the first cut or waive him. With Amerson and Breeland out, I am assuming they figured they needed someone who can practice with the team, so they tried to get him through waivers.[/quote]

Many, many thanks for the detailed explanation. Very helpful. Too bad we lost out on him. Does this mean that the Colts don't waste a roster spot on him in the same way that we would have? In other words, by claiming him off waivers, do they have more flexibility in terms of how they designate him going forward?

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[quote=calia;1115882]Many, many thanks for the detailed explanation. Very helpful. Too bad we lost out on him. Does this mean that the Colts don't waste a roster spot on him in the same way that we would have? In other words, by claiming him off waivers, do they have more flexibility in terms of how they designate him going forward?[/quote]

When you claim someone off waivers, he immediately takes a roster spot, which is why the Colts cut someone. They have the same options we did, hold onto him until first cuts with him taking up one of the 90 roster spots, then put him on IR (which will free up his roster spot at that time), or try and get him through waivers to put him on IR now. I really cant see them putting him through waivers now, otherwise they probably wouldnt have claimed him. It looks like the Colts are holding onto him for next year and beyond.

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Man, eff the colts! B#tch move..IMO

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We have to many injuries at CB right now to waste a spot on a player who won't play till next year. Scott can find another one next year. It is interesting though that a team claimed an ir'ed rookie.

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[QUOTE]
Mallett and Brian Hoyer repeatedly fed Hopkins during the morning practice at the Bon Secours Training Center. [B][U]Whether it was to the left side, over the middle or on the right side of the field, Hopkins came down with the ball time and again on Thursday. [/U][/B]An 800-yard rookie season in 2013 begat a 1,200-plus yard season in 2014. The increase in production amplified a confidence that’s been evident since the Texans used their first round pick on the Clemson wideout two years ago.
[url=http://www.houstontexans.com/news/article-2/DeAndre-Hopkins-shines-against-Redskins/6a091c2d-5975-405d-a527-0870af744342]DeAndre Hopkins shines against Redskins[/url]
[/QUOTE]

Always good to get the other side's opinion.. At least from their biased view, doesn't seem like our secondary has improved much...

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[url=http://www.redskins.com/news-and-events/article-1/Practice-Notes-2015-SkinsCamp-Day-7/1771eabf-22c1-4521-b1ec-b1c80752bde7]Practice Notes: 2015 #SkinsCamp, Day 7[/url]

[quote]Running back Matt Jones ... showed the toughness that has been advertised since his selection out of Florida in May’s NFL Draft on one play in particular. On 3rd and 3, Jones, who was running with the second-team offense, received the handoff from Kirk Cousins and sprinted to his left before lowering his shoulder around the line of scrimmage, plowing forward to pick up four yards for the first down. [B]If Jones keeps progressing the way the Redskins are hoping he does – and takes the No. 2 running back job behind Alfred Morris – the Redskins have two extremely tough runners to throw at opposing defenses in 2015.[/B][/quote]

So instead of a "Thunder & Lightning" backfield we'll have a "Thunder & Thunder" backfield.

I am okay with that.

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Per the Twitterverse:

Scherf is at guard and Moses at tackle for the second straight day against Texans. (I may be mistaken, but I don't think Scherf has played any RT snaps against them).

Moses is apparently looking a lot better than he was last year - staying lower and not lunging as much.

Questions being asked are:
(1) Given that he hasn't taken a snap at RT against Texans, seems more than a "Just trying him in different positions" type switch. Does this mean that Long/Scherf is no longer plan A?

(2) Is this the switch to guard due to (a) Moses's improvement; (b) Sherf not being good enough at RT; (c) Long not getting it done at RG; or (d) some combination of the three?

Also - Crowder appearing to be unstoppable. A. Roberts days in the slot may be numbered.

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I think Moses at RT says more about him than it does Scherff. If he's that improved that's an awesome thing for our line.

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If they are confident that Moses is now a real starter I'll be delighted.
He looked pretty flatfooted last year.
When he wasnt lunging.....